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© 2023 AFPRussia denies Ukraine conflict at 'stalemate'
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ok1517
Of course Russia denies.
They deny anything and everything that doesn't suit them!
They deny terrorizing Ukrainians.
They deny destroying civilian infrastructure.
They deny deporting Ukrainians (children).
They deny their raping, looting, killing, torturing in Ukraine.
They deny, deny, deny ......
Every denial by Russia is nothing but cooking up more lies.
Ukraine prevails!
2020hindsights
Yup, and the only progress they are making is losing troop lives and equipment.
PTownsend
Who knows what the truth of the status currently is, or where things might go, but "Russia denies conflict at stelemate" makes me think things might not be going well for the invaders. Recall Putin, and the Kremlin claimed they were not going to invade Ukraine, instead were conducting a military operation. In other words, I don't think either side has great credibility but anything coming from Putin's Potemkin state needs to be questioned.
UChosePoorly
In your estimation, has any assistance sent to Ukraine helped to forestall the RuAF from running roughshod over the UA forces?
NotThe One
If Russia is deny something, it is probably true.
lincolnman
Unlike everything else that comes out of the Kremlin's propaganda factory, there may be some truth to this...
The truth is the Russians are getting their clock cleaned....just ask the sailors on the Moskva - the few that survived...
UChosePoorly
They have a very weird way of showing their brotherly love. I don’t believe the Ukrainians feel the same way about the invaders and that is why Russia will not take the entirety of those four oblasts. That’s my prediction. Hold me to it. Do you have a prediction when the Russians will conquer those four? I am curious as to what your prediction is.
UChosePoorly
Armed Forces of Ukraine
ClippetyClop
Since you are a fiercely illiterate supporter of the invasion that is spilling that blood then you aren't really qualified to talk about peace.
Get used to being bogged down in Ukraine, like you were in Afghanistan, until you get bored of cheering on the corpse count and make a hasty retreat into your impoverished crumbling empire.
UChosePoorly
Eastman - what is your prediction as to when Russia will take the entirety of the 4 targeted oblasts?
UChosePoorly
Blacklabel - when you find yourself agreeing with the Russians and Chinese on these boards and supporting policies that benefit them, you might want to question why that is.
UChosePoorly
So then to what do you attribute Russia’s inability to conquer the entirety of those four oblasts?
UChosePoorly
Relax, Blacklabel. We won the first Cold War and we will win the second. It wasn’t cheap or quick to win the first one, either, but we prevailed over the USSR. Also, the RF is much smaller and weaker than the USSR was. Not our rival anymore.
Bob Fosse
‘Sleepy’ Russia? Simpin’ for the man is ‘week’.
stormcrow
You’re in your neighbor’s house and they sure as hell don’t want you there. Get out!
UChosePoorly
Russia is, or soon will be, more of a junior partner to China, so we will not just ignore their aggression any more than we will ignore Chinese aggression of our allies.
John
For starters, it repulsed the attempt to over run the capital. Its president is still in power. The plan to invade Odessa was thwarted. The Black Sea “fleet” is no longer operational in its namesake body of water.
And that’s just off the top of my head.
In addition, the UA pierced the Russian defensive lines and has made the continued occupation of Crimea questionable at best.
So, just because the UA is not rambling along the countryside like Dessert Storm does not equal a stalemate.
Of course this one would have given in to the Axis powers in WWII in the name of “peace”, so everything they say should be taken with a bill let of salt.
UChosePoorly
What I mean by ‘not our rival’ is that our rival is now China. If these countries don’t want to lose the next Cold War, then they shouldn’t be starting one.
John
Not a stalemate!
So says the double for the perhaps dead fascist dictator who, nearly 2 years and 200k plus dead (1/2 it’s front line tanks, the majority of the combat power of its Bkack sea “fleet”, etc., etc., etc.,,,) , has yet to achieve a single strategic objective of its “special military operation.”
GBR48
Classic stalemate. Will probably continue until the nuclear plant goes pop and large areas have to be evacuated. Then both sides will claim victory.
Until then, it will soak up military gear and cash and generate conflict levels of carbon emissions and human misery.
Blacklabel
Makes zero sense what you attempting to say.
your guy said Russia not even our rival anymore.
if so we can just ignore them and stop paying Ukraine to “weaken” them for us.
Blacklabel
The West didn’t pay all that money for a stalemate.
Blacklabel
That Time magazine article was the beginning of the end.
Blacklabel
What objective has Ukraine achieved? Zero. So “stalemate”
ukraine really seems they have no value to us anymore. Less and less Ukraine flags on X, more resistance to paying them again, less and less visible Zelensky.
media actually published that Time article, unheard of even 6 months ago to even think of publishing that.
So time to move on to our new “real” rival, China?
Who can the West pay to fight them?
Blacklabel
Remember the whole lame justification for this being ok even if Ukraine doesn’t win is that “muh we are weakening Russia!”
you don’t need to weaken someone who isn’t your rival who is already week.