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Russia attacks Ukraine with huge drone swarm ahead of Victory Day holiday

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By Gleb Garanich and Valentyn Ogirenko

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Vladimir Rogov, a Russian-installed official in Zaporizhzhia, said Russian forces hit a warehouse and Ukrainian troops' position in the small city of Orikhiv. Reuters was unable to independently verify the report.

Can't verify Russian reports but every word from the Ukrainians is taken at face value...

Kyiv's mayor said Russia had fired 60 Iranian-made kamikaze drones at Ukrainian targets, including 36 at the capital, all of which had been shot down.

Wow... amazing 100%.... ALL shot down..

Should really come with a propaganda warning.

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This is how a Nazi state celebrates victory: by mindlessly and pointlessly shelling civilians.

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Nothing says "We're winning!" like pulling 70 year old tanks out of mothballs and evacuating civilians from your "irrevocably Russian" occupied lands.

That's not to say that the Midget of Moscow's fans won't give it the old (on-line degree) college try.

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Is this an assassination attempt on Zelenskyy? If it happened in Russia it would have been called an assassination attempt on Putin.

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If they were “all shot down” then explain the picture above the headline.

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35 Iranian-made drones.

Putin will send a body double to the Red Sq military parade on May 9.

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Blacklabel

If they were “all shot down” then explain the picture above the headline.

Maybe read the rest of the quote:

*Kyiv's mayor said Russia had fired 60 Iranian-made kamikaze drones at Ukrainian targets, including 36 at the capital, all of which had been shot down. *Debris hit apartments and other buildings, injuring at least five people in the city.

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Russia continues its barbarous acts of terror by bombing Ukrainian schools, hospitals and apartment complexes.

Way to go, Putin! You've proven yet again that you're cut from the same cloth as Adolf Hitler.

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And only 15 months into a 3-Day "special operation", Kiev is still free. Zelenski is still in charge. NATO is unified, indeed expanded. The Black Sea "fleet" is in hiding. The Russian Air Farce is incapable of anything other than lob and run attacks from under the cover of their own SAMs on their own territory. 3 NATO facing armies have been destroyed and will take the better part of a decade to rebuild. And the strategically insignificant salt-mine that has cost the Russians 100k or more in total casualties is strangely not "de-nazified."

So. Much. Winning. As one of Mini-me's agents would say..... Wonder if the Russians are tired of "winning" yet....

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Maybe read the rest of the quote:

That huge whole in the side of the building was caused by debris?

so that would also mean that building was also not even the target.

oops.

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Putin supporters only criticism of this attack is apparently that Ukraine said they shot down all of the drones sent to attack Kyiv.

Not a peep about hitting a Red Cross warehouse.

Wow... amazing 100%.... ALL shot down..

Should really come with a propaganda warning.

If they were “all shot down” then explain the picture above the headline.

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Not a peep about hitting a Red Cross warehouse.

Because it was Not the target.

Damaged from debris from Ukraine shooting down ALL the drones and none of them hitting their targets.

That’s what debris is, right?

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In the 40s the Nazis came from the south, today they come from the north. Its strange how the russians celebrate beating the nazis all those years ago, but now copy them.

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Desperado Putin will do anything to stay relevnat.

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Yes those statues all over Russia of fascist leaders and participants in ethic cleansing like Stepan Banderas and Roman Shukhevych and other OUN UPA leaders is disgraceful.

Oooh wait that is Ukraine not Russia, oh well.

Boy it would be a shame if that didn't matter as much as a War of Aggression, a clear warcrime.

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Not a peep about hitting a Red Cross warehouse.

Because it was Not the target.

Admitting that the Russians can’t even hit their intended targets. That’s a new one in the “Victory” playbook.

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The only Nazis in Ukraine came with the Russians. This part of Russia's claims is just too old and false to be used. Only using the claim that people who speak Russian are Russian citizens is more ludicrous. There are millions of citizens in many countries that don't choose to speak the main language. That means nothing and doesn't mean they are somehow wishing to be part of a de-facto dictatorship.

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Admitting that the Russians can’t even hit their intended targets.

Because Ukraine shot down all the drones, right?

not because they “cant”.

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No national group in the Soviet Union suffered more mortality and war wounded than Ukrainians (soldiers, citizens and, Jews slaughtered on masse by Germans and their fascist Ukrainian collaborators) when their lands were soaked in blood by the bestial Nazi invader. As a sovereign nation Ukrainians have the right to commemorate on any day of their choosing so the Russians should keep their snouts out. Victory Day in Moscow is usually blessed by glorious spring sunshine as I have personally experienced, but after this wanton drone swarm, the Ukrainians now have the right to rain on Putin's parade (preferably with minimum "collateral damage").

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Blacklabel

Not a peep about hitting a Red Cross warehouse.

Because it was Not the target.

Damaged from debris from Ukraine shooting down ALL the drones and none of them hitting their targets.

That’s what debris is, right?

Firing indiscriminately into a civilian city suggests that they don't have any specific target except terrorising civilians.

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"Russian President Vladimir Putin has cited safety concerns as the reason for canceling public celebrations for the May Day and Victory Day Parades."

Kind of hard to have a military parade on "Victory Day" without victory or operational tanks.

To be fair, there are rather a lot of bereaved families of soldiers killed in THIS war to march. But surely that wasn't a reason, was it?

A super-confident man's man like Vlad wouldn't be concerned about a little ding to his ego, would he?

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When the drones or missiles are shot down they still cause damage and casualties.

yes in places that were not the intended target. So they aren’t “attacking” the places you claim.

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yes in places that were not the intended target.

What were the targets? You're saying no debris hit targets. What were the targets?

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Sad as it is, Ukraine is not innocent of same attacks. It is a war. Only when you take sides, one side is bad.

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What were the targets? You're saying no debris hit targets. What were the targets?

whatever you claim they are, right?

such as the person talking about a Red Cross building was hit and claiming that it was the target.

so now the drones were ALL shot down but at the same time the "debris" hit the target anyway and caused as much damage to the Red Cross building as if the drone wasnt shot down?

Or are they firing indiscriminately and there are no targets? (so the Red Cross building wasnt the target)

or they dont even have the ability to hit a target anyway. (so they never targeted the Red Cross building at all, was just random where it hit)

or is it just supported propaganda and all the drones obviously were not shot down (and the drone attack on the targeted Red Cross building was successful? )

Posters are all over the place here, no consistency in the stories/claims.

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No news here, more senseless wanton destruction, hallmark of all war, only with huge risk global escalation.

People and capital pour out of Ukraine never to return again, environmental disaster, failed state more and more likely outcome, etc.

For these reasons polling of Europeans, large growing majorities do not support continued fighting in Ukraine or Ukraine's inclusion in NATO.

Clear steady decline support in polling by what most view below as EU biased Org., EU Parliament, double digits declines in support accelerating.

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/at-your-service/en/be-heard/eurobarometer/public-opinion-on-the-war-in-ukraine

Current private independent train-station based surveys, far stronger opposition to continued support of War or Ukraine inclusion in NATO. People want stability & peace.

Time to find off-ramps to settle madness, especially as US NATO Member political leadership popularity in free fall

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whatever you claim they are, right?

You're the one saying the buildings that were hit weren't targets. Prove it. I have no idea what the targets were and I'm not trying to claim otherwise. What you're saying would mean the drone "attack" on the Kremlin the other day was meant for something else. OK. What was the target? You made the first claim about the building in the photo to try to turn it into an argument. Put up or shut up.

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no, that was this guy

Firing indiscriminately into a civilian city suggests that they don't have any specific target except terrorising civilians.

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You made the first claim about the building in the photo to try to turn it into an argument. Put up or shut up.

how does the building in the photo look like that if ALL drones were shot down?

I made no comment about that being a target or not. simply that it is proof that not ALL drones were shot down.

Posters here somehow claim "debris" made that gaping hole while still agreeing that all drones were shot down. meaning they also dont think that building was the target, debris hit it when they shot down the drone.

Thats the best explanation I can give when posters are bouncing all over the place, flipping and flopping.

Do you think that building was only struck by debris yet has that much damage?

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Current private independent train-station-based surveys, far stronger opposition to the continued support of War or Ukraine's inclusion in NATO. People want stability & peace.

please post links to those polls.

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/at-your-service/en/be-heard/eurobarometer/public-opinion-on-the-war-in-ukraine

Clear steady decline support in polling by what most view below as EU biased Org., EU Parliament, double digits declines in support accelerating.

Public Opinion on Russia's War Against Ukraine

From the report, the majority of EU people still support the war effort for Ukraine.

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Because it was Not the target

If we believe Moscow (lol) none of the residential buildings, schools, hospitals, shopping malls, kindergartens, theatres hit by their state-of-the-art, never-seen-in-the-West, high-precision, undefeatable weapons were 'targets'.

Maybe those high-precision, better-than-anything-the-West-has weapons are not so high precision after all.

Or more likely, Putin is a blatant liar and incompetent military leader, as well as a war criminal.

Putin has said he will be attending the BRICS meeting in South Africa in August. The South African government has said it will have no choice but to arrest him and send him to the Hague if he does. Roll on summer.

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Please reread the article. All drones attacking Kyiv were shot down. The red cross warehouse is not in Kyiv.

Not a peep about hitting a Red Cross warehouse.

Because it was Not the target.

Damaged from debris from Ukraine shooting down ALL the drones and none of them hitting their targets.

That’s what debris is, right?

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Maybe those high-precision, better-than-anything-the-West-has weapons are not so high precision after all.

or maybe they all were shot down as claimed.

meaning none of them hit their targets.

So anything that was hit and any damage was caused by shooting them down enroute to their actual targets.

all of the Team Ukraine posters really need to have a quick sync up to get on the same page.

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whatever you claim they are, right?

Well, they never condoned the intentional targeting of civilians in retaliation for a strike on a logistical energy facility as you did the other day.

So there is that.

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Well, they never condoned the intentional targeting of civilians

oh now they can hit targets?

this was you wasnt it? yep, it was.

sad.

Admitting that the Russians can’t even hit their intended targets. That’s a new one in the “Victory” playbook.

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today is Victory day.

whole world celebrating 78 years anniversary of victory over fascism.

Actually, a part of the world is celebrating the repurposing of fascism to justify a BS invasion of a neighboring state. And weren't the Soviets just fine with fascism when it only involved Poland and not the motherland? I seem to remember that Stalin (whom mini-me seems to style himself after) was just fine with Nazism when it suited his needs.

And it's not even going that well.

Some "victory".....

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Important to look at Polls over time, trends, even biased ones like below.

Easy to post dated rah rah snapshot poll. Experts require consistent polling over time, then adjust for bias etc.

Clear steady decline support in polling by what most view below as EU biased Org., EU Parliament, double digits decline in support across all countries accelerating

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/at-your-service/en/be-heard/eurobarometer/public-opinion-on-the-war-in-ukraine

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https://www.europarl.europa.eu/at-your-service/en/be-heard/eurobarometer/public-opinion-on-the-war-in-ukraine

I read the first report, which only mentions 4-5 EU countries and nothing showing the majority do not support the EU effort for Ukraine.

How many of the reports do you expect the forum to read?

How many of the reports did you read?

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These polls Why leaders like Macron in France have 28% favorability, French people do not support the War or Ukraine NATO Membership.

One degree or another, exact same trend in all EU Countries, growing opposition to War & Ukraine NATO Membership

Don't believe, believe EU biased polling below, my private numbers way stronger opposiion.

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/at-your-service/en/be-heard/eurobarometer/public-opinion-on-the-war-in-ukraine

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Urkraine NATO is not an issue and wasn't going to happen.

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Don't believe, believe EU biased polling below, my private numbers way stronger opposiion.

What are your "private numbers" and where are they from?

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the propaganda of Russia is purposely targeting civilians. schools, old people homes, hospitals was much better prior to this new insane insistence that every time they shot down every missile or drone.

If so, they none of them made it to the intended target.

So Russia isnt targeting those places, just the debris from the shootdowns fell on them.

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Oh, Ukraine's a NATO Member, it's called Junior Proxy 'Fighting/Body-Bag' Partner Status!

Anyone think NATO & Full Members just give all this military & non-military support away - no strings attached?

If you read some who analyze recent leaked US CIA Ukraine Intel, they're convinced some of this Ukrainian financial corruption and skimming schemes are in order to provide kickbacks to NATO top brass and top officials.

-7 ( +3 / -10 )

what have I said that is inaccurate?

You're taking claims and comments regarding one attack and trying to make them apply to the whole war.

Was Mariupol flattened by drone debris, or by deliberate repeated shelling by Moscow?

Was the theatre clearly marked 'children' destroyed by drone debris, or by deliberate shelling by Moscow?

However you mix it, however you try to paint the pig, you still have a deliberate act of aggression by Moscow, in the unprovoked and unjustifiable invasion of a sovereign nation. Everything that Moscow has done or tried to do in the course of that failed invasion is evil.

And those trying to justify Putin's actions are no better.

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https://www.europarl.europa.eu/at-your-service/en/be-heard/eurobarometer/public-opinion-on-the-war-in-ukraine

I read the first report, which only mentions 4-5 EU countries and nothing showing the majority do not support the EU effort for Ukraine.

How many of the reports do you expect the forum to read?

so if you read various PDF files by date, you'd find German support for Ukraine peaking above 80% last year, most recent 47%, 49% opposed and they're an outlier vs. most of EU.

47% German support also bit dated, polling from Mid- March to Mid-April, it'll drop again this like Every Month

-6 ( +3 / -9 )

Sorry biased polling below does not support your pro war agenda but it's people speaking, democracy, remember? Again, German support, while under-water/negative and trending down, FAR higher than most other countries like Italy, France, Spain, etc.

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/at-your-service/en/be-heard/eurobarometer/public-opinion-on-the-war-in-ukraine

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Blacklabel

Do you think that building was only struck by debris yet has that much damage?

So what you’re saying is that you believe at least one drone wasn’t shot down and this apartment building was the intended target?

I tend to agree with the presumption that firing indiscriminately at civilian area of a city supports that they didn’t really have any targets. But I suppose it is possible that you are correct and Russia deliberately targets apartments and other civilian infrastructure.

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Keep reminding people, US invaded Cuba and established large military base that continues today called Guantanamo, because of Russian military involvement in Cuba at the time, early 1960'a.

Ukraine situation totally analogous, US and NATO involvement trigged this Russian invasion, like above and exactly what President Xi repeats time and time again.

-7 ( +2 / -9 )

The walls have closed in on the claim that multiple polls show opposition across Europe.

This is the most pathetic, hysterical attempt yet:

These polls Why leaders like Macron in France have 28% favorability, French people do not support the War or Ukraine NATO Membership.

Some things are so lame, they don't require refutation.

The apologists for the Russian invasion are not sending their best.

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how does the building in the photo look like that if ALL drones were shot down?

I made no comment about that being a target or not. simply that it is proof that not ALL drones were shot down.

your comment tries to imply the building wasn’t a target if the drone that hit it was shot down, or if the drone had been shot down there wouldn’t be that level of damage. There is that level of damage so that means the building was a target according to your claim and the drone was not shot down.

So yes, you did imply the building was a target. Others have pointed out that even debris from a drone shot down can cause damage, but this can also be to its intended target. A direct hit from one of these drones could be much worse. You can argue about it all you want. You haven’t proved anything.

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Keep reminding people, US invaded Cuba and established large military base that continues today called Guantanamo, because of Russian military involvement in Cuba at the time, early 1960'a.

Guantanamo Bay was leased long before the 1960s. Why are you reminding people of falsehoods.

Ukraine situation totally analogous, US and NATO involvement trigged this Russian invasion, like above and exactly what President Xi repeats time and time again.

The US didn't do a full scale invasion of Cuba. That would be analogous but it didn't happen and the US wouldn't have botched it like Russia.

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