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John Bolton, a former Trump national security adviser who has been a frequent critic since leaving the administration in September, called the meeting's reported contents "appalling."

"There's no other way to describe it," he told CNN late Saturday. "It's unbelievable -- almost certainly completely without precedent."

But he also said such talk was not atypical from his former boss -- and a case of "incompetence" rather than "malevolence."

Bolton added: "He is unfit for the job."

When a right-wing conservative icon calls a Trump and his band of insurrectionists "appalling" and "incompetent and malevolent", you know how far they're out there....

Someone left the asylum doors open and the inmates all ran to the White House...

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There's too many checks and balances in place to ensure that a fascist coup doesn't occur.

That said, such reports are unnerving, esp with calls for a militia march on Washington in January. A grim historical parallell with Mussolini's march on Rome.

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Reports of martial law talk in Trump meeting draw outrage

That talk should draw outrage from anyone who believes in the democratic principles underlying the republic.

I can see authoritarians in Russia, China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, North Korea cheering for Trump along with the Bannon crowd and other anti-Americans in the global alt right. No doubt Qanon, RT, Breitbart, OAN, Newsmax and other anti-democracy media outlets are cheering Trump on.

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Trump's actions will almost certainly take the Swamp by surprise no matter how clearly he signals it.

Laurence Tribe just tweeted about Trump's EO, which he claims he just learned about, and it frightens him.

Note that Tribe is one of the left-wing legal "heavyweights" who gave the intellectual credibility and push to the impeachment coup. A long-time, "well-respected" Harvard law professor and a Vyshinsky for his masters. He was the law professor who, when Obama was at Harvard Law, claimed Obama helped him to write the much-mocked, crackpot legal article "The Curvature of Constitutional Space" , which is nonsense and bafflegarb even by the standards of law review articles. 

Anyway, the fact that Tribe just today sounded the alarm means I think a shift in "The Narrative" is coming from the MSM in the next few days. Now they will screech about Trump being a banana dictator and how the military should remove him before January 6th---you know, for the sake of "democracy"  and stuff.

Here’s an alarming Trump Executive Order dated 9/12/18 that I somehow missed until now. 

It’s EO 13848: 

The more people are aware of it, the less likely it will be that Trump can use it to pull off a sneak attack on our liberties before leaving office.

You will observe, of course, what an advantage is conveyed by possessing that vaunted 115 IQ with an advanced degree from an Ivy League college....

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Trump's actions will almost certainly take the Swamp by surprise no matter how clearly he signals it.

Laurence Tribe just tweeted about Trump's EO, which he claims he just learned about, and it frightens him.

Tribe wasn't mentioned in this article - Bolton and Romney were....try to stay on topic...

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Given rightists so often present arguments as binary, either one pole or its opposite, the far right (US and 'foreign') seem to be saying:

'you are for Trump (and his 'foreign' connections)'

OR

'you're for maintaining the US as a republic'.

In fairness to Trump and his supporters, they have been consistent, have been saying that since the 2016 election.

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Now they will screech about Trump being a banana dictator and how the military should remove him before January 6th---you know, for the sake of "democracy"  and stuff.

Some people are always late to the party. And it's not even fashionable anymore. It's been pretty evident since 2016 that 45 was a wannabe dictator, cosying up to Xi, Putin, MBS, Kim, Erdogan. Dialogue is commendable, but aping and praising demagogues isn't.

I'd rather not see a military coup, but I can't see the military going along with 45s wish list.

The US military (unlike so many cops) are there to protect American citizens.

You know, against the sort of guy who tries to overturn democracy, ponders martial law and stuff.

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Trump keeps managing to find new lows and history will record this along with all the many things Trump has gotten wrong in four years of holding office. The end result will be a Trump legacy of anti America and anti democracy while trying to steal power over a country he hates and can in no way lead. Trump continues to ignore the nation while focused solely on stealing the election he lost by a huge margin. Nothing is off the table for Trump and many in the Republican party are really worrying that their enabling of this mad man is going to be the end of a democratic America and the beginning of a Trump dynasty to rival Kim's in North Korea now in it's third generation.

The US military may have to choose between supporting the will of the people or supporting the dictator currently in office to stay there. Not the traditional role of the military but it is sworn to protect the nation from threats both external and internal.

Let us hope a peaceful transition can occur and Trump wakes up to the reality it is all over for him.

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Trump said he wouldn't order martial law.

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Something must be seriously seriously wrong with Trump and his thought process if he looks at Sidney Powell and sees a beacon of truth. Even she was too much for Tucker Carlson. What gives?

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Trump said he wouldn't order martial law.

Trump aya’s a lot of things, few of which are accurate or true. That, however, doesn’t prevent morons and the willfully ignorant from believing him.

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*say, Aya’s has nothing to do with it.

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Trump said he wouldn't order martial law.

Only Trump's most loyal followers can believe a single word he says.

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Looks very similar to Romes last days, Caligula must be proud of his best Demi God yet.

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Looks like confected outrage to me. Where's the proof he said it?

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Liberals just crack me up, if they cared about democracy they wouldn’t have tried for 4 years to weaponize the intel agencies to take down this President, that time using a fake dossier to drum up a fake Russia, Russia, Russia hoax investigation which the tax payers still didn’t get reimbursed to oust this President which failed miserably, then they tried to Impeach this President on more false accusations which they couldn’t prove and then t(st blew it their face, now they’re claiming moral outrage because of a comment Trump Flynn said? Give me a break. Dems need to get their house in order before they start throwing stones.

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Trump bunkered down in the Oval Office and plotting coups with two certified wackos like Flynn and Powell is even creepier than the last days of Nixon when he was praying on his knees with Kissinger and wandering the halls talking to the portraits of Washington and Lincoln...

Congress should just pass the Stimulus Bill then have an immediate vote on the 25th Amendment and get this clearly mentally impaired individual out of office ASAP...

Let Pence mind the fort for 30 days...

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Unhinged, loopy, insane...there is not enough words to describe this idiot. Isn't there something in the US constitution to get rid of a President when it is obvious they are unfit for office.?

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Trump's advisers are reportedly floating the idea of invoking martial law. Is this pure nonsense or has it an element of truth in the final hours of his presidency?

Better not true, or else...

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It wasn't fake. Trump was impeached. Flynn, "lock him up".

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Liberals just crack me up, if they cared about democracy they wouldn’t have tried for 4 years to weaponize the intel agencies to take down this President,

They didn’t.

that time using a fake dossier to drum up a fake Russia, Russia, Russia hoax investigation which the tax payers still didn’t get reimbursed to oust this President which failed miserably,

Except for all of the criminals they found.

then they tried to Impeach this President on more false accusations which they couldn’t prove and then t(st blew it their face,

Trump was impeached. The spineless senate refused to even hear the evidence before it acquitted Trump.

now they’re claiming moral outrage because of a comment Trump Flynn said? Give me a break. Dems need to get their house in order before they start throwing stones.

If a democrat president said this, your head would explode and you’d be calling for all the gun nutters to March on DC.

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It wasn't fake. Trump was impeached.

And acquitted...for life

Flynn, "lock him up".

And got pardoned...for life.

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then they tried to Impeach this President

They did impeach this President. Remember the great Pelosi meme:

“I moved on him like a bitch. I don’t even ask. I just start impeaching and when you are leader of the house, they let you do it”.

Even some Trump partisans found that funny. It was a good one, wasn’t it?

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They didn’t.

They did, Comey, Strzok, Page, McCabe and Ohr all conspired to take the President down, the tapes and transcripts are available for the public to read and hear in their own words. Unless Seth MacFarlene is that good.

Except for all of the criminals they found.

Trump was the intended target and they kept missing

Trump was impeached.

And then acquitted...for life, in the records.

If a democrat president said this, your head would explode

No, because I never let emotion drive my thoughts.

.

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Trump and Flynn two peas in a pod and guilty men who escaped justice. Lawyer Sidney Powell with the most insane conspiracy theories. She don't care one iota of truth.

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Why are we still talking about this? Trump is a cooked goose. He will be gone in one month.

The end.

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Who all in the Trump admin are moles besides Trump (his family, too?) and Flynn?

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On January 21, 2021, Flynn needs to be charged with Sedition. And Sidney Powell needs to be disbarred. And institutionalized. White House is a Clown House.

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And acquitted...for life

As I noted in my post. Wait until Cyrus Vance Jr. finishes with him, then he may not be acquitted.

They did, Comey, Strzok, Page, McCabe and Ohr all conspired to take the President down, the tapes and transcripts are available for the public to read and hear in their own words. Unless Seth MacFarlene is that good.

Links?

No, because I never let emotion drive my thoughts.

This directly conflicts with your incessant screeching in hyperbolic terms about liberals and democrats.

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Even a discussion on using the military to over thrown the election is so UnAmerican and fascist.

Come Jan 20 it's all over for Trump.

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"It's really sad in a lot of respects, and embarrassing, because the president could, right now, be writing the last chapter of this administration with a victory lap...." 

Mitt Romney is not the only Republican with a backbone, but he’s the most outspoken. He talks a lot of sense. It would be wise for his fellow Republicans to listen.

Or as someone else said; “live with it crybabies”.

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The end.

I admire your positivity, but Trump(ism) will not go away any time soon. It's a huge industry generating millions of dollars for right wing grifters in the US and around the globe. There's much more money still to be made by conmen and -women everywhere.

Plus the angrier the rightists can make Trump's base, the more guns and ammo sold, hence higher profits for those industries.

And look at media outlets like OAN, Newsmax, RT/Sputnik (Russia's oil and gas sales are down, they need to get revenues elsewhere), Breitbart and wacks like Alex Jones, Hannity, Tucker and so many others. They know they need to keep throwing more 'red' meat at their base to get even richer.

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Trump won't pardon his family in case they try to give evidence against him.

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Mentally deficient. Morally deficient. He needs psychiatric care, a straitjacket, and a ball gag.

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Bass:. They did, Comey, Strzok, Page, McCabe and Ohr all conspired to take the President down

Comey, a Republican appointed by Trump.

Page, a Republican appointed by Trump.

Rosenstein, a Republican appointed by Trump.

McCabe, a Republican appointed by Trump.

Those darn Democrats.

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Banana Republic does not fit the US anymore. Oh you poor westerns, I pity you.

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The US president preventing a coup, and the “liberals” meltdown.

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Flynn recently told a Newsmax television interviewer that Trump could "take military capabilities and place them in those (battleground) states and basically rerun our election."

I am in no position to do anything about this but I dare him to try! I am 100% sure the Joint Chiefs would defy his order but if they didn't there would be an all-out civil war. People like Flynn and Trump are dangerous to democracy and are a total disgrace to the United States. I bet the Russians are absolutely loving this right now.

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As I noted in my post. Wait until Cyrus Vance Jr. finishes with him, then he may not be acquitted.

Trump will not be going to prison unless they try and pin a crime on him, good luck with that. He’s been audited a few times, they tried so again, good luck with that.

Links?

The tapes and Transcripts are public knowledge.

This directly conflicts with your incessant screeching

No, I don’t screech, I leave that to liberals.

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Donald was trumped in the election. A sore loser and like Alexander Lukashenko will do anything to try and hold onto his power.

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Comey, a Republican appointed by Trump.

Page, a Republican appointed by Trump. 

Rosenstein, a Republican appointed by Trump.

McCabe, a Republican appointed by Trump.

Those darn Democrats

Nope, more like those darn swamp establishment rats. Nice try though....

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Trump has been the greatest, biggest liar to ever enter the Oval Office but really, not something to be proud of. Where will he make his library, Florida. Bound to try and make money from that project.

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"Ego Sum Lux Mundi",

so why is it that even White House Counsel Pat A. Cipollone told him he can't do that?

But I must agree, the military may come to help the White House ..... by hauling Trump out of there!

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Trump has been the greatest, biggest liar to ever enter the Oval Office

Not even remotely close. Lol

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While Trump may be a lame-duck...that doesn't mean he isn't still interested in international diplomacy....

He, Flynn, and Powell are in contact with Putin, XI, Kim, the Mullahs, the Saudis, and trying to reach Hugo Chavez to get pointers on how to launch a coup and install a dictatorship....

For some reason they are having trouble contacting Hugo...

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Records and fact checking show Trump since taking office has lied more than 20,000 times. Available for the public to read.

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"zichi",

to be very exact:

1316 days - 22.247 false statements, claims, etc.

And this is the count until July this year.

Guess we can add a couple (of hundred) more.

The man is living in a parallel world where only his voice is heard!

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Well, as a Trump supporter, I fully support our President as he shreds the Constitution and installs himself in power as our King for life...

He would have been legitimately elected of it wasn't for Hillary, Elvis, Bigfoot, and Hugo Chavez stealing all those ballots...

Declare marital law - don't allow anyone outside or in a voting booth unless they are wearing a red MAGA hat and carrying a Confederate flag...

No mail in voting - that's just all fraud....except those homes that have a Trump/Pence 2020 sign in the yard...

Now that will Make America, or better yet MAGAstan, Great Again...

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Trump will not be going to prison unless they try and pin a crime on him, good luck with that. He’s been audited a few times, they tried so again, good luck with that.

Given how shoddy Trump runs his businesses and that he had to shut down his charity for illegally using its funds for political purposes, you may want to be careful making predictions.

The tapes and Transcripts are public knowledge.

This isn’t how you spell, “I don’t have any links to support my assertions.”

No, I don’t screech, I leave that to liberals.

An emotionally driven statement.

Nope, more like those darn swamp establishment rats. Nice try though....

So, Trump’s so incompetent that he appointed a load of swamp establishment rats. Got it.

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Not even remotely close. Lol

So who is the biggest liar to ever enter the Oval Office? And before you answer remember that there are documented lie counts and checks.

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Trump has been the greatest, biggest liar to ever enter the Oval Office but really, not something to be proud of.

Do you have any apologies to make since YOU said Trump was a liar for saying that the Covid vaccine would be out by the end of the year? That and how do you know about EVERY single President that has entered the oval office and whether or not they were honest as a non-American?

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Do you have any apologies to make since YOU said Trump was a liar for saying that the Covid vaccine would be out by the end of the year? That and how do you know about EVERY single President that has entered the oval office and whether or not they were honest as a non-American?

Weak sauce, even for a Trump fan.

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Trump is like a crooked stick, walking a crooked mile. Raked in more than $250 million for his PAC and personal use. Save Trump.

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Weak sauce, even for a Trump fan.

Even CNN, your Bible, praised Trump for it. That is some weak sauce, ain't it?

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Bass:. Nope, more like those darn swamp establishment rats

Are you calling Republicans appointed by Trump "establishment rats?"

Agreed.

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The US military dares him and his cronies to try... And they'll probably be the ones forcefully ejecting him from office.

It will be the most watched thing on TV if Trump tries to stay in the WH.

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Liberals are just kidding themselves if they think the President is going off to some prison for the rest of his life, won’t happen for a multitude of reasons and as with Comey and the other former agents that tried to get Trump, if these people having done what they did didn’t go to Prison, Trump won’t go either and why would he and on what grounds? Hating someone won’t get you the political result you want.

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Maybe people should read this article, published on Bloomberg.

It pretty much sums up what POTUS has (or not) been doing all his life!

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/america-isn-t-finished-paying-130022882.html

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Even CNN, your Bible, praised Trump for it. That is some weak sauce, ain't it?

You consume CNN? Nobody who is serious bothers with that trash. It’s as bad as Fox “News.”

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Wild assumptions, crazy deflections and outright lies. It’s a hard life as a trump supporter on here and getting harder day by day.

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Liberals are just kidding themselves if they think the President is going off to some prison for the rest of his life, won’t happen for a multitude of reasons

Another of your predictions. You’ve basically guaranteed Trump will go to prison by predicting he won’t.

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Fake news! Trump would have tweeted it already. NYT, loosing their marbles.

-3 ( +3 / -6 )

Another of your predictions. You’ve basically guaranteed Trump will go to prison by predicting he won’t.

No, just saying, he won’t, not a prediction, a promise.

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He, Flynn, and Powell are in contact with Putin, XI, Kim, the Mullahs, the Saudis, and trying to reach Hugo Chavez to get pointers on how to launch a coup and install a dictatorship....

And we've just learned from a reporter what suggestions each of these friends of Trump have told him as he tries to stage a coup....

Putin: Have one of your foreign friends give your opponent millions of dollars in dodgy loans, then tell him you'll make that public if they don't do everything you say....works every time...don't you think?

Xi: Frame the Democrats for some trumped-up (haha) charge, then arrest, convict, and send them to a gulag prison in some barren, foreboding place - like Mississippi...

Kim: Sorry - can't help - you don't have to assassinate your brother to remain in power...

The Mullahs: Have your armed Proud Boy militias storm Congress and hold Pelosi and all the Dems as hostages for 444 days...

The Saudis: One word my friend - bone saws...

Hugo? Hugo? ........

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