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What's the old saying at pub closing time? "You don't have to go home but you can't stay here."

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theyve had their say, 80% of NZ already vaxxed vast majority of NZ is vaxxed.

so time to move so the majority of NZ can get back to work. a small minority will never dictate what the majority want in a proper democracy

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Looks like every town in NZ is missing it's weed dealer.

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Well done, New Zealand Police. Thank you for removing the violent, dangerous, thieving trespassers from our city's streets. Now hopefully students and staff from nearby schools and businesses can return, without having to worry about being harassed or assaulted.

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It's now time for the cops to remove the trash from the Parliament grounds. They should also take the tents down, too.

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They Should remove the politicians while they're at it!

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Can't wait for this pandemic to be over. This antivaxx nonsense has become tiresome and tedious.

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The kiwis learned from Canada. Move in, take out the fools, then disperse. Canada was under a state of emergency for three days. Long enough to send the fools home.

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They Should remove the politicians while they're at it!

The politicians democratically elected by the majority of the people of New Zealand? Big call.

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The kiwis learned from Canada.

Can we borrow your horses?

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Can we borrow your horses?

I'm sure they would be happy to lend them to you.

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It's all happening on stuff.co.nz's live stream at the moment. The police are moving into the grounds taking down the tents, and the protesters are attacking them with fire extinguishers.

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. a small minority will never dictate what the majority want in a proper democracy

60% can not vote the rights of 40% away.

Human Rights can not be taken away even my majority vote.

Sorry, but the rights of minorities must be respected.

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Sad, but hardly unexpected. The other day the NZ court struck down the vaccine mandate for police and the military.

Is this the government's revenge?

Ardern is nothing but a WEF puppet.

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They are going in strong right now.

Watch live here:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300529966/live-riot-police-rush-into-parliament-grounds-as-protesters-ignore-calls-to-leave

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60% can not vote the rights of 40% away.

You're right, inalienable human rights cannot be voted away.

Human Rights can not be taken away even my majority vote.

That's correct, inalienable human rights cannot be taken away by a majority vote.

Are you suggesting that the kiwis have voted to take away some inalienable human right? If so, how exactly?

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Riot police move in on New Zealand anti-vax protest

No, Riot police move in on New Zealand pro-choice protest

. a small minority will never dictate what the majority want in a proper democracy

If someone wants to get the "vaccine", the unvaxxed will not stop them...

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Sad, but hardly unexpected.

Of course it's expected - a minority of anarchists cannot be allowed to take over the day to day operations of a nation. You get the right to protest, not to harm.

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Is this the government's revenge?

Ardern is nothing but a WEF puppet.

Did you not learn the other day? Ardern has no say in police procedural matters.

"Ultimately, because of the separation that we have to have between politicians and police, those will always be decisions for him [Police Commissioner Andrew Coster]", (Ardern) said. Today.

The cops are simply (and finally) removing the unlawful occupiers from the streets of Wellington, where they have been disrupting the city and terrorising the people for the past three weeks.

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Made their point, go home. Nobody cares except the dude in the tent next to you whois probably taking almost as many different prescription drugs as you for various health complaints. And eating sugar coated food but getting a vaccine is a step too far.

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The "peaceful protesters" have now set fire to a tent, and then attacked the police officers who attempted to put it out, endangering the lives of the police and the other "peaceful protesters." I wonder who set it? An anti-Semite? A sex offender? A patched gang member? A violent offender? A covid-spreader? A white supremacist? All of whom have been documented as attending the "peaceful protest." I hope they aren't still using their kids as shields from the police as they have been doing the entire time.

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I forgot to say that they threw gas bottles on the fire as the police rushed in there with fire extinguishers.

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They Should remove the politicians while they're at it!

why Adern won the last election easily, and while her approval has dropped, her party is still 8 points higher in the preferred party polls

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Sorry, but the rights of minorities must be respected.

only when their rights dont infringe on the majorities rights.

the reason for the protest is vaccine mandates, for workers in the highest risk groups, that is people that work close with the public all day. this isnt a blanket mandate, still plenty of jobs that dont require vaccinations. The minority of antivaxxers working in these fields dont get to infringe on rights of others health

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They Should remove the politicians while they're at it!

The above another anti-democracy/pro-authoritarian's dream, how's that authoritarianism working out for ordinary Russian citizens, i.e. those who are not oligarchs or other's in the despot Putin's circle.

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@Jeans and T-shirt It is a sad day for NZ. The police will many peoples respect and the ego of the current Prime Minister will continue until next election. The initial fire btw, was started by the police.

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Wow, that anti-vaxxer “look” appears to be universal.

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So the more than 80% of New Zealanders who got jabbed did so due to goodwill? Slow initial uptake due to multiple side effects being reported, and then a rapid uptake towards the deadline of the "no jab no job" mandates before losing their ability to feed their families? Just stop. You are deluding yourself if you think it was due to goodwill.

To remove someone's livelihood that they have invested their lives into for refusing Covid vaccination, without back-up financial support, essentially makes that vaccination mandatory.

And to the laughable "white supremacist" accusations here, watch the livestream and you'll see the majority of the crowd are Māori. First they lose their land, and now they're being told what they have to put into their bodies. This isn't THEIR New Zealand.

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At its peak, about 3,000 people were camped outside parliament, but numbers have dwindled to a hardcore of about 300 in the past week.

The creme de la creme

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Bronco

60% can not vote the rights of 40% away.

Human Rights can not be taken away even my majority vote.

Sorry, but the rights of minorities must be respected.

Correct. I wholeheartedly agree. But nobody's rights are affected here.

prionking

Sad, but hardly unexpected. The other day the NZ court struck down the vaccine mandate for police and the military.

Is this the government's revenge?

No. This isn't an act of government. It's an act of the police.

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Steve

@Jeans and T-shirt It is a sad day for NZ

No it's not.

They have been illegally abusing the businesses and residents of that area for long enough. I live in Wellington and work from home, but I feel for the people who live there and the businesses that have had to close to protect their staff or suffer maskless, abusive protesters in their shops.

New Zealand is going through it's Omicron surge at the moment. These disrespectful people need to go home.

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The initial fire btw, was started by the police.

LOL. I was waiting for that one. Nope, you could see it on the live stream. The police hadn't secured that area when the fire started. And no amount of carefully edited shaky cam video from the criminals on Parliament grounds will show otherwise. They then threw mattresses and gas bottles on it to spread it. When they weren't throwing acid, bottles, chairs and human excrement at the police that is. Since then they've lit another 3 fires or so, and are threatening to burn down the nearby law school.

And to the laughable "white supremacist" accusations here, watch the livestream and you'll see the majority of the crowd are Māori. First they lose their land, and now they're being told what they have to put into their bodies. This isn't THEIR New Zealand.

No-one said the white supremacists were in the majority. And the Maori have been pleading with the government to better allocate resources and funding to Maori and to extend lockdowns to protect their vulnerable communities since the beginning of the pandemic. Suddenly, it's too much, I guess.

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Jay

So the more than 80% of New Zealanders who got jabbed did so due to goodwill? Slow initial uptake due to multiple side effects being reported,

Not true at all. There was slow uptake because covid had been eliminated in NZ, people didn't see the rush. Vaccination rates surged when Delta came and everybody wanted to protect themselves.

To remove someone's livelihood that they have invested their lives into for refusing Covid vaccination, without back-up financial support, essentially makes that vaccination mandatory.

It's unfortunate, but if you work in healthcare, your job is to look after the health of your patients - and you will be in contact with many of them. So basically you can't do your job as a healthcare worker if you aren't vaccinated.

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PTownsendToday  12:35 pm JST

They Should remove the politicians while they're at it!

The above another anti-democracy/pro-authoritarian's dream, how's that authoritarianism working out for ordinary Russian citizens, i.e. those who are not oligarchs or other's in the despot Putin's circle.

Seems to be working pretty well in NZ and Canada……..

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@2020hindsights Not unless you have been only getting your info from MSM. The protest has been relatively peaceful until today

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Yes, there’s one than one Putin out there, although most of them are only a little laughable copy like in this case. They should be stopped too anyway. The enemy are those corona viruses, not the own population or a few mislead or less educated anti-vaxxers who just don’t have sufficient scientific background!

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Jacinda?

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Steve

@2020hindsights Not unless you have been only getting your info from MSM. The protest has been relatively peaceful until today

And the protesters have generally been abusive and disrespectful.

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@Jeans and T-shirt

Which live stream? MSM? Please tell me where I can see that footage, because it makes no sense for the protesters to light a fire. The police on the other hand had a motive to do so.

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Steve

@Jeans and T-shirt

Which live stream? MSM? Please tell me where I can see that footage, because it makes no sense for the protesters to light a fire. The police on the other hand had a motive to do so.

Multiple fires were burning as police cleared the campsite, including the Parliament playground.

Protesters were fuelling the fires by throwing rubbish, tents, and LPG bottles on them.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300529966/live-we-will-not-be-defined-by-this-pm-says-as-riot-police-battle-with-protesters-for-parliament-grounds

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@2020hindsights I completely agree. People were fueling the fires, and there were multiple fires ground the ground. My point is that the original one was started by the police and they also incited the whole violence to start.

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As usual, the headline is dishonest. They're anti-mandate protestors, not anti-vaxx protestors. No trust in the media has plummeted.

And if anyone thinks the NZ government didn't at the very least "suggest" to the police what they should do, they're a bit naive. This happens regularly, ostensible democracy or not. During the Occupy protests a decade ago the lord mayor of Melbourne asked the cops to go in and clean out the city square to ensure the protestors would be out of the way before the Queen arrived.

It happens in the other direction too, like s when politicians such as governors and mayors in the US got the cops to stand down during the BLM riots.

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this is how "democracy" looks like,Jacinda are you happy...?

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And if anyone thinks the NZ government didn't at the very least "suggest" to the police what they should do, they're a bit naive. This happens regularly, ostensible democracy or not. During the Occupy protests a decade ago the lord mayor of Melbourne asked the cops to go in and clean out the city square to ensure the protestors would be out of the way before the Queen arrived.

Is Melbourne in New Zealand is it? These keep getting better and better.

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prionking

As usual, the headline is dishonest. They're anti-mandate protestors, not anti-vaxx protestors. No trust in the media has plummeted.

If you look at the signs, these guys are predominantly anti-vax.

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@Jeans and T-shirt I am not denying there was violence from those at Parliament.. I saw the people picking up paving stones (bricks) to throw at the police. The Police however, incited the violence today, and unless you can point me to some footage that says otherwise, I will continue to believe that the police started the initial fire.

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Is Melbourne in New Zealand is it? These keep getting better and better.

Nice try. I'm simply pointing out that the separation of powers is often disregarded by governments that claim to be democratic when it suits their agenda regardless of the location. If you don't think this happens, and did happen in this instance, I'm not the one being naive.

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Nice try. I'm simply pointing out that the separation of powers is often disregarded by governments that claim to be democratic when it suits their agenda regardless of the location. If you don't think this happens, and did happen in this instance, I'm not the one being naive.

Yeah, after three weeks she suddenly decided she wanted the occupiers gone, after consistently saying it was a matter for the police. And an example from a decade ago in another country doesn't make your point. You're boxing at shadows, mate.

The Police however, incited the violence today, and unless you can point me to some footage that says otherwise, I will continue to believe that the police started the initial fire.

Standard crowd control. The occupiers have been free to leave at any time for the past three weeks. As for the fire, believe what you want but it was filmed live. The police line was a good 5-10 metres back from where it started. Could have been an overturned gas burner or something, but that shouldn't have been there in the first place, if so.

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@Jeans and T-shirt I believe that the police knocked over a gas burning, but it was them. Again, point me to the footage. Today's behavior went beyond mere crowd control. The police brutality (and Jacinda and her government) will not look good once this has all blown over.

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Steve

@Jeans and T-shirt I believe that the police knocked over a gas burning, but it was them. Again, point me to the footage.

So you believe that the police knocked it over but you haven't seen the evidence? Ok.

Today's behavior went beyond mere crowd control.

It was crowd eviction from grounds and went remarkably well and as peaceful as could be expected.

The police brutality (and Jacinda and her government) will not look good once this has all blown over.

Brutality? Seriously?

And what has Jacinda got to do with a police action?

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2020hindsights Didn't say that, but Jeans and T-Shirt was saying otherwise, so was asking where they go that. As mentioned above, if you seriously believe that there is separation between the police and prime minister, then you are pretty naive . Also, you don't call kicking a woman while she is down, brutality? We all saw what the police are capable of at the start of this protest.

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Steve

As mentioned above, if you seriously believe that there is separation between the police and prime minister, then you are pretty naive 

Evidence please.

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Again, point me to the footage. 

If you don't believe me, you don't believe me. It was on stuff's live stream and it started in occupier controlled space. Given that they started all of the subsequent fires, including the one that burned down the government installed, $500,000 children's playground, it's pretty obvious who started the initial fire.

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Today's behavior went beyond mere crowd control.

You're right. Once the occupiers started attacking the police with fire extinguishers, pitchforks, bricks, bats, bottles, chairs and fires, it turned into riot control.

If you think police's behaviour at the start wasn't mere crowd control you've obviously never been in an unruly crowd. They form a line and advance, yelling 'move.' They didn't even use batons today. Not that I saw, anyway.

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this great example how liberal "democracy" looks like.

Jacinda its time to pack,get out and leave your job for someone more capable than you!

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