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It doesn't matter how badly Obama bombs in the debates, he's got too much charisma to lose the election.

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A house built on a foundation of sand...and great was the fall thereof. The real Obama will likewise be washed away, like in November when the sands in the hour glass (=spending of our money) are finally vanquished.

http://p.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/sep/1/rains-wash-away-mount-obama/

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Poor Mitt. One would think he'd be intelligent enough to run a smart race; in fact, he probably is, but he is hemmed in by reality, and reality dictates that he run the race that he is.

The GOP convention is over without so much as a hint at policy. What they offered was broad platitudes and sharp but vague condemnation of Obama. What this means is that they have left defining their strategy and its relationship to the Democrats. This is ironic as they made the same Faustian bargain with the character of Romney itself.

Expect the Democratic convention to be very specific regarding policy, both that offered by the Democrats and that hinted at (threatened?) by the GOP. GOP unicorns and rainbows will be replaced by the ramifications of what losses to specific programs will mean and how taxes on the middle class will be raised.

This campaign is only beginning. Again, ironically, Romney does not want it to be based on facts, despite the poor results of the past three years; he wants it to be based on emotion. It is the job of the Democrats during this convention to alert Americans to the facts.

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Seems like the ramblings of an 81-year-old actor captured more attention from the press and conservatives than the speech of candidate Mitt himself.

That's not surprising since candidate Mitt treated his supporters to nothing more than a candy floss description of his plans. 

Candidate Mitt appears to have decided that the common conservative people don't need to know the details.

Candidate Mitt appears to have decided all he needs do is tell the common conservative people to vote for him without saying why.

And the common conservative people probably will - without demanding details or asking for Mitt's plans.

Competent conservatives need to demand more from Mitt.

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Laguna - "What this means is that they have left defining their strategy and its relationship to the Democrats."

Excellent point.

I thought the GOP's plan was to be nice at the RNC and then send their operatives, handlers and money bundlers out to disseminate policy detail post-RNC.

Problem with that is it's only a piecemeal approach.

Mitt and co. had the chance to tell the entire nation their policies during the RNC.

They blew it bigtime.

President Barack HUSSEIN Obama - the Community Organizer - has been successfully defining Mitt is for months and it's been working.

Mitt's been on the back foot ever since.

This strategy blunder is just more piece of evidence pointing to the GOP's plan to throw his election and sit it put until 2016.

But by that stage, Hillary Clinton will probably be on the Dem ticket and blow the GOP out of the water again.

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@Lizz

Thanks for that link. Man, that photo defines the word creepy.

Actually, the democrats could save a lot of money by moving their convention over to Thomasville, NC. They already have a monument built in Obama's honor:

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/10009044

RR

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First debate Oct. 1st and Mitt has to really,really start concentrating.

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Nice try Romeo, but you got nowhere.

Probably the biggest weakness of the GOP/TP now is their empty chair of policy.

It's a vacuum.

What do they plan to do?

As I said, competent conservatives will ask questions.

The others......

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Mitt is preparing himself for good reason -- he's got zero policy outlines and now that he's made so many promises to save the nation and what not he needs time to make up lies and excuses as to why he has no idea about how he's going to do what he says.

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The first debate is October 1st.

That gives Mitt and his handlers exactly 4 weeks to start thinking up what their policies are and how - exactly - they plan to achieve/implement them.

Because Mitt will be grilled. 

Well, that's unless he continues his campaign practice of refusing to take any un-vetted questions from reporters.

Interesting too, to see there was no convention bounce for the Republicans.

This much was obvious the day Mitt announced Paul Ryan was on the ticket.

Republicans/conservatives would do better for themselves by beliebing in Justin Bieber than in Mitt Romney. But Justin's probably too smart to be a Republican.  :-)

 

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What are voters going to say when Ryan and Mitt unveil they plan to gut the ever-popular MediCare?

How will voters react to the GOP's plan to ban abortion in all cases in the name of freedom?

And how will the GOP convince the middle class that the party has its best interests at heart when the GOP's plan is to gut critical social and support programs and hand the money to The Elites on gold plated trays?

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So the R lack any policies, while Mr. Soetoro has his:

Bring the national debt to +$20T by 2016

Yes it pays to have plans

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Obama will do just fine.. He will sell a car with "engine" that will run great unlike Romney/Ryan. Good luck to President Obama.

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<<What are voters going to say when Ryan and Mitt unveil they plan to gut the ever-popular MediCare?

Do not worry. More and more seniors are with Obama. As a matter of fact, the Rep. booth (Romney/Ryan) in front of Safeway store in my neighborhood was asked to leave. AARP, American Medical Society, American Nursing Society are all with Obama. Romney/Ryan team does not want to talk about Medicare at all.

Romney has not produced his income tax returns as he promised. Romney/Ryan have to explain about their political records in the past on abortion issues. It is getting more interesting. Rush Limbaugh is now splitting his hairs on these issues. I have just listen to Karl Rove's interview , he is getting crazy every day.

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Now, you can misrepresent, you can play with the facts, you can even lie in a way that tangents with possible truth - Americans tend to give bonus points for creativity.

You may not lie about your marathon time.

My fastest time was 3:36; I was twelve years old and still remember it clear as daylight.

Ryan apparently ran a bit over four hours and claimed it as "a two hour fifty-something."

This is not something one forgets; this is not something one misspeaks about. This is a baldfaced lie.

If the Ryan will lie about the time of the only marathon he's ever run, what else will he lie about? (Answer: pretty much everything.)

The Mitt/Paul team just pissed off a very important demographic.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/01/paul-ryan-marathon-time_n_1848715.html

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This NYT article really should be pointed out as an inevitable consequence:

Republican lawmakers and candidates are distancing themselves from the Ryan budget plan, which helped make the proposed changes a national issue. Republicans say the party now belongs to the more senior — and historically more malleable — member of the ticket, Mr. Romney, and not Mr. Ryan, the younger conservative firebrand who has become the subject of repeated Democratic criticism.

"...historically more malleable" - that is hilariously accurate! To support this:

“The plan is the Romney plan,” said Senator John Hoeven, Republican of North Dakota. “He’s the one that’s going to drive the agenda.”

Ah! The "Romney plan!" I am sure you all have heard about this: he will balance the budget, cut taxes, create a zillion jobs, increase Pentagon spending, and save Social Security and Medicare simultaneously! How? Sorry: trade secret. Details, though, will be leaked at the Democratic National Convention.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/01/us/politics/republican-troops-keeping-ryans-budget-plan-at-arms-length.html?_r=1

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"Mitt will be grilled ( in the debates )"

Heh heh, and Obama will be toasted.

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Heh, under Paul Ryan's budget plan, the U.S. budget would be balanced.

Hey! By 2040.

Based on wildly optimistic slash unrealistic conditions, most of which he has completely failed to provide detail on.

Details. 

Mitt Romney's convention speech was also devoid of them.  What are conservatives going to be voting for if their elected leaders won't come up with the goods?

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Ummm....To the folks attacking Romney's acceptance speech as lacking specific policy details.

Nomination Acceptance speeches are not detailed policy speeches. No Presidential nominee ever from either Party has made an acceptance speech that included specific policy details. The speech is nothing more than a broad outline of their vision for the country.

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sailwind: So what's the excuse for the rest of the time Romney and Ryan fail to explain how they are going to do things?

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sailwind: So what's the excuse for the rest of the time Romney and Ryan fail to explain how they are going to do things?

Media doesn't really report on it. It's too busy repeating Obama's campaign talking points. Tax returns, Tax returns, Bain, Bain, Bain etc.

Here's his detailed Foreign policy speech.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/10/07/text-of-mitt-romneys-speech-on-foreign-policy-at-the-citadel/

Here's his detailed Energy policy speech.

http://www.whatthefolly.com/2012/08/24/transcript-mitt-romney-presents-energy-plan-in-new-mexico/

I would suspect he'll do a detailed economic policy speech after the Democratic convention. Because that is when the country really starts paying attention to the election and the choices before them.

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Smith, Mitt and his henchmen have a plan.

It's just that it's based on Paul Ryan's draconian economic plan.

If they actually campaign on what's in it, they know full well they'll be gifting the election to the Democrats.

So they're in a bit of a quandary at the moment.

It's like The Plan We Can't Talk About...

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Yep, the GOP's plan will cripple the middle class, bury seniors, strip rights of American women to decide their reproductive options, throw students under the bus, pull critical infrastructure funding, scare away immigrants, strip critical environmental research funds and actions necessary to mitigate climate change, and could very well lead to an attacks on Iran and Syria that will send the deficit rocketing even further through the stratosphere.

But the GOP and conservatives really, REALLY love America...! 

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Yep, the GOP's plan will cripple the middle class, bury seniors, strip rights of American women to decide their reproductive options, throw students under the bus, pull critical infrastructure funding, scare away immigrants, strip critical environmental research funds and actions necessary to mitigate climate change, and could very well lead to an attacks on Iran and Syria that will send the deficit rocketing even further through the stratosphere.

I hear also along with this total chaos and destruction that their proposals will also cause acne to increase in those awkward teenage dating years.

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Sail, thanks for posting those 2 Mitt Romney policy speeches.

I read the foreign policy one - here's what people need to know:

A/ Mitt on why America is "exceptional": "because we are a nation founded on a precious idea that was birthed in the American Revolution, and propounded by our greatest statesmen, in our fundamental documents. We are a people who threw off the yoke of tyranny and established a government, in Abraham Lincoln’s words, “of the people, by the people, and for the people."

Many countries have done that.

Mitt: "As President, on Day One, I will focus on rebuilding America’s economy.  I will reverse President Obama’s massive defense cuts.

Ok. So, having the world's strongest military isn't good enough? And they weren't  "President Obama’s massive defense cuts" - the defense cut were part of the sequestration process that REPUBLICANS ALSO VOTED FOR.

Mitt: First, American foreign policy must be prosecuted with clarity and resolve. 

Cliche. No detail whatsoever.

Mitt: Second, America must promote open markets, representative government, and respect for human rights."

US governments hace been doing that for decades. Nothing new here. Next......

Mitt:  Third, the United States will apply the full spectrum of hard and soft power to influence events before they erupt into conflict.

Straight from president Obama's current strategy playbook.

Mitt: Fourth, the United States will exercise leadership in multilateral organizations and alliances.

It already does and has done for years until bUsh went and screwed things up with NATO when he cooked up the coalition oF tHe wILlInG.

Mitt:  I will reverse the hollowing of our Navy and announce an initiative to increase the shipbuilding rate from 9 per year to 15.  I will begin reversing Obama-era cuts to national missile defense and prioritize the full deployment of a multilayered national ballistic missile defense system. 

Even when countries reject it? 

Mitt: I will order the formulation of a national cybersecurity strategy, to deter and defend against the growing threats of militarized cyber-attacks, cyber-terrorism, and cyber-espionage.

Ehrr...Mitt, president Obama's already done that.

So weak. It's like Mitt's been hibernating since the late 20th century.

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So, Mitt Romney's foreign policy strategy can essentially be summarized as follows:

1/ more of the same. 2/ create agencies that president Obama has already created.  3/ zero new or creative ideas. 4/ increase the Navy shipbuilding rate from 9 per year to 15.  

Anybody want me to critique Mitt's energy policy?

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sailwind: You miss the point; Romney and Ryan have made HEAPS of promises they cannot possibly keep, but the point is that they have never said HOW they plan to keep them anyway.

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It's becoming increasingly clear that Mitt and the GOP's strategy is to wing it and string things out as long as possible without ever going into detail about their destructive anti-America, anti-women, anti-student/seniors, anti-environment policies.

They're informed enough to know their chances will go the way of the Titanic as soon as Americans hear the nuts and bolts of their policies.

So, the GOP isn't simply not being straight with the American people, the GOP is also treating the entire U.S. population as a bunch of idiots who can be fooled.

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I like this quote - writer, American, unknown:

It is as if people have short memories and dont remember that 4 years ago the American economy collapsed. There is no way Romney and Ryan would have managed to do what Obama has had to do.The Democrats have had to fight to keep us from gong through another Great depression. 700,000 jobs a month were being lost, the housing and financial markets had crashed. The economy has not grown as fast as any of us would liked but it is growing. Obama has created more jobs than Bush and recovered most of the millions of jobs lost during the recession. Unemployment remains high because of Congress not passing any new jobs bills and infrastructure bills. The middle class has seen tax deductions while Romney wants the middle class to shoulder more of the burden while his rich backers get tax cuts.

American companies are sitting on trillions in cash and the stock market and Wall street have rebounded. Most of us will benefit from the Healthcare law and the Fair pay act. Students have received additional help with their grants and loans, something that Romney wants to stop.

Obama ended 1 war in Iraq that was costing billions and is now ending the second illegal war in Afghanistan. Obama has been a foreign affairs hawk and has kept this country safe, he made the critical decision to finally get Bin Laden and hit Al-queda hard.

He has done this with no help form the Republicans and Boehner.

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@Laguna

The GOP convention is over without so much as a hint at policy. What they offered was broad platitudes and sharp but vague condemnation of Obama. What this means is that they have left defining their strategy and its relationship to the Democrats. This is ironic as they made the same Faustian bargain with the character of Romney itself.

Funny, how you liberals think that Conservatives are beating up poor, poor Obama with no reason, he's trying so hard. First of all, how much time do you have? Going in and talking about the massive failures of this grossly negligent President has done nothing more than make Obama the absolute laughing stock of the world.

Expect the Democratic convention to be very specific regarding policy, both that offered by the Democrats and that hinted at (threatened?) by the GOP. GOP unicorns and rainbows will be replaced by the ramifications of what losses to specific programs will mean and how taxes on the middle class will be raised.

I expect Obama to do the following:

exacerbate the point of "We're almost there, hang in there with me a little longer."

Blame Bush, blame Bush, blame Bush, blame Bush, blame Bush, blame Bush, blame Bush

Promise to bring the unemployment down and focus on Private Sector jobs

Tell us that the time for divisiveness is over and Repubs and Dems must work together

saying that "better times are ahead"

saying that he'll focus more on "green energy"

And trying to spoon feed us that Obamacare is THE best thing since Cotton candy!

The same old boring bla, bla, bla Obama spin that we all have grown and known to cringe when we hear about it.

I will watch it, only because I want to see the wack nutjobs at the MS National Barack Channel and see how elated they become when Obama speaks, especially Mr. Tingles. Get the popcorn out.

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"You may not lie about your marathon time... This is not something one misspeaks about. This is a baldfaced lie"

Obama: "My Muslim faith"

Interviewer: "Your Christian faith"

Obama: "My Christian faith"

Definitely not something one misspeaks about either, eh? A baldfaced lie? Heh heh

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Something about the GOP's attack on ObamaCare -

Contrary to shameless mstruths circulated by Mitch McConnell, Obamacare will not cut $500 billion from Medicare, nor will it add one penny to the $11.6 trillion deficit Obama inherited from Bush. The truth Republicans don’t want you to know about Obamacare: (1) seniors receive $6.1 billion in prescription drug savings, (2) 18 million children remain insured until age 26, (3) 49 million gain access to preventive care, (4) 2.6 million jobs created, (5) 69 million can’t be denied benefits due to a pre-existing condition, (6) due to generous tax credits, 4.6 million small business employees covered, (7) 22 million receive $762 million in rebates (insurers must now spend 80% of every premium dollar for medical care; before, it was 30% for care and 70% for CEO salaries and bogus administrative costs), (8) coverage can’t be cancel due to illness, (9) can’t charge women more than men or arbitrarily increase premiums without justification, (10) no lifetime benefit limits, and (11) states get help to expand Medicaid (first 3 years, feds pay 100%, then 90%).

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Poor poor Romney. In '08 McCain had an RCP average (that's an amalgamation of all major polls) that showed him beating Obama by a full 3 points after the convention.

After this convention Romney only came a step shy of a tie with Obama, and it's the best he's done yet, and the best he can ever hope for.

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@Sushi

It is as if people have short memories and dont remember that 4 years ago the American economy collapsed.

People have good memories how the economy collapsed and how Obama is just NOW adding the final touches on his destroy America tour.

There is no way Romney and Ryan would have managed to do what Obama has had to do.

What? Rack up a $4.7 Trillion debt? And still adding to that. Yep, there is NO way!

The Democrats have had to fight to keep us from gong through another Great depression. 700,000 jobs a month were being lost, the housing and financial markets had crashed.

Thank Chris Dodd, Barney Frank for that, and In 2003, The White House called Fannie and Freddie a “systemic risk” and the Republican Bush administration pushed Congress to enact new regulations. Also in 2003, Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., said Fannie and Freddie are “not in a crisis,” and bashed Republican-sponsored regulation legislation. In 2005, Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan voiced warning over F&F accounting, saying, “We are placing the total financial system of the future at a substantial risk.” In addition in 2005, Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said he thinks F&F “over the years have done an incredibly good job and are an intrinsic part of making America the best-housed people in the world.” In 2006, Sen. John McCain, again called for reform of the regulatory structure that governs F&F. And again Democrats blocked reform legislation. In 2008, the housing market collapsed; Democrats blamed the Republicans.

The economy has not grown as fast as any of us would liked but it is growing.

As far as debt is concerned, absolutely correct! Can't argue with you there.

Obama has created more jobs than Bush and recovered most of the millions of jobs lost during the recession. Unemployment remains high because of Congress not passing any new jobs bills and infrastructure bills. The middle class has seen tax deductions while Romney wants the middle class to shoulder more of the burden while his rich backers get tax cuts.

American companies are sitting on trillions in cash and the stock market and Wall street have rebounded. Most of us will benefit from the Healthcare law and the Fair pay act. Students have received additional help with their grants and loans, something that Romney wants to stop.

This is the sole reason why Dems are bad at math and bad for the economy!

Obama ended 1 war in Iraq that was costing billions and is now ending the second illegal war in Afghanistan.

You mean the war that Obama said, was the real war to fight and concentrated all our forces over there Bush already started to wind the war down in 2007, so Obama took the reigns, but thinks he should get all the credit when Bush already started paving way and getting everything ready for Obama. I don't hear a Thank you anywhere in there.

Obama has been a foreign affairs hawk and has kept this country safe, he made the critical decision to finally get Bin Laden and hit Al-queda hard.

Thanks to Bush, he sure has!

He has done this with no help form the Republicans and Boehner.

ROFL, I like Tequila as well, but......

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@Sushi

anti-American to the core.

You're not even American, so why are you concerned?

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Poor poor Romney. In '08 McCain had an RCP average (that's an amalgamation of all major polls) that showed him beating Obama by a full 3 points after the convention.

Yes, Palin sure made a difference at that time.

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@Laguna

The GOP convention is over without so much as a hint at policy. What they offered was broad platitudes and sharp but vague condemnation of Obama. What this means is that they have left defining their strategy and its relationship to the Democrats. This is ironic as they made the same Faustian bargain with the character of Romney itself.

Funny, how you liberals think that Conservatives are beating up poor, poor Obama with no reason, he's trying so hard. First of all, how much time do you have? Going in and talking about the massive failures of this grossly negligent President has done nothing more than make Obama the absolute laughing stock of the world.

Expect the Democratic convention to be very specific regarding policy, both that offered by the Democrats and that hinted at (threatened?) by the GOP. GOP unicorns and rainbows will be replaced by the ramifications of what losses to specific programs will mean and how taxes on the middle class will be raised.

@bass4funk, well all political analysts and we are still confused about Romney's specific plans, sounds like you have received a clear message from Romney's speech. Please tell us what he said specifically to the points. You can tell us all, right? Looking forward to hearing from you, bass4funk. You take it over and keep it civil to the point..

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Problem is, bass, America's influence is currently such that the rest of the world has to be very, very wary regarding who's in the White House. At least with Obama, we know the miltary's unlikely to do anything particularly stupid or evil; with Romney, who knows?

To basically, mico-analzye your point, hypothetically the US is called out to help or we might have to involve ourselves or we could be attacked, any of these scenarios and you make that kind of psycho comment? All I have when I hear crap like that is: Jimmy Carter! No, thank you. Who cares what Europeans think or feel whoever occupies the White House is the problem of the American people and NOT of bunch of spineless, cowardly liberals. So NO, I want a President that is strong on defense, doesn't care what anyone thinks, doesn't apologize for being American and doesn't bow to appease or foes, friends and allies! I'll stick with the Republican brand. Thank you.

Anyway, give it ten years and nobody'll be the slightest bit concerned. We'll all be looking to Beijing, Brasilia and Istanbul.

So you think, China or Brazil and Turkey will involve itself in ANY hypothetical conflicts to help the world or countries, if there is a potential threat? It'll never, ever happen, funny dream, but no dice.

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@global

well all political analysts and we are still confused about Romney's specific plans, sounds like you have received a clear message from Romney's speech. Please tell us what he said specifically to the points. You can tell us all, right? Looking forward to hearing from you, bass4funk. You take it over and keep it civil to the point..

Sure, after you tell me, where and the name of your city, I will be happy to do so. You gonna hit that ball or what? ;-)

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@bass

I want a President that ... doesn't care what anyone thinks....

That says it all.

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@lucra

It sure does, loud and clear!

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@bass

So you think, China or Brazil and Turkey will involve itself in ANY hypothetical conflicts to help the world or countries, if there is a potential threat? It'll never, ever happen, funny dream, but no dice.

Seriously, though... the reason the US has intervened in so many areas of the world over the last sixty or so years is that it suited her to maintain the status quo. America was number one economically, militarily and scientifically, so any attempt to alter the world order was a threat . As China, Brazil, Turkey and Poland (not my random choice of countries; they are the future according to more than one expert) gain military and political strength, then it will become in their interests to maintain the status quo. So yes, they'll all start to get involved in "peace-keeping" activities and repress any groups actively trying to change things.

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Well, you are on many levels wrong, yes, these countries are economically are becoming more powerful and more power to them, but the hub and mecca for the financial district is in NY and it will always be. America has a few times fell into a slump and recovered and this is again one of those times, but I am not worried what a few liberal bias expert says. The US is not going anywhere, may be done for awhile, but never out for the count. But I am not worried about that at all. Having survived the Carter years, I thought that was it, end game, but we bounced back and with the proper leadership, we'll do it again, and there are many centrist experts that said the same thing.

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The refusal to live within our economic means poses the most direct challenge insofar as it impacts U.S. domestic prosperity rather than dilutes U.S. credibility as a global superpower or elevates U.S.-East Asian economic interdependence. People are worried sick about their jobs and income, and majorities think that the next generation will be worse Most Americans I think can handle still being a great nation, but no longer the leader of the world, no longer the superpower.

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@global

well all political analysts and we are still confused about Romney's specific plans, sounds like you have received a clear message from Romney's speech. Please tell us what he said specifically to the points. You can tell us all, right? Looking forward to hearing from you, bass4funk. You take it over and keep it civil to the point..

Sure, after you tell me, where and the name of your city, I will be happy to do so. You gonna hit that ball or what? ;-)

@bass4funk, I sum up the Romney's speech with dirty 4 letter wards..

"NADA" -no nothing,

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sum up the Romney's speech with dirty 4 letter wards..

"NADA" -no nothing,

LOL, that's what I thought. :-)

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@Lizz

Agreed, except for the last sentence about being a superpower.

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bass4funk, you failed, again. I do not think you really understand issues.

1))What he didn’t share were his actual proposals,

2)He would take our country backwards to 1950 Archie Bunker.

3)Extend another $5 trillion in budget-busting tax cuts for the wealthy, paid for by the middle class Americans.

4)Transforming Medicare into a voucher program on the backs of seniors that will be extra 6400 for each senior at the end. And eventually it will go bankruptcy for all Americans. No Medicare for younge generations. NADA.

5)Eliminate fuel-efficiency standards and tax credits for renewable energy including NUKE.;

6)Deep cuts in student grants and loans, maybe eliminating all at the end.

7)and the rollback of Wall Street reforms. And in an almost 45-minute speech,

8)Mitt Romney didn’t find a moment to mention Afghanistan, our troops and veterans

9)Peg $ to commodity and we lose Monetary control like EU.

10) No contribution to UN function

11)Taking us to the 2nd Great Depression

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@global

You went bit off a tangent there, but whatever. Ever going to tell me that town or what? Come on, where is this utopia of yours?

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12) We will be possibly going to another war against Iran, NK. Financial war against China. China will pull all investment in US, then we will be down graded to cradit rating of C like Greece.

13) Cannot create 12 million jobs within 48 months means 250,000 jobs/month-unattainable. .

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So because of that, you want to vote for Obama again, if you feel the way you do, then he would be the absolute last person you would want to vote for.

Still waiting an answer to my previous question, don't quit on me now, global! :-) I am very curious, what city and state are you talking about?

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Sushi: "The $11.6 trillion deficit Obama inherited from Bush"

The deficit was below $11 trillion when Obama took office, it's now nearly $16 trillion. The deficit has now increased more during the three and a half years of the Obama presidency than it did during the eight years of the Bush presidency, which saw 9/11 and wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

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bass4funkSep. 03, 2012 - 08:33AM JST

So because of that, you want to vote for Obama again, if you feel the way you do, then he would be the absolute last person you would want to vote for.

bass4funk, please tell me why he is the worst president I am voting for? Please convince me short and sweet.

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@global

please tell me why he is the worst president I am voting for? Please convince me short and sweet.

I tried to, but Serrano was quicker.

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Basically Obama threw money at the problem without making any of the necessary structural changes at the heart of what is causing low growth. The tax code is indefensible. The deficit is indefensible. Almost everyone agrees that everything is broken and we can be doing much better. So if we go in and start doing obvious fixes, then Romney can start to turn this economy around (although 12 million is a pipe dream). Short and not so sweet. We are in obvious position fiscally and employment-wise after electing a president that believes we need to not only spread the wealth domestically but wholesale dismantle America that he views as “too rich” and “too powerful” in the world today.

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bass4funkSep. 03, 2012 - 12:11PM JST

@global

please tell me why he is the worst president I am voting for? Please convince me short and sweet.

I tried to, but Serrano was quicker.

@bass4funk I can explain for that to Serrano later on that.

. I would like to hear what you think. You have been trying to convince audience here why Obama should not be re-elected, right? I would like to hear YOUR opinion. You can organize your thoughts and tell me.

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globalwatcher and bass4funk, please stop bickering. Unless you are willing to be tolerant of opposing views, then do not post here.

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I will say this, I think Obama should not be re-elected based on his job performance, do I think he's an evil man, no, I do not, it has nothing to do with Obama as a person, he might be a nice guy, I think so, I wouldn't mind talking to him, I have in some ways a lot of respect for him and his background, but having said all that, we really need strong decisive leadership and that hasn't happened under this President. I don't think he is up to the job and our debt and 8.3% unemployment he cannot get under control, so he had 4 years and nothing happened, he had his chance and to say, he's trying or he needs more time, is ridiculous. The people are tired and people want to try something new and go into a different direction. In a nutshell

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The deficit was below $11 trillion when Obama took office, it's now nearly $16 trillion. The deficit has now increased more during the three and a half years of the Obama presidency than it did during the eight years of the Bush presidency, which saw 9/11 and wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

1)) It's everybody's fault.

Economics isn't the problem. Politics is.

Everyone needs to get a real paying job instead of blaming everyone else. Everyone needs to pay a fair share for tax if everyone is receiving a benefit/value from public infrastructures. Private sector needs to invest on domestic capital spending instead of moving money to offshore and let it sit idle and moving jobs away to China. Congress (including Ryan) needs to do their job as he/she is elected to do. The Republican has been blocking 12 balancing budget acts over 12 times since Obama took office. Tell your local congressmen to get on the ball and get it done. They are wasting your tax money.

2( Obama inherited the Bush Economy with 10 trillion dollars debt. Bush Economy-Supply Side Economy has never worked. Historically, I pull my money out from the Wall Street when Republican takes office in Washington as their economic model is not based on growth. I get back in when the Democrats take office in Washington. Well, the Wall Street is doing okay now, but I will pull my money back to my hands as I can see 50% of personal wealth will be washed away if the Republicans control the Washington. Romney/Ryan team will jump on Austerity model right away.It is a wrong time to do so unless the employment drops to 6%. With 6% unemployment, then they can consider a spending cut, but not right now. It will destroy US and we are possibly heading to the Depression for sure. .

3) Obama successfully avoided worst possible 2nd Great Depression since the 1930s when Obama took office. He had to extend unemployment benefit (stimulus)/ trying to ease a pain for those who lost jobs It did not ease the pain of recession as much as he intended. The tax money (stimulus) actually went right back to tax payers for survival. Bush enacted a small stimulus in 2008 for no reason of recession.

4)Bush inherited a balanced budget with no deficit from Clinton when he took office in 2001 and left Washington with a bag of 10 trillion debt to Obama..

5) The tax cuts Bush enacted in 2001 and 2003 for the riches were never offset with spending cuts.

6) For two wars Bush started, we have been spending more than 2 billion dollars a week. As for today, we have been spending 1.4 trillion for wars. Strong Military does not mean more military spending. We need to bring a draft system back to US. The best solution is not to go to war unless President (Commander of Chief) lost all other options and it has to be just and correct for a cause.

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I just saw David Axelrod on Fox. He could not give a straight answer on anything. Budget is all about no ideas from Romney Ryan and “the Republicans won't give us another 4 trillion to create jobs...Lol Would any of us give them another 4 trillion. ? They can’t even say where the last 4 trillion went.

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globalwatcher: "For two wars Bush started"

Not exactly. Afghanistan was in response to the U.S. losing 3,000 people in the worst terrorist attack to date, being as how the Taliban were harboring bin laden, and Iraq was just a continuation of the Gulf War, which, incredibly, ( Bush Sr. mistake ) left Saddam Hussein in power, even after he invaded Kuwait.

I'm looking foward to the presidential and the vice presidential debates.

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LizzSep. 03, 2012 - 10:12PM JST

I just saw David Axelrod on Fox. He could not give a straight answer on anything. Budget is all about no ideas from Romney Ryan and “the Republicans won't give us another 4 trillion to create jobs...Lol Would any of us give them another 4 trillion. ? They can’t even say where the last 4 trillion went

I forgot to add the "Interest" payment to China for borrowed money of 16 trillion on the list. So Obama is doing as much as he could. I am surprised we are not yet in the Depression.

If my two kids are going to very expensive private colleges with my financial support, making a credit card payment for my newly married 2nd wife with 10 trillion debt she had already accumulated and other financial obligations I already have, I would like to think that I am doing a damn good job to keep all my everyvbody under the roof. I do not need anyone's approval, but a least I earned respect instead of being blamed.

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Vote for whomever you like. To those of us in the real world, Obama is creating low paying jobs and presiding over an unprecedented increase in federal anti-poverty spending. Strangely enough the national poverty rate has not declined, in fact it has gone up. Romney was very tough on welfare reform (requiring work) in Massachusetts.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/31/business/majority-of-new-jobs-pay-low-wages-study-finds.html?_r=2

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Vote for whomever you like. To those of us in the real world, Obama is creating low paying jobs and presiding over an unprecedented increase in federal anti-poverty spending. Strangely enough the national poverty rate has not declined, in fact it has gone up. Romney was very tough on welfare reform (requiring work) in Massachusetts.

As we have been aware that the world is in deep recession. US 2nd largest customer is Europe. Europe has been doing worse than US with high unemployment. People in Europe do not have money to spend for US products. When the products are not selling, a big company in this country is not adding new opportunity for workers. It is all supply/demand in labor economics. When the labor demand in global economy shrinks, then the labor supply shrinks as well. Same rule applies to housing market, when more housing saturates the market, the price of your house declines.

And most people aren't talking about the politics quite frankly. They are talking about their personal economy and whether there are more opportunities and that's the real key there

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The people are tired and people want to try something new and go into a different direction. In a nutshell

Again, this is everybody's fault.

Instead of blaming everyone else, we need to do our share to elect politicians who do our jobs. Instead of reading junk weblinks, motivate ourself to higher education (college) to be critical thinkers and problem solvers. And then VOTE..

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Liberals can spin any record they want but as usual the facts are plain as day. Debunked.

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/08/reid-wrong-on-bushs-economic-record/

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/02/dueling-debt-deceptions/

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The problem is, which path do we want to go. At the current rate, we need a better plan. Is Romney that man, who knows, but if we keep going down this path, there won't be an America left. The people have to decide. That is our democracy.

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People in Europe do not have money to spend for US products

This is getting quite tiresome. Of course Europe's slowdown is hurting American profits and vice versa, although I believe exports to Europe are still increasing. But that is not the major drag on growth (for instance.unemployment in the US spiked after Obama signed the health care and stimulus bills into law).

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bass4funk, the weblinks you are providing here are biased. Go to government stats, they will tell you different stats. FYI

Thanks to Internet technology, there are tons of information available. Our job is to educate ourselves and decide which ones for Save, and which ones to "Trash Bin". It takes good formal education to learn this skill in research project.

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What are you talking about?

FactCheck.org is a non-partisan,[1] nonprofit[2] website that describes itself as a "'consumer advocate' for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics."[3] It is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the Annenberg School for Communication at the University of Pennsylvania, and is funded primarily by the Annenberg Foundation.[3] FactCheck has won three Webby Awards in the Politics category, in 2008, 2010 and 2011.[4] Most of its content consists of rebuttals to what it considers inaccurate, misleading, or false claims by politicians. FactCheck has also targeted misleading claims from various partisan groups.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FactCheck

Thanks to Internet technology, there are tons of information available. Our job is to educate ourselves and decide which ones for Save, and which ones to "Trash Bin". It takes good formal education to learn this skill in research project.

I agree, that's why I put it there. You're welcome.

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