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Russia has yet to slow a Western arms express into Ukraine

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By ROBERT BURNS

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thought this was going to be a 1 week war , opps operation, according to the Putin

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The short answer to the question is that they are an epically incompetent army badly led from the very top,” said James Stavridis, a retired U.S. Navy admiral who was the top NATO commander in Europe from 2009 to 2013.

A damning condemnation of Russian military incompetence and over bravado.

Of course the pro-putin minority will dismiss his remarks just as they dismissed US satellite and intelligence information, except when they want to quote other US military specialists and satellite information that fits their twisted agenda.

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Keep them coming.

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They’re also getting plenty of Russian armaments, thanks to russkie soldiers abandoning or surrendering them.

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With all these weapons and higher morale I can't see Russia defeating Ukraine with conventional warfare. Russia's A plan didn't work and now there is no element of surprise. I don't think Putin's B plan in the east will work anywhere near well enough for him to claim victory. Just hope his C plan doesn't include nukes.

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Yup. Buy Raytheon and General Dynamics and Northrop. Why this war will go on a long time.

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@wakarimasen

if Putin withdrew his invading army from Ukraine, the war would be over.

so if you’re gonna whinge & complain, direct it to Moscow

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Whinge and complain?

If Putin withdraws the conflict will continue in Donbass and Luhansk as it was before he invaded. Sending weapons never ends a war........

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Whinge and complain?

If Putin withdraws the conflict will continue in Donbass and Luhansk as it was before he invaded. Sending weapons never ends a war........

If Putin withdraws, the war - which is WAY bigger than the conflict that was simmering in Donbass before February 24 - is over.

That is a good thing. I support doing what can be done to bring about that occurrence.

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congrats you just jinxed it

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I agree. Wasn't simmering in Donbass. almost 20,000 civilian casualties, and likely way more to come once this particular conflict subsides.

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if Putin withdraws the conflict will continue in Donbass and Luhansk as it was before he invaded. Sending weapons never ends a war........

So you have a problem with Ukraine fighting to keep it's sovereign territory intact? Did you also support independence for Chechnya? Or did you support Moscow fighting to keep ITS territory intact?

Russia should have insisted on Russian citizens or pro Russians in Donbas imigrating to Russia instead of beginning a terrorist war to break part of Ukraine territory away from it. But since when can you accuse Russia of doing the right thing and what is best for people. If it had there would be hundreds of thousands of people still alive and many more not injured from warfare it supported from the beginning.

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Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

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Sending weapons never ends a war........

invading sovereign countries usually starts a war…..

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Putin is worried. Russia is losing. Ukraine is much more stronger than the children in Putins army. Too bad this had to go on this long but Go! Go! Ukraine!

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Wasn't simmering in Donbass. almost 20,000 civilian casualties

Almost all of which were suffered in 2014. In the years leading up to Putin's invasion the frontline had stabilized and there was very little fighting, mostly limited to soldiers in the trenches taking pot-shots at each other.

So yeah, it was a "simmering" conflict, not a raging one until Putin decided to invade and turn it into one.

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USA loves to sell or gift weapons and vaccines and drugs .

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USA loves to sell or gift weapons and vaccines and drugs .

Russia does too. Is there a point to your statement?

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I am surprised the Russians haven't bombed & destroyed all the railway lines into Ukraine.

It sounds like a railway line in Belgorod, Russia, was a victim of sabotage. By whom is not yet known.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/12/key-russian-railway-bridge-destroyed-in-belgorod-border-region-with-ukraine

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I am surprised the Russians haven't bombed & destroyed all the railway lines into Ukraine.

Missiles will only damage small sections of line and in this day and age it can be repaired within 24 hrs. The cost of the smart munitions would be anywhere from 250,000 to 2 mil dollars each. Hardly worth the expense.

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@Peter14

Did you also support independence for Chechnya?

What for? There is no independence movement in Chechnya. Counter-terrorist units from Chechnya now are deployed at Mariupol, very effectively neutralizing Azov nazis.

Or did you support Moscow fighting to keep ITS territory intact?

What did NATO do when the Yugoslavian Army was fighting to keep ITS territory intact? Or when the Libyan Army was fighting for ITS territory?

Russia should have insisted on Russian citizens or pro Russians in Donbas imigrating to Russia

Why? The population of Donbass lived on its territory for generations. The unhinged Ukronazi who seized power in the 2014 coup d'etat just should not have attack Donbass with their "Be Ukrainian or be dead" extermination policy, there would not be any war at all.

@rainyday

Almost all of which were suffered in 2014

Not even one tear was shed by the present Ukrainian regime supporters over the Donbass people killed by the regime butchers since 2014. By the way, in this February the regime forces on some days fired more than a thousand of artillery shells on Donbass population. "Simmering conflict"? Yeah, sure.

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Well, looks like those weapons are not helping much then.

"A Briton who has been fighting with the Ukrainian armed forces in the besieged city of Mariupol has been forced to surrender along with his unit to the Russians because they have run out of food and ammunition."

"https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/12/british-man-fighting-in-ukraine-forced-to-surrender-to-russians"

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What for? There is no independence movement in Chechnya.

Not since they were all murdered and massacred. Perhaps Ukraine should have done the same in Donbas region?

What did NATO do when the Yugoslavian Army was fighting to keep ITS territory intact? Or when the Libyan Army was fighting for ITS territory?

Sorry what? Yugoslavian army or Serbian?

"During the breakup of Yugoslavia, initially, the Yugoslav People's Army (JNA) sought to preserve the unity of the whole of Yugoslavia by crushing the secessionist governments, but it increasingly came under the influence of the Serbian government of Slobodan Milošević, which evoked Serbian nationalism to replace the weakening communist system. As a result, the JNA began to lose Slovenes, Croats, Kosovo Albanians, Bosniaks, and Macedonians, and as a result, it effectively became a Serb army.[16] According to a 1994 United Nations report, the Serb side did not aim to restore Yugoslavia; instead, it aimed to create a Greater Serbia from parts of Croatia and Bosnia."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_Wars

NATO was not involved until after Yugoslavia broke apart. Except to offer humanitarian support and calls for peace and not targeting civilians.

Why? The population of Donbass lived on its territory for generations.

And they no longer wanted to live in Ukraine. The territory belongs to the nation not to the few people who want to be part of another foreign nation. Many thousands of Ukrainians were forced to become refugees in their own country and forced out of Donbas by pro Russians. You never mention the ones who did not want this in Donbas. Only ever from the Russian perspective.

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Why? The population of Donbass lived on its territory for generations.

Actually over 400 years.

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The territory belongs to the nation not to the few people who want to be part of another foreign nation

The UN Charter suggests it's up to the people of any place. Article 1: the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples

Territorial nationalism would seem to go against that principal. It could even be used to justify China's claim on Taiwan.

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@Peter14

Not since they were all murdered and massacred

Who are "they"? The population of present Chechnya is bigger than in 90s, and units of ethnic Chechen fighters are a part of the Russian Army.

Sorry what? Yugoslavian army or Serbian?

If you use Wiki, read it carefully. Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) existed till 2003.

Except to offer humanitarian support and calls for peace and not targeting civilians

Read about bombings of Belgrad in 1999. By the way, why not to give Kosovo Albanians the same advice you give to the people of Donbass? To go back to Albania, not to steal Serbian territory?

Many thousands of Ukrainians were forced to become refugees in their own country and forced out of Donbas by pro Russian

Many thousands of Ukrainians were forced to become refugees in their own country and forced out of central and western Ukraine by pro-regime death squads. Why you never mention them? Only ever from the anti-Russian perspective.

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Many thousands of Ukrainians were forced to become refugees in their own country and forced out of central and western Ukraine by pro-regime death squads. Why you never mention them? Only ever from the anti-Russian perspective.\

Perhaps because it is fake Russian generated rubbish.

If you use Wiki, read it carefully. Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) existed till 2003.

Yugoslavia broke apart and Serbia wanted to hang on to the name of a dead nation to gain whatever advantage it could. The country was long gone by then.

There is always going to be unrest when people discriminate against others. Sorry that I support freedom and democracy over oppression and communist behavior. I am anti Russian because its is run as a dictatorship that rigs elections and imprisons any popular opposition.

The difference I see is Russia is an aggressor, Serbia "was" an aggressor and nations that operate like that get no respect or sympathy.

Who are "they"? The population of present Chechnya is bigger than in 90s, and units of ethnic Chechen fighters are a part of the Russian Army.

The people of Chechnya who wanted independence. The Grozny massacre carried out by the Russian army when it leveled the city murdering its inhabitants. Maybe you didnt hear about that in Russia, as they dont like painful truths to be reported.

Yes, I fully admit I am currently anti Putin, anti Putin supporters and anti Russian's who carry out Putin's murders. I believe nothing coming from Russian sources controlled by that corrupt state. Not one word. As you are a pro Putin supporter I take what you say as fake, biased and unbelievable. Sorry to say but on matters concerning Russia I would say you are not a credible source of reliable information or opinion.

Ukraine should be free to decide its future. Ukraine should be free to deal with its internal matters according to it's laws. People who do not want to live under Ukraine laws should be free to leave or to stay and use the political system to legally alter unpopular laws.

Russia is not the victim of anything or anyone but Vladimir Putin. The pro Russians living in Ukraine are not victims or anything other than not wanting to live under Ukraine rules. They are free to move to any nation willing to take them.

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Russia is not losing the war. To think so is delusional. They have taken the south and east of the country and are preparing to either capture or kill the bulk of the Ukrainian army in the east. Has it taken longer and been at greater cost than anticipated? Who knows, my guess is yes. But they will be taking the whole of the Dombass in the very near future. Hopefully peace negotiations can prevent the pointless loss of life. The weapons that get through without being destroyed will not change the course of the conflict, but only prolong the suffering on both sides.

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Russia is not losing the war. To think so is delusional. They have taken the south and east of the country and are preparing to either capture or kill the bulk of the Ukrainian army in the east.

Russia "prepared" to take Kiev and other cities to bring about regime change and they were thwarted. They will be thwarted in taking all of Donbas and of killing Ukrainian forces in the East that will now be reinforced with veteran soldiers from other battles and areas of Ukraine. As more armored vehicles are donated to the Ukrainians they will engage in offensive battles to recover ground temporarily taken by Russian forces. Russia will call for a cease fire, to reorganize and resupply but Ukraine will say, not until you leave Ukraine, all of it.

The Ukraine people have fought and died to keep their country and that they will achieve. In the end Putin will leave tail between legs, or be deposed from power in Russia. This conflict only suceeded in killing many people from both sides, to show just how treacherous Russia really is, and how strong the resolve of the Ukraine people to be free actually is.

A long road ahead still to travel. But it has not, and will not end the way Russia wanted. Their world image is shot to pieces. The view of their strength is shattered. All they have is WMD and some nice equipment but their army and air force is poorly trained, motivated and lead. Nothing positive for Russia in this at all, unless it ends in Putin's removal.

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@Peter14

Perhaps because it is fake Russian generated rubbish

Tell it to the many thousands of people who lost their lives to actions of the regime-supported death squads or even SBU (Ukrainian Gestapo). Obviously you don' t want to know about the massacre at Odessa on May 2, 2014, when anti-regime activists were burning alive in a building and hordes of Ukronazi thugs, chanting "Heil to Ukraine", were clubbing to death anybody who tried to flee from the building (all that was on TV live).

Yugoslavia broke apart and Serbia wanted to hang on to the name of a dead nation

It's not up to NATO to decide. Serbs were dedending their land from invaders.

The Grozny massacre carried out by the Russian army

And here is an excellent example of "fake Western generated rubbish". If were want to know about city massacres, read about Mosul.

People who do not want to live under Ukraine laws should be free to leave or to stay and use the political system to legally alter unpopular laws

Donbass people tried to do that. But the regime plotters would not allow it. It were the regime forces who invaded their land with their murderous "ukrainization" policy under banners of WWII fascist collaborators. It were they who started mass artillery bombardments, air strikes and indiscriminate killings, just as their WWII Nazi forefathers.

Ukrainian state will not last long. It's army is unable to venture out of fortifications and cities (with the comfort of their inhabitants as human shields). Soon the the army will be smashed and the territory denazified, just as Germany after 1945.

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And here is an excellent example of "fake Western generated rubbish". If were want to know about city massacres, read about Mosul.

How will reading of Mosul alter the facts of those murdered by Russia in Grozny?

It's not up to NATO to decide. Serbs were dedending their land from invaders.

Kosovo was invading Serbia? Pretty sure it was Serbia committing atrocities against Kosovo Albanians, and NATO was defending them.

Donbass people tried to do that.

Changing laws can take decades. For how long did they try using the political system to effect changes?

But the regime plotters would not allow it. It were the regime forces who invaded their land with their murderous "ukrainization" policy

How can Ukrainian forces invade Ukraine lands? Your not making any sense at all.

Russia made Soviet states teach in Russian and in many areas including Ukraine had a policy of ONLY teaching Russian. So when Ukraine became independent, it was only natural to reverse that policy and teach only in Ukraine. Again, if you dont like the laws, work towards change using the available system.

Ukrainian state will not last long. It's army is unable to venture out of fortifications and cities (with the comfort of their inhabitants as human shields). Soon the the army will be smashed and the territory denazified

More fantasy from Pro Russian sources and opinions of people who dream a lot. Russia needs to be denazified. Ukraine needs to be left in peace. Putin needs to be left in jail to rot, or hung like the Nazi's of WWII that he is emulating now.

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