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Republicans divided ahead of big Trump speech
By Michelle Conlin and Amy Tennery CLEVELAND©2025 GPlusMedia Inc.
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kcjapan
When Trump gives his "I Have A Dream" speech everything in America will be solved. That's the kind of Messiah Trump is. Perfect and Infallible.
CrazyJoe
If Republicans can't unify at their own convention, how on earth can we expect them to lead the country effectively?
bass4funk
Go Trump!
MarkG
Misleading headline again from the MSM anti-Trump agenda. The GOP is unified more today than it was last week. And will further unify tomorrow.
Cruz is gambling and Trump allowed him a chance to speak at the convention. Both parties have reasons for their actions we'll never know. As for Cruz time will tell if he committed political suicide.
Douglas Macarthy
Go Trump,,,,
badsey3
Lying Ted Cruz and his Goldman Sachs wife are done. If Glas Stegall is reinstated Goldman Sachs may be done also.
drlucifer
Someone who cannot unite his own party is expected to unite the whole country Well there are always the dumb, the dumber and the dumbest.
MarkG
Cruz didn't disavow Trump. He did say clearly and strongly "vote your conscience and vote for the candidate you trust" so, he it either says go third party or Trump. He definitely did not support Hillary in any way with the "candidate you trust" caveat. Clintons lie to the public for personal gain. Ted would not trust Hillay.
bass4funk
So, yeah. If any of our little conservative friends think otherwise, they would have taken me up on my bet.
Sure, a gentlemen's bet. With everything that is going on in the wold and at home with jobs, I believe Hillary is going to have a very hard time, especially looking at her untrustworthy numbers, never mind her overall negatives and the fact that she has a difficult time attacking White males.
That's stupid. Even I wouldn't call for you libs leaving here, where would the fun be in that. One would want that if they felt they were being bombarded with facts and just have no comeback or spine to deal with it. I say, a gentlemen's bet, and an apology for being ignorantly wrong about the truth.
Translation: we don't value other peoples opinions.
I do as well, with confidence, but do I have confidence that the Dems will play fair and square, Not really if history is any indicator.
Dems have a liar and a crook that's unpopular and one, that the people cannot trust.
nostromo
You are right... but do you really think Trump has the ability to see beyond his own narcissistic, self centred rhetoric to be a leader and a statesman? All the things that the US claims to aspire to as the apparent leader of western liberal democracies? I dont think so.He appeals to what was, not what is and can be...
PTownsend
It's clear that most partisan extremists DON'T value other's opinions, hence all the over-generalizations of 'libs this' and 'progressives that', taking a point made by someone disagreed with and distorting it to an extreme. And the best defense partisan extremists seem to have is a "whatabout".
Voicing an opinion is one thing, but intentionally sliming the truth and fabricating narratives in support of an opinion suggests the poster doesn't have faith in what was said. Can you believe some posters claim that the US Democratic Party was responsible for slavery? Or that some posters use a Rick James (or maybe Rick Ross) quote and attribute it to Obama? Or make statements like 'the media is 98% (sometimes 97%) liberal, they fabricate statistics to make their case?
Once again, if the best response is 'I know you are but what am I' or 'whatabout' then I have to believe you're just writing to rabble rabble and get attention.
Shrapnel
Well, why should we?
The population of Russia is 144 million, and Europe's Population is 742 million, about FIVE TIMES LARGER than Russia. Europe has TWICE the population of the US. The population of Germany and France together is equal to that of Russia. The GDP of Russia is $2.1 Trln, and Europe's GDP is $16.2 Trln, about EIGHT TIMES LARGER than Russia.
Yet Europe cannot defend itself against a third world country like Russia???
Well, why should they, if we are willing to foot the bill, and put our lives at risk instead of theirs.The American tax payers have been subsidizing the European nations defense through NATO since 1945, as the result, Europeans have been spending their taxes on a generous welfare state.
bass4funk
We already got conned by Hillary, the FBI and the justice system, doesn't get worse.
So what are Hillary's detailed policies?
What hate talk? If anything, every time I open up a news paper, I hear vile, nasty vitriol towards Trump, Melania and anything conservative. What do liberals want? Should we have a slogan, America is not great, we should be like everyone else? Don't be proud, follow the liberal example of excepting mediocracy?
If you want to say that Trump is a polarizing character, you have a valid point, does Trump say sometimes outlandish things, sure does. But when you think about the alternative, it's not that hard to make the decision to vote for Trump.
Proof please.
What does Ailes alleged charges have to do with anything???
samwatters
A Trump presidency is a real possibility. Michael Moore said on Bill Maher's show that he thinks Trump will win. The Republican party may be divided but the people aren't; they want a non-Washington person and we know who that person is!
bass4funk
Gee, what is Moore doing these days? He's still around? It's been years since he's been seen or heard.It's clear that most partisan extremists DON'T value other's opinions, hence all the over-generalizations of 'libs this' and 'progressives that', taking a point made by someone disagreed with and distorting it to an extreme. And the best defense partisan extremists seem to have is a "whatabout".
But they were. What did Lincoln fight for? Who started the KKK?
As a person that works in the media, I can give you a mountain list of almost EVERY Liberal media outlet and the list is longer than the Titanic and you compare that to the conservative outlets that are out there. It's a drop in the ocean.
Translation: We liberals don't wish to hear the truth thrown back at us. Please be so kind and keep the focus on us and stop telling about our own faults.
SugarFreeGummyBears
Come November all these intelligent Muricans will vote Trump to be the next president so he can finally do what he promised to do, "figure out what the hell is going on."
Isn't that wonderful?
MarkG
Tell us this you anti-Trumpers....
Facts only, why are you against Trump? Campaign rhetoric not applicable, facts only please. We all know Trump has said many controversial comments. Back them up with facts otherwise the comments were campaign rhetoric only.
SuperLib
Are you on drugs?
Laguna
Trump embodies simultaneously Lucy and Charlie Brown: Given chance time and again, he snatches his own ball away - defeat from the jaws of victory. The RNC conference was one long hate-fest, an embarrassment not just to the party but to the country which will leave a very bad impression for years, and the fault for this travesty is entirely on Trump and his "team." Frankly, it doesn't matter what he says tonight - and, oh the irony: unity is the theme! - the damage is done. A-- that is left is to spend the next few months not campaigning against Hillary but conducting a forensic analysis of just how atrocious all of this has been and why.
plasticmonkey
You can check them out here. Lots of detail on her website.
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/
And you can check out Trump's ideas here. Just a bunch of videos of Donald spewing platitudes like "We're gonna grow our economy."
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/issues
PTownsend
Once again: I suggest you open a history book. Slaves were brought to the Americas and what became the United States by the British, French, Spanish and Dutch. I suggest you open a history book and look at the parties of the presidents who presided during slavery. I suggest you open a history book and try to understand that political parties evolve over time.
I think you'll find, if you're willing to open the books and your mind, that the Republican Party of Abraham Lincoln was very different from its current iteration. But I know partisan extremists, those living and breathing deeply in their own gunsmoke clouded little rooms have total disregard for reality.
I know: whatabout......, which means you don't have any faith in your own messages. I can't say that I blame you: they're pretty ridiculous.
MarkG
To answer your question Super, no.
Do you actally think the party is divided? LA times poll has Trump 44% ~ Hillary 44%. If the GOP is divided lookout Hillary, if it comes together your loss will be a landslide!
Jimizo
"Facts only, why are you against Trump? Campaign rhetoric not applicable, facts only please. We all know Trump has said many controversial comments. Back them up with facts otherwise the comments were campaign rhetoric only."
Ok let's try to leave aside the inflammatory rhetoric although I don't see how that's possible.
Some people liken a campaign to a job interview. It's a good analogy but given the ridiculous length of a US presidential campaign it isn't a perfect one - you can't really expect a flawless performance. That said, what would you think of an interviewee who mocked the disability of one of the interviewers on the panel? I'd think that person was a low-life piece of crap. What kind of person would do that? If I was in a bar drinking with a disabled person and a drunk was making fun of that person's disability, I'd go over and chin him. That Trump moment spoke volumes about who this man is. How the hell did his campaign survive after that?
As you imply, actions speak louder than words.
A question for you. What would you do if someone mocked your disabled friend, family member, spouse or child? Would you just dismiss it as being refreshingly non-PC?
nadaku
Love it when people mention polls to show how "well" Trump is doing, but of course only those polls that portrays his popularity equal to or greater than Hillary (LA Times and Rasmussen).
Of course conveniently not mentioning all other polls showing Hillary ahead (Reuters, Economist, CNN, ABC, NBC, USAtoday, etc.). Classic!
Lizz
Reuters, Economist, CNN, ABC, NBC, USAtoday, etc.
But her numbers are down across the board. The latest Reuters poll I believe only had Hillary up by 3, down from 13 a few weeks ago. Looking at the internals it is usually pretty clear how the biased figures are gotten.
nadaku
I know the numbers are down. And they will go up again, and then down again. And this will repeat for the next 4 months. That is how polling works - i.e. I am not one who thinks polling is overly accurate. But, if you must mention it, I think it is only fair to take the average....
SuperLib
I honestly believe Republicans think they'll lose if Hillary wins, so let's make everyone lose by electing Trump. If they can't win, just blow it up. They did it to Congress and the courts, and it looks like the Presidency is next.
MarkG
Knock~em out Jimizo! Just like those who call Trump supporters bigots. They are not and I like to defend them. As for me, call me whatever you like. I know what I am. I know what I do for others. Bigot, not hardly.
And to your point, this is not that level of fight. I am not excusing Trumps tactics but I do applaud the acheivment on a shoestring budget. He still spent pennies to opponents dollars. Literally! This was his method. Dominate the media to propel himself. Hillary and Sanders have done similar.
Personally, I would disallow childish attacks. I would not permit mud slinging (That would disqualify the Dems). And I would limit campaign funds. To me campaign dollars could be used elsewhere. Not mudslinging attacks hourly. For a million dollars a research hospital can hire a top research doctor with support for a year.
Haaa Nemui
@MarkG - this line from the article tells me it's not misleading at all.
kazetsukai
Amazing.... the issue here is with Cruz... the difference between election of a confirmed nominee for the betterment of the country vs personal ideological and personality issues.
The context, the situation, the circumstances and the environment is not personal... it is national and international...
The time and purpose of the convention is to find a common ground to prepare a forum and format for a simple party platform to proceed into the election and not to spout off one' personal bias after the process of selection is done...
It is indeed a sad state of affairs within the USA and especially the GOP with politicians like Cruz.
Those that oppose Trump can always work with Trump, then challenge him to listen to, argue, debate, negotiate, and help to change Trump's thoughts and ways, should it be that important to do so. That is the democratic process set up in the election process.
If anything the true character of politicians such as Cruz and those that back him has been exposed. In that sense of "radicalism", Trump is not like Sanders as the media like to say, but Cruz is like Sanders, except that unlike Sanders, Cruz represents the wealthy and powerful.
This election is in deed a political revolution and a movement in the USA as reflected by all parties. It is a "wakening" of the "rational" vs the "ideological".
kcjapan
Listening to Tom Barrack is like listening to a Trump success audio tape. One loser endorsing another loser. Trump isn't a problem solver, he's the Tom Barrack iteration of a dummy pulpit of stupid comments. GOP-tea idiocy.
Lizz
I know the numbers are down. And they will go up again, and then down again. And this will repeat for the next 4 months.
I am skeptical the polls will go significantly in Clinton's direction in the upcoming months without being artificially weighted towards Democrats unless Trump completely snatches defeat from the jaws of victory. Or unless Hillary starts running a more accessible campaign because the more she makes herself seen and heard the lower her numbers get.
MarkG
Hold on to your seats folks.....Ivanka will hit a homer and D.Trump will hit a grand slam any moment now.
"You can't fake children!"
SenseNotSoCommon
You've nailed it there. In parallel with the recent, tired of experts Brexit campaign:
http://watson.brown.edu/news/explore/2016/FantasyofTrump
WC626's grandfather helped liberate the French from the results of similar fantasy and escapism.
Are our kids doomed to do the same (with treasure if not blood) for the great people of America?
kcjapan
Donald J. Trump is a racist. Ask David Duke.
Laguna
Polls don't bear that out, Kaze. For the first time, the GOP ticket lags behind the Dems among white males with at least a bachelor-level education (Romney won this demographic by several points; Hillary leads by a similar amount). This is a "back to the future" campaign; even Trump's hastily-and-opportunistically-adopted "law and order" slogan rips from Nixon '68.
Fear is what drives Trump supporters: Fear of competition in an inevitably changing world in terms of economics, race, and society. Educated people welcome this future; less educated fear it. Trump pretends that with his America-first, wall-building, alliance-shunning, mercantilist demagoguery that he can return middle America to a time unique in location and history - the 1950s (which wasn't as great as remembered, particularly if one were not white), but that is of course a pipe dream.
America as a whole will reject Trump's revanchism, and for good reason: It is not in the American DNA to shrink from the future.
kcjapan
An endorsement from one's daughter is about as impressive as a child hoping for Santa Clause. Who really cares if Trump's child thinks Trump is a really cool guy?
Obvious;y. Trump's kid is happy to send women to prison if they have an abotion Trump plans to outlaw.
kazetsukai
Now that the division is obvious and the divide is basically "rational vs ideological" among the voters, we must find what is dividing the GOP.
From all indications, I can only think of the political dive as between the existing "entrenched wealthy and powerful" (status quo) vs those "with the American Dream" (opportunity).
Think about that...
If that is the case... the rational and the idealistic can move toward the American Dream (opportunity) but impossible to move toward the wealthy and the powerful without becoming subservient. That means only a portion of the idealistic that want subservience, the easy way out, would be on that path.
Interesting thought if I may say so myself...
Leila26
TRUMP is speaking and his family is awesome. The statistics on the deaths of policemen and other deaths he is reciting. Illegals roaming with no regard to public safety. Very factual speech. He meets with the families of the victims of illegals. Household incomes are down. Trade deficit 800 BILLION dollars. 43 MILLION on food stamps (or more)
bass4funk
Go Trump! Speech was very good. Calm, cool and collected and hit on every point. Finally someone that wants to put America and its people first.
FizzBit
Go Trump!
Send the Wall Street warmonger back to Little Rock where she and her husband started their criminal empire.
Wakarimasen
Ted Cruz is a servile tool. Big D may even go all the way as Hilary is so awful
Texas A&M Aggie
An outstanding address by Mr. Trump. He hit all the points that registered independent voters like myself wanted to hear from a candidate for president. Mrs. Bill Clinton will be sent home to bake applesauce cookies for her grandchildren in November. . . .
MrBum
kazetsukai,
You got the first group right. But if the second group was really for the true "American Dream" (i.e., working hard to make something of yourself from nothing) they wouldn't hate immigrants so much. Immigrants are living the American Dream more than anyone else.
You only have to look at the demographics to see the second group consists predominantly of older white men that aren't quite as "rational" as the first group and who long for the days where simply being white and male gave you better access to "opportunity." You could say that's "idealistic" but they've got pretty crappy ideals.
Pinning your hopes of "making America great again" on a narcissistic demagogue is as subservient as it gets.
Uhh sure. Knock yourself out...
bass4funk
They aren't rational? By who's determination? I think liberals are just afraid that now they have to get job, now they have to contribute to society other than being judgmental towards other people and trying to use fear and intimidation that Whites are the problem when it's not White people, it is political correctness that is smothering the nation. We are all in this together and it's enough that liberals constantly use the race card to lock in fear and to scare people and the Democrats can't stand it.
This is the problem with liberals, it's a bad thing to say, "making America great again." mediocracy is how we as a nation should be where government takes all of our money and where the dream of self-reliance and independence is frowned upon.
Jimizo
"Knock~em out Jimizo! Just like those who call Trump supporters bigots. They are not and I like to defend them. As for me, call me whatever you like. I know what I am. I know what I do for others. Bigot, not hardly."
So, you avoided my hypothetical question about someone mocking your disabled child. I suppose you had no choice. It's filthy and not acceptable from anyone, let alone a potential leader of the US. I'd call anyone who did this low-life trash. If I'd have come home from school after a call saying I'd been in trouble for mocking the disability of a disabled classmate, I dread to think what would have happened. It's unacceptable for a child, let alone a 'statesman'.
I've never called all Trump supporters bigots but bigots do tend to swarm around what he excretes. The KKK and the leader of the bigoted right in France are two who had their fancies tickled by what Trump says. There must be a reason for this. Do you have any idea what it is?
SenseNotSoCommon
Amazing how Trump will rebuild America's infrastructure while cutting taxes, and boost the military in tandem with an isolationist approach reminiscent of pre-9/11 Dubya.
He included bricklayers in his speech, but forgot to mention his pet megaproject funded by his southern neighbour, that would provide work to legions of bricklayers.
That aside, was there anything Trump didn't promise?
MarkG
Wasteful spending vrs efficient spending. Enlarge the workforce. Reduce entitlement recipients. Both previous points done with bringing jobs back home.
Yes, he did lay a ton on the plate. If he can deliver 10% of it is a win. More than 25% is a decisive victory. If a second term with his drive of 2016 the sky is the limit.
You need to remember he is not a polotician kicking the can down the road. His business forces him to ' GET THE JOB DONE'. No excuses, no BS, no foolin, get it done!
Leila26
45 million on food stamps. And inner cities with thousands who have HIV/AIDS who are NOT WORKING. The mayors did studies to find out why there was not enough revenue coming from their inner core. They are young people not working. I would guess those with AIDS are not. IN South Africa, 6.3 million people have HIV. 200,000 have died. But Africa is a terrible thing for the world as they have an average family size of 7 children. It is predicted the earth's population will grow by 2 million by 2050. And the word's aquifers are running out of water. California's aquifer has one of the world's great aquifers and it is running dry. Even north of there the states are already worrying because their ground water is running lower due to too much population.
bass4funk
He said it, it's over and we should move on. Dems forgave Bill Clinton. Surely, we can do the same for Trump.
And on Hillary, you have a lot of Anti-White supporters that flock to her and that promise violence at Trump rallies or if becomes president, that's equally as scary.
Law and order.
@sense
Wait until Hillary gets up and tries to promise the world. The difference is, she has a proven record as a Senator for not doing anything, she didn't repair NYC crumbling infrastructure, she didn't take care of her own state. We know her record as Secretary of state of state and we don't have to revisit it. Liberals only think about taxation and and more taxation instead of cutting taxes, cutting corporate taxes and putting people back to work again. At least Trump has a record of providing jobs, Hillary has a record, but it's dark, deceptive and devious, but whatever she has done, it has fattened up her pockets.
Leila26
I would never want my husband to run for office though his father was a political and he has written laws himself. So, I applaud Trump for wanting to run! His whole family seems dedicated and they are very beautiful and will help energize and attract young people.
MarkG
Yes, get them working Leila! Off the food stamps and paying taxes towards the building of the infrastructure. Not to mention working toward a goal reduces the thug mentality.
Don't mention potable water. That's not an issue, its global warming or climate chang or something they call it of which humans are in full control. Fresh water is a serious issue and only growing more and more dire as we ignore it.
MrBum
Supporting giant multi-million dollar border walls to block workers that the current economy relies on is pretty itrational for one.
I never ever said all white people are a problem. Just the ones that think the country belongs to them.
Is it wrong for minorities to play the race card when it's used so often against them? Saying that most Mexican immigrants are criminals and rapists, saying that an American judge is unfit because of his Mexican heritage, those aren't examples of playing the race card?
Liberals think America is already pretty great, but want to continue to make it better through progress. Going back to the past where we can all agree that racism and social problems were much worse seems like... well going backwards. If liberals are the ones that settle for mediocrity, why is it that we choose intellectuals and "elites" as our leaders? Take look at your last conservative president and look at the clown show you guys are running this year.
The problem with conservatives and Trump fans in particular is that they don't even have the simple facts straight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZLGAl0tTt8
Leila26
Yes, Mark - I worked for state Medicaid and saw the screens for people living off 5 and 6 programs. I threw up my hands and said that the state is giving the people to be idle! It's not good for them, because they lose any skills they might have had and are not learning any new skills! It's illogical! Only people who want them OUT of the competition would do that! And that is the Democrats!
Laguna
What an absolutely frightening speech, an ugly way to end an historically ugly convention. Trump clearly is not pivoting towards the center; he's dashing towards the far-right. His message is clearly that America's choice is only him or the abyss, and if the entire fabric of the nation must be rendered, so be it.
Donald Trump: Make America Fear Again.
Sad. Fortunately, the majority of Americans actually feel pretty good about how things are going, and this fear mongering will very much turn them against him. I look forward to the next round of polls.
Wc626
Not united? Cut off Kasich, who only won one state (his own). Marco Rubio already bowed down, so did carson. What is Carly Fiorina doing? Washing her tights? As far as Lyin' Ted, he can go pound sand.
The Republicans must be united. Only then will they bring in very much needed Law and Order.
Leila26
HA HA HA HA .....even college towns have hundreds of homeless. It is quite ironic that the Democrats claim to love the poor, so the poor are finding the liberals in college towns and making them miserable. Near us is a town of 33,000 - a very nice private college and 900 HOMELESS! The homeless hang out near the students and the homeless there and in our largest city are very dangerous and causing all kinds of problems. Just like at Woodstock where there were 10,000 people for every porta potty. The grounds of the festival were DISGUSTING and there was also no food. But you don't hear about the PROBLEMS, do you? And in Hawaii, they also have horrible problems with homelessness and it is a Democrat state. Democrats do not want their utopian societies to have problems, but do a SEARCH - HOMELESSNESS in PORTLAND, OR or HOMELESSNESS in HAWAII. Both are Democrat strongholds.
nath
[shakes head sadly]
That such people are catered to, who have no good qualities, and who seek to see others harmed - and at others' expense.
Republicans and their voters want to live in the world described in the film "Brazil." But with extra torture and w/o the jokes.
Leila26
LIBERALS are DANGEROUS just as they were at Woodstock. No planning at all. NO FOOD, NO BATHROOMS FOR 500,000 people, NO Healthcare, NOTHING! And the only way people could stand it was to be completely DRUGGED!
TRUMP - 2016!
Wc626
The people of woodstock were so baked & fried, that they too thought "borders" and enforcing laws were stupid concepts. The believed in love, tolerance and open borders.
The thugs, illegal immigrants and poor people will get a taste of their own medicine when the islamic refugees arrive in their communities.
MarkG
That'll be next week in the laid back psychedelic LSD trips in Philadelphia. Nothing said constructively, no problems to fix other than discuss eliminating Hillary's enemy the GOP. And the praise for a should be convict. At the very least proven liar!
bass4funk
Trump was excellent, on the mark and very happy that he put everyone on notice. Polls coming in, most of his speeches were received very well. 56% of voters that were undecided in the poll taken said, they would vote for him and the speech overall was about 72%
MarkG
His opponent needs to match the bar Bass.....impossible!
Leila26
About half the time the ability to give someone a vote - doesn't work. My, my this website needs some kind of techy that is able to do his job! Anyway, I'm TRYING to give Bass and MarkG up votes!
MrBum
Name a few. Hell, just name one and tell me if they're worth emulating.
Let them leave. California is doing fine without them. Sixth largest economy in the world.
Nice attempt at smearing. Or maybe you just don't know that Dixiecrats were their own group during the Jim Crow era... You work in journalism, right?
Well the private prisons supported by the GOP that profit from maximum occupancy keep a disproportionate number of blacks locked up, mostly for drug related crimes.
Obama brought unemployment down to 5-6%, cut the deficit in half, and peacefully prevented Iran from nuclear armament. If you watched my Youtube link, even Trump fans think that's impressive... as long as you don't tell them it was Obama who did it.
I thought he was a fear mongerer. Which is it?
I don't mind calling it out, but I can understand why Obama as the President hesitates to do so, namely avoiding a real global Jihad against all Muslims. It doesn't matter either way since even the CIA says that calling it would do nothing to help the problem.
They feared America's military. I'm almost certain they didn't respect him. How could they?
First off, they might not like him but I doubt they think he's a joke. Second, you respect the opinions of the likes of Putin, Un, and Castro? The first two are tyrants. I'd be scared if they loved Obama... like they do Trump. And Merkal brushed Bush's hands off her shoulders once too.
So they choose draft-dodging Trump? That makes sense.
Oh, the irony...
Jimizo
"That'll be next week in the laid back psychedelic LSD trips in Philadelphia. Nothing said constructively, no problems to fix other than discuss eliminating Hillary's enemy the GOP."
I'm assuming you think this convention was a well-thought out exercise in outlining policy and fixing problems rather than demonizing your enemy.
Is that your view? Thinking about this convention in its entirity, what percentage of time would you say was spent on those three areas?
cleo
While you're trying to do that more people are giving them well-earned down votes, effectively cancelling out your vote.
Moderator
Readers, please do not reply to other posts sentence by sentence. A general reply will suffice.
Wc626
Temp ban on travel from shady Islamic countries & turn away the the Trojan Horses from Syria / Afghanistan. Border control, turn away masses of future illegal immigrants. Problem solved.
Demonize your enemy. Darn right. But first identify them properly: Radical Islam. Label cop killers as domestic terrorists. Make misdemeanor arrests on BLM who chant or praise killing police officers.
If an on-duty cop openly said to the public, "let's go kill some crips and bloods tonight" he would be fired. People would be marching city hall like angry ants.
MrBum
Point taken.
@Leila26
What's with the fixation on Woodstock? And AIDS? It's kind of weird. If you want to look at the flip side and conservatives of that era though, you have Nixon, one of the most corrupt administrations in history...
And about the homeless in Hawaii, most are from other states because let's face it, if you're going to be homeless, there's no better place than Hawaii. I know because I'm from there. How are Democrats to blame for that, and what would Republicans do differently about the problem? Ban all incoming mainlanders? Round up and deport?
bass4funk
Israel, Mexico from their side. That's two.
As far as California is concerned, let them leave? They are and pretty soon California with the rich Silicon elites, Hollywood creeps that's the only thing that will keep them flowing. The problem with liberals is that they never tell the entire truth. This is something that virtually every Californian knows, but liberals in the state want to paint a rosy picture and it's anything but....
http://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2016/07/14/is_california_really_the_6th_largest_economy_in_the_world_102263.html
The Dixiecrats were Democrats, so now you guys want to change history? Since Obama has been president, he has brought the unemployment down, but Blacks and other minorities are not feeling the love, Blacks are still at the bottom of the economic ladder and the this president has never addressed the issues of the high incarceration rate, the Black on Black crime and 70% of the fatherless homes, something that Trump touched on today, something that Obama has tried to avoid or at least rarely talked about. They need jobs and there would be less Black men in prison if they could have a shot at the American dream if we could lesson the entitlement culture that is the poison in these minority communities and offer better job training, job placement and get them to understand, the only way you can make it in life is through hard work and self-reliance. From jobs to terrorism, Obama has always taken a backseat approach and Trump hit it dead center and kudos to him. Calling out radical Jihadism helps to at least acknowledge there is a problem and that you are serious in wanting to take action. Obama doesn't seem to have a sense of urgency at all and the people realize that. Even liberal Van Jones couldn't defend that and he's pretty good usually. And as for Bush, the enemies did fear him, because he seemed stedfast and they knew he wasn't playing games. Putin, NK, China, none of these countries would be doing these outrageous violations were he the president. I understand, liberals care about wanting a nice guy, most of us want a dependable and an affective leader. Obama is a joke of all jokes. Castro, the Iranians, China, none of these leaders respect this guy. What was the recent report with Iran, now it looks like they are going back on their word, as if that wasn't expected. Obama could care less what happens to this country, he's out of here (thankfully) in 6 months and he's just taking it easy, cruising and waiting out the clock. And that's not going to happen with Trump. He wants to stay out of all wars, if possible, but he wants a beefed up and strong America and good on him, couldn't agree more. As for draft dodging, remember: Clinton was also a draft dodger (among other things....) From the look of the latest polls so far, it seems overall, it was a very well received speech, but we really won't know for a few days how it was generally perceived. But from the looks of it, quite well.
MrBum
Israel who has failed to make peace with their neighbor since its inception, and still doesn't prevent terrorist attacks within its giant wall is who you want to emulate? It's not all Israels fault, but they're hardly the shining example of peaceful relations. Mexico doesn't have a wall. At least not across the entire border. Isn't that why Trump wants to build one? Anymore examples? North Korea perhaps? Now there's a country we could learn a lot from.
Despite its problems, California is still doing better than most other conservative-run states.
The Dixiecrats were Democrats…Duh... It's in the name. I'm not changing history, I'm looking at it honestly. Are you denying that most of the "Jim Crow" racist faction in the South didn't eventually turn Republican? It's dishonest (or uneducated?) to imply that Democrats today have any connection to the Jim Crow Dixiecrats like you did.
The rest of your response is pretty much along the same lines, so I'm not going to bother.
heynong
Trump accused Cruz Daddy was the associate of the killer of President John F Kennedy. He insulted Cruz wife physical appearance. He is so low in morale and arrogant. Trump is 70 and Cruz is only 45. Unlikely Trump will unlikely survive for 2020 because of his confused mental state.
People Republic of California want to nominate Cruz for next President of USA even Trump has won 2016 election. Is there possibility of President change whilst he is still in the office? Trump will be 74 in 2020. He will be old, frail and fading the memory. He is not Ronald Reagan who was fit as bull fighter.
bass4funk
Maybe their neighbors should try not use terror and bombs then maybe they could start a peace process.
Israel has a wall and it works and if it works for them, we can do it in the states as well, but we all know in doing so would scare liberals to death. As far as California is concerned and as to why there is a huge Exodus of people wanting to leave the state, here are the reasons, not to mention many are seeking refuge in States like Texas, standard of living is great, No state taxes, not over flooded with everyone trying to be PC consistently. The point wasn't that the Dixiecrats morphed into Republican for a time, and the DNC morphed into creating a new form of racism by giving out massive entitlements and keep them wanting and needing more',point was, "who started it?" But you can see the way
Wc626
The democrats are saying Trump's speech was dark and eerie. It was reality. . . Perhaps they should stop packing their bongs and wake up. They think they're riding on Disneyland's - Its a Small World.
These ate dark times. How many killed during or since Ramadan?? Nice, Orlando, Bahgdad, Instanbul, Bangladesh etc.
Look at how US Police have been ambushed. Trumps speech and tone were spot on. Why do the (D) want to sugar coat everything?? Sheesh. . . and some posters say that "I" am living in some Bubble-
yabits
You have ignored the major developments in civil rights and how the two major parties completely shifted. You neglected to mention after WWII how a Democratic president gave the order to fully integrate the armed forces -- marking the first time in American history when a white person could fall under the authority of a black person. You ignored the fact that while racist whites kept electing Dixiecrat leaders as governors of southern states -- that those same southern states voted for Barry Goldwater in 1964 BECAUSE of his opposition to civil rights.
You neglected the "southern strategy" of the Republicans to win over more white supremacists to the party. And that KKK Grand Wizard, David Duke, ran for and won elected office in "red" Louisiana as a Republican. Note also the solid, vocal support Duke has had for Donald Trump. Who is changing history?
In the USA, people of ALL colors receive entitlements. Just how is that a "new form of racism?" Poverty does not discriminate by race.
bass4funk
I'm aware of that, but that was NOT the point. The point was, it was the Democratic party that fed and upheld the institution of slavery all the way up to the civil rights era. That was the point, nothing more, how it morphed is irrelevant.
That didn't happen until after the war and even then, it took a very long time to make that transition and was constantly met with challenges and opposition and yes, I knew that about Barry Goldwater and also knew that LBJ was an outright racist and thought Blacks were the embodiment of scum and thought of ways to control Blacks and one way was to increase welfare for poor Blacks, provide them with government assistance and keep them as long as they can on welfare destroying the Black family and to this day, we can still see the affects of his institutionalized racism.
Duke was first and foremost a Democrat originally and then later became a Republican when the GOP for that time period was a party for the rich and affluent and fiscally and socially and racially conservative, but that also has changed, now the Democrats are the party of the elite and the so called educated or.....better put, know it all. Now the GOP has transformed itself to be the party for the Middle class and working class, they have shaken off their racist past which even in those days wasn't THAT bad. Now the party embraces all nationalities, race and gays. No one cares in the GOP, but libs will try to make it and give the impression that the GOP are blood-thirsty knuckle dragging troglodyte.
Blacks are the biggest recipient of those entitlements of them and how are they fairing financially voting for Democrats over the last 50 years? Don't sugarcoat it.
toshiko
Hiis daughter did excel.lent spec. Then Trump spoke with his usual. Talks and destroyed her effort to dxplIn how nice he is.
plasticmonkey
"Nobody knows the system better than me. Which is why I alone can fix it."
Egotism is a bar to be matched?