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Racism row erupts as William and Kate visit Boston

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I'm not shocked. They wear nice clothing and have lots of money and have an arrogant sense of superiority and entitlement like every royal family, especially the European ones. They descend from a line of people who raped, robbed and murdered at will and brought much brutality and suffering to a large portion of the world. Their attitudes aren't usually put into the public eye but it's good to see them get some well-deserved backlash. It will help to trim that holier-than-thou attitude even if only for the moment.

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Not surprising. Noses high in the air looking down on others. The only surprising thing is Harry didn't seem to be expecting it.

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I do not understand the American fascination with and seeming fondness for the British royalty. Didn't the US fight a bitter revolutionary war to get rid of these leeches?

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The House of Winsor and systemic racism.

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People like Lady Susan Hussey live in 1922, not 2022. She is not alone.

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Ngozi Fulani, chief executive of Sistah Space, an east London refuge for women of African and Caribbean heritage, said she was stunned by her exchange with Lady Susan Hussey, 83, William's godmother and a long-time lady-in-waiting to the late Queen Elizabeth II.

William and Kate seem pretty cool.

But the UK still carries with it hundreds of years of racism in its society, built up through its taking the lead in the slave trade and never confronting it on its homeland, instead, spreading it through its colonies.

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The monarchy is the only thing British,have left to market to the world

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Good HR is key to protecting your brand. There are not a lot of PR-savvy woke 83 year olds out there. Most of their opinions will have fixed decades ago, and nothing you can say will change that. What do you want to do? Punish them? Beat them with sticks? When you are 83, you will be hugely out of sync with contemporary trends too. Wait and see.

quote: not OK to put your hand in my hair, whoever you are.

Point taken, we now live in a hands-off world, but people have different values and traditions. It is arrogant to assume that everyone has the same values as you do, especially across generational gaps. The ability to make accommodation for the different values of others is important in a diverse world. That works both ways. If you demand that others seek to understand you, you should also be prepared to understand others.

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This story sounds like a bit of an emotionally charged beat-up designed to stir up hate against an out-of-touch, wealthy old woman.

The controversy erupted Wednesday when a Black advocate for survivors of domestic abuse said a senior member of the royal household interrogated her about her origins during a reception at the palace for people working to end violence against women.

Using the word "interrogated" here seems like a gross exaggeration judging from the context of the conversation. An interrogation implies putting a person under pressure with a series of questions, like what the cops do, not a couple of inappropriate questions.

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I get asked this same question here in Japan. If I reply “I’m from Kyōto” or wherever I’ve been living for the last 50 years, it’s “No, where are you really from?”

That does not make it good, sure, but it’s no big deal. I think the woman was trying to make polite conversation, but it sounds as if these two ladies got off on the wrong foot.

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Great timing for Netflix, though…

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The questions were persistent and rude and would not have been asked had she been speaking with a white person. If she wanted to make polite conversation why didn't she ask about the work done by Sistah Space? It was bad manners to touch the hair.

This wasn't some person on the street asking her questions. It was a well-experienced Lady-in-Waiting with decades of experience.

This racial incident will be what she is remembered for.

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These days you simply can't ask anyone who's colored which Country their Family originated from, as doing so is deemed Racist, though it's fine asking any pink skin, if they come from Poland or New Zealand.

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It wasn't only the question but also the tone and persistence and she didn't understand when she should have stopped. The people at the reception were not there for their nationalities they were there for the work being done by their organizations. When Prince Phillip referred to the Chinese as "those with split eyes."

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I've lived here for nearly 2 decades in total, and if a Japanese person asks where I'm from, I don't get offended. This is blown right out of proportion for some PC point-scoring.

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It was the insulted who were hurt and spoke out.

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Ngozi Fulani was look a likeAfrican and she was not look like British. If I were Lady Susan Hussey and then I'll ask her same questions like Lady Susan Hussey. There's no racist attitude and she was polite to speak with guest.

Ngozi said she was violated and insulted, suffered trauma and damage

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People like Ngozi Fulani suffer racism on a daily basis. Not expected when attending a reception at Buckingham Palace.

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@Chop Chop.

Wow. What does an African look like ? What does a British person look like ?

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Online preview released from Harry and Meghan's Netflix. The Wales are at war.

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I don't believe Lady Susan Hussey, 83, William's godmother and a long-time lady-in-waiting to the late Queen Elizabeth II meant any harm, a tad tone deaf, 2022 to enquire into a black woman cultural identity is a red line.

Especially Ngozi Fulani, chief executive of Sistah Space, Fulani, wasted little time shouting and hollering, race baiting.

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This is pathetic, it’s victim hood 101 in modern society. The favoured technique of radical feminists and many others that taint our lives. An 83 year old lady upsets this woman enough for her to publicly shame her, at the same time getting herself on TV and all over the media. She isn’t a victim, she’s an attention seeker and a trouble maker.

Wonder if she will claim PTSD or something daft now to try and make a bit more money, sickening, immature and regressive.

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The bar for what constitutes racism is at an all time low now. This just shows how far we have 'progressed.' I never knew I was such a race victim but given that I'm often asked where I'm from and have lost count of the number of times my name has been mispronounced I truly am a victim

Being overlooked for positions on the basis of skin colour however is fine as it's about "inclusivity and diversity." How could it possibly be racist if it's good?

What ridiculous times these are.

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Ngozi Fulani, chief executive of Sistah Space, has a singular loathing of the Royal Family.

All on record, once describing the attitude of senior members of House of Windsors to Meghan Markle as domestic violence. Fulani also stated on the Queens jubilee, where the Royals assemble on the Beckenham Palace balcony as a whites only black people are banned.

When Ngozi Fulani attended this so called Buckingham Palace reception, Fulani had a political agenda.

And the hapless Lady Susan Hussey, 83, was unfortunately on hand to be cynically leveraged to fulfil Fulani race baiting.

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I've lived here for nearly 2 decades in total, and if a Japanese person asks where I'm from, I don't get offended. This is blown right out of proportion for some PC point-scoring.

And how does a question asked in Britain to a British woman relate to your experience of being asked in Japan to a non-Japanese person.

Your misdirected anger would only make sense if you were Japanese but being asked in Japan where you were from.

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These days you simply can't ask anyone who's colored which Country their Family originated from

Nonsense. If I meet people in Britain with a non-British accent, regardless of the color of their skin, I will likely ask which country they are from. The woman here was clearly British. Asking which part of London she was from would be fine. Asking which country is wrong. Similarly in Japan. If someone asks me which country I'm from, no problem. However, if someone asked my daughter the same question, I would understand if she got angry.

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PaustovskyToday  04:59 pm JST

I've lived here for nearly 2 decades in total, and if a Japanese person asks where I'm from, I don't get offended. This is blown right out of proportion for some PC point-scoring.

And how does a question asked in Britain to a British woman relate to your experience of being asked in Japan to a non-Japanese person. 

Your misdirected anger would only make sense if you were Japanese but being asked in Japan where you were from.

Anger? No, just an eyeroll. And your comment doesn't even make much sense because this story was dealing with two people of different ethnic backgrounds.

With so much recent immigration in the UK, that without hearing someone's accent but noting the different skin colour, as the case may have been here when Lady Hussey asked the question, may have assumed - wrongly as it turned out - that Ms Fulani had been born overseas. Is there anything inherently wrong with that? No need to kick up a stink about it, just politely correct her and move on.

Similarly, there are plenty of people who are not ethnically Japanese who have Japanese citizenship (I don't), but it's a very small proportion in terms of the entire population, so it'd be natural for a Japanese to ask that's same question. If I were a citizen I wouldn't get offended, just politiely correct the person or make a joke of it, depending on the situation. But I'm not easily offended.

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Isn't it the context of the question?

Where are you from?

Add politics in the mix and it's a road to nowhere.

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No need to kick up a stink about it, just politely correct her and move on.

The reports I've read says she did correct her, but the older lady didn't move on but persisted with questions about her country.

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Baroness Hussey lives a privileged entitled life insulated from the common people.

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albaleoToday  05:27 pm JST

No need to kick up a stink about it, just politely correct her and move on.

The reports I've read says she did correct her, but the older lady didn't move on but persisted with questions about her country.

Perhaps, but I doubt it was intentionally racist. More likely she was asking about her heritage, but wasn't as diplomatic as she could've been. In any case, as itsonlyrocknroll pointed out, Ms Fulani was looking to make an issue out of it regardless of what happened.

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How many times does she have to say she is British ? It would seem for certain people it is still not enough.

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A stupid drama queen wanted to make publicity for herself and her "cause".... Where is she from?

The answer is Nigeria. Not that difficult was it.

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The answer is Nigeria. Not that difficult was it.

It obviously was for you. She was born in London.

If you want a fuller profile to appease your lack of knowledge, her parents came from Barbados.

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It matters that we comment and debate the issue even though we have different opinions.

Opinions voiced change minds.

The danger is silence, Ngozi Fulani provoked debate, I don't believe that is something to be a afraid of.

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I worked for several aristocratic families doing construction work. They all had a similar manner and attitude about them.

Worked on building domes for the previous 3rd Baron Montagu of Beaulieu at his car museum. He was at least reasonably pleasant and gay.

I think our days of aristocrats and privileged peers are well past their sell-by-dates.

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The posh, entitled, privileged have a very irritating and annoying habit of looking down their nose at what they deem as the great unwashed.

The condescending who let you in, is barely concealed behind a patronising demeanor.

Once, barely 18 was subjected to a family member suggesting my Mother/Japanese could carry the dinner on her head.

Then it was silence, now and quite rightly such attitudes are called out , if deemed necessary in court.

The pendulum swings both ways.

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She said the latest incident validated allegations made last year by Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, who said a member of the royal family had asked about the color of her unborn baby’s skin when she was pregnant with her first child. Meghan, Prince Harry’s wife, is biracial.

Perhaps I am naive, but I do not get how that is different to asking if the child will have red hair, because the father has red hair, if the eyes will be blue or green, or what sex the child will be. How is hue of skin a taboo topic when wondering what a child may look like when born? It is a jump (for me) to automatically assume the worst and call it racist. I call it overly sensitive and not a racist comment.

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Look, Harry & Meghan, and William & Kate will duel.

Back in the day Dukes assembled there armies and settled their differences on the battlefield or mounted horses and duled to the death.

2022, Netflix is on hand, alone with the Crown advisers and courtiers to deliver the press with slings and arrows.

King Charles needs as a Father to bang his siblings heads together.

Or the alternative is to take sides.

William and Harry should think carefully, their late Mother memory is at stake here.

Would Diana want such anger and contempt?

I think not.

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Baroness Hussey would not ask the same questions in the same manner to a white attendee.

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Absolutely wallace, why would the likes of Baroness Hussey like be presented with the Del boys and Rodney's of white culture?

No, Ngozi Fulani, chief executive of Sistah Space are far more right on in today's diverse culture driven social media dynamics.

The problem here is that Ngozi Fulani has a chip on her shoulder heavy enough to floor Baroness Hussey 83.

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After serving the queen for 60 years and traveling to many countries Baroness Hussey should have known how to speak to people.

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Paultovsky...

It obviously was for you. She was born in London.

Birth in the UK does not grant nationality. She is however, a UK citizen.

If you want a fuller profile to appease your lack of knowledge, her parents came from Barbados.

Her father is from the Igbo tribe in southern Nigeria.

She is determined to take offence where none was intended. She knows that, she would be better speaking out against real racism, not the harmless questions of an old lady.

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Everything is perceived is racist these days, so that actual racism (the harmful kind) will end up getting overlooked. Hint: When a Japanese person compliments you on your chopstick skills or asks if you can eat "raw fish" that's not racism. It's simply ignorance - with no bad intentions. Nobody sensible feels victimized by such comments, just slightly annoyed by them. However, when you are denied a place to live, or attacked on the street, or harassed by police because you look different, that is racism. Asking where someone's family is from is the former, not the latter.

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Yes wallace I agree these ladies in waiting maybe the past and no match for Ngozi Fulani of this world.

There is going to be more stress for the Crown.

King Charles is so laid back he is almost comatose to the dangers surrounding him.

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King Charles claimed he wants to modernize the royal family. The Queen Consort has done away with Ladies-in-Waiting.

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The husband of Baroness Hussey, Marmaduke Baron Hussey of North Bradley Hussey died in 2018 (83) his birthplace and nationality are unknown.

Not Much is known about Marmaduke Baron Hussey of North Bradley family and Relationships. All information about his private life is concealed.

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The modernisation process should have begun decades ago.

The disgruntled split between his sons didn't happen over night.

The parting of ways was waiting for Meghan Markel to prise them asunder.

Netflix has provided the razzmatazz and timing.

Netflix was never going to invest such a sum and walkaway with media tittle tattle.

The palace with all its resources underestimated Meghan Markel resolve and Harry's weakness.

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@Yrral Finally spot on!!!

The monarchy is the only thing British,have left to market to the world

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Chop ChopDec. 2  02:09 pm JST

Ngozi Fulani was look a likeAfrican and she was not look like British. If I were Lady Susan Hussey and then I'll ask her same questions like Lady Susan Hussey. There's no racist attitude and she was polite to speak with guest.

Ngozi said she was violated and insulted,

Because of their colonization and imperialism (and more), there have been Black Britons for over 200 years, if not more. Read your history books. It is a grave insult to say Ngazi doesn't 'look British', she IS/always has been that.

It's 2022, and for the first time their PM isn't white. He's of India descent. Are we going to say he doesn't 'look British' too?

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The father of Ngozi Fulani arrived on the Wind Rush ship.

Check out that and what the Tory government’s tried to do.

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Would she ask Sunak the same questions?

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albaleoDec. 2  05:27 pm JST

No need to kick up a stink about it, just politely correct her and move on.

The reports I've read says she did correct her, but the older lady didn't move on but persisted with questions about her country.

George Takei, the famous American actor of ethnic Japanese descent was detained (like all of his kind) in detention camps during WW2 because they didn't 'look American', and he will let you know it!

He knows damn well himself that these attitudes are destructive and wrong. In the aftermath of 9/11 there was plenty of hate talk in America about doing the same to Americans of Arabic/Iranian/India/Pakistani (don't ask why about all these ethnic groups) as well as of course all Muslims. George spoke out against that from his own experience and thank God/Allah it didn't happen.

And the so-called 'Muslim ban' that TraitorTrump initiated wasn't truly a ban on Muslims but a ban on those fleeing the crazy genocidal crap that ISIS was doing - Christians, Jews, Muslims, Bahais, Sikhs, Zoroastrians, anybody from certain nations. IOW, it was more of a racist agenda. And he sassed off his hateful mouth to our European allies, stating that they should be 'white' and not take in these refugees fleeing the ISIS (and Libya and Somalia).

wallaceDec. 3  04:14 pm JST

Would she ask Sunak the same questions?

Just like I said before. Sunak is a Brit, just like Obama is an American. Fact.

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The people at the reception were not there for their nationalities 

Sister Space is apparently a refuge for 'women of African and Caribbean heritage'. So when a victim of domestic violence turns up at their door sporting a light skin, is she let in no questions asked? Or do they ask her where she's from, what her heritage is? Would Meghan be allowed in?

The lady-in-waiting was obviously tone-deaf and should have shut up when Ms Fulani said she was British, but I also think Ms Fulani also doth protest too much.

if a Japanese person asks where I'm from, I don't get offended

Me neither, and it's not so much if as when. My kids look more Caucasian than Japanese, and they also get asked. When they reply they're Japanese/haafu and Mum is English, the reaction of the vast majority of people is Cool, often followed by Do you go to the UK often? Not once, as far as I know, have either of them ever been asked, *Yes, but where are you really from?*

commandeer - right on the button. There's a world of difference between harmful racism and annoying ignorance.

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