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Putin says Russia has sufficient stockpile of cluster bombs

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“Until now, we have not done this, we have not used it, and we have not had such a need,” he said.

The anti-west warmongers might believe Putin and the Kremlin, but

Since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine on February 24, 2022, Russian armed forces have used cluster munitions in attacks that have caused hundreds of civilian casualties and damaged civilian objects, including homes, hospitals, and schools

https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/05/29/cluster-munition-use-russia-ukraine-war

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Poo tin’s usual disinformation and dissimulation, the russian murderers have been documented using cluster munitions against civilian and urban targets from the outset of their attempted land grab, so the demented dwarf in the kremlin is just threatening to continue in the same barbaric and vile behaviour they have been doing. Meaningless hot air from the poison dwarf.

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The corporate media always claims that Zelensky is just one weapon's shipment away from victory but that's a lie, they've lied from the start.

Do you think it's a global conspiracy? A deep-state cabal? That the man is keeping down the truth? And how do you suppose this cabal communicates with each other in such a manner that we have none of their communications?

It's a very interesting conspiracy you have a theory on.

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Ukraine has no path to victory ,it mirred In Russian Minefield

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The corporate media always claims that Zelensky is just one weapon's shipment away from victory but that's a lie, they've lied from the start.

Which corporate media is claiming that? I haven’t seen, heard or read that once.

Where can we get the truth?

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Even if that were true and they weren't being used for some unknown reason, he'd have to get them to the front and use them effectively.

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reserves the right to take reciprocal action” if Ukraine uses the controversial weapons.

The weak threat from a weak man. The Russians have already been using cluster munitions and there is abundant evidence.

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while Kiev is suffering massive casualties charging heavily fortified positions.

Evidence please.

Entire divisions are refusing Zelensky's order to attack because it's suicide for them to enter the attrition zones that the Russians have set up

Really? Evidence please because the reportage from numerous sources including russian milbloggers contradicts this.

It's time to end this with a negotiated ceasefire

Dead easy for this entire debacle to end all it requires is the murderous little thug in the kremlin to order his gaggle of rapists to return to russia.

The Global South needs food

Wouldn’t be short if poo tin hadn’t launched his imperialist colonial land grab, there wouldn’t be any internal or external refugees and there wouldn’t be over 200,000 (and climbing) russian boys dead or Ukrainian children murdered either.

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“reserves the right to take reciprocal action” - PUTAin.

Fact is that Russians used cluster munitions first, and not only in Ukraine!

So, get over it, bunker rat, you get what you deserve!

Ukraine prevails!

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It's time to end this with a negotiated ceasefire.

Nope. Nice try though. You don’t get to tap out just yet.

Ukraine ceases firing when you cease invading.

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“Until now, we have not done this, we have not used it, and we have not had such a need,” he said.

This is gaslighting now, because people can see videos of cluster bombs being used on civilians in cities from the start of the war.

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Putin boasts of having cluster bombs…

Yes, we know! Putin has been using them since last year, and on cities too!

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It's time to end this with a negotiated ceasefire.

And a Russian exit, and payment of reparations.

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Lviv and Kiev cities seem like good places for Russia to host them if Ukraine hosts them in newly joined Russian regions.

but best thing would be peace. 100%.

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but best thing would be peace. 100%.

Very true. And we will have peace tomorrow if Russia turns around, tucks tail, and leaves.

Remember, the Ukrainians can only end this war by killing every Russian soldier in the country, whereas Russia can end the war by going home. Or staying and dying.

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As many as 86,500 civilians have been killed by cluster bombs since World War II, and many more have been maimed, according to Amnesty International. 

why America has to care about civilians. Weapons are money.

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Strangeland,do you believe,what wrote is gonna happen,not in your lifetime

They also said Russia would take over Kyiv in 72 hours. How did that work out for Putin?

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but best thing would be peace. 100%.

Supporting an invasion but wanting peace.

Vatniks have deep issues.

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Russian President Vladimir Putin said in an interview published Sunday that Moscow has a “sufficient stockpile” of cluster munitions, and warned that Russia “reserves the right to take reciprocal action” if Ukraine uses the controversial weapons.

In the Potemkin Village of lies that is the Kremlin, what this really means is Putin threatening to use them against Wagner or any of his own Generals that are thinking of revolting and marching on Moscow...

Putin has shown the world, and especially his other fellow dictators (Xi, Erodogan, the Mullahs), how weak he really is - mutineers who killed his own troops and took over a city - and he's giving them all a pardon rather than putting them before a firing squad? What real "strong man" does that?

And Russian Generals are all "disappearing" one after another....and it isn't because of Zelensky...

Wouldn't it be ironic if after ordering all his opponents assassinated, Putin himself is done in with a few dabs of Novichuk?

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Where can we get the truth?

Hardly anywhere, Jimizo. Do u need the truth? I doubt. Any lie suits ya here, as long as you like it.

Today, Ukrainians in Lugansk have already used cluster shells in residential areas. It's like a weapon of despair, because there are no successes at the frontline.

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It's like a weapon of despair, because there are no successes at the frontline.

That's what the Putin propaganda machine is pushing. Were you pushing the same agenda as Putin's propaganda machine intentionally, or was it just coincidence?

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Where can we get the truth?

Hardly anywhere, Jimizo.

So where can we get it?

Any lie suits ya here

Overdoing the ‘ya’. Sounds a bit childish.

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Cluster bomb was explained in a movie, "The Fog of War" . . . in which the munition creates successive explosions, causing multiple injuries and deaths to the victims, . . . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_munition

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Maybe if Putin has done a decapitation strike,it would of been over,it still possible with Ukraine delusional beliefs in the fairy western arm,only negotiation will bring this war too a end

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That's what the Putin propaganda machine is pushing. Were you pushing the same agenda as Putin's propaganda machine intentionally, or was it just coincidence?

don't shout so loud. I'm not deaf:) No, I just read the telegram, the latest news. I can give you a full summary here:)

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Maybe if Putin has done a decapitation strike,it would of been over

Putin did - he tried to take over Kyiv in 72 hours.

The problem is, the Russian army is pretty weak, and couldn't do it.

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I just read the telegram, the latest news. I can give you a full summary here:)

You already are...

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don't shout so loud. I'm not deaf:) No, I just read the telegram, the latest news. I can give you a full summary here:)

I think the walls have closed in on your seriousness here.

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According The New York Times, the Ukrainian army was using cluster bombs in Donetsk, as far back in 2014. I don't think anyone can claim the moral high ground when using these indiscriminate weapons.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/21/world/ukraine-used-cluster-bombs-report-charges.html

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Putin, instead of retreating, stepping back, continues to make statements to continue the war, by using more weapons, to cause more deaths and destruction, this is insane, a tough decision must be made, and actions taken by world peace leaders that still have the mission to protect the free world. Inflation has been hitting hard all countries, this crazy war is causing damage worldwide. Enough is enough, the reasonable time to stop this has passed away times ago.

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Putin, instead of retreating, stepping back, continues to make statements to continue the war, by using more weapons, to cause more deaths and destruction, this is insane, a tough decision must be made, and actions taken by world peace leaders that still have the mission to protect the free world.

Have you not been reading the news for the past year? How have you missed that the world leaders are doing exactly that? They've been making the hard decisions.

Honest question, how have you missed over a year's worth of news?

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reserves the right to take reciprocal action

Russia invading, reserves the right to take reciprocal action. That’s up there with the stupidest things I’ve ever heard.

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A decapitation strike involved taking out a government the ability to function as a legitimate government,how the US destroyed Iraq command and control, leaving Saddam without legitimate government Google Decapitation Strike Command and Control

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A decapitation strike involved taking out a government the ability to function as a legitimate government

Yeah, Putin tried that. Thought he was going to do it in 72 hours, but the Russian army is pretty weak, and 500+ days later are losing ground and still haven't made it to Kyiv.

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Yrral - You thought what the US did to Iraq in 2003 was a good thing? That may explain why you want the Russian invaders to win. How about countries just don't invade other countries?

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There are children and farmers experiencing the "joys" of cluster munitions, mines and unexploded bombs every week in Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam. These are from the 1970's. The dud rate from cluster bombs makes them the worst. They also look like toys to small children.

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Mr Kipling

There are children and farmers experiencing the "joys" of cluster munitions, mines and unexploded bombs every week in Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam. These are from the 1970's. The dud rate from cluster bombs makes them the worst. They also look like toys to small children.

The same with minefields. Both sides are using mines extensively, I wonder why nobody is talking about it.

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500 days of misery , brought to Ukraine leadership with no end in sight,the majority of people do not support Putin,but see this war as lost cause on both sides

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action and reaction.

Very thoughtful, Eastman.

the UA is going to use cluster munitions and the Russians will react by dying in large numbers.

Thou art truly a sage of "wisdom"

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Makoto, Ukraine never believed in freedom and Japanese only experience limited freedom,compared even to some third world countries

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Ukraine never believed in freedom

The country that has literally been fighting a war for its freedom for over a year never believed in it. MMkay...

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Including by The Associated Press and international humanitarian organizations

i.e. by a US-based lying propaganda outfit and by lying, US and Western European based propaganda outfits.

Putin did say the much-vaunted Western "wonder weapons" are inferior to their Soviet equivalents, let alone latest Russian equivalents but the British Challenger tanks are a different beast. The Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman, Mrs Zakharova, stated the ability of the British Challenger tanks to avoid combat is very impressive.

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The country that has literally been fighting a war for its freedom for over a year never believed in it.

Freedom for who and to do what?

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Freedom for who and to do what?

Freedom from their citizens not being executed in the streets by a foreign invader of course.

Question, how have you not read any news in the past year? I don't understand how someone could be this clueless on a topic they are commenting on.

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i.e. by a US-based lying propaganda outfit and by lying, US and Western European based propaganda outfits.

That's the agenda that the Putin propaganda machine is pushing.

Are you intentionally pushing the same narrative as the Putin propaganda brigade, or is it just coincidence?

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Name one Western freedom practice in Ukraine,it not liberty or Equality and Justice for All ,core values of a free country

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By the way Ukraine do not have a free press,thank to Zelensky

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Putin will use the Wagner group to invade the Suwalki corridor - strategically important land to connect Belarus with Kaliningrad. That would be a direct attack against NATO.

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By the way Ukraine do not have a free press

Ukraine isn't even free, it's under martial law.

Google it.

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Reuters reports that Germany has only 20 000 high explosive artillery shells left. It is not enough to comply with NATO standards. Is it really so? It seems that Germany were demilitarized as well in passing :)

Today again Bradley and 3 leopards were shot down. The Russians are going to put all your captured tanks in front of your embassies in Moscow. Excellent free advertising of your military goods on the market.

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Today again Bradley and 3 leopards were shot down. The Russians are going to put all your captured tanks in front of your embassies in Moscow. Excellent free advertising of your military goods on the market.

Is it just coincidence you are pushing the same agenda as the Putin propaganda machine, or coincidence?

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Strangeland,do Putin run Fox news,hell no ,this is a free news outlets,that by law can generally say anything they want ,until they get sued

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russian reaction is just equal reaction to UA side proving that Russia is ready and wont step back.and UA will get more desperate soon.

This is what Putin's propaganda brigade is pushing on the world to cover the truth that Putin wanted to invade a foreign nation and take its resources, in an attempt to push Russian borders closer to NATO.

Were you intentionally pushing the same agenda as Putin's propaganda machine? And was it with the same intent as them, to cover the truth?

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You can't shoot down a tank. It does not fly.

Today again Bradley and 3 leopards were shot down.

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Wallace,when is the last

-5 ( +2 / -7 )

Strangeland,do Putin run Fox news,hell no ,this is a free news outlets,that by law can generally say anything they want ,until they get sued

Really? Google "Fox news pays $787 million".

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Ukraine never believed in freedom

Ukraine does not know what your "freedom" is.

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Ukraine does not know what your "freedom" is.

Do you think Russians understand freedom?

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Putin would say anything.

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You can't shoot down a tank. It does not fly

Don't you have anything else to cling to? U will say it when your damaged equipment will be lying in front of your embassy in Moscow. So better go to read the telegram.

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Don't you have anything else to cling to? U will say it when your damaged equipment will be lying in front of your embassy in Moscow. So better go to read the telegram.

Ohhh, Russia is so scary with their three-day takeover of Kyiv.

That happened right?

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Neither Russia or Ukraine has the same concept of freedom as the west.

You don't think the west considers freedom to be the lack of an occupying foreign invader in their own land?

Baffling.

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Strangeland,you said itself , Ukraine is not free,so they are not fighting for freedom

I didn't say that google "did Strangerland say that?"

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Do you think Russians understand freedom?

Russians have their own idea of freedom. Just like the Ukrainians. Your representations and Russian-Ukrainian are on parallel surfaces. They don't overlap. It does not mean that they are wrong.

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Just like the Ukrainians.

Pretty sure the Ukrainians' idea of freedom doesn't involve subjugation and conquest by Russia.

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Russians have their own idea of freedom.

Yes, Russia considers freedom to be the freedom to invade a foreign nation and execute its civilians in the streets.

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So far, we've been told that supplying White Bloc short range artillery to the Kyiv regime would definitely be a gamechanger, it wasn't.

We've been told that supplying White Bloc older armored vehicles to the Kyiv regime would definitely be a gamechanger, it wasn't.

We've been told that supplying older White Bloc tanks to the Kyiv regime would definitely be a gamechanger, it wasn't.

We've been told that supplying White Bloc high tech artillery to the Kyiv regime would definitely be a gamechanger, it wasn't.

We've been told that supplying White Bloc top of the line armored vehicles and tanks would definitely be a gamechanger, it wasn't.

Now we're being told that supplying America's illegal cluster weapons to resupply the Kyiv regime that has fired off all the ones it had will definitely be a gamechanger, and if it isn't, what will be next, White Bloc soldiers?

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U,the Ukrainlan are pretty much under subjugation by the regime in Kiev ,with no free election and no freedom to leave Ukraine

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Yrral - they are being invaded and are under martial law because of that. That would happen in pretty much any country that is being invaded by their much larger neighbor. They don't want to be under Russian domination any more than you or I do.

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U,the Ukrainlan are pretty much under subjugation by the regime in Kiev ,with no free election and no freedom to leave Ukraine

Ukraine under martial law google ukraine under martial law

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CBs are all cool now right?

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Surrendering your nuclear arsenal to Russia didn't ensure Ukrainian freedom

It threw it away.

You don't know much about the history of this issue. First study, and then approve something. Between these two events there was, at least, Maidan, an illegal coup d'etat. He cancelled all the arrangements.

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Yes Russia used cluster munitions in Ukraine but they were incendiary munitions and not bombs.

Some don’t understand the difference

That's what Putin's propaganda machine is pushing.

Interesting to hear you pushing the same agenda. Very coincidental.

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US is supplying the lost cause of Ukraine with cluster ammunition which is illegal to be used in war and Putin is responding that they too will respond with cluster bombs which is both sides are going create one big mess. No win for either side.

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I have never lived under martial law, even during COVID lock down or war

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Everyone already knows my truth.

Favorite phrase of Ukrainians:) Are you using the same manual or something? Just say the phrase more often and then you will definitely get Canadian citizenship. Try harder!

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US is supplying the lost cause of Ukraine

The Russian propaganda machine is pushing the agenda that Ukraine is a lost cause. Are you intentionally pushing their agenda, or is it just coincidence?

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That tells it all, doesn’t it? Free countries have stockpiles of useful goods, products, technology and plenty of services, while those dictatorships have nothing or so much more than stockpiles of destruction means, tanks, jets, missiles, bombs. So this is one of the most reliable indicators, when someone is proudly telling to have many cluster bombs.

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Favorite phrase of Ukrainians

Well no, it was a fact of the matter. If you asked for a link to prove the sky was blue, I'd look at you as equally stupid for saying I need to show a link to prove that Putin said he was going to take over Kyiv in 72 hours.

Just say the phrase more often and then you will definitely get Canadian citizenship.

I'm studying!

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Cluster bombs in use:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1680539887596961792

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Kuku

Today again Bradley and 3 leopards were shot down. The Russians are going to put all your captured tanks in front of your embassies in Moscow. Excellent free advertising of your military goods on the market.

Luckily there is an endless supply of these from the West. When an army is on attack, compared to defence, you expect to have higher losses. However, Russia is currently losing 3 times as many military vehicles than Ukraine according to Oryx.

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Total bluff. Russia has already used cluster munitions, and it is unclear how much remains. Russia is increasingly relying on older stocks of munitions and equipment, some of which were not stored indoors and are mostly unusable. Russian rate of artillery fire is down 75% and they are using 40-year old shells. Meanwhile, Ukraine, with its new Western made equipment can target Russian artillery at a relatively safe distance and are taking out Russian artillery and munitions. The tide has turned and many Russian commanders know this, and is why there is increasing dissent among their ranks as they realize the war is unwinnable. If the Russian MOD fractures it will spell disaster for Putin and an opportunity for others like Pregozhin. Just a question of when.

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Total bluff. Russia has already used cluster munitions, and it is unclear how much remains. Russia is increasingly relying on older stocks of munitions and equipment, some of which were not stored indoors and are mostly unusable. Russian rate of artillery fire is down 75% and they are using 40-year old shells. Meanwhile, Ukraine, with its new Western made equipment can target Russian artillery at a relatively safe distance and are taking out Russian artillery and munitions. The tide has turned and many Russian commanders know this, and is why there is increasing dissent among their ranks as they realize the war is unwinnable. If the Russian MOD fractures it will spell disaster for Putin and an opportunity for others like Pregozhin.

Just a question of when.

and if!

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Kuku

Surrendering your nuclear arsenal to Russia didn't ensure Ukrainian freedom

It threw it away.

You don't know much about the history of this issue. First study, and then approve something. Between these two events there was, at least, Maidan, an illegal coup d'etat.

The Maidan wasn't an illegal coup d'etat. It was a popular uprising triggered by Yanukovych reversal on joining the EU, which ended in Yanukovych fleeing to Russia.

He cancelled all the arrangements.

Illegally, of course.

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In whatever tests the US military ran on their cluster bombs, they couldn't manage to get the civilian killer rate (what they so innocuously call duds) down to their own target rate.

Now, in the real world, everyone but the shills expect the civilian killer rate to be over 10% of each bomb's payload of hundreds to thousands of people killers.

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It was a popular uprising

What legislative document has such a definition?

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What legislative document has such a definition?

Why does it need to be a legislative document?

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Mother Russia has gigantic amounts of resources, territory and weaponry..

In addition to the immense patience of Lord Putin, which the pathetic west tests with every stupidity does to please the regime in Kyiv's pathetic whims..

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Mother Russia has gigantic amounts of resources, territory and weaponry..

And even with that, their "72-hour invasion of Kyiv" still hasn't accomplished it 500 plus days later.

Is there any other way to define abject failure?

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RichardPearce

In whatever tests the US military ran on their cluster bombs, they couldn't manage to get the civilian killer rate (what they so innocuously call duds) down to their own target rate.

Now, in the real world, everyone but the shills expect the civilian killer rate to be over 10% of each bomb's payload of hundreds to thousands of people killers.

The 'dud' rate is 2.35% - significantly lower than the Russian cluster munitions.

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People will believe anything the media tells them.

our dud rate is lower than their dud rate!

unless yours is 0% what does it matter??

Media already reporting 2 kids injured by unexploded munitions.

of course it’s supposedly Russian munitions, right?

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Blacklabel

unless yours is 0% what does it matter??

The lower the percentage the better. It means that the US DPICM are way less likely to kill civilians than the Russian cluster munitions.

Media already reporting 2 kids injured by unexploded munitions.

Considering Russia have been using cluster munitions on civilian targets since the start of the war, it's not surprising. They are also reporting civilians killed by Russian drones and missiles.

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The lower the percentage the better

It’s 0% if you don’t use them. The best percentage.

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Blacklabel

The lower the percentage the better

It’s 0% if you don’t use them. The best percentage.

Seems like you are trying to turn something that has shades of grey into black and white. I notice you do this often.

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The dud rate of 40% for Russian munitions is still lower than the dud rate for his fan bois.

I see all the traffic on the land bridge to Crimea has been stopped.

Surely that’s nothing for mini-me and his band of strategists to worry about…. And

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The UA is going to win. The Russians are going to lose. And, no. The neither the Russians nor their cats paw “militia” are taking the gap.

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