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Queen agrees to let Harry, Meghan move part time to Canada

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What a relief? Aren’t Harry and Meghan adult citizens of free countries? Why would they need an old woman’s permission to do anything?

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Hey folks, give this young family a break. Just wish them well. They have paid their dues via unrelenting abuse from British press. Now hope they have some peace.

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Why would they need an old woman’s permission to do anything?

They don't. They told the Queen they were leaving as a fait accompli. It's strange that the article fails to mention the three-year hate campaign against Megan Markle by the right-wing media and the internet tiki torch mob; that's the real reason they've quit.

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Why would they need an old woman’s permission to do anything?

They don't. Although they do want the security guards, the titles and the UK residences which are kind of in her power (apart from the title - he's still a prince whatever).

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It's strange that the article fails to mention the three-year hate campaign against Megan Markle by the right-wing media and the internet tiki torch mob; that's the real reason they've quit.

exactly!

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The racist undertones in the media were to blame. But as the case of another island nation we're all too familiar with, the victim will be blamed.

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If they didn’t need the old woman’s permission, why was there a meeting and why is the media reporting that the queen agreed?

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Countries with royal or imperial families are quaint. Sorcerers and dragons aren’t really either, by the way.

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Why would they need an old woman’s permission to do anything?

Because Harry is part of the royal family regardless of what he thinks or feels, he needs the monarch's permission to withdraw from royal duties. The monarch, the heir, and the spare are the only ones that are never allowed to withdraw from such duties. For other members, it can be done only with permission of the monarch. Regardless, of what he may think or feel, he is considered a royal no matter where he goes and because of this he cannot just withdraw from his duties.

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Regardless, of what he may think or feel, he is considered a royal no matter where he goes and because of this he cannot just withdraw from his duties.

Jezuz, sounds like they're still stuck in the plague era. I guess the abolition of this archaic system is long overdue.

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The site below is the very definition of a differentiate to harness product placement and establish a presence in the market to harness, attract and retain a customer baseline. Branding.

https://sussexroyal.com/

OK, remove the Royal, the Titles, namely “The Duke and Duchess of Sussex”, and what is left, Harry and Meghan. It might as well be Bill and Ben the flower pot men.

The “cashing in” factor on both Harry and Meghan “HRH” status, whilst the hard working tax payer, rich and poor will ultimately have to foot the bill for their security, the £2.4 million plus, refurbishment of Frogmore cottage, Harry and Meghan UK base. Whilst attending pubic engagements, product placement will be come the order of the day.......

It is this po-faced arrogance, that will prompt present and future Government to take preventative legislative step to bring this farce to an end.

This whole sorry Royal soap opera is about to turn political.

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Queen agrees to let Harry, Meghan move part time to Canada

Mr. and Mrs. Markel were moving to Canada. That was a done deal. The Queen agreed to not stop them.

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Suits wasn't all that popular. I'd never heard of Meghan before the wedding announcement. I'm guessing that she doesn't understand the meaning of "duty."

The Queen is wise. Best to get her away so she doesn't spoil the rest of the family like an overripe banana. The royals were looking awfully pale these days. The trick is to have an independent tally of royal working days and private days so the expenses are split in a far way.

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Genius, the attentiion is off Prince Andrew, and the clan enters a new chapter where earning your own living is shared with public duties.

What's there to complain about, unless you're Murdoch press.

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TheFu

Suits wasn't all that popular. I'd never heard of Meghan before the wedding announcement. I'm guessing that she doesn't understand the meaning of "duty

Are you saying the second highest rating show its first 2 seasons only behind Game of Thrones wasn't that popular?

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So they are keeping the taxpayer funded goodies then?

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Good move by the Queen. She's learned a thing or two about people management over her almost seven decades in the job.

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Amir Marzouk, Is that on some hidden rating list? It certainly wasn't popular here.

NCIS, Sunday Night Football and Big Bang Theory were at the top in 2012-13. Suits wasn't in the top 25 that year. The top ranked CATV show that year was The Walking Dead.

Not that this matters. I'll stick with most people in the world never heard of her before the wedding announcement.

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 I'll stick with most people in the world never heard of her before the wedding announcement.

What's your point? Nobody had heard of Ms Catherine Middleton before she started dating Prince William, and Lady Diana Spencer was a teenage child-carer.

So what does do you think that proves?

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"...the three-year hate campaign against Megan Markle by the right-wing media"

Seriously? I've had the Daily Mail and others on my news feed over the past three years, and I don't remember any such "campaign." There was the occasional criticism over specific things like using a private jet while preaching environmentalism or ordering the media not to photograph her at the Wimbledon tournament. But overall, the coverage was neutral to positive.

Around the time of the marriage, most of the coverage was positively gushing, contradicting the left's laughable and embarrassing assertions she would be rejected by the royal family on racial grounds.

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Not that this matters. I'll stick with most people in the world never heard of her before the wedding announcement.

Who cares? I found out she was a minor celeb when she started dating the more famous celeb Harry.

Anyway, they are more than capable of earning enough cash to support their needs and luxuries and so they should give up the freebies and earn their own way.

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The establishment didn't care for Dodi Al Fayed, either. I'm no monarchist, but I wish the papers and pundits would leave the kids alone.

Priti Patel and other right wingers are pretending it's not racism. Patel would know, given her insensitive and bigoted comments about Ireland.

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Jefflee wrote:

I've had the Daily Mail and others on my news feed over the past three years, and I don't remember any such "campaign." [edit] But overall, the coverage was neutral to positive.

Here's some of that neutral to positive coverage. For Princess Kate, that is.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal?utm_source=dynamic&utm_campaign=bfsharefacebook&ref=mobile_share&fbclid=IwAR2zLibjCOXO50Xot9na4re5HssjEXD-HinOZKL37MV-DC0NsUK70FUgW98

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Meghan will tire of Harry quickly.

I give their marriage 5 more years at most.

They will blame the media for their divorce when it happens.

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I hope the Queen cuts off all their financial ties, allow Harry to keep his inheritance, but other than that, cut the cord.

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These 2 both have their own histories, aren't young, Hollywood & Royal couple, what could possibly go wrong.....

Seems like Megan is really throwing her weight around by wanting to live in Cda as well, she supposedly knew you would think she was marrying into the Royal family & now once a kid is born she is pushing to get them out......wish them good luck they ARE going to need it bigtime!!!

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allow Harry to keep his inheritance

Why? He can earn his own money.

I thought you conservatives were all for people supporting themselves and not sponging off others. Lazy, good-for-nothing, arrogant inheritance brats are a real problem and send out a bad message to others.

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I hope the Queen cuts off all their financial ties, allow Harry to keep his inheritance, but other than that, cut the cord.

That's not really cutting the cord, though, is it?

His inheritance will keep them both comfy and secure, far beyond the rest of us mortals could ever hope for.

People who get inheritance know little of the hardships of real life.

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His inheritance will keep them both comfy and secure,

Yes, so keep it and anything else, cut all financial ties. What a home wrecker this woman, no wonder no one likes her, disgusting. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

Having said that, be free and live your own life.

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Yes, so keep it and anything else, cut all financial ties

It's still not cutting any cords. It's money he inherited. Like most elite.

What a home wrecker this woman, no wonder no one likes her, disgusting. 

Harry chose his wife over his gran. That's hardly home wrecking. Remind me, how many divorces has the current PotUS had & how many affairs?

Ah, but that's it. MM and Harry don't like Trump & there was no wedding invite. This is a source of ire for the American far right.

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It's still not cutting any cords. It's money he inherited.

You can get it in one lump sum.

Harry chose his wife over his gran. That's hardly home wrecking.

Not him, her. But she doesn’t have a good history as a person, but yes, if Harry is happy, good on him, but her reputation as a decent woman is once again, crushed.

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The problem with those that say the "right-wing" media have made a racist and sexist hate campaign against Meghan, is that when you ask people who claim such to provide any evidence, they can't.

Fortunately, people are wising up to the tactic of those who cry "racism" when valid criticism is being made.

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Princes Harry and Andrew can both go off into exile in Canada. The Firm doesn't likely want them around.

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The problem with those that say the "right-wing" media have made a racist and sexist hate campaign against Meghan, is that when you ask people who claim such to provide any evidence, they can't.

The problem is that the right wingers who support the campaign with every fibre of their being, tend to ignore when evidence is provided. They pretend it's not happening.

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Not him, her. But she doesn’t have a good history as a person, but yes, if Harry is happy, good on him, but her reputation as a decent woman is once again, crushed.

Always the woman's fault. Especially if she be strong, black and or progressive.

You be very hushed about your own home wrecker in chief. Very telling.

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The problem is that the right wingers who support the campaign with every fibre of their being, tend to ignore when evidence is provided. They pretend it's not happening.

Then please provide evidence of the British media behaving in a racist or sexist way towards Meghan.

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ToastHeretic:

Priti Patel and other right wingers are pretending it's not racism. Patel would know, given her insensitive and bigoted comments about Ireland.

What the heck does anything here have to to do with "right wing" or with "racism"? People have different opinions about the royal soap opera, I do not see what is right or left about either. And "race"? Aren´t they all caucasians? Is "racism" some some of of obligatory phrase that some people have to pepper every single comment with? I don´t get this.

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Then please provide evidence of the British media behaving in a racist or sexist way towards Meghan.

It's not just the media.

But anyway, again? Ok.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/11/post-racial-britain-harry-meghan-tabloids

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-01/royal-reporters-lift-lid-on-abuse-levelled-at-meghan-markle/9496132

https://news.sky.com/story/trolling-of-meghan-how-duchess-is-abused-over-race-and-pregnancy-11696606

https://www.her.ie/news/police-investigating-racist-hate-crime-towards-meghan-markle-prince-harry-390649

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Always the woman's fault. Especially if she be strong, black and or progressive.

Yes yes that's it!

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And "race"? Aren´t they all caucasians? 

Leo Varadakar, Kevin Sharkey, Samantha Mumba, Liz Bonnin and Phil Lynott and many more would disagree (if Philo was still with us).

The point is, Patel is pretending that the abuse is not racist, when it clearly is. And she's made racist comments about Ireland, without a clue about its history.

But most right wingers are not well versed in anything outside their own narrow confines.

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Canada does not really want them if they are anything more than just another celeb couple and they don't want to have to pay for their security which can only be provided by the Canadians on their soil. Security will be a difficult issue especially when they leave Canada to visit another country.

Their finances. Their security. Their royal titles. They are the issues. When what range of work will be allowed to be involved with. They can't be making money because of their royal titles. That's what Fergie the Duchess of York did.

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Toasted, you've just posted links to articles by the media reporting about the abuse Meghan has received from individuals on Twitter and the like.

You are trying to make out that the media itself has been racist and sexist. Please show us where.

Don't make claims that the system is against her when in reality it is just a handful of private individuals on social media.

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Don't make claims that the system is against her when in reality it is just a handful of private individuals on social media.

It's not just a handful of private individuals. Piers Morgan and his pal Trump have both made disparaging comments towards her. These are public figures with a huge and unfortunately, influential platform where they can demonize anyone they don't like, without consequences.

And whilst no fan of the royals, I cannot recall such vitriol directed at Kate Middleton. Even the BBC were clumsy in reporting.

When news of his relationship with Meghan Markle became public, he criticised “racial overtones” in reporting. Last week, it emerged he had complained to the BBC for broadcasting and publishing online an image from a neo-Nazi social media site that called him a “race traitor” and depicted the royal with a gun pointed at his head. Although the BBC internally and the broadcasting watchdog Ofcom rejected the complaint, ruling that the use of the image in a report about the activities of the group was in the public interest, the BBC did apologise for not warning the duke in advance.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/oct/01/meghan-sues-mail-on-sunday-for-publishing-letter-to-her-father

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Piers Morgan and his pal Trump have both made disparaging comments towards her.

So we've gone from "The media are racist and sexist towards Meghan" to "Two famous people have made disparaging comments about her". "Disparaging" isn't racist.

I suggest you stop looking for racism in everything.

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I am surprised that this kind of news still attracts the attention of Japan Today.

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Chip StarToday 06:38 am JST

What a relief? Aren’t Harry and Meghan adult citizens of free countries? Why would they need an old woman’s permission to do anything?

Because they are part of the royal family, they draw millions of dollars in wages from the royal purse to perform certain duties, the taxpayer's just spent millions upgrading their residences in London, the taxpayers already pay hundreds of thousands for their security which will now cost a lot more, now that this is apparently going ahead the big question is how much taxpayer money is going to prop up "their independent lifestyle" .

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Always the woman's fault.

In this situation, mostly it is, but Harry gets some share of the blame as well.

Especially if she be strong, black and or progressive.

Liberals, stop with the race baiting, no one cares about it. Diana went through a very rough time and she was White, maybe she suffered from White racism as well.

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@bas4fLiberals, stop with the race baiting

Neonationalsocialists: stop ignoring racial prejudice.

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Neonationalsocialists: stop ignoring racial prejudice

What? Is that even a word? I’m sorry, but Meghan has mostly herself to blame, her problems didn’t start just recently, she’s been having problems for years and now Canada May get to take on her problems, I weep for that country.

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Prince Charles and Princess Diane-failed marriage and she was unable to cope with life inside the royal family. Same with the first husband of Princess Anne and then Fergie Duchess of York too. The Duchess of Wessex, the wife of Prince Edward also at a difficult time at the beginning adjusting to the demands of the life. Marrying into the royal family is very difficult.

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Toasted Heretic:

Leo Varadakar, Kevin Sharkey, Samantha Mumba, Liz Bonnin and Phil Lynott and many more would disagree (if Philo was still with us).

I don´t know these people, and I don´t know why they are relevant.

The point is, Patel is pretending that the abuse is not racist, when it clearly is. And she's made racist comments about Ireland, without a clue about its history.

Who is Patel? I was asking you about your race obsession, while all of the people in the photos look pretty white to me. OK, I found out in the meantime that one of them has a black parent, but so what? It seems you are obsessed about race. Maybe you should ease up on that'?

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Prince Charles and Princess Diane-failed marriage and she was unable to cope with life inside the royal family. Same with the first husband of Princess Anne and then Fergie Duchess of York too. The Duchess of Wessex, the wife of Prince Edward also at a difficult time at the beginning adjusting to the demands of the life. Marrying into the royal family is very difficult.

We all know that, that’s not the point, the point is how this woman behaves, but once she uttered progressive, red flashing lights should have been a warning sign what this woman is. She left Hollywood, but it didn’t leave her and she brought it back to England. What a joke.

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We all know that, that’s not the point, the point is how this woman behaves, but once she uttered progressive, red flashing lights should have been a warning sign what this woman is. She left Hollywood, but it didn’t leave her and she brought it back to England. What a joke.

Yeah! Progress is bad, I say using my mobile phone connected to the internet. We should fear progressives because they think we should evolve as our societies move forward. Scary stuff!

Look, you’ve been backed into yet another corner. ROFL!

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What? Is that even a word? I’m sorry, but Meghan has mostly herself to blame, her problems didn’t start just recently, she’s been having problems for years and now Canada May get to take on her problems, I weep for that country.

Other people being racist towards Meghan is her fault?

Her being half black is a “problem she’s been having for years”?

Sweet posts

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Examples galore below if you want to see how they have been treated differently in parts of the British press.

Another interesting correlation is that people who have a bit of a thing against Meghan are also more likely to vote for Brexit and be sceptical of climate change. Fancy that!

For instance, an October 2018 InStyle article accused the Duchess of Sussex of breaking "royal shoe protocol" for wearing wedges. Several months later, InStyle published another article praising the Duchess of Cambridge for wearing the same type of shoes, hailing them as "the most versatile shoes of the summer."

When Markle's bodyguard asked spectators at Wimbledon not to take photos of her, there was serious backlash. However, when Middleton's bodyguard told fans the same thing during a recent shopping trip, she was praised for being "down to earth."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.insider.com/meghan-markle-criticized-kate-middleton-praised-double-standards-racism-2019-11

“The one example I will bring up is the fact that a number of people brought it up on social media today about the one-armed dress that Kate was wearing I think at the BAFTAs,” she said. “She looked stunning and all of the media coverage was incredibly positive and then you rewind a couple of months to when Meghan wore a black one-armed dress, and all of the coverage there was saying she was ‘breaking royal protocol’ for this outrageous one-armed dress that was completely inappropriate.”

Kate: "Bumping along nicely! The Duchess was seen placing a protective hand on her tummy as she exited the event." Daily Mail: March 22, 2018

> Meghan: "Personally, I find the cradling a bit like those signs in the back of cars: Baby on Board. Virtue signaling, as though the rest of us barren harridans deserve to burn alive in our cars." Daily Mail: Jan. 26, 2019

Kate: "Royal sources said yesterday that the Queen understood and endorsed William and Kate’s decision not to spend Christmas Day with her. One said: ‘Her Majesty understands that it is a dilemma that many young couples face and acknowledges how close Catherine’s relationship is with her family." Daily Mail: Dec. 16, 2016

Meghan: "The fact is the Queen expects to have the family around her for the festive season... to the Queen, for whom the tradition of the family gathering is a key date in her calendar, Harry and Meghan’s absence will be a matter of great sadness. It will also be a source of frustration." Daily Mail: Nov. 13, 2019

Kate: "It was reported that new Duchess of Cambridge requested her favorite scented candles and toiletries from luxury fragrance brand Jo Malone be delivered to scent the Abbey. A selection of candles, handwashes and lotions was requested, specifically in citrus spring scents including Orange Blossom, Grapefruit and the ever-popular Lime, Basil & Mandarin." Daily Mail: May 4, 2011

Meghan: "'Meghan wanted staff to go around with these atomizers, like spritzer guns, and spray the chapel with scent before anyone arrived. Royal Household staff stepped in and told her office politely, but firmly, that this was the queen's chapel and it simply wasn't appropriate. I don't believe they said no because they thought it could affect the chapel in any way. It was simply the principle of the thing. This is a place that has held royal weddings, funerals and even contains the royal vault. I don't believe a request of that nature had been made before.'" Daily Mail: Nov. 30, 2018

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal

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Yeah! Progress is bad, I say using my mobile phone connected to the internet. We should fear progressives because they think we should evolve as our societies move forward. Scary stuff!

Uhhh, that’s not what I meant by “Progressivism.”

Look, you’ve been backed into yet another corner. ROFL!

No, you just jumped the gun again, relax.

Other people being racist towards Meghan is her fault?

No, but her mouth and attitude of selfish and personal egotistical entitlement is though.

Her being half black is a “problem she’s been having for years”?

Hmmm.....

Keep trying...

If Princess Angela of Liechtenstein can do it, Meghan can as well, but her selfishness will prevent her, stop with the race excuse, I know it’s a shield for a deflated argument, but no one cares, but liberals will monotonously and tirelessly try to belabor that empty point.

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I am surprised that this kind of news still attracts the attention of Japan Today.

I just want these celebs/scroungers off the tax bill. That is an issue worth commenting on.

Black/white/male/female/progressive/conservative - they should all sod off.

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No, but her mouth and attitude of selfish and personal egotistical entitlement is though.

Still haven't seen any evidence of this. But the language you use to describe her throughout your posts are mostly found in the thesaurus as synonyms for "uppity".

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Still haven't seen any evidence of this. But the language you use to describe her throughout your posts are mostly found in the thesaurus as synonyms for "uppity".

I am so tired with liberals trying to invoke race into every debate they for some reason can’t seem make a serious cohesive argument, it just always devolves into race, race, race. I find people like Bieber or Madonna or the Kardashians equally as uppity if it makes you feel better.

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Uhhh, that’s not what I meant by “Progressivism.”

What do you mean?

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bass4funk:

I am so tired with liberals trying to invoke race into every debate they for some reason can’t seem make a serious cohesive argument

Also bass4funk:

Diana went through a very rough time and she was White, maybe she suffered from White racism as well.

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I find people like Bieber or Madonna or the Kardashians equally as uppity if it makes you feel better.

I think that they are rather different cases. The ones you quote have made every effort to out themselves in the public eye and revel in fame and publicity. Markle hasn't but has been relentlessly picked on in a way that is inexplicable in Britain if she were not American or from an ethnic minority.

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I think that they are rather different cases. The ones you quote have made every effort to out themselves in the public eye and revel in fame and publicity. Markle hasn't

She was a TV actress and before that, she already had a bad reputation that was public.

but has been relentlessly picked on in a way that is inexplicable in Britain

A lot of it she brought on herself.

if she were not American or from an ethnic minority.

What? Or better yet, maybe if she wasn’t difficult.

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bass4funk

I'm surprised that you even care enough to post a single post when you have so often just dismissed the British royal family and the country.

Your world of seeing everything liberal or conservative only does not exist in our British society. 65/12?

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That went better than expected. Like a regular grandma trying to keep her family from breaking apart, the Queen used the word "family" so many times in the press release

“Today my family had very constructive discussions on the future of my grandson and his family.

My family and I are entirely supportive of Harry and Meghan’s desire to create a new life as a young family. Although we would have preferred them to remain full-time working Members of the Royal Family, we respect and understand their wish to live a more independent life as a family while remaining a valued part of my family. Harry and Meghan have made clear that they do not want to be reliant on public funds in their new lives.*

It has therefore been agreed that there will be a period of transition in which the Sussexes will spend time in Canada and the UK.These are complex matters for my family to resolve, and there is some more work to be done, but I have asked for final decisions to be reached in the coming days.”*

So the Queen wants the details done in days and not weeks. And if in the end, they depend less on grandma's money and strike out on their own like adults who move out of the house, that may save money

Who wouldn't want that - who would want to depend on grandma's money forever

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bass4funk

Meghan is an American.

True she was born an American Catholic but on marrying Harry she had to surrender her American citizenship and become 100% British citizen. She was also required to give up her Catholic religion and was baptised into the Church of England, which the queen is the head of.

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Lost: Thanks for that. Agree with your analysis.

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