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Someone needs to refer Liar Lavrov to a history book.

The reason some people in western countries are saying Russia suffer a defeat is that they chose to invade one of their neighbors. Again. They seem to think there should be no consequences for their actions when quite clearly there should be.

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Lavrov, Peskov, Medvedev… always hearing these three guys making such stupid and provocative comments like this. Even Putin is not so stupid. Kirby is right. Not worth a response.

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Both were defeated by the inexhaustible resilience of the Russian people.

Yes, they were incredibly resilient defending their homelands. So now are the Ukrainians.

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Both Hitler and Napolean tried to wipe Russia off the map and plunder its vast resources.

Both were defeated by the inexhaustible resilience of the Russian people.

Rubbish.

Russians are famously ill-disciplined, poorly trained cowards - certainly to this day - and it was only Hitler's stupidity in trying to fight a war on several fronts that prevented Germany from taking the Soviet Union.

Fascist Russia cannot win this war in Ukraine. The shaky little tyrant is going to have to sacrifice countless more men that have been forced to die to find that out.

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I wish there were a final solution to the Russian question in which Russia stops the war, tries them itself or hands over Putin and his henchmen to an international court, begs forgiveness with all its might, pays massive reparations to Ukraine, vows to become a responsible member of the world community and starts a mission to make the world a much better place. But Russian cynicism and nihilism will never allow that. And its nihilistic cheer squad will be happy.

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Putin, together with his vicious deputy Lavrov and the other acolytes, have transformed Russia into a pariah terrorist state. From his humble beginnings as a lowly KGB enforcer, from knuckle-dusters to novichok, he has risen as a veritably toxic and benign leader, who has brought nothing but misery, discord, and deep embarrassment to a once-proud Russian people.

It's hardly possible to believe that almost one year on since he declared war on a totally innocent sovereign nation, he and the other mentally-deranged cabal are still there in-post - how the hell has this been allowed to happen ?

Change will come, and the most likely source for this will be the populace uprising, an insurrection on an extremely bloody-scale. The Ukrainian people just have to hang on long enough for this to come about.

The West should launch a far more penetrating cyber-war against Putin and Co. purely by informing the ordinary Russian people directly that regime-change is now long overdue. Ceaucescu once thought he was safe, but once the momentum built, his time was over - exactly the same must happen in Moscow, only this time we need the War Criminals transporting to The Hague.

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Lavrov has consistently made comments that baffle. Hitler had Jewish blood?, non specific gender named toilets are inhuman, Ukrainian is a Neo-Nazi state, Russia is facing a Final solution. As a Foreign Minister he seems to be completely clueless about foreign affairs.

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[ ” "How dare he compare anything to the Holocaust, anything. Let alone a war that they started," White House national security spokesman John Kirby said.

"It's almost so absurd that it's not worth responding to, other than the truly offensive manner in which he tried to cast us in terms of Hitler and the Holocaust," Kirby told reporters at a briefing. “ ]

You’re too nice, John; just call him an idiot.

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Lavrov is a LOL master of projection. This Russian sot will wake up one day to find himself, if not in the dock, then in the history books, forever labelled as an iniquitous accomplice to Putin's war of aggression. As an active enabler of Putin's nefarious plans, he's out-Ribbentroped, von Ribbentrop who received a hempen necktie for his services to German fascism. Let's hope Lavrov will one day get his just deserts, too.

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There’s a reason that Lavrov is FM. No other Russian diplomat (and its diplomatic corps has been historically quite impressive) is willing to say such ludicrous idiotic things.

I remember back in HW’s day when the US and the USSR were trying to cooperate to facilitate an end to the Nicaraguan civil war and the U.S. and James Backer were so frustrated by his truculent manner that they sought and received his removal from the process.

The man would be a laughable clown if he were not so dangerous.

When (not if) Putin goes, I wouldn’t be surprised if he were given the choice to retire quietly or to stand next to an open window.

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Both Hitler and Napolean tried to wipe Russia off the map and plunder its vast resources.

What relevance is that to Russia trying to wipe Ukraine off the map? Nobody is attacking Russia.

Russia's Lavrov compares West's approach to Russia with Hitler's 'Final Solution'

I swear those Russian leaders are on hard drugs, they must be to spew such nonsense and to invade their neighbor talking about Nazi's and a non existent threat to Russia. The only ones who have a "final solution" type approach is Russia itself with regards to Ukraine and its people.

These people are losing their grasp on reality and pose an imminent threat to the entire world with their access to thousands of WMD. China should be very worried, but not about the west, it is their "friend" that looks to be losing it.

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The current Russian leadership always has a "tell" when its disastrous policies are all failing - ramp up the crazy talk...

Defense Ministers boasting of nuking Europe, Medvedev saying Kishida should disembowel himself, "Lying" Lavrov with his Holocaust comparisons...

They think it makes them look strong - it just makes them look like the clowns they are...

The debacle of an invasion that was supposed to last one week will soon be one year long, with no path for a Russian victory. The Ukrainians target and destroy Russia's military while Putin attacks schools, shopping malls, and apartments - all war crimes...

Lavrov, like Putin, will soon be out of a job...

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Lavrov is a propaganda machine. The walls are closing in.

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Gibbering idiot. Not making sense.

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The pot calling the kettle black.

A ploy often used by these dictatorships and right-wingers who want to be seen as doing nothing wrong when they violently assault a peaceful neighbor. Hell, even the Russians were laying down flowers at a Ukrainian monument in Moscow to mourn the victims of the helicopter crash.

Putin and Lavrov are just lying away and throwing mud balls at the window hoping something will stick.

It won't work.

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Lavrov tenet, function is to provoke outrage anger and disgust.

A vile creature of habit.

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well maybe you shouldn't have invaded another country!!!

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And Lavrov is not far from reality..

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And Lavrov is not far from reality..

Lavrov is freaking out so he's trying to paint Ukraine's actions as being Nazi like, when it's Russia's actions that hare Hitler like.

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Lavrov is freaking out so he's trying to paint Ukraine's actions as being Nazi like, when it's Russia's actions that hare Hitler like.

Yup, Hitler had reasons/excuses for every single country he invaded, but none of them were justified.

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Everybody know Putin’s IQ is about 148, Biden 127 and Zi Ping 152. But Mr Lavrov maybe the highest. Putin will retire after the victory and it will be him or Medvedev.

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Lavrov, Peskov, Medvedev… always hearing these three guys making such stupid and provocative comments like this. Even Putin is not so stupid. Kirby is right. Not worth a response.

Actually, Putin is making them say it on his behalf with the threat of a mysterious window accident. Putin realizes that too many absurd or outlandish reasons coming from him alone will make Putin look like an unfit kook!

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Yeah, Putin and Lavrov are such genius' that they are getting their asses kicked up one side and down the other and have made their country a Pariah state with a cratering economy.

Sign them up for MENSA, lol.

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From my perspective, Russian invaded the Crimea for strategic reasons, tried to steal the mines and industry in the Donbass by starting and is continuing a Hitler/ Stalin copied move (Czech Republic/Finland, Poland, Eastern Europe) by stating that there are oppressed Russians there. The only reason there are Russian alliances in the Donbass is that Russia took all of the food in the early 1930's and starved the Ukrainians to death. Then they forced the Russian language and 'education' system on the Ukrainians. People say Hitler was ruthless but Stalin likely killed more people.

Putin wants clear access to the black sea, some mines and industry. He thought sleepy Joe was a push over and Europe was asleep. Thank God for the American generals ability to sway our demented president. Thank God for the Poles and Czechs etc. who provided immediate assistance other wise it is likely there would be o Ukraine now. They remember WWII Russian rape and executions. It's a land grab.

Communism is a farce, it always starts as 'we are here to help the poor worker' and ends in a dictatorship with censorship and brutal crushing of any opposition voice. Kind of like the DNC in the USA.

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Russia threw 25M people at Hitler. That's commitment. Hopefully, they leave Ukraine before the war the Russian leaders started takes anywhere near so many Russian lives.

They should leave now. The loss is already too great. Putin made a bad decision. Any bets for how many more Russian commanders will be replaced before this is all over? 5, 10, 20?

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Komical Sergei taking on Trump to become the world's tiniest victim.

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During a press conference, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said the conflict would only cease when Ukraine is no longer a military threat to Russia. Lavrov also said that his country's security concerns are one of the main reasons for the ongoing war, which began with Russia's invasion last February 24.

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Lavrov is really falling on Godwin's Law (look it up). He's unraveling

Lavrov thinks too much of Russia - the West doesn't care that Russia continues to exist. Russia doesn't preoccupy the minds in the West (the West has tons of other problems that preoccupy them), like the West lives rent-free in the mind of Russia

(Just be a responsible part of the global community, not an asocial recluse of conspiracy theorists like a weird uncle. Nobody had a problem with Russia when Yeltsin was president, for instance.)

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If anyone wants to go beyond the few short cherry picked quotes and instead hear exactly what Lavrov said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWIdDWnOk08

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the West doesn't care that Russia continues to exist.

Actually, they have been obsessed with bringing Russia down for a long time. They get in the way of America's hegemony. They prevented the West from doing to Syria what they did to Iraq, Lybia...

Nobody had a problem with Russia when Yeltsin was president, for instance.

Yeltsin was the West's puppet; he ruined Russia.

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Nobody had a problem with Russia when Yeltsin was president, for instance.)

Naturally! Who would doubt :) Convenient puppet.

Yeltsin and Gorbachev are two traitors to the Russian state. The harm that they have brought is forgotten and will take a long time to be corrected. I think Yeltsin understood this towards the end of his life and brought Putin to power. and for this Yeltsin deserves indulgence.

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BroncoToday 07:19 am JST

Both Hitler and Napolean tried to wipe Russia off the map and plunder its vast resources.

Both were defeated by the inexhaustible resilience of the Russian people.

Yes but throughout history the Czars have bankrupted the country fighting wars. Putin appears to be a Czar with a bunch of oil.

Lavrov did visit Peking quite a few times before they invaded the Ukraine. They have something going on with the Chinese would be my guess.

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Russia cannot win this war in Ukraine

You are a civilized person, be reserved. I repeat: the major nuclear powers never lose a war. Just remember. Silently

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You are a civilized person, be reserved. I repeat: the major nuclear powers never lose a war. Just remember. Silently

Didn’t seem to stop the Soviets from getting their asses kicked in Afghanistan (US either).

Remember THAT silently, lol.

And the US, UK, and France are nuclear powers as well. Remember that however it suits your fancy.

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Didn’t seem to stop the Soviets from getting their asses kicked in Afghanistan (US either).

Remember THAT silently, lol.

And the US, UK, and France are nuclear powers as well. Remember that however it suits your fancy.

Afghanistan was not a Russian war like Syria so... UK? Do not make me laugh! Poseidon will cover the tsunami... France? The most cowardly country, and the president is weak ...The US is also rather weak in spirit. Or there will be nothing left on earth. So laugh laugh as loud as u are able

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I repeat: the major nuclear powers never lose a war.

Then the coming loss by Russia is going to look that much worse.

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Poseidon will cover the tsunami... 

That wouldn’t be the Poseidon who’s test launch failed and sent the sub back to base would it? It can join the Nuclear cruise missiles that don’t irk, the “invincible” tank it’s army won’t deploy, the “stealth” fighters that establish air superiority, and the ships that don’t float.

It seems to be almost as reliable as the other junk weapons Russia makes.

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Then the coming loss by Russia is going to look that much worse. Strangerland, u forgot to put the word "propaganda"

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Russians are famously ill-disciplined

Have u ever seen Russians? Exactly seen? Maybe only bears on the streets of Moscow? Or balalaikas? Under vodka:))))

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Of course everyone knows it's true and this looks like ending in even more of a debacle than that suffered by Nazi Germany and Napoleonic France.

Napoleon was just a good ol fashioned empire builder but Nazi Germany and the collective West are hostage to capitalist economy. The inexorable tendency of capitalist economy has told them they must destroy Russia and dominate the mini-states that succeed it.

A big guy political scientist in France, a frequent TV presenter has come out and said this is not just another Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam-like disaster but is existential for the US just as much as Russia. Russian victory in the military conflict and economic war will see the entire world ditch the US$. That will be the end of the US empire and the end of its vehicle for military aggression, NATO.

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That wouldn’t be the Poseidon who’s test launch failed and sent the sub back to base would it? It can join the Nuclear cruise missiles that don’t irk, the “invincible” tank it’s army won’t deploy, the “stealth” fighters that establish air superiority, and the ships that don’t float.

It seems to be almost as reliable as the other junk weapons Russia makes.

About a week ago, the Russians launched a new destroyer. This one a little different. Fully armed with hypersonic missiles. They confidently and very publicly said it could take out an entire American carrier group without said group ever getting in range to try and hit back.

The reply from US/NATO? Silence. i.e. better keep all the carrier groups ........ well, better not put them to sea at all. Spend the money on health care, housing and food stamps for Americans instead. At most they might be somewhat safe in the Gulf of Mexico provided the Russian ships don't sail to Cuba. Or they could just sink the carrier group from Venezuelan waters. Nope, definitely spend the money on health care, housing and food stamps for Americans instead.

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Both Hitler and Napolean tried to wipe Russia off the map and plunder its vast resources.

Both were defeated by the inexhaustible resilience of the Russian people.

NATO would not have to invade and conquer Russia to cripple its military. It can be done with air power, though NATO ground forces would quickly expel Russian forces from Ukraine if the Russians decide to employ nuclear weapons. If things like Raybaktar drones and converted TU-143 drones are getting through Russian air defenses then F-35s and B-2s would have little problem working in Russian airspace. Russia would find itself without a nuclear arsenal, functioning air bases and a functioning energy sector pretty quickly.

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About a week ago, the Russians launched a new destroyer. This one a little different. Fully armed with hypersonic missiles. They confidently and very publicly said it could take out an entire American carrier group without said group ever getting in range to try and hit back.

It is a laughable claim. The ship class is not new. The missile in question is not fully developed (and nobody can even confirm if the ship actually has Zircon aboard, it might be maskirovka) and that missile does not have the range to allow the ship to launch outside the range of the weapons the carrier strike group employs. With E-2Ds in the air 24/7 the carrier has a tremendous radar horizon allowing threats to be detected and engaged long before they come within range to shoot anything. In short, the carriers air wing would sink that frigate long before it could get close enough to the carrier to launch its weapons, assuming a submarine didn't take care of it first, which is the most likely scenario btw.

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A big guy political scientist in France, a frequent TV presenter has come out and said this is not just another Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam-like disaster but is existential for the US just as much as Russia.

I don't know if I would call a Russian victory in Ukraine an existential threat, but if Russia wins there it will immediately attack Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and Moldova, at which point NATO would very much be facing an existential threat. This has nothing to do with economic hegemony and all the other nonsense being batted around here, the west would be happy to do business with a democratic or at least peaceful Russia. They buy a lot of Japanese cars and sell a lot of energy. But when Russia starts to make noises that Ukraine, the Baltic States, Moldova and Kazakhstan are not legitimate nations but rightly belong to Russia based on their Russkiy Mir ideology, and then proceed to invade Ukraine and start annexing chunks of it into Russia, the west knows Russia must be defeated in Ukraine or the next war will be on NATO soil. Nobody wants a war in NATO so we arm and support Ukraine. The alternative is far more costly.

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It is a laughable claim.

Better tell US/NATO officials.

The ship class is not new.

It was a new ship but they are also refitting old vessels to carry those missiles as well.

The missile in question is not fully developed

They are not fully developed in USA. Far from it. Still in early testing which has been going badly. In Russia they are fully developed, deployed and have been used in combat already.

but if Russia wins there it will immediately attack Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and Moldova

How do you know this? Do you have spies in the top levels in the Kremlin?

As for the rest, I'm just reporting what a specialist on French TV said.

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Stig - You don't think that Russia is interested in trying to achieve control of those now independent countries that used to be part of the Soviet Union or the Russian Empire?

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As for the rest, I'm just reporting what a specialist on French TV said.

That the same specialist that said a Russian invasion of a neighboring country is actually US aggression and is existential to the US? That “specialist”?

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That the same specialist that said a Russian invasion of a neighboring country is actually US aggression and is existential to the US? That “specialist”?

Not as far as I know.

I know that in Denmark he was described as the ultimate insider lackey. Until now, never had a significant idea go through his head which is how he became a big guy on French TV.

The second or third in command (well, I'm not sure. He has some weird designation peculiar to Germany. Like half bureaucrat half military officer) of the German army also had some interesting things to say last week as well. He described Russia, in not so many words, as the worlds most powerful nation.

I'm not sure myself. China has such manufacturing capacity and of course 1.4 billion people.

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In Russia they are fully developed, deployed and have been used in combat already.

and you know this how ? Because Putin & or his stooges said so !?

China has such manufacturing capacity and 1.4 billion people.

not for much longer they don’t

@desert

well explained & spot on as usual

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the West doesn't care that Russia continues to exist.

Actually, they have been obsessed with bringing Russia down for a long time. They get in the way of America's hegemony. They prevented the West from doing to Syria what they did to Iraq, Lybia...

No, the West was actually working with Russia, as long as Russia was a responsible member of the global community. Remember, even Pres. George W. Bush said he looked Putin in the eye and saw someone he could trust. The West even let in Russia into the G7, when Russia isn't one of the top economic nations. The West wouldn't had done all that if they wanted to bring Russia down

It wasn't until Russia first attacked Ukraine in 2014 (that was even before Syria) that the West finally saw through Putin. That's when the falling out started

Nobody had a problem with Russia when Yeltsin was president, for instance.

Yeltsin was the West's puppet

How could Yeltsin be the West's puppet when the West hardly knew him? Nobody in the West had really heard of him before he rose to the Russian Presidency, and didn't much interacted with him during his Presidency. The West just let him be

Methinks you just label anybody, who likes the West, to be a puppet of the West. Yeltsin came to that on his own - the West didn't give him riches. (Did ya ever see him rich? He died a modest death. In comparison, Putin's a freakin' billionaire!)

Yeltsin and Gorbachev are two traitors to the Russian state. The harm that they have brought is forgotten and will take a long time to be corrected. I think Yeltsin understood this towards the end of his life and brought Putin to power. and for this Yeltsin deserves indulgence.

Gorbachev saved communist Russia from ruin! Did ya really think the communist Soviet Union was going anywhere?! They were in dire financial state - they even had to sell their old navy ships to Pepsi (making Pepsi at one point a navy power - true story) just to earn some money. Russian people were getting hungry, and the peoples of other nations that the USSR occupied would had wanted their independence eventually (and that would had been very bloody) - just like the end of colonialism, people determined their own destinies. Gorbachev avoided that bloody fate

Meanwhile, Yeltsin considered Putin his biggest mistake! Here's back when Yeltsin died in 2007:

"Russia mourns Yeltsin as man of contradictions"

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-russia-yeltsin/russia-mourns-yeltsin-as-man-of-contradictions-idUKSP2793820070424

“Many members of the opposition believe that the ‘appointment’ of Vladimir Putin as successor was the biggest mistake of the first president of Russia. But Boris Yeltsin himself never admitted that. At least publicly.”

Ya guys should never forget your history

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US & NATO were doing a slow motion of invading Russia

No. Neither the US nor NATO made any changes to their borders. Russia has attempted to and failed.

This is all on Russia. The war ends as soon as Russia stops sending its children to die for the ego of the Kremlin.

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Seem to be a lot of people in this comments section who buy into the Nato story about how badly the war is going for Russia. Why does Ukraine continually need new game changing weapons? Started with Javelins, M777 howitzers, drones, Himars, Soviet tanks and now they are after game changing Western tanks.

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Seem to be a lot of people in this comments section who buy into the Nato story about how badly the war is going for Russia.

You realize, that unlike Russian propaganda, NATO is transparent, right?

Why does Ukraine continually need new game changing weapons?

Because Russia is a massively larger enemy with more firepower who can keep sending soldiers to die.

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