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Little by little Republicans need to undermine Obama's agenda. A sitting president is never truly a lame duck. But since Obama wants to make law without Congress, there is no reason why Congress should cooperate with him. Just pass bill after bill and send them up for Obama's automatic vetoes. He will be the obstructionist. If the Supreme Court can read the words in the Obamacare law (which Democrats passed without reading) then the unraveling of that monstrosity can get underway. Should be an entertaining next two years.

“The key now is for us to work as a team,” said Obama, who has issued five veto threats with the new Congress not yet two weeks old.

The President has set the tone in Washington - and that tone is polarization.

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This term will be pretty good for Obama if he stays firm on using his veto (especially needs to veto keystone) and figures out a way to close Guantanamo. He's already been doing good with improving relations with Cuba and some other recent progressive moves, the big danger here is that he works with republicans because a republican congress and centrist president who is awful at getting concessions from republicans is a terrible mix

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Bad news for conservatives: Obama knows all too well who the real terrorists are: the GOP and TP/other extremists in the conservative camp who would rather sabotage and tear America apart than work for the people who voted for them.

Obama's already tried compromise with the GOP - and we got a government shutdown.  Dems have bent over backwards to compromise - even offering to cut Medicare.

Cut valuable life-saving health insurance? Not fund infrastructure? More for wars and less for for schools?

Who are conservatives trying to kid?

It's time to play hardball: and Obama's doing it. The GOP are lining themselves up for a third straight election defeat.

This is going to be fun to watch.

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"“The key now is for us to work as a team,” said Obama,"

That's Obama-speak for "It's MY way, or the highway. Just like a dictator.

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Republicans ignore veto threats, attack Obama agenda

Two points here:

"Republicans ignore veto threats" - which means this is all kabuki. The most pitiful example is the GOP threat to shut down Homeland Security if Obama does not rescind his immigration directives. Heads up here: When you take a hostage, you'd better be willing to shoot it. This will never happen.

"Attack Obama agenda" - Does the GOP really think that they can dismantle bit by bit all that Obama has built during his administration? Like it or hate it, this is his legacy, and he has a veto-proof Senate.

When Obama said, “The key now is for us to work as a team,” what he meant is that there are areas for cooperation such as on trade deals, infrastructure, and broader immigration reform. He did not mean that he would allow the GOP to eviscerate the ACA, his environmental projects, or Wall Street reform, to name a few. But of course the Repubs are knee-jerk responsive to their base and will over-reach once again despite knowing that it is not in their best interest.

Only two weeks into the new Congress, and the inevitable train wreck is already quite clear.

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This is simply the start of the end of the GOP in the next election.

And like the last 2, this coming election loss will be self-inflicted. 

When will conservatives ever learn?? 

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No presidential veto required really. Congressional Democrats should filibuster everything except the most "out there" pieces of legislation Republicans put forward. Republicans abused that minority party advantage in Congress for 6 years.

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This term will be pretty good for Obama if he stays firm on using his veto (especially needs to veto keystone) and figures out a way to close Guantanamo.

Probably won't happen, there are too many jobs that the plan would create. HIGH paying jobs. welders, plumbers, engineers, construction workers etc.

He's already been doing good with improving relations with Cuba and some other recent progressive moves,

54% of American Cubans, that's more than half disapprove of Obama handling the Cuban situation. Will the Castro brothers grant complete freedom to their people? NO. Will they pay the people in Euros or Dollars, rather then confiscate it, put it in their pockets and pay the people in worthless Pesos? NO! Will they release all their political prisoners and return them to the U.S. Like Joanne Chesimard and Victor Manuel Gerena or William Potts and that's just some of the few terrorists that Obama didn't make sure to have Cuba sent back and face justice. All in all, the Castro brothers got what they want and this idiotic president didn't get anything in return. Thank God, the Republicans can slow down or stop the process entirely of giving the Cubans or funding them with anything, including the closing of Gitmo until further notice. This will be very interesting to see how the Republicans will halt or at least drag this out with this God awful president.

the big danger here is that he works with republicans because a republican congress and centrist president who is awful at getting concessions from republicans is a terrible mix.

Centrist? Then I Guess Bush was a progressive liberal then.

Bad news for conservatives: Obama knows all too well who the real terrorists are: the GOP and TP/other extremists in the conservative camp who would rather sabotage and tear America apart than work for the people who voted for them.

Seems like the real terrorist of them all is recovering from an eye injury and is mumbling as how he could go from a majority leader to a minority.

Obama's already tried compromise with the GOP - and we got a government shutdown. Dems have bent over backwards to compromise - even offering to cut Medicare.

Bent over backwards?? In the world of Lib make believe Bizarro world, I guess the DEMS also believe that Obama was in Paris last week as well, we couldn't spot him among the other leaders, but he was there nonetheless. Riiiight.

Cut valuable life-saving health insurance? Not fund infrastructure? More for wars and less for for schools?

Apparently, you don't know or haven't seen the adjusted rates that many Americans have to pay and in many cases, it's very, very high and for some too high to pay, they end up canceling or just paying the fine (tax). Also in the last 6 years when has Obama EVER made fixing the infrastructure a top priority? The man was too busy screwing up the healthcare system for everyone instead of just fixing it for the 11million that didn't have it.

Who are conservatives trying to kid? No, the Dems have been kidding us for the last 6 years and they wonder why both The House and Senate are in the GOPs hands again. Thank God!

It's time to play hardball: and Obama's doing it. The GOP are lining themselves up for a third straight election defeat. This is going to be fun to watch.

Third defeat? They don't need to, just watch Obama try and kill more jobs...oops, I keep forgetting, he didn't create any high paying jobs, I keep forgetting. The Dems are on a perfect road to having their name tarnished in 2016 as well and before you Libs grumble from hearing the truth, know this. A few years ago, the same libs (you know who you are) said, the GOP will NEVER take the House back! Yeah, right and last year, the GOP will NEVER get the Senate, that's strike 2. Please, let's go for a strike 3! Your president is digging that grave for his party and as much as I hate what he's doing to this country, I. Elated at the same time knowing he's taking his party over the cliff, but let's see what he's got. He hasn't been up against both houses that were controlled by the GOP and he doesn't have Reid and Holder to protect him and hold his hand. It takes two to tango and it seems like the Irresistible force meets the immovable object.

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bass4funk: " Your president is digging that grave for his party and as much as I hate what he's doing to this country, I. Elated at the same time knowing he's taking his party over the cliff, but let's see what he's got. "

Please! You're party is too busy fighting each other to seriously challenge the president! You have speakers firing people from committees who voted against them, and you have Ted the moron threatening more shut-downs, which, and you canNOT disagree, hurt the Republicans badly! The GOP has nowhere to go but down, and they know it, and people like you are panicking.

" I keep forgetting, he didn't create any high paying jobs, I keep forgetting. "

I notice you've added 'high' in there. Not long ago you and others claimed he was not adding jobs at all. I know, I know... you keep forgetting.

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Republicans can't even compromise with each other.

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Bass, I think you need to start following the news.

Yes, the news, not Fox 'news' where you are clearly getting your talking points from.

Where's employment? Highest in 8 or is it 10 years?

Share market? Off the charts. 

No. of Americans with health insurance? Higher than ever.

Energy self-sufficiency? Heading skyward.

GDP? What is it today - 5% ?

You need to look at reality - things are rocking and you're still focused on the fantasy world of conservative 'news.'

I'm loving this. The GOP does not know how to govern let alone propose sensible legislation.

Never did. 

The last decade has shown this conclusively.

The GOP is the stomping ground for people who want to destroy America while thinking the complete opposite.

It's bizarro-world.....

BTW, you and your conservative compatriots are right now engineering the coming defeat of the GOP in 2016.

Thanks! :-)

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"Citing the terrorist attacks in Paris, Republican senators on Tuesday proposed restrictions on Obama’s ability to transfer terror suspects out of the federal prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, for the remainder of his term — making it more difficult for Obama to fulfill his goal of closing the facility."

Didn't Obama say he was going to close Gitmo back in 2007? Checking... yeah, he did!

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Gee, Serrano-san, see any logical connection between your quote and statement? Google a second and you'll find the a rather concrete relationship between GOP intransigence and the continued existence of Guantanamo. If it's not one thing, it's another.

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Just reminder, not that anyone forgot, but,

The problem is the Republicans. The Republican party is broken

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Please! You're party is too busy fighting each other to seriously challenge the president!

My party?? Just wait until the hair weaves and talons come out between Hilary and the Ueber over the top Liz Warren and possibly Biden or Bernie Sanders. The fighting will only intensify between the Rhino Dems and the Millennial love for Warren and it will come and hopefully, just praying that the Dems go for a radical like her with that political mixture will definitely put a Republican in the White House.

You have speakers firing people from committees who voted against them, and you have Ted the moron threatening more shut-downs, which, and you canNOT disagree, hurt the Republicans badly! The GOP has nowhere to go but down, and they know it, and people like you are panicking.

When you talk like that, it puts a very big smile on my face knowing that the GOP is on the right track, and that means, the libs are not only falling at the seams and getting nervous and it is nothing put pure delight hearing that kind of talk and once again, Graham and Mcconnell are NOT going to allow the Dems and Obama to bait them into shutting down the government of filibuster, much to the disappoint to all libs, ain't going to happen this time around. They learned their lessons from last time. Try harder.

" I keep forgetting, he didn't create any high paying jobs, I keep forgetting. "

I notice you've added 'high' in there. Not long ago you and others claimed he was not adding jobs at all. I know, I know... you keep forgetting.

Smith, stop skating! Where are the HIGH paying jobs, not a job that requires a question, "do you want fries with that?"

I think you need to start following the news.

I think a lot of you guys need to follow your own advice.

Yes, the news, not Fox 'news' where you are clearly getting your talking points from.

How would you know that unless you are watching it? If so, better for you.

Where's employment? Highest in 8 or is it 10 years?

Yes, indeed, but I am not talking about LOW paying jobs. I am talking about skilled HIGH paying jobs big difference, not to mention on paper it all looks good until you dissect the numbers and see them for what they really are.

Share market? Off the charts.

On that, I am doing very well, can't lie on that. Now if Obama would just cut the corporate tax and bring it below 30% we can really start to see a thriving economy and that would help pave the way for big businesses to return.

No. of Americans with health insurance? Higher than ever.

Number of people that can't afford their premiums higher as well and once many get their 2015 adjust premium rates back, many won't be too happy with the out of control costs. When you say something, please add the cons with the pros.

Energy self-sufficiency? Heading skyward.

Yes, Once that Keystone XL pipe goes through and stops being thick-headed, gets some cahones and tells the EPA to take a hike.

GDP? What is it today - 5% ?

That's excellent, I totally agree, so it's back to, where are the HIGH paying jobs? Oh, keep forgetting, once that Pipeline goes through, the same with coal and gas it should go higher.

You need to look at reality - things are rocking and you're still focused on the fantasy world of conservative 'news.'

No, that's the problem, unlike MOST libs, I am dealing with reality, NOT the so called Bizarro world of Obama make believe.

I'm loving this. The GOP does not know how to govern let alone propose sensible legislation.

Hmmmm, didn't the Dems get tossed out of office twice.....for...NOT knowing how to govern? Just sayin'

Never did.

And that's why they were replaced. NOT fuzzy math.

The last decade has shown this conclusively.

The GOP is the stomping ground for people who want to destroy America while thinking the complete opposite.

The Dems and Obama have already scorched the Earth, they're NOT quite done yet.

It's bizarro-world.....

Like I said.

BTW, you and your conservative compatriots are right now engineering the coming defeat of the GOP in 2016.

The thing that I like so much, you libs hate the fact that the GOP is in power because you guys lost every opportunity to do good things, but focused too much on Obamacare and NOT enough on jobs. But don't take my word for it. This should be a wake up call for every lib and Dem at what greed and selfishness can bring. Maybe if Dems can understand why that and their egos cost them Congress.

http://youtu.be/O9m7fsSUUKQ

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where Republicans remain six vote shorts of the 60-vote majority needed to advance most issues.

Ah, yes. The new standard for voting...60%. Republicans were so intent on creating gridlock that they never thought for a second about what happen should they get the majority.

But perhaps the GOP will be more successful in getting some Dems to cross the line and vote with them. Democrats didn't really go with the "it will be the end of days if we agree with anything" approach the Republicans took when Obama was elected. The main problem still exists where Republicans will torpedo other Republicans if there is a hint of a compromise. The GOP is, after all, the only thing standing between America and complete destruction.

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Ah, yes. The new standard for voting...60%. Republicans were so intent on creating gridlock that they never thought for a second about what happen should they get the majority.

Well, they did and as I said, much to the Dems disappointment, Mcconnel and Graham said, they won't be pulled into that trap again. Unlike the Dems, they want to hold on to congress.

But perhaps the GOP will be more successful in getting some Dems to cross the line and vote with them.

Already happened with the Keystone XL pipeline.

Democrats didn't really go with the "it will be the end of days if we agree with anything" approach the Republicans took when Obama was elected. The main problem still exists where Republicans will torpedo other Republicans if there is a hint of a compromise. The GOP is, after all, the only thing standing between America and complete destruction.

Yes, again, that's why the GOP was voted in because the voters thought the Dems are the people screwing up the country, that's why the Dems were booted out twice. I know it's a hard pill to swallow, but if Dems and libs can for once except reality that they messed up, we can all move forward.

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but if Dems and libs can for once except reality that they messed up, we can all move forward.

OK. You've convinced me. I now fully 'except' the reality that we Dems and libs messed up, that the economy is in shambles, that more people are without health insurance than ever before, that the stock market has hit rock bottom.

At least gasoline prices are down, but that's because Michele Bachmann stuck to her campaign pledge. Thank GOP there's some sanity in this world!

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"Except the reality" - that would make a great GOP slogan!

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"Gee, Serrano-san, see any logical connection between your quote and statement? Google a second and you'll find the a rather concrete relationship between GOP intransigence and the continued existence of Guantanamo."

Gee, Laguna san, do you not know that there are a bunch of low-lifes in Gitmo who would kill you without hesitation or remorse if you ever got in their way?

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Gee, Laguna san, do you not know that there are a bunch of low-lifes in Gitmo who would kill you without hesitation or remorse if you ever got in their way?

Gee Serrano, do you know there low-lifes like that in prisons all over the country? What's your point?

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House Republican message: We hate immigrants more than we hate terrorism

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"Gee Serrano, do you know there low-lifes like that in prisons all over the country? What's your point?"

Gee, gcbel, my point is the prisons all over the country ( and in the world, including Gitmo ) holding these low-lifes should not be closed just yet.

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Gee, Serrano so your point is that these are bad guys so they should stay in a very, very expensive prison, as opposed to transferred to a prison elsewhere? Thought you were all about reducing the deficit?

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Gee, gcbel, if you know where there are cheaper prisons that can securely hold these low-lifes, by all means tell us!

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Gee, Serrano, pretty much any prison in the continental United States. You're welcome! By the way everyone else already knew this.

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