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Republicans signal deep resistance to Trump Senate trial

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Boil it down - Republicans remain loyal to Trump, not the republic.

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The GOP does not stand for "law and order" unless it is for their authoritarian power grab. They do not know JUSTICE unless it meets their own desire to prosecute who they want in order to meet their lust for greed and power. The so called "Republican" party is the antithesis of what the party was originally founded on. I don't want a single party majority rule by the Dems nor GOP, but the GOP is dead inside an it's soul is corrupt and rotten to it's core. I'm writing every single so called Senator on the GOP side and reminding them that this is about justice for the country... not their single celled ideals of party before country.

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Hahaha. The rats tried to flee the sinking Trump train after Trump incited insurrection and a breach of the Capitol Building, but don’t have enough integrity to punish Trump for having done so. Spineless, unpatriotic leeches on our democratic republic.

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I support a trial.

Let's give Trump a chance to re-enter the limelight and remind everybody that the entire US political universe revolves around this man.

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Careful what you wish for.

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Good. I hope the stain of Trump stays on the party. Or I hope he tears it apart. Either way, the GOP will pay the price they so richly deserve.

Dems 2024

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Too bad, it’s happening anyway.

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"I think the trial is stupid. I think it's counterproductive. We already have a flaming fire in this country and it's like taking a bunch of gasoline and pouring it on top of the fire," Marco Rubio

Says the person sold the gasoline and wonders why Rome burned so quickly.

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I hope the impeachment can proceed without the republican tactics of preventing witnesses from testifying and so on. A bipartisan effort to expose Trump’s attempts to sacrifice democracy on the alter of his ego is necessary for the country to move forward. Unsurprisingly, the craven cowards in the GOP are showing they lack the intestinal fortitude and moral fibre to stand up and honestly assess the damage he has wrought, because they would then have to examine their own complicity in allowing it to happen.

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There are rumors that Trump wants to create his own Patriot Party. I hope he does it, so it will tear the Republican Party apart.

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It's unconstitutional to try a private citizen. That would be a Bill of Attainder. Just a continuation of the 5-year witchhunt. Denial of Due Process, violation of the Right to Free Speech... Even according to Turley and Dershowitz.

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It's unconstitutional to try a private citizen.

Weird given private citizens are tried on a daily basis on the US.

That would be a Bill of Attainder.

Okay.

Just a continuation of the 5-year witchhunt.

When a “witch-hunt” tunes up numerous witches, it’s called justice.

Denial of Due Process, violation of the Right to Free Speech... Even according to Turley and Dershowitz.

Incorrect. It would be great to see cites to where you get your info.

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Five people died and the Republicans actively refuse to try the man who obviously bears responsability for it.

So it's official, the Republicans fully support the murder of American people for the sake of their political careers.

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Moral courage and the GOP are mutually exclusive.

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The Republican movement, any politician for that matter, will never been devoted or loyal to a single individual

Political expediency, requires/demands convenience, survival, over morality or conscience.

Donald Trump will face a Trail, however as this articles headline suggests, implies, Donald Trump will be afforded a platform and then acquitted.

If this is the case the whole political spectacle will be worse than pointless.

Donald Trump if deemed or warranted to be culpable in the storming of the United States Capitol, the rioting and violence, and the subsequent fatalities, one a serving police office, then Donald Trump must be afford due process under the US Judicial system.

Not some arbitrary afternoon political reality TV show trail.

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The trial will fall apart after Biden gets tired of dealing with everything Trump.

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The trial will fall apart after Biden gets tired of dealing with everything Trump.

I think that's true. Biden doesn't want to deal with the Trump diaries anymore, he wants to put all his effort into the pandemic.

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The trial will fall apart after Biden gets tired of dealing with everything Trump.

The president doesn't have anything to do with the impeachment process.

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itsonlyrocknrollToday  10:32 am JST

The Republican movement, any politician for that matter, will never been devoted or loyal to a single individual

This is patently false.

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This pandemic has afforded Biden/Harris administration an historic, unprecedented national emergency that requires every waking hour to focus attention, bringing the covid-19 situation under control.

Every resource, both politically, economically must be dedicated to saving lives.

United States COVID-19 Cases and Deaths by State

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases_casesper100klast7days

What is the reasoning or logical goal/objective, in marching the troops up the hill, in some possibly pointless endeavor, a trail that has seemingly already been called, only potentially having to turn around and march them back down again?

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Funny how Trump fans used to tell us that there was plenty of time for him to watch TV for hours and tweet endlessly while still running the country. "Multitasking" is what they claimed, I believe.

Yet suddenly holding Trump accountable for his actions.....just not enough time and shows a lack of focus.

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funkymofo,

I once spent time whilst at University, providing economic and financial research assistance, for the so called political élite, Gordon Brown Government, at there beckon call, admittedly can't complain about the hourly remuneration.

What I can assure you is nothing patently false about a politician duplicitous natural ability or instinct to survive.

So why would the GOP republican party be any different?

Well the short answer, they simply aren't .

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Every resource, both politically, economically must be dedicated to saving lives.

Unlike what happened in the past year, you mean? When the president was just golfing and hate-tweeting? Yeah, you're absolutely right. And that also a good reason why Trump must be impeached, in order for him never to run again.

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It's unconstitutional to try a private citizen.

It isn't.

That would be a Bill of Attainder.

It isn't.

Just a continuation of the 5-year witchhunt. Denial of Due Process

A trial is due process.

violation of the Right to Free Speech...

How?

Even according to Turley and Dershowitz.

I guess I just don't care for your Epstein pals.

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Donald Trump will face a Trail, however as this articles headline suggests, implies, Donald Trump will be afforded a platform and then acquitted.

Trump will not testify and allow himself to be cross examined. He may try to line up interviews with his opinion friends about the mean people on a witch hunt, but the major news outlets will not give him an open forum to spew his baseless lies.

No, this will be mostly the GoP throwing tantrums about the absurdity of allowing evidence to be introduced in a trial.

For example, there is a lot of evidence to be had in the months leading up to Trump speaking on Jan 6th and the intent of that speech. It will take time to subpoena people and get testimony from witnesses and co-conspirators.

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This will be the moment of truth for the Republican Party....

Will they return to the party of Reagan or forever be known herewith as the QAnon party...

We know what Mitch wants - he's been ready to toss Trump overboard for some time now - and that only intensified once Trump lost and then sabotaged the two Georgia Senate candidates, losing McConnell his Majority Leader seat. Mitch is ready for revenge...

But it appears the majority of the Pubs still have yet to re-grow their spine - and cower in fear of a primary challenge...

The Pubs will likely cave and acquit, cowards that they are - but the trial must go on - to set the precedent that inciting an insurrection can never be tolerated...

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Jsapc

I totally agree, when Trumps administration, faced the ultimate challenge, a pandemic to end all pandemics, Trump failed abominably.

Incalculable lives were lost, through stubborn intransigence, a singular lack into understanding the nations plight, and with respect rank stupidity.

Yet both Congress and Senate are governed with, in the Senate case wafer thin majorities.

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If the majority of Republicans refuse to convict Trump they can not only kiss 2024 goodbye but very possibly the Republican Party itself. As a Republican my whole life it boggles the mind that these idiots can't see this. This isn't politics as usual, the Party needs to act for it's own survival and divorce itself from Trump and his insurgent worshippers. McConnell et al understand this.

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If the GOP shows support for Trump, a man who can't get over 40% approval rating and certainly not 50% of the vote, they are screwed. If they have the stones to rebuke Trump, Trump and his fans will primary them or worse (best), start a third party, which would guarantee a blue government for years to come.

Either way, they lose. And it's awesome to watch. Just utterly awesome.

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OssanAmerica

Harold Wilson (UK Prime Minster, first term 1964-70, then a second term 1974 -76), once contended, "week is a long time in politics"

If this is to be believed, then by 2024 we will all be dinosaurs.

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If anyone endangered House, Senate, or Capitol police members, or if anyone assisted the mob to break into secure systems or secure areas, shouldn’t there be a sedition trial? Provided that there is proper evidence, anyone guilty is a traitor to his or her country, don’t you think? And that trial would not require any Senate members to make any embarrassing votes against their own party.

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"what is being alleged and what we saw, which is incitement to insurrection, is an impeachable offense. If not, what is?"

Well said, Mitt Romney.

Senator Mike Rounds told NBC's "Meet the Press" that the constitution does not allow for the impeachment of a former president.

News flash to Mike Rounds: Trump was impeached, while he was president. He will be tried for what he was charged with while he was president. A defendant in any court case is tried on that person's status and state of mind when the crime was committed.

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Politics dictates battles can only be waged when the odds are your agenda will succeed.

If not haggle the outcome, negotiate a win in pushing forward your policy agenda.

in this case of what will your opponent be prepared concede?

The Republicans will concede, Trump has left office, turn this to an advantage.

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itsonlyrocknroll.

I once spent time whilst at University, providing economic and financial research assistance, for the so called political élite, Gordon Brown Government, at there beckon call, admittedly can't complain about the hourly remuneration.

What I can assure you is nothing patently false about a politician duplicitous natural ability or instinct to survive.

So why would the GOP republican party be any different?

Well the short answer, they simply aren't .

Without trying to be glib, the answer to that question is self evident- it is not. You seem to be reinforcing my point. The example you cite however, while obviously making an impression on you, judging by the frequency with which you mention it, is rather erroneous in that people like Trump are often in many ways anti-politicians- that is, they distinguish themselves from their political enemies by not being part of the political elite. The outsider come to save the downtrodden man- how many times have we heard Trump push this narrative? Trump's mantra, and history tells us this is far from unique, has been that he is not part of the political establishment, undermining faith in public institutions and political norms which allows him to tear down the basis of conventional methodology and ideology and creating a cult of personality. Trump's cynical manipulative populism forces those who should know better to fall in line, or face becoming the enemy in his 'for me or against me' political landscape. We've all seen what happens to those who dare speak up against Dear Leader Trump, and it's the fear of his wrath and the duplicitousness of the GOP that has allowed him to assume the hold he quite obviously has over them.

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