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Russia deals symbolic blow to Ukraine with village capture

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Why is it just “symbolic” every time Ukraine loses?

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How many Russian speakers in Donetsk have been killed by Ukrainian Russian speakers supporting Russian speaking invaders? How many humans have been killed by Russians in Putin's attempts to expand Moscow's control? How many more deaths for Putin and the Kremlin?

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Very good question. It always goes from "vital hub" to "symbolic blow".

Klishchiivka has heights 215 and 223 to the W and SW of the settlement respectively. These were successfully taken by the Russians and dominate the surrounding areas, with a muddled UAF withdrawal west over the Donbass-Donets canal.

Bilogorivka will tidy up the line and was necessary housekeeping which fell because of recent redeployments as the focus moves to Donetsk and the heat in the Kharkiv kitchen gets turned up incrementally.

Both were in salients. Vovchansk city has been demoted to "village" in this article. Plenty of action not mentioned here and should be more as the summer campaign season approaches

Another issue in the news is the images of vacant public areas, usually busy, in cities and towns across Kyiv-regime-controlled zones. Men are hiding from conscription gangs.

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About the symbolism. For those who read nothing but JT.

For this small village with a pre-war population of about 500 people, Russians have been fighting with the enemy since January 2023. From the heights around Kleshcheyevka, there is a good overview of the surrounding area. They can be used to keep the surrounding highways under fire control, in particular, the important Artyomovsk - Gorlovka highway. The liberation of Kleshcheyevka will improve the tactical position of the Russian troops leading the offensive on the Chas Yar.

To the point, learn to write correctly the names of Russian settlements that have been back home, Russia. Kleshcheevka or Kleshcheyevka

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It's a looooong way to Kyiv. Russian mothers may not be happy with the cost.

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KukuToday  08:12 am JST

To the point, learn to write correctly the names of Russian settlements that have been back home, Russia. Kleshcheevka or Kleshcheyevka

They will never be recognized as such by the international community.

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Officials at the Russian-controlled Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in southern Ukraine also accused Kyiv's forces of launching a drone at the facility.It said the device hit a transport workshop but there were "no casualties or critical damage.

If it was a Russian drone hitting the NPP there would be no end to the western media outrage.

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And many more towns will be liberated..

Get used to it..

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It's a looooong way to Kyiv. Russian mothers may not be happy with the cost.

Those who are dying are the very few soldiers that the Kyiv regime has left, get used to reading more advances of the Russian army...

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Didn’t Zelensky’s elected term expire?

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Blacklabel

Didn’t Zelensky’s elected term expire?

Elections cannot be held during an invasion, mass numbers of refugees, and a constant bombardment by Russia.

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Ukraine forces are winning at all fronts towards Moscow and will prevail.

this is what you need to know if you are posting here.

otherwise you will violate local "community standards".

even reality is very very different there than pictured here almost everyday.

Kiev regime is on brink of military collapse dear as missing critical/major points

-humanpower/started to release prisoners to fight

-military skills

-will to win at the field/motivation to fight

UA economy is done,tens of millions of UA citizens lives abroad,fled country as dont want die for Kiev regime interests.for example Slovakia is registering hundreds of UA men crossing mountains and Tisa river from Zakarpatie region as they dont want die at east front,many of them are openely opposing regime in Kiev

Money alone and supplying of outdated weapons from NATO stock cant "win" this conflict for UA and west.

its about time to admit your another defeat and push your Kiev puppets to direct peace negotiation with Russia unless you are still thirsty about blood money from UA.be a human-do right thing now.

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Russia forces don't seem to be in a hurry, taking a slow roll ahead. They move ahead when risk of casualties are low, when they encounter stronger resistance, they dig in and flatten the defence. Russia has 1,000,000 FABs in stock that they can keep gliding into Ukrainian defensive positions for a couple of weeks until it is flattened and then move ahead again. Step by step, take a step forward, flatten the enemy, take another step forward into the dead zone.

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Elections cannot be held during an invasion, mass numbers of refugees, and a constant bombardment by Russia.

how convenient. So it’s a dictatorship now?

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@BL" Why is it just “symbolic”

When the globe's nation with the largest supply of nuclear weapons, a country with thermobaric weapons is taking villages after years of fighting, after losing dozens of thousands of its military personnel and millions of rubles in equipment, and there is still no end in sight for the invaders, it could well be some of Putin's fanboys see that as positive for the RF, but reasonable people question how effective the mighty RF forces might have been. Yes, I know Putin's thugs have killed lots of Ukrainian civilians and kidnapped many of their children. However that is not so mighty to reasonable people, maybe to those supporting fascism, but I've never heard them called reasonable. I know the RF could get even nastier in its pursuit of a pyhrric victory, but will the deaths of all those Russians and civilians be seen as worth it? Maybe Russia's partners the CCP think so, but I have never heard them called reasonable. except perhaps nby their online bots.

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Despite the loss, Ukraine seems to be holding on. Why does the far right like Putin? I don't get that part. But it ain't over till it's over and Russia, yes, has taken it's time. . .wasn't it supposed to be a fast war for them?

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btw did you noticed an "offer" from Germany as they wanted to deploy their rockets at soil of Slovakia to be able to shot down russian planes and rockets over UA-and guess what-slovakian gov have refused their "offer"?

there are still some people with common sense as want to avoid direct conflict NATO vs RU.

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proxyToday 10:45 am JST

Russia forces don't seem to be in a hurry, taking a slow roll ahead. They move ahead when risk of casualties are low, when they encounter stronger resistance, they dig in and flatten the defence. Russia has 1,000,000 FABs in stock that they can keep gliding into Ukrainian defensive positions for a couple of weeks until it is flattened and then move ahead again. Step by step, take a step forward, flatten the enemy, take another step forward into the dead zone.

That dead zone include Kharkiv? I thought this special military operation was about saving someone.

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UAfanToday 10:32 am JST

its about time to admit your another defeat and push your Kiev puppets to direct peace negotiation with Russia unless you are still thirsty about blood money from UA.be a human-do right thing now.

Kyiv puppets killed 100k fascists. That's pretty good for puppets I would say. Also independence needs to be forced on the table.

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Symbolic victories are the only kind the drunken rabble equipped with Russian (and Iranian and DORK crap) that make up the “mighty” Red army can win.

No wonder the fascist-adjacent love them.

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Wow so drunks with crap weapons still beat Ukraine and their $300 billion dollars of Western “game changing” weaponry and overseas training?

What exactly makes the victory described actually not valid/real and just “symbolic”?

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BlacklabelToday 11:13 am JST

Wow so drunks with crap weapons still beat Ukraine and their $300 billion dollars of Western “game changing” weaponry and overseas training?

What exactly makes the victory described actually not valid/real and just “symbolic”?

Russia claims to be a super power, so failing to completely defeat #30 on the military expenditure list is a failure no matter how you slice it.

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What exactly makes the victory described actually not valid/real and just “symbolic”?

The village the Russians just captured is Klishchiivka. It has captured Klishchiivka after 2 years and 3 months of full scale war in which Russia has suffered casualties (killed and wounded) in the hundreds of thousands. To capture Klishchiivka it has been necessary to put all of Russian society and its economy on a war footing, mobilizing all available resources to accomplish it. At the same time, in order to capture Klishchiivka it has severed virtually all economic ties with the West and turned itself into little more than an economic vassal state of China.

Klishchiivka had a pre-war population of 512 people. It is mostly made up of farmhouses. It has no discernable downtown, nor does it have any businesses or industry. Its biggest building appears to be a small church. It doesn't appear to have any traffic lights, though it may have a single stop sign on the one rural road that runs through it. This is the entirety of it on Google Maps:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Klishchiivka,+Donetsk+Oblast,+Ukraine/@48.5326238,37.9476667,3814m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x40dfdd7849c1d5b5:0x53ef76f820b344be!8m2!3d48.529039!4d37.959108!16s%2Fg%2F120vz_xx?entry=ttu

So yes, you are absolutely right. It is outrageous that the capture of such an important objective is being described as "symbolic". Clearly it is a major feat of Russian military strength that will undoubtedly change the course of the war and forever be etched in the annals of military history.

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CNN — 

There are some towns that Ukraine can just never afford to lose, and Lyptsi is one of them.

After it’s lost: in yet another symbolic victory…..blah blah

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The Ukraine commander on site disagrees with our keyboard expert:

His men were among the first to tackle Russia’s new advance into Kharkiv region nearly two weeks ago. He says they are fighting trained professional soldiers.

“We can see it from their equipment and tactics,” he says. “They’re not sending just anyone into the assaults.

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FYI: Zelensky's 5-year mandate expired last Tuesday. Him and his sponsors have used some sleight of hand and mental gymnastics with the constitution to claim he still has legitimacy - this is questionable at best because he doesn't.

The fallback narrative is "elections can't be held" but this is weaker than watery soup. Countries at war routinely hold elections.

Larger issue is future potential peace negotiations and how this complicates it. Moscow needs a legitimate partner so any agreement will be valid into the future (and keep in mind he violated and didn't implement the signed Minsk Agreements).

Basically the regime and anything they sign isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

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Blacklabel

Elections cannot be held during an invasion, mass numbers of refugees, and a constant bombardment by Russia.

how convenient. So it’s a dictatorship now?

No, it is a democratically elected government waiting for a resolution to the invasion and bombardment. Russian bombing could target polling stations.

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Blacklabel

And that’s in my free time while working full time running 3 companies.

How do you manage to find the time to post so many comments?

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Successful people don't boast about it.

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JJEToday 11:57 am JST

Larger issue is future potential peace negotiations and how this complicates it. Moscow needs a legitimate partner so any agreement will be valid into the future (and keep in mind he violated and didn't implement the signed Minsk Agreements).

Well we will all welcome the shutting of yaps on peace agreements when everyone knows that is not possible.

Basically the regime and anything they sign isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

Will a general next march on Kyiv?

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The fallback narrative is "elections can't be held" but this is weaker than watery soup. Countries at war routinely hold elections.

Looking around I can't find a single instance in which a country that was in the midst of being invaded and had a significant proportion of its territory and population under foreign control held a nationwide election. The examples of "countries at war routinely" holding elections I can find are things like the US holding presidential elections during the Iraq war, etc which are completely meaningless comparisons for reasons that should be obvious.

if you have an example of a democratic country holding a nationwide election in circumstances even remotely similar to Ukraine's current situation that I have missed then please share it.

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