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RFK Jr ends U.S. presidential campaign; endorses Trump

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Smart choice by RFK Jr.

This should help keep out the Socialist-bent Democrats.

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Interesting to hear about how he was the subject of Democrat legal war too

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Another weirdo bites the dust.

This isn't really surprising, he was only pulling support from Trump, and he was in Trump's pocket from the beginning.

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Smart choice by RFK Jr.

This should help keep out the Socialist-bent Democrats

True that.

This is how we take America back and make it great again! We don’t all have to agree on everything but we do have to be willing to work together to defeat the Democratic swamp establishment machine!

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This should help keep out the Socialist-bent Democrats.

Lol Yes. Totally. Every RFK jr. Is now going to vote for Trump /s.

Interesting to hear about how he was the subject of Democrat legal war too

Legal war? Lmao he got sued because he lied about where he lived to get ballot access. He lost the case, btw. Weird way for previous "Biden supporters" to characterize the lawsuit they won.

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This is how we take America back and make it great again! We don’t all have to agree on everything but we do have to be willing to work together to defeat the Democratic swamp establishment machine!

Team Angry Doom and Gloom of No Policy says be afraid, very afraid. Doom is upon thee.

9 ( +19 / -10 )

Kennedy will bring in:

1: The Bernie crowd

2: crackpot climate change quacks

3: health enthusiasts

4: My body my choice advocates

5: People who love the Kennedy name itself

No.

He would already have brought them in.

The 2% of the vote he had will go to Trump for the most part, though most of the people who hadn't already jumped ship to Harris when Biden dropped out were only with Kennedy because they absolutely detest Trump. With Kennedy out, those ones won't vote at all most likely.

Slight bump to Trump, but mostly insignificant.

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Lol Yes. Totally. Every RFK jr. Is now going to vote for Trump /s.

They can still vote for RFK Jr. not a problem, it will just be absorbed into the Trump campaign.

Legal war? Lmao he got sued because he lied about where he lived to get ballot access. He lost the case, btw. Weird way for previous "Biden supporters" to characterize the lawsuit they won.

Anyway, this will give Trump at least a 5-8% increase in critical battleground states like Arizona. Add to that, a surprise a bombshell blow to Democrats' the chances of holding a key red state seat in the U.S. House, Alaska Lt. Gov. Nancy Dahlstrom announced Friday she is suspending her campaign for Congress, so for Trump and the GOP this is fantastic news.

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How big was/is that worm in his brain?

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Anyway, this will give Trump at least a 5-8% increase in critical battleground states like Arizona.

Maybe in lala land rofl

13 ( +20 / -7 )

Good move.

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Maybe in lala land rofl

Then the Dems should hope for the best then

Good move

Absolutely, and he will take his name out of the battleground states which significantly gives Trump a bigger edge while still remaining on the Presidential ticket, which could be contested should he get enough votes, doubt it, but still a great move on RFK Jr. part

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Smart choice by RFK Jr.

This should help keep out the Socialist-bent Democrats

True that. 

This is how we take America back and make it great again! We don’t all have to agree on everything but we do have to be willing to work together to defeat the Democratic swamp establishment machine!

You do know that he offered himself first to the Harris campaign, and that they politely told him to go pound Hyannis Port sand.

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Birds of a feather get mocked together. 2 sellout losers.

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Hippies and the boomers who are old school peaceniks from the 60s will now fall into the Trump camp

No, because those people like freedom, and the Republicans are authoritarian. Project 2025 is in your bedroom, in your government and in your life. No more abortion for anyone for example. It's right dystopian.

Trump's top advisors created it and he was a massive part of it.

Old school peacenicks don't like authoritarianism.

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Birds of a feather get mocked together. 2 sellout losers.

That’s not what the Dems are saying

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Trump celebrated Kennedy's endorsement at a campaign stop in Las Vegas. "I want to thank Bobby. That was very nice," Trump said. "He's a great guy, respected by everybody."

Curious.

Just recently Kennedy was a “Radical Left Lunatic”. Makes you wonder if 'Komrade Kamala' has any meaning.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2024/08/23/rfk-jr-endorses-trump-after-calling-him-sociopath---his-reversal-explained/

Even more recently Trump was a 'sociopath'.

Makes you question the integrity of one either one has to say.

Does 'radical left, Marxist, socialist,leftist, communist' have any meaning anymore? Or is it just a pointless epithet?

What am I saying, they do not have any integrity.

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That’s not what the Dems are saying

The dems are saying Kennedy is weird.

And that maybe it's because of worms in his brain. He did weird things like dumping a bear carcass in Central Park.

Trump's keeping good company with this one...

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When Coach Walz told us we're in the fourth, and down a field goal, he was referring to Kennedy.

We can overcome.

NOT GOING BACK! NOT GOING BACK!

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With all these qualities why you worry about RFK????

Literally no one has been worrying about RFK. Except maybe his wife.

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Curious.

Just recently Kennedy was a “Radical Left Lunatic”. Makes you wonder if 'Komrade Kamala' has any meaning. 

On certain issues he’s a bit more radical, true

Even more recently Trump was a 'sociopath'. 

And?

Makes you question the integrity of one either one has to say. 

Does 'radical left, Marxist, socialist,leftist, communist' have any meaning anymore? Or is it just a pointless epithet?

It does, and RFK Jr. sees that danger, so for him to align himself with Trump to punt Harris a very welcome and a charge Trump would greatly benefit from.

What am I saying, they do not have any integrity.

Yeah, the left really have no room to accuse anyone of integrity.

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With all these qualities why you worry about RFK???? those are nothing ... Yeah ..

Eeeeexactly.

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This will help Trump shore up the whacko anti-vaxxer vote.

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why you left and new communism dreamers are crying?????? why ??

No one on the left is crying. What are you talking about?

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It's clearly lining up as woke Marxism vs. normal people.

Nope. Team weirdo doom and gloom vs. Team Normal and joy.

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You do know that he offered himself first to the Harris campaign, and that they politely told him to go pound Hyannis Port sand.

Huh?? Yeah, uh-huh..lol

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It's clearly lining up as woke Marxism vs. normal people.

Yes. Normal support absolute weirdos like RFK jr., or Trump and JD Vance. Did anyone see that bizarre interaction Vance had at the donut shop?

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Kennedy, Tulsi Gabbard, Jimmy Dore etc. are all people from the left who realized that woke has driven the Dems into insane Communist ideological positions that everybody people can't agree with.

So why did Kennedy approach ‘the Dems’ for a post drop out job first?

Endorsing 45 was his second choice after getting rejected.

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Kremlin couldn't give a ____ who will 'win'. They've been burnt so many times they will just finish off what they see as necessary.

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Yes. Normal support absolute weirdos like RFK jr., or Trump and JD Vance. Did anyone see that bizarre interaction Vance had at the donut shop?

That’s what the left are focusing on?? Well, that’s good, keep doing that. Lol

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Yes. Normal support absolute weirdos like RFK jr., or Trump and JD Vance. Did anyone see that bizarre interaction Vance had at the donut shop?

He is so whiney and weird.

It works for Trump, because the idiots listen to him, but Vance doesn't even have that.]

And his new haircut is a real facepalm.

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That’s what the left are focusing on??

Yes, Vance being a complete weirdo is one of the things we are focused on making sure everybody knows.

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That’s what the left are focusing on?? Well, that’s good, keep doing that. Lol

Yes. That's the only thing I'm focused on. Reeeee

8 ( +10 / -2 )

Last week RFK reached out to Harris with the deal of endorsing her if she gave him a job. As that is unethical, she declined.

After the rejection, RFK went to trump with the same deal. Given trump’s reputation for unethical business practices, he unsurprisingly happily accepted.

This both shows how unethical trump is and that RFK just doesn’t stand for anything. Just living off his name, and now dragging it though the mud. JFK would be so disappointed.

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Kremlin couldn't give a ____ who will 'win'. They've been burnt so many times they will just finish off what they see as necessary.

Sure they do, they've been whining since the start about Americans giving the Ukrainians weapons.

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It does, and RFK Jr. sees that danger, so for him to align himself with Trump to punt Harris a very welcome and a charge Trump would greatly benefit from.

So RFK is endorsing a sociopath and Trump welcoming support from a 'radical Left lunatic' to run against 'Komrade Kamala'?

I wonder who is the real leftist and lunatic.

It is all so confusing, like it has no meaning at all.

Are their actually any 'Leftists for Trump'? If there are they may have some interesting psychological issues.

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Endorsing 45 was his second choice after getting rejected.

yeah, trump is never the first choice when it comes to ANYTHING.

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yeah, trump is never the first choice when it comes to ANYTHING.

He wasn't even the first choice when he became president.

The people have never wanted Trump as president.

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You do know that he offered himself first to the Harris campaign, and that they politely told him to go pound Hyannis Port sand.

Huh?? Yeah, uh-huh..lol

After you stop rolling around on the davenport, have a look at this:

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/rfk-jr-attempted-to-arrange-meeting-with-kamala-harris-sources-say/

That was nine days ago.

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RFK Jr has spoke during his livestream longer than Kamala Harris has in the 30+ days since presumably becoming the Democrat nominee. 

This both shows how unethical trump is and that RFK just doesn’t stand for anything.

Harris can’t talk, her and the the msm will do everything to shield her, don’t preach about ethics when the Dems are the architects of unethical policies

Just living off his name, and now dragging it though the mud. JFK would be so disappointed.

I think he’s more disappointed about the Democrat party as a whole.

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After you stop rolling around on the davenport, have a look at this:

Yeah, I saw that. Like my dad would say, one man’s lost is another man’s gain.

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Harris can’t talk, her and the the msm will do everything to shield her, don’t preach about ethics when the Dems are the architects of unethical policies

Ugh, did you hear her speech at the DNC. Anyone who watched that would know your claim is false. She was sharp, clearly articulate, smart, normal, a person that the American people can relate, which happens to also be all the things that trump is NOT.

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Like my dad would say, one man’s lost (sic) is another man’s gain.

Or one man’s “loss” is because the first campaign rejected him out of hand, and the person in question, lacking even a shred of moral fiber, was just looking for a gig. So it doesn’t matter to him which side picks him up.

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Free voices and choices.

Most people want a better economy (not double digit inflation)

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RFK Jr ends U.S. presidential campaign; endorses Trump

Brilliant. What a speech—the entire thing was spot on—some of the things he said are the reason why some Democrats or people who used to vote for the DP are now voting for Trump. This (brilliant) speech / support / endorsement will wake up many undecided voters / independents. Well done, Bobby.

Note: He’s removing his name from the ballot in battleground states to help Trump, and leaving it on in blue states to hurt Democrats; he instructed his supporters to still vote for him in blue states depriving Harris of any votes that would’ve gone to her had he suspended entirely—a well deserved FY to the DP.

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Not surprising news, RFK, Vance and trump all share a prominent trait, they are all WEIRD.

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All the Democrats had to do was to act honestly and with integrity in their “democratic” primary. They couldn’t even do that and now they are going to lose.

No TayTay, no Beyoncé, don’t want to be seen supporting a loser. Newsom is in the media mocking their primary process.

Dems were desperately calling RFKs pick for VP begging her to stop this.

couldn’t. so now they have to claim he’s a fringe candidate whose endorsement means nothing? No this is yuuuuuge for Trump.

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Ugh, did you hear her speech at the DNC. Anyone who watched that would know your claim is false.

They can do that, but we are dealing with reality.

She was sharp, clearly articulate, smart, normal, a person that the American people can relate, which happens to also be all the things that trump is NOT.

Besides mentioning Trump 27 times, what specific policies did she talk about? The border, inflation, crime? Trump and abortion….rising food costs? None of that.

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“Critics of the Democratic Party have suggested Harris got the nomination without the true will of the voters, but Newsom appeared to find the process humorous. 

"We went through a very open process, a very inclusive process. It was bottom-up, I don’t know if you know that. That’s what I’ve been told to say," Newsom said as he laughed during a talk with "Pod Save America" posted Friday.”

Gavin now realizes he will be running in 2028 after a Trump 2nd term.

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Note: He’s removing his name from the ballot in battleground states to help Trump, and leaving it on in blue states to hurt Democrats

Lol no. It's left on in a number of states because it's too late to remove. Nice try with the spin, though.

a well deserved FY to the DP.

Oh no, what will we will do without the brainworms fans?

Anyone notice how RFK support has shrujk over the past few weeks, and support for Trump hasn't increased. Our silly rightwing friends should probably ask why.

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Or one man’s “loss” is because the first campaign rejected him out of hand, and the person in question, lacking even a shred of moral fiber, was just looking for a gig. So it doesn’t matter to him which side picks him up.

Ok, so that’s it? Lib rhetoric and nothing else.

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He never stood chance in the first place. He existed solely as a tool to try and dilute Democrat votes.

It failed miserably.

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bass4funk

Besides mentioning Trump 27 times, what specific policies did she talk about? The border, inflation, crime? Trump and abortion….rising food costs? None of that.

Harris mentioned Trump twice in her DNC speech.

https://singjupost.com/full-transcript-kamala-harriss-2024-dnc-speech/

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Harris mentioned Trump twice in her DNC speech.

Not during the day of the entire event

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Besides mentioning Trump 27 times, what specific policies did she talk about? The border, inflation, crime? Trump and abortion….rising food costs? None of that.

You just blew your cover, as you clearly didn’t watch it. Because she spoke about ALL of those points.

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Or one man’s “loss” is because the first campaign rejected him out of hand, and the person in question, lacking even a shred of moral fiber, was just looking for a gig. So it doesn’t matter to him which side picks him up.

Ok, so that’s it? Lib rhetoric and nothing else.

OK, let’s make this simple.

He offered himself first to Harris. Who was his first choice?

Harris, obviously.

He was rejected by Harris. Who was his last gasp choice?

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He never stood chance in the first place. He existed solely as a tool to try and dilute Democrat votes.

It failed miserably.

Well, it’s doing that now, that why he endorsed Trump, not to mention it knocked Harris off the front page after their huge DNC convention.

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Literally no one has been worrying about RFK.

as he makes his dozens of posts about how it totally doesn’t matter that RFK Jr is endorsing Trump.

doesn’t matter. At all, he claims. Keep repeating and posting it until you force yourself to believe it? Lol

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He offered himself first to Harris. Who was his first choice?

Doesn't matter, who did he support in the end?

He was rejected by Harris. Who was his last gasp choice?

And look who’s eating crow. They should have taken Jill Steins advice, but no…

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He offered himself first to Harris. Who was his first choice?

Doesn't matter, who did he support in the end?

The only one that would accept him: his second and only other choice.

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RFK Jr. will be speaking soon together with Trump at a rally.

Brilliant timing by Trump's people to get this endorsement right after the DNC festival.

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RFK Jr. will be speaking soon together with Trump at a rally.

I'm sure it'll get all the room temperature IQ crowd all hot and bothered. But whatever copium helps Trump fans deal with the fact his reelection odds are sun downing quicker than Trump himself is.

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What will be hilarious is watching this whole Trump-RFK Jr romance blow up when Bobby gets asked if he agrees with Trump that the COVID vaccine is "safe" and especially when he's reminded that Trump also said "frankly all of my supporters should get it....

"So Bobby, is it safe and when are you getting your shot?"

So MAGA-fans, what do you think he'll say?

One guy with a brain half-eaten by a worm and one with a brain half-eaten by Alzheimer's...

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I'm sure it'll get all the room temperature IQ crowd all hot and bothered. But whatever copium helps Trump fans deal with the fact his reelection odds are sun downing quicker than Trump himself is.

Interesting comment that flies in the face of facts--sounds like something someone would say after watching Harris speak at the DNC fun-fest.

Actually, I do not know anyone who actually watched it.

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You all know good and well that when Nancy pulled the coup on poor old Joe, she was doing it for Gavin not Kamala.

Lmao you're back to falling it a coup again. You know good and well it wasn't a coup, because it's been explained to you. Trump fans are so desperate. This is their attempt to unify the country? By making up complete and utter nonsense?

anyway thanks for the 4% extra of the popular vote. A week of fake polls trying to show that 4% nonsensically going to Harris as a post convention “bump”- but then reality will hit.

Keep dreaming. All one has to do is look at how RFK support had plummeted, Harris is increasing, and Trump is flat or slightly decreasing, to know there isn't going to be a 4% bump.

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Blacklabel

Literally no one has been worrying about RFK.

as he makes his dozens of posts about how it totally doesn’t matter that RFK Jr is endorsing Trump.

RFK was the candidate of anti-vax and double haters. Trump will get some of his voters, but not significant. Kamala will get another bump after the debate. ;-)

8 ( +10 / -2 )

bass4funk

Harris mentioned Trump twice in her DNC speech.

Not during the day of the entire event

Harris only spoke during her speech.

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Interesting comment that flies in the face of facts--

Waiting on those facts.

Actually, I do not know anyone who actually watched it

Ever heard of confirmation bias?

9 ( +11 / -2 )

RFK Jr’s first line will be:

”I tried the best, but had to settle for the rest. I just need a gig.”

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You all know good and well that when Nancy pulled the coup on poor old Joe, she was doing it for Gavin not Kamala.

I know good and well you spend a lot of time on daydreaming and weird podcast conspiracies.

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RFK was the candidate of anti-vax and double haters. Trump will get some of his voters, but not significant. Kamala will get another bump after the debate. ;-)

It was just shown that Trump gains in key states as a result.

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Yeah yeah.

RFK Jr. has 5% of the vote. After her huge and improbable honeymoon with no media questions and almost no announced policies for a month, Kamala supposedly got a 2 point national lead.

Which means she loses anyway, even before this.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-harris-vs-kennedy-vs-stein-vs-west

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It was just shown that Trump gains in key states as a result.

you literally just made that up. There are no new polls since this was just announced.

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Lacks the quality of JFK. He was disowned by his own family. Smuck.

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It was just shown that Trump gains in key states as a result.

Which poll?

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In polling that polls both 2 and three candidate races, the difference is not significant. In races where she’s leading, she’s still leading. In states where he’s leading, he’s still leading.

RFK Jr. Is a spent force adopted by a depreciated asset.

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And look who’s eating crow

That would be RFK, but only because he already ate a dog and he had flying abandon the bear corpse because he forgot that he had to catch a flight.

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since he was funded by maga, it’s not that complicated to understand. i’m sure most of his supporters would be trump supporters. the “all vaccines are bad” types, and the “vaccines cause autism” types who never got the word that the guy who said that lost his medical license and recanted it.

the darn facts things are tricky for them.

anyway, trump likes people who had a worm eat part of their brain, and as he so famousy said, “i love the undereducated.”

you can feel the desperation when people go into hyper-posting mode like yesterday.

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Blue blue Virginia:

https://roanoke.edu/news/rcpoll/august2024

Harris 45, Trump 42.

RFK? 6 %

ruh roh.

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Nibek32Today  08:38 am JST

It was just shown that Trump gains in key states as a result.

*you literally just made that up***.**

Welcome to internet debating 101. That's what people do when they have no cogent arguments.

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i went to school near roanoke. i know roanoke. that’s like saying trump is leading in a fox news poll.

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This is typical MAGA-world and Trump - boasting about something that will only further hurt his tanking campaign and show what a HUGE FLIP-FLOPPER he is....

So what's the answer to the ELEPHANT in the room MAGA-fans...

Is the vaccine "poison" as RFK Jr says or is it "safe and it works" as Trump assured all MAGA-world on Fox News?

Bass/Black - which is it? And while you're answering that, also tell us if life still begins at conception and if EVs are now "fantastic".

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Bobby would be throwing up if he were alive today and could've listened to his son, RFK jr., speaking today.

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i went to school near roanoke. i know roanoke. that’s like saying trump is leading in a fox news poll.

not only that, but it's absurd to think that all 6% of those polled are now going to be voting for Trump. Some might, but most will probably will not.

8 ( +10 / -2 )

https://roanoke.edu/news/rcpoll/august2024

harris 47, trump 44

RFK, you ask? 5%

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In polling that polls both 2 and three candidate races, the difference is not significant.

Oh but it is. RFK has more votes for him than Kamala’s “lead”. 

you might wanna go check again.

Well, case closed! Who could argue with that arithmetic?

Forget the pollsters (whom it loves to quote when they agree) and statistics.

WHO needs that hogwash when you’ve got a wholly unsubstantiated assumption that ALL RFK voters will go to Trump and basic arithmetic?

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edit, wrong link, this is correct.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/18/harris-trump-post-abc-ipsos-poll/

harris 47, trump 44

RFK, you ask? 5%

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WHO needs that hogwash when you’ve got a wholly unsubstantiated assumption that ALL RFK voters will go to Trump and basic arithmetic?

This is how you know they know they're losing. They hanging their hats on 100% of RFK's supporters voting for Trump and we know that's not happening.

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Forget the pollsters (whom it loves to quote when they agree) and statistics. 

Hey you said no poll shows what I just easily showed you- twice.

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RFK's 'supporters' only voted for him because they detest Trump and thought Biden was too old. Now the situation has changed so it would seem that most RFK fans will now take the Harris option. Trump couldn't care less about the environment whereas RFK claims to care. The parasitic worm that got RFK years ago has obviously resulted in long-term effects!

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Harris mentioned Trump twice in her DNC speech.

No. During her 37 minute speech, Kamala Harris mentioned Trump 15 times, and she lied about him each of those 15 times.

Harris only spoke during her speech.

On that day, which was yesterday.

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I wouldn't be feeling too excited if I were a Trump supporter. By all accounts RFK Jnr. is a bit of a joke and that's why his support was dwindling. People who might have voted for him are just as likely to switch to Harris as they are to Trump, especially if they're already more Democrat-inclined.

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*No. During her 37 minute speech, Kamala Harris mentioned Trump 15 times, and she lied about him each of those 15 times*.

Setting aside the accusation of "lied about him each of those times" (which in your vernacular just means "said something about him that I disagree with"), why wouldn't she mention him frequently? He's her opponent, he's the one she's trying to beat, and at this point he is the republican party. I bet at least she pronounced his name properly.

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Which poll?

https://youtu.be/IeGZwkgfLUY?si=xkTemfhe_Qpu4ZnD

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bass4funk

Harris mentioned Trump twice in her DNC speech.

No. During her 37 minute speech, Kamala Harris mentioned Trump 15 times, and she lied about him each of those 15 times.

I guess you didn't check the transcript of her speech which I linked to. Use your browser to edit 'find' Trump to know how many times it appears. Easy really. Facts don't lie.

Harris only spoke during her speech.

On that day, which was yesterday.

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Oh but it is. RFK has more votes for him than Kamala’s “lead”. 

Why do you assume RFK voters will now vote for 45? Many of them, as the majority of Americans do, do not support 45.

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Setting aside the accusation of "lied about him each of those times" (which in your vernacular just means "said something about him that I disagree with"),

No, flat out lied. Big difference.

why wouldn'tshe mention him frequently?

Why have a convention at all then? You want to reach your voters and possible potential that might be interested in you about your policies and what differentiates you from your opponent, Kamala did none of that. Just bash Trump, talked about abortion and glossed very lightly over a few things and nothing else. I’m ok with that because she doesn’t want to run on her record with Joe and is distancing herself from him to try and rebrand herself. No mention of the growing crime, illegals and the deportation of them, taxing capital gains, none of that’s

He's her opponent, he's the one she's trying to beat, and at this point he is the republican party. I bet at least she pronounced his name properly.

Again, this helps Trump, like you said, name pronunciation, abortion and Trump bad, that’s all the Dems have, you go on an continue to make Trump smile now.

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I guess you didn't check the transcript of her speech which I linked to.

I did and she veered off some of it. Watch it again, slow it down

Use your browser to edit 'find' Trump to know how many times it appears.

Naw, just watch the video

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Forget the pollsters (whom it loves to quote when they agree) and statistics. 

Hey you said no poll shows what I just easily showed you- twice.

No, you showed a poll that has Harris up by 4 and RFK at 5 and you assume that Trump will get all of RFK’s polled support.

But who are professional statisticians compared to the immutable logic of a part-time day-trader?

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Which poll?

https://youtu.be/IeGZwkgfLUY?si=xkTemfhe_Qpu4ZnD

Did you watch that?

I asked for a poll, not a teen basement dwellers fantasy football YouTube channel.

12 ( +13 / -1 )

bass4funk

I was mistaken. Harris in her 35-minute speech mentioned Trump 24 times.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/read-kamala-harriss-speech-at-the-dnc-in-chicago.html

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No RFK Jr. voters are voting for Kamala.

Not after he spends the next 2 months telling his supporters over and over how he was mistreated by Democrats.

CNN conveniently cut away from his speech as soon as he started talking about DNC corruption in the primary and the compliant media.

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So, since I've asked this question, Black and Bass have both posted 4 times - and they both dodged answering a very easy question directly related to the article....

*So what's the answer to the ELEPHANT in the room MAGA-fans...*

Is the vaccine "poison" as RFK Jr says or is it "safe and it works" as Trump assured all MAGA-world on Fox News?

Bass/Black - which is it?

You can't ignore the elephant in the room....either you believe Trump when he says the vaccine is safe and in turn, that RFK Jr is a liar and a fraud....

Or you believe RFK Jr when he says the vaccine is dangerous and Trump is trying to poison all his supporters when he encourages them to take it...

Prove to us all that you're not "basement dwellers" as Trump describes you...

Show a little MAGA-warrior spirit and less MAGA-cowardice and answer the question rather then running away to your basement and hide...

8 ( +10 / -2 )

No RFK Jr. voters are voting for Kamala.

How many did you ask?

Some of RFKs policies are agreeable. His programs for drug rehabilitation, based on decades experience as a heroin addict, for example.

9 ( +11 / -2 )

No, flat out lied. Big difference.

I assume there is no point in asking you to prove that.

You want to reach your voters and possible potential that might be interested in you about your policies and what differentiates you from your opponent, Kamala did none of that. 

Maybe she doesn't need to. She's not Trump. That simple fact should be enough to win over anyone schizophrenic enough to consider themselves undecided at this point. I mean even you can't deny the straight up fact that he was convicted on 34 felony counts. Whether you consider that justified or not is a different matter, but that's what I mean about undecided. You're either going to vote for the man, knowing that he is the dictionary definition of a criminal, or you're not. Nothing Harris could say or do will change that level of obstinacy.

12 ( +12 / -0 )

I was mistaken. Harris in her 35-minute speech mentioned Trump 24 times

Ok, so why no mention of the border, crime, attacks on our law enforcement, securing the border, talking more about the economy and less taxation?

-14 ( +1 / -15 )

That's really something you can boast to your real life friends about, or when you're cruising the clubs and bars in your Trump t-shirt and MAGA cap.

It is! And it’s also factual.

Thanks for your valued contribution to the conversation.

-16 ( +2 / -18 )

No RFK Jr. voters are voting for Kamala.

A very bold and wrong statement. All one has to do is look here to see that a collapse in RFK support doesn't mean an increase in Trump support. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/

Not after he spends the next 2 months telling his supporters over and over how he was mistreated by Democrats.

1) He wasn't mistreated by Democrats, and 2) even if true, there's nothing to say they're all going to back Trump because he says too.

That certainly didn't happen with Nikki Haley supporters when she dropped out. https://abcnews.go.com/538/haley-voters-back-trump/story?id=108063693

9 ( +10 / -1 )

bass4funk

I was mistaken. Harris in her 35-minute speech mentioned Trump 24 times

Ok, so why no mention of the border, crime, attacks on our law enforcement, securing the border, talking more about the economy and less taxation?

Trump could never make a 35-minute speech. Takes him 60 minutes for his opening. Yawn.

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No, you showed a poll that has Harris up by 4 and RFK at 5 and you assume that Trump will get all of RFK’s polled support.

not what you falsely claimed. This you?

polling that polls both 2 and three candidate races, the difference is not significant.

5 is quite significant when a “lead” is 4.

-14 ( +1 / -15 )

Trump, Lake and RFK at one rally. 

That’s a trifecta of insanity. 

For the left, I agree. Dangerous political concoction.

No wonder medics had to treat 100 people for delusional illness.

It’s August, it’s the summer heat. Close proximity.

Trump could never make a 35-minute speech. Takes him 60 minutes for his opening. Yawn.

True, but he’s funny and he will go anywhere, really, he’s done almost over 17 hardcore interviews this month and Kamala did……

Wait, why do I see a white piece of paper?

-15 ( +2 / -17 )

I asked for a poll, not a teen basement dwellers fantasy football YouTube channel.

Who was a prominent professional pollster? Nice try. Relax, discounting them and getting angry won’t help.

Anyway, it’s all good.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/biden_administration/election_2024_trump_49_harris_46

-16 ( +1 / -17 )

You can't ignore the elephant in the room....either you believe Trump when he says the vaccine is safe and in turn, that RFK Jr is a liar and a fraud....

Or you believe RFK Jr when he says the vaccine is dangerous and Trump is trying to poison all his supporters when he encourages them to take it...

Prove to us all that you're not "basement dwellers" as Trump describes you...

Show a little MAGA-warrior spirit and less MAGA-cowardice and answer the question rather then running away to your basement and hide...

Two more posts each - and the dodge continues...

Looks like MAGA-cowardice rules the day again...

Thanks Bass/Black - for proving to everyone here what Trump said about you is true...

10 ( +10 / -0 )

crazy joins crazy.

Didn't think much of the black sheep in the family lore, but this apple fell so far away from the tree, I don't think there's a person admired more than Bobby Kennedy who has had a ridiculous, drop in humanity, and lack of intelligent sense, namesake child, in the history of mankind.

RFK, jr is a joke of a human being.

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Who was a prominent professional pollster? Nice try. Relax, discounting them and getting angry won’t help.

A poll is not one persons opinion. Try again.

I can discount him without getting angry. Relax, try harder Bass.

11 ( +13 / -2 )

Team Angry Doom and Gloom of No Policy says be afraid, very afraid. Doom is upon thee.

Grab me a list of Kamala's policies. You said abortion is all that matters since you aren't American.

-15 ( +1 / -16 )

This Reuters article: "they agreed on issues like border security, free speech and ending wars."

What RFK Jr said: "Three causes drove me to enter this race in the first place. And these are the principal causes that persuaded me to leave the Democratic Party and run as an independent and now to throw my support at President Trump. The causes were free speech, war in Ukraine and the war on our children." 

RFK Jr did not talk about the war in Gaza. He talked about one specific war.

Why do you think Reuters did not report what RFK Jr said about the Ukraine war and instead changed the wording to the vague "ending wars"?

-7 ( +1 / -8 )

Blacklabel

polling that polls both 2 and three candidate races, the difference is not significant.

5 is quite significant when a “lead” is 4.

That assumes that all of RFK’s voters will move to Trump, which just isn’t the case. And the one’s that decide to move to Trump are likely low enthusiasm since their guy dropped out. And some went to RFK because they didn’t like Biden, so those could go to Harris. This will likely help Trump, but not significantly.

7 ( +8 / -1 )

bass4funk

Who was a prominent professional pollster? Nice try. Relax, discounting them and getting angry won’t help.

Anyway, it’s all good.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/biden_administration/election_2024_trump_49_harris_46

You used to link to Real Clear Politics polls, and now you linking to the most right leaning poll.

Why the switch?

Here’s the Real Clear Politics average, with only Rasmussen leaning Trump.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-harris

5 ( +6 / -1 )

Good to see the gop triple down.

Trump, Vance, Kennedy.

Senile, weird, crazy.

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The one question that causes our MAGA-friends to run to their basement and hide in a corner...

Either you believe Trump when he says the vaccine is safe and in turn, that RFK Jr is a liar and a fraud....

Or you believe RFK Jr when he says the vaccine is dangerous and Trump is trying to poison all his supporters when he encourages them to take it...

So enjoy your corner gentlemen - when you decide to regain your courage and peek your heads out and answer this easy question, let us know...

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A poll is not one persons opinion. Try again.

Not me, definitely not me. Lol

I can discount him without getting angry. Relax, try harder Bass.

No need to try the polls are already shifting in his favor again, slowly.

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(The (TR) article doesn't mention what Bobby said in his speech (what a surprise…—sigh), so here it is, my fellow JT readers: )

… Democrats stood against authoritarianism, against censorship, against colonialism, imperialism, and unjust wars…

… we were the party of labor of the working class. The Democrats were the party of government transparency and the champion of the environment…

… our party was the bulwark against big money, interests, and corporate power. True to its name. It was the party of democracy…

… as you know, I left that party in October because it had departed so dramatically from the core values that I grew up with.

It had become the party of war, censorship, corruption, big pharma, big tech, big ag, and big money...

Note: The DP is unrecognizable but apparently, some people enjoy the hypocrisy, the same people who think New York and California should decide every presidential election. Lmao.

-12 ( +1 / -13 )

Most Kennedys stand behind RFK Jr's decision. They choose democracy over communism.

-13 ( +1 / -14 )

bass4funk

I can discount him without getting angry. Relax, try harder Bass.

No need to try the polls are already shifting in his favor again, slowly.

No. They are not.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/

7 ( +9 / -2 )

One nut job endorses another nut job.

9 ( +12 / -3 )

DaDude

Most Kennedys stand behind RFK Jr's decision. They choose democracy over communism.

No they don't.

They choose democracy over communism.

Do you even know what communism is?

7 ( +10 / -3 )

I think Trump and Kennedy could unite the basement dwellers but was Trump’s promotion of vaccines too much for some?

Will it shift the polls?

8 ( +11 / -3 )

rcch

… Democrats stood against authoritarianism, against censorship, against colonialism, imperialism, and unjust wars…

So why doesn't RJK stand against Russian authoritarianism, censorship, colonialism, imperialism, and Putin's unjust war in Ukraine…?

What a hypocrite.

10 ( +12 / -2 )

*RFK

4 ( +6 / -2 )

(The (TR) article doesn't mention what Bobby said in his speech (what a surprise…—sigh), so here it is, my fellow JT readers: )

Yes. Thank you for Cliff's notes version. Either RFK is delusional or a lying hack, readers can decide.

Democrats stood against authoritarianism, against censorship, against colonialism, imperialism, and unjust wars…

And they still do. Under the Biden administration, the US has left Afghanistan is not at war. Trump, on the hand, is firmly on the side of authoritarians like Orban and Putin.

we were the party of labor of the working class. The Democrats were the party of government transparency and the champion of the environment…

Lol Trump is a scab. He held a "pro-labor" rally with non-labor workers. Only the Harris-Walz ticket is union-backed.

our party was the bulwark against big money, interests, and corporate power. True to its name. It was the party of democracy…

And it still is. Do you think wall street and techno bro backed Trump cares about reigning in corporate power or democracy? Don't be absurd.

It had become the party of war, censorship, corruption, big pharma, big tech, big ag, and big money...

Lol none of this is true. We're not at war, there hasn't been a single scandal in the Biden administration, the Biden administration has capped insulin prices. Give me a break.

8 ( +10 / -2 )

Most Kennedys stand behind RFK Jr's decision. They choose democracy over communism.

Still have not heard any answer to the conundrum of how Trump can accept support from someone he characterizes as a radical far left lunatic, to the left of Harris/Walz.

I thought Trump MAGA hates Marxism with the fury of a thousand suns.

I am just going to use Occam's razor and conclude when Trump uses these terms they mean nothing.

Like when he wants his McDs and the workers are striking for living wages; that is far left Communist radical craziness.

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You used to link to Real Clear Politics polls, and now you linking to the most right leaning poll.

I still read RCP, nothing has changed other than looking more closely into the polls

Depends, on which current poll.

Why the switch?

No switch

Here’s the Real Clear Politics average, with only Rasmussen leaning Trump.

Yes, and that is important because they update their polling a few times a day whereas the others don't.

-11 ( +1 / -12 )

bass4funk

Here’s the Real Clear Politics average, with only Rasmussen leaning Trump.

Yes, and that is important because they update their polling a few times a day whereas the others don't.

And they have been the one of the least accurate polls.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/

9 ( +9 / -0 )

Still have not heard any answer to the conundrum of how Trump can accept support from someone he characterizes as a radical far left lunatic, to the left of Harris/Walz.

Listen more closely

I thought Trump MAGA hates Marxism with the fury of a thousand suns.

Worse

I am just going to use Occam's razor and conclude when Trump uses these terms they mean nothing.

To us on the right or half of the country, it does.

Like when he wants his McDs and the workers are striking for living wages; that is far left Communist radical craziness.

Speaking of Dems wanting higher living wages.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/california-fast-food-franchise-owners-consumers-feel-brunt-of-minimum-wage-hike-174515934.html

But this is what the Socialists wanted.

-11 ( +1 / -12 )

And they have been the one of the least accurate polls.

Project five thirty has been more lib leaning slightly, been like that for a few years

https://youtu.be/_Ul5IbtSyP4?si=kIFk-HDJYyOA1bkZ

-10 ( +1 / -11 )

But this is what the Socialists wanted.

Any business that does not pay a living wages should go out of business or scrap it's business model.

If that is socialist, long live socialism.

We will see which vision wins Nov 5

11 ( +11 / -0 )

When one is cheerleading an endorsement from an anti-vax nutjob who abandoned dead animals in a park (along with a bike to make it look like an accident because why not?) one is really getting desperate.

RFK shopped himself around and had no other takers so he sold himself cheap.

And thus further alienated Trump from the non-cult electorate.

7 ( +8 / -1 )

But this is what the Socialists wanted.

Republicans want the working class impoverished- we already know.

9 ( +9 / -0 )

Any business that does not pay a living wages should go out of business or scrap it's business model.

So that means, I lot of people in the Oakland area won't have anything, they will have to drive for miles and miles just to buy a burger.

If that is socialist, long live socialism.

If you think robbing from Paul to give to Peter is a noble thing, that will last so long, and once you use up all of someone else's money, then what? 

The people of Oakland are indeed waking up to that reality

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/businesses-leaving-oakland-crime/3440618/

-8 ( +1 / -9 )

odd way to say what I said is…..true

Not what I'm saying at all, swing thang. But please don't let me get in the way of your delusions that all 5% of RFK voters are going to back Trump. That ain't happening, and you can look changes in support to know that fact.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

Republicans want the working class impoverished- we already know.

If they did, people wouldn't be staying in Blue states and not run from them.

-8 ( +2 / -10 )

And thus further alienated Trump from the non-cult electorate.

Exactly. Rfk doesn't believe any of that gibberish he said. He's just doing what he can to get a job in the Trump administration should they win. RFK and Trump are world class grifters.

7 ( +8 / -1 )

If they did, people wouldn't be staying in Blue states and not run from them.

Tax cuts for the rich, screw the poor- that's you, not Dems.

4 ( +5 / -1 )

And thus further alienated Trump from the non-cult electorate.

does it? Or do we get RFKs 5% of voters?

-7 ( +2 / -9 )

ah that’s cute. So what I said was true.

No. What you said isn't true. What is true is that it's delusional to think that all RFK voters are now going to back Trump. That's not happening and we both know it.

6 ( +6 / -0 )

And thus further alienated Trump from the non-cult electorate.

does it? Or do we get RFKs 5% of voters?

No, not according to scientific polling. But you would know about that because it involves math.

3 ( +4 / -1 )

What is true is that it's delusional to think that all RFK voters are now going to back Trump.

But the majority will because of RFK

That's not happening and we both know it.

Ohh, that is happening.

https://www.youtube.com/live/Ju4ff_Ud99A?si=1dqB2uL3roVrWKp5

-6 ( +1 / -7 )

Blacklabel

And thus further alienated Trump from the non-cult electorate.

does it? Or do we get RFKs 5% of voters?

Of course not. That should be pretty obvious.

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So on this thread;

Bass has 28 posts and Black 13 (so far)....

And not one of those posts can answer a very simple question that goes to the heart of both the topic of the article and Trump and RFK Jr's "brand"...

Trump said he led a "medical miracle" in developing the COVID vaccine - and assured all Americans that it "was safe and it works - and all of his supporters should take it"

RFK Jr has the direct opposite view - he is a full-in vaccine skeptic and thinks the vaccine was a "hoax on the American people by the pharmaceutical industry" - and that is is "dangerous" and should "never be taken"

And when asked multiple times who is correct, our MAGA-posters decide to take the coward's way out and hide and cower...

It just shows how empty MAGA-world is - and their acknowledgement of its defeat...

8 ( +9 / -1 )

Imagine being this huge of a D-bag AND wrong all the time?

awww thanks I’m flattered.

”only Rasmussen” is wrong. There were 3 others.

left suddenly acting like RFK didn’t have 5% of the national vote and more in some swing states when he just dropped out and endorsed Trump.

What would make you think that diehard RFK supporters wouldn’t follow his lead suddenly any more?

-8 ( +2 / -10 )

Of course not. That should be pretty obvious.

Exactly, and that's what it can't comprehend, what it can't answer. If all of RFK's voters were going to vote for Trump, then why hasn't a decrease in RFK support led to an increase in Trump support? That's what they sadly can't answer, so it ducks and dodges.

4 ( +6 / -2 )

Bass has 28 posts and Black 13 (so far)....

And not one of those posts can answer a very simple question that goes to the heart of both the topic of the article and Trump and RFK Jr's "brand"...

Because we want to focus on the issues the left refuses to talk about, digging up and re-hashing old lib talking points for your one-side humor helps no one, definitely not the discussion

It just shows how empty MAGA-world is - and their acknowledgement of its defeat...

What defeat? No defeat. Let's talk about real topics that most Americans want to talk about. 

The economy, crime, illegals, the border, inflation, food costs, funding Israel.

-3 ( +4 / -7 )

Imagine being this huge of a D-bag AND wrong all the time?

D-stands for Democrats, you are not getting any arguments from me on that one. LOL

-6 ( +4 / -10 )

And not one of those posts can answer a very simple question that goes to the heart of both the topic of the article and Trump and RFK Jr's "brand"...

Nothing compared to the weeks I have been waiting for you or any of your buddies to give a list of Kamala's policies.

-8 ( +2 / -10 )

What would make you think that diehard RFK supporters wouldn’t follow his lead suddenly any more?

Because that hasn't been the trend, duh.

4 ( +7 / -3 )

Nothing compared to the weeks I have been waiting for you or any of your buddies to give a list of Kamala's policies.

Go look them up yourself.

4 ( +7 / -3 )

then why hasn't a decrease in RFK support led to an increase in Trump support? 

the remaining 5% will. Those are the die hards, who will reward Trump with their vote for giving their guy a voice that the Democrats silenced.

Example:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/comedian-rob-schneider-urges-fellow-rfk-supporters-vote-trump-slams-democrats-scathing-message

the decrease from his previous 10% was double haters of Biden and Trump. Who fell for the incessant kamala media hype. That’s her +5 these days, and all of her 1-4 point “lead” in some polls.

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Bass has 28 posts and Black 13 (so far)....

And not one of those posts can answer a very simple question that goes to the heart of both the topic of the article and Trump and RFK Jr's "brand"...

Because we want to focus on the issues the left refuses to talk about, digging up and re-hashing old lib talking points for your one-side humor helps no one, definitely not the discussion

One's your candidate and the other is now supporting him - and they have diametrically opposed views on the vaccine. One thinks its safe, the other thinks its poison. So once again, who is correct and who do you believe?

It just shows how empty MAGA-world is - and their acknowledgement of its defeat...

What defeat? No defeat. Let's talk about real topics that most Americans want to talk about. 

The economy, crime, illegals, the border, inflation, food costs, funding Israel.

Death? Poison? A giant hoax by the pharmaceutical industry that resulted in thousands of unnecessary deaths?

4 ( +6 / -2 )

Go look them up yourself.

Have and there are none but you said Trump has zero policies. Go figure!

-5 ( +3 / -8 )

the remaining 5% will.

Because why? Because you need them to? Yeah, I'm not buying that. I'm not buying that pro-choice, pro-environment people are now going to be back trump. It's absurd. Furthermore, RFK was backed by the same people backed by Trunk for a reason, and it was to take votes away from the Democrats.

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