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Republican Party future in balance as Trump trial looms

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By Ben Sheppard

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The GOP made a deal with the devil.

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The Republicans have shown they do not have enough supporters to take the White House in a fair election. The bankster/country club/old money R'S know that. To get more votes, the GOP have accepted Qanon, white supremacists, ultra-right thugs and other dangerous wacks while using dark money from 'foreign' states to finance their candidates.

It’s sadly enjoyable watching the GoO reap what it has sown.

They have reaped what they've sown, but having done so has put the country at even greater risk of attacks from domestic terrorists.

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Look for GOP efforts to increase voter suppression from here.

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Party leaders are under pressure to take action against the lawmaker, whose past online posts have indicated support for executing Democrats and claimed school shootings were staged to undermine backing for gun rights.

Taylor Greene/Duke 2024.

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No decent lawyer wants anything to do with donald, ROFL.

It is disgraceful that the immoral GOP idiots still seek this clown's approval for their illegitimate policies!!!

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It appears that Donald Trump and his election fraud lie may be doing to the GOP on a national scale what Pete Wilson and lies underlying Prop 187 did to the GOP in California. The parallels including the stubborn refusal to acknowledge and adapt to the changes in the US and the world as a whole, especially wrt demographics, are hard to miss.

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trump's whole defense team left last week because their strategy was to argue that you cannot convict an ex-president! They were going to use the Supreme court case about emolument as an example.

trump wanted them to argue that he is innocent because of voter fraud, so the insurrection was justified! They said that they would not win, and he fired them.

Bannon now wants trump to defend himself to scare the Senate Republicans and get more publicity for donations!

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I predict all the Red states like Georgia that were flipped will pass some of the strictest voter suppression laws for the next election. That will also involve mail-in ballots.

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trump wanted them to argue that he is innocent because of voter fraud, so the insurrection was justified! They said that they would not win, and he fired them.

There is a little more to it than that. The American legal system is based on confrontation and attorney's are expected to zealously represent their client (many don't, don't ask me how I know this but in theory at least they do). However American Bar Association ethics rules prohibit an attorney to advance an argument that is based on information known to be untrue. To do so would expose them to discipline and even disbarment by the ABA. They could lose their licenses to practice law. Logically they refused to make that argument. Apparently Mr. Trump was not inclined to listen to sound legal advice on this particular matter.

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All Qanon believers, all supporters and boosters of treason against the government of the United States, and all who endanger their colleagues should be expelled from Congress. They are dangerous and are putting the nation at very real risk through their presence.

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Grovelling loyalty to the orange man and look what he does in return, haven't these people learned anything?

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The Republican party absolutely must divorce itself from Trump and Trumpism if it wants to continue. A sane conservative party to counter balance the liberals is necessary to maintain the balance that is the United States. The witch must be burned at the stake. As for the not-sane Trump supporters they need collective therapy to understand that Trump is the only one "Stealing" an election. They need to decide if they want to to return to being Americans who respect the democratic ideals on which our country is built. The White Supremacist groups, Qanon crowd are domestic terrorists and need to be wiped out. The Republican Party can save itself, if it has the will.

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I'm afraid the Republican Party is dead....gone....finito....

I thought it had been gone for some time but the recent vote where 45 Repub Senators lacked the courage or integrity to just continue with the impeachment, not actually vote to impeach, was the nail in the coffin.

It is now the Cult of Trump - the party of fascists, fools, and freaks...

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 the party of fascists, fools, and freaks...

As opposed to the party of communists, fools, and freaks.

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the party of fascists, fools, and freaks...

As opposed to the party of communists, fools, and freaks.

Very original...

The Q Shaman agrees with you...

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Trump appears set to present the worst of defenses to GoP jurors who are predisposed not to convict. It normally will be the GoP's undoing if they do not take this seriously. However, GoP voters have the Fox opinion "news" and other right wing media baiting them into believing the unbelievable in cult like fashion.

The Democrats also must not let Trump use the trial as a pulpit to further lie to and incite the public. Then again, Trump has not been a very good witness for himself in past depositions, e.g., the value of my company depends on how I feel on a given day. AND, there is a lot of public evidence of illegal attempts to circumvent the election and to call on militias to do just what they did.

On the bright side, Trump is in civil and criminal legal jeopardy on many sides, state/federal, pre-presidency and during his presidency. The DOJ recently charged someone in connected to the Mueller investigation, and there is a possibility that the DOJ would convene a grand jury to consider the 10 instances of obstruction identified in the report. The DOJ probably isn't happy with the pardons of convicted Trump associates. Maybe one reason Trump moved to Florida is to shelter his "home" from lawsuits. A former football player moved to Florida for that reason, oh and to golf.

So, Trump is more likely a problem for the GoP going forward than the country.

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Morality is the Dodo of the republican party, its been beaten out of existence.

The few people still trying to do what is right have to face the depraved zealots like Greene, gaetz and gym jordon.

I am glad John McCain didn't have to witness the level of rot that has afflicted his party.

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The few people still trying to do what is right have to face the depraved zealots like Greene, gaetz and gym jordon.

It was surprised to see attacks on Liz Cheney.

Maybe I should have expected it, but it is still shocking to see the rot.

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Alan Dershowitz was interviewed a couple of weeks ago speaking out angrily against the unconstitutionality of impeaching Trump, so you'd think he'd be lining up to represent the ex-president.

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Here is what's so ironic and at the same time hilarious about this upcoming impeachment trial...

Trump fired his lawyers because they were focused on the argument that impeachment cannot occur when the defendant is no longer in office. Whether you agree with that argument or not, you could actually find some legal and constitutional experts to call as witnesses that would support that view...

Trump wants his defense to focus on his bogus claims of fraud...an argument that everyone except QAnon knows is flat false. Who's Trump going to call as witnesses? The Georgia Repub Governor and Sec of State that said the vote was accurate? Maybe his Repub cohort Bill Barr who will testify there was no evidence of large scale fraud that would have affected the outcome?

So what does this do? It puts Repub Senators in an even more difficult spot - one might give them a pass for voting against impeachment based on the no longer in office argument.

But the "I won and the election was stolen" fairy tale? They'll look ridiculous and like craven little eunuchs if they vote against impeachment based on that...

Just one more example of Trump putting a nail in the Repub Party coffin....

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It's Trump vs the swamp (Dem and Rep).

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Trump . . . A delusional man of a delusional party.

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Republican Party future in balance as Trump trial looms

I had hoped that he would start a Maga party, seeing how infested by Rinos the GOP is.

If the party establishment wins and throws Trump under the bus, then fundamentally the country has one uni-party with two names, agreeing on the same swamp agenda. Sad, unless you admire the Chinese model.

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I predict Trump will be exonerated again. But that’s just a wild guess on my part.

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I predict Trump will be exonerated again. But that’s just a wild guess on my part.

Of course he will. Not because he's innocent, but because the GOP is a cult of personality.

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Trump is the swamp monster. Most corrupt administration every. Impeached twice is four years for corruption and criminal behavior. And Trump is the Republican Party today and will be for as long as he lives. The insurrection folks make up the majority of the party and worship Trump without end, same as those that worshiped David Koresh.

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zurcronium

Trump is the swamp monster.

A swamp monster hated by the very swamp that he promised and tried to drain?

Now that is an interesting world view.

Most corrupt administration every.

First 4 years in a very long time without any new misguided foreign wars. If that is your definition of "corrupt", then lets have it for corruption-.

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lincolnman

I agree wholeheartedly - all the Trump supporters should pack up and leave the Republican Party. Why hang around with those RINOs and swampers - free yourself - just tell the Repubs you quit.

Strangely, we completely agree here.

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I agree wholeheartedly - all the Trump supporters should pack up and leave the Republican Party. Why hang around with those RINOs and swampers - free yourself - just tell the Repubs you quit.

Strangely, we completely agree here.

Indeed...Trump supporters should dump the Repub Party - go from the GOP to the COT - Cult of Trump...

It's definitely a winning strategy...

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trump is far too lazy to do the work of creating a political party, getting on 50 state ballots, recruiting candidates and campaigning for someone other than himself.

And he is so stupid that his lawyers fired him. All they had to say was “Our guy is out of office. You cannot convict him.” (this is a bs argument) an 45 invertebrate Eunuchs had already signaled an acquittal.

And finally, the GOP is really dumb for not tying the trump “brand” to a heavy weight and throwing into 10,000 feet of water. Trump is radioactive to a vast majority of the electorate and as long as they’re associated with trump, the GOP has no chance of being a governing power. There’s a reason “Gym” Jordan isn’t running for Senate in OH. It’s because he wins his highly gerrymander district, but loses on a state wide level. Sure, they will continue to challenge at the House level, and certain slime balls like chinless Ted will continue to impose their presence upon us, but as a governing party, they’re done. they’ve proven that they cannot be trusted

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If donald creates a party, it will go bankrupt in a year, he doesn't have a stellar record with creating things!!!

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