Russia battles Ukrainian troops for third day after shock incursion

Russian forces were battling Ukrainian troops for a third day on Thursday after they smashed through the Russian border in the Kursk region, an audacious attack on the world's biggest nuclear power that has forced Moscow to call in reserves.

Completely caught off guard, Russia are scrambling to stop Ukraine forces, which will deplete Russian troops in the Dombas.

An incredibly stupid and naive things to do, reminiscent of the Nazis and The Battle of the Bulge. This will end in many more deaths and more turmoil wishing Ukraine.

Zelensky current surrounds himself with bodyguards as a coup is likely at any time. People are wanting peace now yet Zelensky cannot stop himself.

He has been either badly advised or has done this from his own initiative proving he has become insane.

Vlad can’t even protect his own borders (he could give a fig about his citizens) much less subjugate Ukraine.

The Russians will push back. They’ll stop this one. There will be more though.

Seeing Putin’s face at the time he was informed… he looked like Bush Jr. when he heard about 9/11. Putin and the Russian leadership just don’t comprehend what they’ve opened up. It was meant to be about keeping Russians safe, but the opposite is now true.

falseflagsteve

An incredibly stupid and naive things to do, reminiscent of the Nazis and The Battle of the Bulge. This will end in many more deaths and more turmoil wishing Ukraine.

OK, Mr. War Strategist...

Article insinuates they "rammed" through the border.

Nothing of the sort ever transpired. The border crossings are basically not even 'strong points'. Due to the huge distances, there are huge areas that anyone can cross.

They simply drove through north and south of the border crossing, through wooded and fielded areas and looped around it while pressing it from the front too - hardly rocket science. Russians have done this many times before.

Here is the crossing (51.173254, 35.139857) and directly north of it, clearly visible, is the gas terminal - which is only a few hundred meters from the border. Google maps removed the label but it's here (51.178850, 35.138953).

The gas terminal thing is a red herring - the actual pipeline runs through their country (they could blow it at any time) and the contract with Austria expires at the end of 2024.

Ditto the nuke plant which is well out of reach - not even worth mentioning. The confusion about the blogger mentioned is there are two settlements/villages with the same name in Kursk Oblast - let you work it out from there.

The breach has been contained. A very common misconception here is the defense belt is not on the actual border but on the western side of the railway line running north-south much further east of Sudzha; no units penetrated that or went as far as the train line; not even close. Look at a map and see if you can see it.

64 dollar question is how many went into this self-created trap and how many won't come out. The idea that Kyiv regime forces will hold vast swathes of Russian territory is absurd. The mop-up operation is in full swing now that it has been quarantined.

JJE

Article insinuates they "rammed" through the border.

Nothing of the sort ever transpired. The border crossings are basically not even 'strong points'. Due to the huge distances, there are huge areas that anyone can cross.

They simply drove through north and south of the border crossing, through wooded and fielded areas and looped around it while pressing it from the front too - hardly rocket science. Russians have done this many times before.

Really? So why are Russian milbloggers saying that Ukraine penetrated at least two Russian defensive lines and a stronghold?

The mop-up operation is in full swing now that it has been quarantined.

So, I guess this is the last we will hear of this? Let's see.

OK, Mr. War Strategist...

The speed with which they moved from disinterested 3rd party to critic of Ukraine. lol

Cards Fan

Factual information. Putin has already had the airforce out carpet bombing the Ukrainian troops who went over the border. He will always retaliate at a far higher level as he did when missiles were fired into Russia.

There was a lot of confusion initially - basically the invading Kyiv-regime forces used highly mobile reconnaissance and sabotage groups in armored vehicles - humvees, Cozaks and other relatively speedy MRAP style vehicles to probe main road routes, sometimes using side and dirt roads, or even tracks on farms, to bypass checkpoints. Meaning a vehicle with 4-5 men, sometimes in groups. They would probe then beat a retreat.

That is why the initial reporting (and maps) showed this enormous UAF controlled area, when in reality some small units had literally just driven up roads and doubled back causing confusion.

The 'strong hold' appears to be the Sudzha border crossing - and that is was/is anything but. The strategic defense belt much is further east of there (and closer to the train line) in that sector.

Important to observe territorial/border/police units did a sterling job in setting up the cordons. Even some citizens got in on the act with their hunting rifles. There wasn't a large army formation that was 'defeated' or even present. But now the cavalry is on the way; you can bank on that.

The tactical symbol the UAF initially used on vehicles is a triangle with laid over corners (whether they keep using them or wipe them off as the drone and airstrikes intensify is another thing).

An incredibly stupid and naive things to do, reminiscent of the Nazis and The Battle of the Bulge. This will end in many more deaths and more turmoil wishing Ukraine.

Russians take months, suffer tens of thousands of casualties, destroy their own country’s future even further in order to capture a few hundred square km:

“Brilliant move, President Putin!”

Ukraine takes a few days, suffers light casualties, uses a small force to capture more territory than Russia has all year:

”An incredibly stupid thing to so”

Mmkay.

Also not mentioned is RFAF seized two settlements in Sumy on the border today in another sector. This is obviously a precaution.

The point is the actual delineated border is very porous.

Rainyday

They haven’t captured the land, check how many troops are there. Naivety doesn’t win wars, ruthless leaders with many troops and weapons do.

We live in la la land these I’m afraid, it’s a shame and that’s why the world is so unstable.

The invasion will end when Putin is taken out by one of his own! And Ukraine rather by force or war tribunals will be given back what Russia has taken ! And Russia will pay and pay dearly for the reconstruction of Ukraine! Putin has set back and isolated Russia from the world stage for decades to come! I still am shocked by those who think it’s okay for a neighbor to take something by force and everyone should just accept it.!. Putin made that poor choice thinking the Ukrainians would just fold and that the peaceful people of the world would just sit back and let it happen.!.

Factual information

Yes, I know what I said was factual. Thank you for confirming you agree.

They haven’t captured the land, check how many troops are there. Naivety doesn’t win wars, ruthless leaders with many troops and weapons do. 

Gee, I was under the impression that having driven the enemy from the field and being in sole possession of it constituted “capturing” land.

Interesting to learn that those living in Russian la la land have come up with a new definition so quickly after suddenly finding themselves in need of one.

rainyday

Erm, it’s a small amount of troops who have mostly been driven back and have no stronghold or defences to back them up. More cannon fodder provided by Zelensky to fuel his ego.

rainyday

As I said in my previous comment, it’s like Battle of the Bulge and fruitless endeavour by a desperate leaders bereft of ideas. He too had immediate gains as it was a surprise push, read up how it ended.

Erm, it’s a small amount of troops

Yes, how embarrassing that must be for Putin supporters.

who have mostly been driven back

No they haven’t, nothing in the article or other news reports say that.

and have no stronghold or defences to back them up.

Neither do the Russians in Kursk it would seem.

More cannon fodder provided by Zelensky to fuel his ego.

Funny to read a Putin supporter expressing concern about treating soldiers as cannon fodder.

You don't win a war only being defensive. You have to take the war to the enemy and make them feel the pain in their homes, businesses, and cities.

Whether this is significant or not doesn't really matter. It is psychologically significant to the Russians.

A defending country that didn't start a war isn't a regime. The country that invaded is. Russia is the regime in this situation. Putin is the leader who needs to be removed and tried along with his top aids. Jailed for life, however long or short that might be is what awaits.

Putin has a very worried look on his face. The incident brings home to the Russians that border areas are vulnerable to attacks.

The elected President Zelensky and the brave Ukrainian people have been forced to fight against the foreign invader Russia. Nearly three years of brutal attacks and destruction. Ukraine is taking the game to the Russian lands.

Ukraine crossing Russia's border is not surprising at all, is it? After all, Russia has for aggressive reasons invaded Ukraine, crossed its border while killing tens of thousands of Ukrainian civilians in the process.

From Ukraine's perspective: "If the enemy is there, I will strike him!"

What's so hard to figure out about that? If your neighbor had been in your yard for several years killing your family and friends, would you just sit around on your front porch and watch? No, Ukraine's reaction is not surprising at all.

If my enemy is there, I will strike him.

wallace

Let’s hope he doesn’t go bonkers and do something awful, we all know how he is when he gets angry.

I just wish both leaders would agree to have a civil chat with a mediator, the Pope maybe or an ex statesman.

They need to stop being silly, both have big egos and lack concern for the citizens you see.

As I said in my previous comment, it’s like Battle of the Bulge 

Differences between this and the Battle of the Bulge:

Battle of the Bulge: Germany committed over 400,000 troops to it, along with the bulk of its armor, artillery and air power.

Kursk: The article says Ukraine has committed about 1,000 troops to the operation.

Battle of the Bulge: Germany was losing massive amounts of territory rapidly and clearly losing the war.

Kursk: Ukraine hasn't lost significant territory in over two years, the war is more or less a stalemate everywhere except Kursk.

Battle of the Bulge: The Allies had a massive advantage in everything which they could redeploy to the Ardennes to defeat the German offensive.

Kursk: The Russians will no doubt cobble together enough turtle tanks and expendable Russian meat waves to stop the Ukrainians at some point, but they have nowhere near the kind of advantages the Allies had in 1944.

Battle of the Bulge: An army led by a genocidal ultranationalist fascist trying to conquer his neighbors was the one on the offensive.

Kursk: The army led by the genocidal ultranationalist fascist trying to conquer his neighbors finds itself on the defensive.

burgers and beers

OK, Mr. War Strategist, The speed with which they moved from disinterested 3rd party to critic of Ukraine. lol

Would you prefer everyone else also obediently pushed White House propaganda instead? lol

Better than Kremlin talking points...

You think so? You may be right , White House propaganda probably is better than Kremlin's. Lucky I can observe both and stay impartial then.

Or one could just ignore propaganda entirely as a means of forming one's opinion.

Clearly Russia was stung by this one.

Ukraine needs to keep doing that.

So much for the brilliant RAF mopping up the attack in hours.

falseflagsteveToday 09:24 am JST

wallace

Let’s hope he doesn’t go bonkers and do something awful, we all know how he is when he gets angry.

I just wish both leaders would agree to have a civil chat with a mediator, the Pope maybe or an ex statesman.

They need to stop being silly, both have big egos and lack concern for the citizens you see.

Is your position that countries should just give up land when attacked? How about the UK giving up Northern Ireland as that is just proving to be an albatross.

falseflagsteveToday 08:31 am JST

Rainyday

They haven’t captured the land, check how many troops are there. Naivety doesn’t win wars, ruthless leaders with many troops and weapons do.

And you want Ukraine to just hope for the best from a ruthless leader. Doesn't sound very smart.

“JJEToday  07:57 am JST

Article insinuates they "rammed" through the border. 

Nothing of the sort ever transpired. The border crossings are basically not even 'strong points'. Due to the huge distances, there are huge areas that anyone can cross.

They simply drove through north and south of the border crossing, through wooded and fielded areas and looped around it while pressing it from the front too - hardly rocket science. Russians have done this many times before.”

hey, no hard feelings! Here in the land of the free and the home of the brave we also have people that get hyped about immigration, border solutions and armed military invasions FROM OUR PREVIOUSLY PEACEFUL NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES.

oh no, no we don’t. We respect our neighbors as we learn to react ourselves and each other

so maybe the west really is different. And here I wanted to welcome you into a more open-minded way of being. Oh well. I’m gonna go buy some McDonald’s

“Respect.” I meant to write “respect ourselves and each other.” Come on thumbs, don’t fail me now

GO RUSIA FOR THE VICTORY !!!!!!!!...

"GO RUSIA FOR THE VICTORY !!!!!!!!..."

First sign of a Russian bot: can't spell its own country's name.

burgers and beersToday 12:14 pm JST

"Would you prefer everyone else also obediently pushed White House propaganda instead? lol

Better than Kremlin talking points..."

You think so? You may be right , White House propaganda probably is better than Kremlin's. Lucky I can observe both and stay impartial then.

You don't have much credibility as someone impartial, Ramsey.

burgers and beers

"Or one could just ignore propaganda entirely as a means of forming one's opinion."

Very true, my point was that pretty much all info on mainstream media is propaganda , one way or another.

But it's not.

burgers and beersToday 02:09 pm JST

So much for the brilliant RAF mopping up the attack in hours.

Who made the "hours" claim? Was it Miley again?.....that guy;)

No, it is the guy always giving us a blow by blow of villages. One of your team.

Kursk may be of symbolic significance because it was there in 1943 that the Soviets defeated the Germans in the largest tank battle in history. It was a victory, like Stalingrad, that the USSR frequently harped on. The scale is much smaller this time, but Russians are probably uncomfortable with the nasty reminder.

I do not know what Zelensky is trying to achieve in Kursk, there are many assumptions. But, the FABs are already flying to Sumy. A peaceful city is beginning to be razed to the ground. Five Ukrainian brigades, gathered from different fronts, are still keeping at the border. No one knows what plans both sides have. But some telegram sources report that Ukrainians shot defuantly several civilians. Well, Ukrainians are used to shooting civilians since 2014..

but Russians are probably uncomfortable with the nasty reminder.

It's not so much uncomfortable as symbolic. At the same time, it is quite stunning that the descendants of those Soviet soldiers who defeated the German fascists are now shooting a car with a pregnant woman in the cabin in the Kursk region. They didn't talk about it on UKR TV. I think the result of this operation will be about the same as after the Kursk battle. Kursk-2. The enemy will be defeated. Take your time.

it is quite stunning that the descendants of those Soviet soldiers who defeated the German fascists are now shooting a car with a pregnant woman in the cabin in the Kursk region.

While this isn't right, after watching the Russians do worse than this to their country and civilians for 2.5 years, is it really surprising that some Ukrainian soldiers may repay this upon Russia?

If Russia doesn't like it, maybe they should consider that they are a nation of terrorists, enacting terror like this upon Ukraine every day, for years. Can anyone say Russia doesn't entirely deserve everything the Ukrainians are doing to them?

I do not know what Zelensky is trying to achieve in Kursk

Bringing it back to Russia of course.

Punch someone in the face, don't be surprised when they kick you in the groin back.

It's funny that the Ukrainians aren't even acknowledging this. Any little thing to annoy Russia is great!

Harris is ahead of Trump by 6 points now. Harris will be the next president, which does not bode well for Russia in this war. The funding of Ukraine will continue, and Russians will continue to die for a dictator's ego.

Or not.

I could be wrong.

But it’s very rare.

A conversation between two Ukrainians on the web.

What do you think about Kursk?

What's there to think about. Do you think the Russians will give up Kursk so easily? You do understand that because of these three villages, we then have to sit without electricity for a month?

The results of the counter-terrorism operation in the Kursk region will be summed up not on the basis of fake "capture" maps that the Western press multiplies. Take your time:)

The Kursk attack was indeed counter terrorism. Russia is a terrorist state.

"Mop up" operation on day 4. Maybe they need more janitors.

PrimusinterAug. 9 07:43 pm JST

I do not know what Zelensky is trying to achieve in Kursk, there are many assumptions. But, the FABs are already flying to Sumy. A peaceful city is beginning to be razed to the ground.

And fascist Russia is the one responsible.

Five Ukrainian brigades, gathered from different fronts, are still keeping at the border. No one knows what plans both sides have. But some telegram sources report that Ukrainians shot defuantly several civilians. Well, Ukrainians are used to shooting civilians since 2014..

Invade a country and threaten its sovereignty and you rely on its good graces to respect the rules of war from that point forward.

It's not so much uncomfortable as symbolic. At the same time, it is quite stunning that the descendants of those Soviet soldiers who defeated the German fascists are now shooting a car with a pregnant woman in the cabin in the Kursk region.

I agree that Russian troops should not shoot at civilians.

They didn't talk about it on UKR TV. I think the result of this operation will be about the same as after the Kursk battle. Kursk-2. The enemy will be defeated. Take your time.

Well one can hope fascist Russia will be defeated.

It is absolutely obvious that it was the Britons who pushed the APU and Syrsky to the "Kursk Bulge" - as revenge for the CIA and FSB-SVR for the exchange deal". The text is not mine. Ukr Tg channel Mria

Sounds like you've uncovered a conspiracy.

What's there to think about. Do you think the Russians will give up Kursk so easily? You do understand that because of these three villages, we then have to sit without electricity for a month?

The RAF has proven remarkably incompetent in many different ways. Maybe don't get your energy from fascist Russia and you don't have to worry about disruptions from their illegal wars of aggression.

Four Ukrainian missiles and four aircraft-type drones were shot down over the Kursk region tonight. As a result of the debris of the drone hitting a transformer substation in one of the districts of the region, a fire broke out.

I must say that this Кursk area, Kurchatov, is the place where the Kursk nuclear power plant is located. Ukraine is intentionally sending drones to hit a nuclear power plant. And after that, will you say that Russia threatens the world with atomic weapons? No, guys, it's the Western world that threatens the world by the hands of zombie Ukrainians.

To date, Ukraine has launched 7 missiles towards the Kursk nuclear power plant. All of them are shot down. And tomorrow the IAEA will say that it has no idea who is firing at whom. Are they Eskimos?

I must say that this Кursk area, Kurchatov, is the place where the Kursk nuclear power plant is located. Ukraine is intentionally sending drones to hit a nuclear power plant. And after that, will you say that Russia threatens the world with atomic weapons? No, guys, it's the Western world that threatens the world by the hands of zombie Ukrainians.

If Russia doesn't like that, they can go home.

Otherwise quitcherwhining. The Kremlin refusing to go home is why this war keeps continuing, and any Ukrainian attack on Kremlin soil is more than justified.

Primusinter

To date, Ukraine has launched 7 missiles towards the Kursk nuclear power plant. All of them are shot down. And tomorrow the IAEA will say that it has no idea who is firing at whom. 

Kremlin talking points.

Wow, the Ukrainians have invaded Russia all the way to Lipetsk! That’s deeeeeep in Russia, past Kursk even. How did Putin let this happen? Will his generals execute him for his incompetence? Hard to know how this will hit in the upper echelons of the Kremlin, as this one has hit home hard.

Good on Ukraine!