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Republicans' convention will be no Tea Party

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“It’s a piece of paper,” said Olsen, a Tea Party leader in Columbia, South Carolina. “It doesn’t mean squat.”

I BET he really said, "It don't mean squat" and they edited it.

But some Tea Partiers aren’t enthusiastic about influencing the Republican platform.

See, here's the thing... on election day, across the USA, and party headquarters, the Democrats serve donuts (doughnuts) and coffee, while the Republicans have some pretty good food. The Tea Party will ask everyone to bring their own food. They think nobody needs food or drinks.

I'm sure there is a metaphor in here somewhere about how the Tea Party wants to criticize government, but has no plan of their own...

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The Tea Party has BECOME the Republican Party; proof is that GOPers are too terrified to introduce legislation without their seal of approval and that moderate GOP legislators are retiring rather than face challengers from their right.

The only reason they will take a visually subordinate role in Tampa is that the GOP establishment, which still has a ceremonial role, is certain (and with good reason) that these extremists will alienate even moderate conservatives.

Be sure, though: a vote for Romney is a vote for the Tea Party. He will never be his own man; he will be a figurehead for an increasingly marginalized GOP.

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"So even as Romney declared himself to be “severely conservative” in front of a Tea Party-infused crowd in Washington in February, Tea Party members spent most of the presidential primary season backing Rick Santorum"

"While they prefer him to Obama, many Tea Partiers will not vote for Romney, said Judson Phillips,"

“I’m not going to go out and try to help him (Rpmney),” said Allen Olson, a carpenter who is the founder of the Tea Party group in Columbia, South Carolina."

Lol!

You couldn't write this stuff!  :-)

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Just when the TPublicans thought they were going to nominate an unelectable, serial flip-flopping, spineless. Protector Of The 1%, they found they were right.    :-)

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I'll be first to admit that one reassuring thing about Mitt Romney is that - occasionally - he can be consistent.

On his recent world tour to tout his statesmanship and foreign policy street cred Mitt Romney was a total worldwide embarrassment.

Now back home where people should be more familiar with his language, culture and characteristic nuances, Mitt Romney is STILL a total embarrassment - whether it's due to his hiding his tax returns, his top spokeswoman yesterday supporting Romney's number 1 achievement - the healthcare bill he passed in Mass., or the way he has more positions than the Kama Sutra - at least he is sometimes consistent!

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@SushiSake3, "TPUBLICANS"- this is a good one. I love it!

@Farmboy, Democrats for donuts and coffee, republicans for good rich food and TP for potluck. Not only that, at the end, TP ask more support for NRA.

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If the GOP rocket scientists could somehow create a candidate clone comprising Sarah Palin's wink and down home  charm, Dick Cheney's evil stare, G Dub's Texan swagger, the morally-bankrupt, America-hating fervor of the Tea Party, and Mitt Romney's bank account, they might actually have a chance this a November. :-)

Alas, sadly........

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Not only that, at the end, TP ask more support for NRA.

To be fair, Tea Party folks seem nice. I just don't know why anyone would vote for them. Here's Allen Olson, the guy in the article.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vdwyK6Xu6o

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If the GOP rocket scientists could somehow create a candidate clone comprising Sarah Palin's wink and down home charm, Dick Cheney's evil stare, G Dub's Texan swagger, the morally-bankrupt, America-hating fervor of the Tea Party, and Mitt Romney's bank account....

President Franklinstein!

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Tea baggers are going to drive the Republican party right off a cliff. There is a VERY good reason that they are being "snubbed". It is because about 60% of the county (Yes, I pulled this number out of my rectum but it seems about right: 40% Democratic 20% Independent.) thiinks that they are bat-sh#t crazy and would rather vote for the "Not Insane, Uneducated, or Poorly Informed" canditate.

Romney MUST win at least some independent votes (as well as a few conservative/pro-life Democrats) if he has a prayer in Hell of winning. The Tea Baggers are like the rich, but "excentric" Uncle that the family tries to hide when company comes over. The problem is that he keeps comming to the dinner table naked except for a Halloween mask with a gun in his hand talking about the aliens in his closet the FBI wont investigate.

My prediction is that the more intrenched the TBers become in the Republican Party, the farther that party will be removed from the levers of power. Individual candidates will absolutely own their districts or states (like Michelle "this is my thoughtful stare, not my vacant stare" Bachman), but the odds of the party winning both houses of congress and the presidency look bleaker as the TBer's power waxes.

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The only reason the TP came on the scene was because the GOP was becoming too liberal.

But no size of government is too small for the TP, hence they will vote to terminate their own welfare benefits and turn on their GOP buddies, who will also vote to terminate their own welfare benefits.

All to protect the tax cuts of The Job Creators who aren't creating any.

As I said, you couldn't write this stuff. :-)

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Seriously, when are the conservatives going to nominate a candidate who actually has a hope in h*ll of competing?

If they stick with Mitt, it's going to become obvious straight away that their strategy all along has been to throw this election and hope for better days in 2016.

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"... highlighted the Tea Party’s ability to influence statewide races - a success it has not yet attained in a race for national office."

And that won't change anytime soon. The Tea Party will only have success in local and state level elections. Funny how you haven't heard a peep from the Tea Party members of Congress lately. Are they laying low because of the election?

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FarmboyAug. 10, 2012 - 09:59AM JST

Not only that, at the end, TP ask more support for NRA.

To be fair, Tea Party folks seem nice. I just don't know why anyone would vote for them

@Farmboy, I live in Colorado. We had a fierce political race for Senate seat between Michael Bennet (d) vs Ken Buck(TP) in 2010. Michael Bennet defeated Ken Buck, but the race was very close. I am sharing a weblink about him. He is officially registered as a Republican member, but actually he was running as a TP here in CO.

Buck supports gun rights and is endorsed by Gun Owners of America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Buck

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I obtained a leaked copy of some of the activities that will be held at the DNC convention: 4:00 PM - Opening Flag Burning Ceremony - sponsored by CNN 4:05 PM - Singing of "God Damn America " led by Rev. Jeremiah Wright 4:15 PM - Ceremonial 'I hate America' led by Michelle Obama 4:30 PM - Tips on "How to keep your man trustworthy & true to you while you travel the world" - Hillary Clinton 4:45 PM -Al Sharpton / Jesse Jackson seminar "How to have a successful career without having a job." 5:00 PM - "Great Vacations I've Taken on the Taxpayer's Dime Travel Log" - Michelle Obama 5:30 PM - Eliot Spitzer Speaks on "Family Values" via Satellite 9:15 PM - Tribute Film to Brave Freedom Fighters incarcerated at GITMO - Michael Moore 9:30 PM - Anthony Weiner entertains audience with his personal slide presentation 9:45 PM - Personal Finance Seminar - Charlie Rangle 12:00 AM - Official Nomination of Obama by Bill Maher and Chris "He sends a thrill up my leg" Matthews

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The upcoming convention is a joke. Ron Paul had a plurality of delegates in more than 5 states, and should be recognized as a nominee for the convention. But Mitt's team have used many different deceptive dirty tricks to disqualify Paul delegates and are trying to exclude him from the convention.

If they succeed in excluding him from the convention, the convention and the election will be completely meaningless, as there is so little difference between Obama and Mitt; and America will be equally doomed regardless of which of the two clowns wins.

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So why would a Republican convention try to distance themselves from the Tea Party?

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100 percent pure unadulterated, in the tank for Obama Media Bias:

Obama needs to depress voter turn-out in the Republican base if he hopes to win.

This article is more than happy to carry that water for him:

While they prefer him to Obama, many Tea Partiers will not vote for Romney, said Judson Phillips, a Tea Party leader from Nashville, Tennessee, who puts that figure as high as “one-third to one-half” of Tea Party activists.

Yes he said that.......BACK IN January 2nd, 2012

“I think I told you this before, we’ve done surveys on our site where it shows one third to one half of the Tea Party members will not vote for Mitt Romney if he is the nominee in the general election But Iowa is the first step in this whole process. A week from now we will be talking about New Hampshire, two weeks from now, we’ll be talking about South Carolina and three weeks from now we will talk about Florida.”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/tea-party-nation-founder-the-tea-party-will-never-rally-behind-mitt-romney/

He said this after Romney started to prevail in the Primaries:

The leader of the Tea Party Nation organization has a blunt message for likely Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney: Tea partiers will likely vote for you, but don’t expect them to get energized and campaign for you.

“The tea party is not going to coalesce around Romney,” Judson Phillips told The Daily Caller on Thursday. “Most of us will vote for Romney, but we will not be out there with signs for him or in his campaign.”

http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/13/tea-party-leader-warns-romney-dont-expect-us-to-campaign-for-you/

Good Job, Media for once again proving you can't be trusted in your reporting.

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Prediction (unlikely but not entirely unbelievable): Romney will introduce his VP nominee as such:

I know you are all eager for me to reveal my vice president nominee, but I will not do so. Trust that I have chosen one, and trust that he or she is most qualified. Under law, I must choose a nominee, and I have done so, thus fulfilling all legal requirements. Revealing this nominee's identity, however, will simply give ammunition to our critics. Once they have a name, they will seek other information such as gender, experience and political philosophy. These are all well beyond the requirements I am required by law to supply; I demur (and for those of you who do not speak French, that means no). I have chosen the best nominee in the land, and he or she is more than fully qualified for the job. Please vote for our ticket, Romney/other man (or woman)!

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As I said, why isn't the Tea Party threatening to shut down the government before November? Not once this whole year I believe. The answer is that the Republican Party knows how unpopular they (Tea Party) are nationally and how it would hurt their chances in the election.

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Tatanka:

For your whole post:

Thanks for the giggle.

Good Job, Media for once again proving you can't be trusted in your reporting.

Sailwind:

But the media can be trusted. You can count on their bias, like the sun rising. And you can count on your obvious refuting of this story, being ignored...

It's always interesting to see to what degree liberals will go, to appear liberal.

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SuperLibAug. 10, 2012 - 12:11PM JST

So why would a Republican convention try to distance themselves from the Tea Party?

@SuperLib

Apparently, Karl Rove thinks so. He is still the boss for GOP.

Tea Party has been financially backed by two richest men of USA-Koch Brothers in TX known as "America for Prosperity". They had poured millions for CO senate seat race; Michael Bennet (D) vs Ken Koch (TP), but their attempt failed. Michael Bennet won the senate seat in 2010.. But the Koch brothers successfully took governor's seat of Wisconsin-Gov. Scott Walker (TP) and Sen. Scott Brown of Mass.

Is Karl Rove Still the GOP's Puppet Master?

http://www.alternet.org/hot-news-views/karl-rove-still-gops-puppet-master

Therefore, this 2012 presidential election is actually OBAMA vs Karl Rove.

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@Pamelot "Thanks for the giggle" to Tatanka. I second that. It's funny to hear all those old names like Jeremiah Wright recycled from the 2008 campaign, like seeing a washed up comedian with no new material. Here are some more retro names that would have been hilarious for Tatanka to claim are speaking or performing on day two:

Bill Ayers 1:00 "Setting up reeducation camps to overcome years of mental 'foot binding'"

(Fill in the blank) Kennedy 1:30 "Camelot: A Sociolinguistic Retelling"

Jimmy Carter 2:00 "The philosophy of Peanuts (no not the food)"

Bill Clinton 2:30 "Unpacking Charlie Sheen's philosophy of 'winning'"

Barry Soetero 3:00 "Writing victory speeches"

Don King 3:30 "Hair today, hair tomorrow"

Mike Tyson 4:00 "Pigeon breeding and ear gnashing"

Don Imus 4:30 "Why you never say 'nappy heading' nothing"

Don Henley 5:00 "The pioneers who built Winslow, Arizona"

Dan Rather 5:30 "The legendary prowess of Texas national guard pilots in southeast asia"

Charlie Sheen 6:00 "Winning. Why I let only Billy Clinton and Barry 'O' use my patented phrase."

Ha ha, funny right? I just made up a bunch of BS and subverted the lamestream media. I'll take a slice of "kudos" on my cracker.

"Thanks, Media." Is this an allegory? Mr. Media didn't write this article, Samuel P. Jacobs did. Thank him. Or start your own media venue so you can quit sniveling about how there's no media representing you.

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Mr. Media didn't write this article, Samuel P. Jacobs did. Thank him.

Mr. Media printed his reporting.

But since you insist, thanks Mr. Jacobs for being nothing but a biased left-wing hack that distorts stories and making a mockery of the once honorable profession know as Journalism.

From Reuters:

Sam is a Reuters correspondent covering the 2012 campaign. Previously, he was an associate editor at Newsweek and a staff reporter for The Daily Beast.

From Wikipedia:

For several years Newsweek has displayed a bias favoring the political left wing and the magazine took a hard left after it merged with the Daily Beast. Newsweek now features columns like Paul Begala who also runs the Obama political PAC that consistently runs false ads. With its sharp left turn Newsweek has lost all credibility and is seen as nothing more than a talking piece for the liberal wing of the Democratic party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsweek

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@Sushi

Just when the TPublicans thought they were going to nominate an unelectable, serial flip-flopping, spineless. Protector Of The 1%, they found they were right. :-)

You still like to whine and make the same baseless point that Romney is a flip-floper, but didn't Obama say, he wasn't going to raise taxes on the middle class...oops, how about Guantanamo, how about that Yawwn...boring speech he made that "the end" of Rove-style politics will come to an end, we will be a transparent government, he was against gay marriage, now he's ok with it and this all happened within the last 3 months. Sorry, Romney may not be perfect, but if you think that Obama is even a microbe more honest then, you over sweetened your kool-aid to the max! If you check Webster's on the definition of "flip flop" you'll see Obama's photo right next to it.

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@Global

Correction!

Therefore, this 2012 presidential election is actually OBAMA vs Karl Rove.

You mean, Romney vs George Soros.

There, I fixed it for you.

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@Sushi

Seriously, when are the conservatives going to nominate a candidate who actually has a hope in h*ll of competing?

They have one, but the bigger question is, how will we get the current occupant of the WH out, so that we don't have to embarrass ourselves any further than we already have. This joke of a President and I say that very loosely.

If they stick with Mitt, it's going to become obvious straight away that their strategy all along has been to throw this election and hope for better days in 2016.

Nice try, but NO cigar. Romney is NO superstar, but he is a heavyweight when it comes to creating jobs, so I would rather go with that, so I think your analyses is way off the mark!

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This circus freakshow is just warming up. Even Bozo is shaking his head.

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Looks like the Yank mud-slinging superbowl has begun in earnest. Having zero interest in the outcome, I'm outa here until the first Tuesday in November.

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@Virtuoso: "Yank mud-slinging" Yeee-haw pardner, join in if you want!

@bass:"If you check Websters...there's a picture of [insert candidate's name]"

Yeah, but what if you don't use a picture (er, kids) dictionary? And what if your dictionary doesn't have the capitalized forms of Media and Journalism? Should someone include them as allegorical characters in a play, alongside Chastity, Taxes, Temperance, Dressage, Bias, and Giggle? Bring on the witty dialogue.

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McCain and Palin, the most recent GOP presidential nominees: Not welcome. GW Bush, the most recent GOP president: Seriously not welcome.

Hope Romney enjoys this convention! It will most likely be his last, if precedent holds.

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Thought I help here for the day two agenda:

Bill Ayers 1:00 "Ghost writing victory speeches"

A proposed Toast to Ted Kennedy's Memory

Jimmy Carter 2:00 "The proper role for an Ex-President"

Bill Clinton 2:30 "Handling the affairs of the Oval Office'"

Barry Soetero 3:00 " How to deliver a ghost written victory speech"

Don King 3:30 "How to promote bad ideas"

Mike Tyson 4:00 "Woman's rights a unique perspective"

Don Imus 4:30 "Talk radio isn't just about a pretty face"

Don Henley 5:00 "Tequila Sunrise more evidence of climate change"

THE TRUTH IN BROADCASTING AWARD - Presented to Dan Rather by Michael Moore

Charlie Sheen 6:00 "How to keep stretching your fifteen minutes of fame."

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"This circus freakshow"

That will be the Democrat convention. They're actually going to re-nominate Barack Obama.

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"This circus freakshow"

That would be the whole election cycle from an outsiders point of view. It would seem to be reaching new and higher pitches of screaming each cycle.

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That would be the whole election cycle from an outsiders point of view.

Which is close to 7 Billion People. These days the WHOLE world is watching.

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They're actually going to re-nominate Barack Obama.

With what should be Interesting campaign speeches:

2008: "HOPE and CHANGE"

2012: "GOT ANY CHANGE?"

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"GOT ANY CHANGE?"

Ask Romney - apparently he hasn't paid US taxes for years, hoarding his wealth offshore and in Switzerland.

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Romney's paid millions of dollars in taxes. Sheesh.

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"Romney's paid millions of dollars in taxes. Sheesh."

Apparently he paid no taxes whatsoever for ten years. The source is an republican that heh, worked at the dreaded Bain.

Who's to know what to believe, but since Romney refuses to release them, unlike every other candidate for the past 60 odd years, then I think it's fair to say it must be true.

The tax return issue and the Tea Party will sink him I'm sure.

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Amazing that there's actually conservatives out there who are so willing to back a loser liike Romney.

Actually, on second thoughts, no it's not. :-)

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Apparently he paid no taxes whatsoever for ten years. The source is an republican that heh, worked at the dreaded Bain.

I personally don't believe this claim, at least not all of it, but I think it's very funny that it has been put out there. Good strategy.

If Romney doesn't produce the taxes that show it isn't true, he's in hot water. If Romney produces the taxes, well, I'm sure they can find something that IS true about his taxes, so he's in hot water.

Romney is basically a rich businessman who is no stranger to tax avoidance...I mean that IS the point of hiring a good accountant, isn't it? In business, you should, people say, take an aggressive strategy toward taxes and compromise where you must. Let the lawyers and accountants handle it. The thing is, this doesn't necessarily endear you to the public if you're running for office.

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@Global

Correction!

Therefore, this 2012 presidential election is actually OBAMA vs Karl Rove.

You mean, Romney vs George Soros.

There, I fixed it for you.

bass4funkAug. 10, 2012 - 03:03PM JST

@bass4funk, no correction necessary, Let me make it very clear for you..

This is an ideology fight between Demand Economists vs Supply Economists.

Democrats for Mainstreet Americans ( Small business, Blue Color Workers, Poor, Intellects with HED, Minority,Pro Environment Groups) and FORWARD thinkers

vs

Republicans for Wall Street (Big Business, Wall Street, Military Contractors, NRA,Pro-business-Non Environment Groups, Riches).and BACKWARD thinkers.

Supply side Economy (Wall Street and Riches) under 8 years of Bush (W) HAD created all these mess in US, and we are not going backward.

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SerranoAug. 10, 2012 - 07:41PM JST

Romney's paid millions of dollars in taxes. Sheesh.

Then show us "Beef", apparently he has something to hide. Let us see IT.

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@Serrano "Romney's paid millions"

Yeah, that is evidence of a problem right there. He took in hundreds of millions, therefore if he is even paying a minimal 15% on capital gains he should have paid out tens of millions to the IRS over the years. Why should he pay only a tenth of what other taxpayers are paying? It looks like Willard will want to nominate Willie Nelson as his running mate to show that former tax cheats can be rehabilitated.

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Serrano: "Romney's paid millions..."

Says a Republican supporter. So prove it. Better yet, let him prove it like everyone else in the POTUS chair or running for it does.

Anyway, this will be another circus comedy. Hope there's a lot more infighting.

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Yeah, that is evidence of a problem right there. He took in hundreds of millions, therefore if he is even paying a minimal 15% on capital gains he should have paid out tens of millions to the IRS over the years.

We can guess what the income was, but we can't guess what the deductions were, or what he took a loss on. For that, you need to see the taxes. I don't like Romney, and I won't vote for Romney, but you can't criticize this point until you have the information. Well, yes, you can, but you shouldn't.

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bass4funkAug. 10, 2012 - 03:03PM JST

@Global

Correction!

Therefore, this 2012 presidential election is actually OBAMA vs Karl Rove.

You mean, Romney vs George Soros.

There, I fixed it for you.

@bass4funk, I fix it for you. There are many big differences between the two.

Karl Rove is a extreme right winger tied with Christian Foundamentalists and National Rifle Association of America for GUNS. I just want to remind you why Karl Rove selected Palin for VP for the last Presidential Campaign, bujt it failed. in disaster.

The Koch Brothers of TX financial holdings are much much bigger than George Soros, Warren Buffet both combined. Kochs are not global philanthropists like Soros and Buffet for a good cause in humanity. Their surplus income is solely tied to the right wingers. That's a big difference here. Their main objectives IS to take over US politics. They are much much more focused on their self interests while George Soros and Buffet are not. .

In the past, . Koch Brothers hired Dick Armey ( former R-TX) for America for Prosperity and the FreedomWorks to satisfied their SELFISH objectives. These organizatuions have been very successful in recent years. The Kochs, Karl Rove, and Dick Armey and Dick Chaney have tried to take over Colorado, but we are smarter than them. Romney has lost a primary here. Well, good luck to you. I am just sharing FYI, so that you will be able to come up with your own political decision this year. Are you willing to let them take over YOU?

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pamelotAug. 10, 2012 - 06:50PM JST

They're actually going to re-nominate Barack Obama.

With what should be Interesting campaign speeches:

2008: "HOPE and CHANGE"

2012: "GOT ANY CHANGE?"

@pamelot, you can still use $$, right? $$ was ready to become a worthless paper 4 years ago. It was ready to go off the cliff within a day.

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So who are the Tea Party? Mad Hatter, March Hare and Dormouse? It sounds such a quaint name.

Seriously, who are the Tea Party? I hear them being talked about out on the odd occasion when US politics are mentioned, but who or what are they?

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@Thunderbird2, the TEA PARTY is a party of extreme right wingers (Anti Civil Rights groups, Pro life (not pro choice) and for Guns). They believe in Supply Side Economics. FYI

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"So who are the Tea Party? Mad Hatter, March Hare and Dormouse? It sounds such a quaint name."

It has always sounded a bit camp to me.

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@Thunderbird2, I would like to add a weblink to define the party to be politically correct. Here it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement

Also, I need to add these followers want to abolish a function of United Nation and US Fed Reserve Board. FYI They have successfully convert many undecided independent voters to the TP.

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@Sushi

Amazing that there's actually conservatives out there who are so willing to back a loser liike Romney.

Actually, on second thoughts, no it's not. :-)

Shouldn't you be saying that who is willing to vote and reelect the most radical President in US history. But as the polls are showing, your guy has a dent in his armor and the luster and love fest is wearing off, the people are tired and have had enough of this clown, but then again, looney libtards will do ANYTHING to bring the country down, radical progressives demonizing their own country, pathetic!

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your guy has a dent in his armor and the luster and love fest is wearing off, the people are tired and have had enough of this clown

base4funk, Obama was here yesterday for campaign over 5000 seats were filled within 30 minutes while Rep Romney team came in the campaign bus and only 200 supporters showed up. This is a core "Red" town. Surprise? The middle income Americans do not believe Obama is a clown. He is a leader for change!

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Yeah, that is evidence of a problem right there. He took in hundreds of millions, therefore if he is even paying a minimal 15% on capital gains he should have paid out tens of millions to the IRS over the years.

I believe he did not take in millions but earned them instead and he paid his taxes accordingly.

Please post how he was just given his millions from the people.

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Who's to know what to believe, but since Romney refuses to release them, unlike every other candidate for the past 60 odd years, then I think it's fair to say it must be true.

True? Like this article about the tea party and the blantant lies this reporting put out, Fairness? You have got to be kidding me. This article and the blatant bias is more than enough to show why he should not release any past tax returns.

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Democrats for Mainstreet Americans ( Small business, Blue Color Workers, Poor, Intellects with HED, Minority,Pro Environment Groups) and FORWARD thinkers

Interesting - but subject to examination. For small business - okay, but things like the Obama health care plan will not benefit the small business, and I haven't seen much SB growth in my town in the past few years, rather many have closed down - money to MWBE's (Minority and Women owned Businesses) not exactly flowing. Helping the poor. The problem is that the left consists mostly of the poor, and young people too poor to help the poor. Your idea of helping the poor almost inevitably involves taking money from those who earned it to do so. And when someone on the left becomes wealthy, suddenly it isn't so cool to give up your money (I always laugh about comedian John Lovitz freaking out and going from left to right once he realized they were coming after his funds). Intellects - there we go, the old left wing adage that you're all so much smarter than the rest of us. Truth is academics can afford to be left wing when they live quite literally in ivy covered towers in university communities. Thrust into the real world they tend to suddenly become more conservative. Minorities - the old 'I have friends who are black thing', then you turn out to be as racist as the next. I know a ton of liberal white professors who all live in white only neighborhoods. As far as the environment goes, it does need help - but the left always has us one day from global annihilation and too often wants to waste time and funding on things that hurt more than they help. Too much freak-out and over-exaggeration. Too many hippy weirdos like the Whale Wars turds to give it all a bad name.

Amazing that there's actually conservatives out there who are so willing to back a loser liike Romney.

Interesting that you classify him as a loser. You might strongly dislike his politics, but he has a happy family life, is an educated man, has an estimated worth in the hundreds of millions, and now is the one party's political candidate for US President. If you can honestly classify that as being a 'loser' I'd like to see your resume in comparison. I don't agree with President Obama's platforms and most of his policies to a large degree. I could name a laundry list of things that I don't like about him. But a loser? He's the President. I personally think we need to step away from the current name-calling trend.

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Both conventions promise to be extra BORING, stupid speeches followed by propaganda. I can not vote so what is the point? My guy claims watching paint dry is better "viewing". He claims it matters not how he will vote. The winner in Oklahoma will be Republican. Thus he claims it is all just a complete BORE. It will go something like " I introduce to you the man who saved the world from (insert foe), who cut red tape, sent the cow over the moon.....blah, blah and more blah!

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"True? Like this article about the tea party and the blantant lies this reporting put out, Fairness? You have got to be kidding me. This article and the blatant bias is more than enough to show why he should not release any past tax returns."

Sailwind, "the media is mean" is not a reasonable retort as to why Romney shouldn't be transparent about the tax he has (or more likely hasn't paid.)

Candidates release their returns. It's been that way since Romney's dad set the trend.

What is so damning in Romney's tax returns, Sail?

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TigermothIIAug. 11, 2012 - 02:12AM JST

For small business - okay, but things like the Obama health care plan will not benefit the small business @Tigermouth,

Your CPA should be able to help you how to deal with it. This is new to everyone and it will not kick in until 2014. There are many issues that need to be ironed out. In bigger picture, the other countries in global economy are doing better than US as final a cost of products is cheaper not including expensive health care cost. FYI

http://www.inc.com/news/articles/2010/03/health-care-reform-and-small-business.html

i cannot speak for other liberals, but a speech of JFK converted me to Liberal. . The truth of matter is when you are poor, you have nothing to lose to be liberal. When you are too rich, you have no fear to be liberal.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/primary-resources/jfk-nyliberal/

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I haven't seen much SB growth in my town in the past few years, rather many have closed down - money to MWBE's (Minority and Women owned Businesses) not exactly flowing.

@Tigermouth, I need to add something you may be interested in reading. . We are now moving towards to "NEW ECONOMY" from "OLD ECONOMY" in global environment. The successful transformation depends on higher education.

Everyone or every business that strives on higher education will be the winner. Forward thinkers are willing to take risks for change.

http://www.landpolicy.msu.edu/modules.php?name=Documents&op=viewlive&sp_id=526

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@Global

Karl Rove is a extreme right winger tied with Christian Foundamentalists and National Rifle Association of America for GUNS. I just want to remind you why Karl Rove selected Palin for VP for the last Presidential Campaign, bujt it failed. in disaster.

So you are saying that being a Christian is a bad thing and supporting the NRA is even worse. Therefore, owning a gun makes you un-American, right? As for Palin, she still can rally a crowd, she energizes the base, a strong, powerful, not to mention beautiful woman, she no more less qualified than Biden. Biden is the joke of all jokes. Not to mention, he's worse if you let him off his leash. He spouts all kinds of gaffes again and again. Liberals always make Karl Rove sound like he was Jesus Incarnate, as an advisor and a republican analyst, you guys need to over-inflating the man.

George Soros, now that is an entirely different story: Soros is a major source of money behind a number of radical leftist outfits, like moveon.org, the Center for American Progress, the now defunct, but reorganizing ACORN, Apollo Alliance, National Council of La Raza, Tides Foundation, Huffington Post, Southern Poverty Law Center, Soujourners, People for the American Way, Planned Parenthood, and the National Organization for Women. He is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Bilderbergs. The group in question here is the Secretaries of State Project (SSOP), formed in 2006, supposedly to "to stop Republicans from 'manipulating' election results." this is just a short summary, we could be here for days, If I have to elaborate more about this guy, would put everyone to sleep.

The point here is that your argument and pointing out what the Koch bros. do is basically nothing really different than what Soros is doing for the left. Soros wants to Change America into the largest North American Socialist state, having a one party system (Democratic) and to marginalize or even shut down decent and conservatism itself, weakening our FREE market system further and having our once great society become a free for all, turning it (as it already is a third world nation) So why can't the Koch brothers do the opposite? But I forget, liberals always bitch and moan whenever a conservative wants to use their wealth to uphold traditional and conservative values, but it's ok and morally acceptable if liberals overrun our society and FORCE Americans to be and to force feed us that the only way in life to be and to advance is to be a progressive and to accept liberal-progressive values as the true way of life. I totally reject that and many Americans do as well.

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Obama was here yesterday for campaign over 5000 seats were filled within 30 minutes while Rep Romney team came in the campaign bus and only 200 supporters showed up. This is a core "Red" town. Surprise? The middle income Americans do not believe Obama is a clown. He is a leader for change!

Of course, the Obamanits that sit blindly and would support Obama NO matter what he does, He could rob a bank, the loyalists would follow him off a cliff. Case in point, under Obama the unemployment rate is up 13.6 for Blacks alone and yet, they still come out in droves and support this nut! So you want to spin this fact too? Blacks are financially suffering more under this President than ANY other in US history. Where is the hope and change?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/06/obama-blacks-job-approval_n_1324187.html

HP, not known to be a friendly conservative paper, the most leftist paper out there that heavily supports Obama and even they had to admit this about Obama.

You still have 90 days and a lot can happen. A lot can happen. Look at the 1980 presidential convention. Florida is a Swing state, remember that.

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@Yuri

I gave you "thumbs up" Lol. People like to slam California because of all of the "nuts" there (but the nuts usually weren't born in California but came from other states). Anyway there are many (not all but many) very ignorant, uneducated people in Oklahoma.

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I am not sure if Romney did anything illegal with his taxes, but certainly if the returns are many public, millions of people will be enraged to see that he paid a lower tax rate then they did despite making so much money.

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@Globalwatcher

Good comment:

The Koch Brothers of TX financial holdings are much much bigger than George Soros, Warren Buffet both combined. Kochs are not global philanthropists like Soros and Buffet for a good cause in humanity. Their surplus income is solely tied to the right wingers. That's a big difference here. Their main objectives IS to take over US politics. They are much much more focused on their self interests while George Soros and Buffet are not. .

You have to be aware about the candidates/PACs that they support. There are reasons why they give $millions to these and they won't benefit the average American at all.

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Silly me. Should be : "if the returns are made public."

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George Soros, now that is an entirely different story: Soros is a major source of money behind a number of radical leftist outfits, like moveon.org, the Center for American Progress, the now defunct, but reorganizing ACORN, Apollo Alliance, National Council of La Raza, Tides Foundation, Huffington Post, Southern Poverty Law Center, Soujourners, People for the American Way, Planned Parenthood, and the National Organization for Women. He is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Bilderbergs. The group in question here is the Secretaries of State Project (SSOP), formed in 2006, supposedly to "to stop Republicans from 'manipulating' election results." this is just a short summary, we could be here for days, If I have to elaborate more about this guy, would put everyone to sleep.

@buss4funk, your information here IS incorrect. Please provide the weblink. Thanks.

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@Global

No, it's not, I know you want it to be, but it's not.

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bass4funkAug. 11, 2012 - 10:24AM JST

@Global

No, it's not, I know you want it to be, but it's not.

Well, I tell you this is INCORRECT. I cannot reveal to you why I know this is incorrect.

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you can still use $$, right? $$ was ready to become a worthless paper 4 years ago. It was ready to go off the cliff within a day.

As opposed to now, where a great number of people don't use dollars, they use govt. issued, tax payer funded food stamps instead.

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The Occupy WS movement created and saved jobs.Police, parameds, cleaning crews, fumigation and things like that. Something the teabaggers can't brag about.

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@Global

Sorry buddy, but it is 100% a fact a truth. even if you disapprove. I know you think the man is a God's send, but far, far from the truth. I know and don't dispute what and who the Koch brothers are and they have the right to do as they want, in spending their money to uphold traditional values in America, but Soros on the other hand, this Hungarian demon-spawn regardless of what you think is a man that wants to radically change our country in a way that would make our founding fathers roll over in their graves.

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@bass

So the Kochs have" the right to do as they want", but Soros doesn't? Funny, that. (And "demon-spawn" is getting a little bit childish, no?).

And since when has the abolition of public education (a declared aim of the Kochs) been a "traditional value" in America? I could go on, but I'd just depress myself....

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I changed my "affiliation" recently during my voter registration from republican back to independant. I really would like to see full movement for an Independent/moderate party that is neither overly conservative nore overly liberal.

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W.C. Fields said a sucker is born every minute. These tea partiers got PLAYED! The funny thing, I'll bet there are still some of them that are donating to Sarah Palin with the idea she'll run. I used to think Palin was stupid but the way she fleeced those "morans" of the tea party, she's pretty shrewd. Evil, but shrewd.

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Good Job, Media for once again proving you can't be trusted in your reporting.

GAWD DARN CHEVY VOLT!

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The only contribution the Tea Party has given to US was our downgraded credit.

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The right wing media are desperate to keep the stupid Tea Party in the news because they know that in terms of actual political influence and appeal and inclusiveness Occupy WS is the greatest force for change in America today.

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@luca

@bass

So the Kochs have" the right to do as they want", but Soros doesn't? Funny, that. (And "demon-spawn" is getting a little bit childish, no?).

Of course, Soros has the right to say and do as he wants, yes, I said, Demon-spawn, you liberals have also said childish statements (all the time) about Romney and Conservstives, but I too, digress.

And since when has the abolition of public education (a declared aim of the Kochs) been a "traditional value" in America? I could go on, but I'd just depress myself....

The public education in the US is and has become a disgrace, too many of our kids being endoctrinated by liberal teachers, teaching one-sided, liberal politics, there was a time when teachers didn't cross that line of ideology, but now...

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@Hope

The right wing media are desperate to keep the stupid Tea Party in the news because they know that in terms of actual political influence and appeal and inclusiveness Occupy WS is the greatest force for change in America today.

Lol Right wing media??? Where? Does that even exist?

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bass for funk,

Those darn liberal teachers are gunna GETCHA!!!

Better check under your bed, RIGHT NOW! You don't know where they can be hiding, those fascist Un-Amurican indoctrination artists.

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Those darn liberal teachers are gunna GETCHA!!!

Better check under your bed, RIGHT NOW! You don't know where they can be hiding, those fascist Un-Amurican indoctrination artists.

Well, at least you agree with me, it's like the plague, glad you understand.

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@bass4funk

Right wing media...try Fox News. Actually it depends on the issue. The media is very conservative when it comes to pro-corporate bias, but perhaps liberal on abortion.

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sailwind,

"From Wiki" blah blah blah."

Thanks. I laughed my ass off. Yeah, there's a HUGE media conspiracy and it's all documented on Wikipedia, the web's number one source for truth and accuracy.

Listen, the fact is, Sarah Palin is stupid and you don't like that the press let her hang herself with her stupidity. But it's been 4 years, let it go or get help.

You are so funny. "IT'S A MEDIA CONSPIRACY...unless I agree with it. Then the media is telling the truth."

Hilarious.

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