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Russia launches new airstrikes in Syria; 1st from submarine

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Here we go, WWIII, on a small scale. So far.

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“We had treated Turkey not only as a friendly country, but as an ally in the fight against terrorism, and we couldn’t expect such a mean, treacherous stab in the back,” Putin said.

Putin certainly ignored the ISIS threat long enough while pursuing his occupation of the Ukraine. Now, Vlad claims his country's honor is impinged?

Putin has allowed a gangsterism of his Russian economy and now shows himself as the opportunist invader with his chemical weapons in the hands of Assad.

Putin will not work with the West because he is likely dangerously unstable and vulnerable in his own gangster controlled Russia.

Putin understands that ISIS is not much different from his own tactics except for all the psychotic false religion of the terrorist ISIS gangsters.

Good thing AWOL Bush set up the pins for Putin and ISIS to knock down the Middle East. Too bad about all the slaughtered children and innocent citizens. Bush sure didn't bother to take them into account as he executed his greeted as liberators game plan.

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I'd like to be the first to welcome Russia to the 1960's.

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Right on, Putin! And it's fine with me if you take out the " moderate" jihadis too.

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Turkey has invaded Iraq as well as Syria. As for the "moderate" opposition, they shot a helpless pilot under a parachute. They are nothing more than terrorists and since they do not play by the rules should not be expected to be treated by them. As for the war, this is the country of Syria and NATO can not just up and invade to support terrorists. No security council resolution, nothing just interfering with the country of Syria. The Russian Federation needs to hit the terrorists harder and to keep NATO aircraft from flying in Syria. President Obama said it that a country has the right to protect its airspace.

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And it's fine with me if you take out the " moderate" jihadis too.

Me too. They'll become radicalized soon enough anyway and then try to find a way into the US like Tashfeen.

Russia launches new airstrikes in Syria; 1st from submarine

Hope obama, kerry & carter are taking notes.

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Now, if Russia and Iran stand as a bloc and allow Assad to simply stiff the process, and we get no transition at all, then it will be clear who the problem children are, and our options will be narrowed, and we will have to make some tough choices, because we cannot allow this to go on. It is a security threat to the United States and every country in Europe. And it’s not just a threat to Europe in terms of what happened in Paris or elsewhere. It’s a threat because this migration can alter the politics of Europe in an existential way forever.

This is what Kerry stated just before a Syrian military facility was bombed a few days ago. It is becoming ever more obvious that NATO's only goal all along has been to get rid of Assad, and to do so they have supported (armed, trained, financed...) terrorists while attacking Syrian infrastructure and military.

I hope Russia cleans up this mess quickly before NATO messes it up more.

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"Putin ordered the flight recorder to be studied in the presence of foreign experts, adding that the data will show the plane’s flight path." It will be interesting to see NATO response if the data recovered under observation by foreign experts turn out to support the Russian position.

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Sorry to be crude, but missiles from a sub is pretty badass.

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@kcjapan

while pursuing his occupation of the Ukraine

False statement. NATO intelligence could not find any Russian army units in Ukraine. If you can, call NATO, enlighten them.

with his chemical weapons in the hands of Assad

False statement, you repeat it again. Putin never provided Assad with chemical weapons. But if you have proof to the contrary, share with us, that would be fun.

Putin has allowed a gangsterism of his Russian economy

And it is the exact reason why Russia is a member of G-20 and WTO, I see.

he is likely dangerously unstable and vulnerable

From 2000 Putin served two terms as president, one term as prime-minister, now he is president again. Even by Western estimates, he is supported by at least of 85 percent of Russians. You call it "unstable"?

So many lies in one short post. Wow, that's some accomplishment.

Good luck to Russian pilots and sailors. You're doing a great job, guys! Hit the enemy hard and return to bases safely!!

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It does not really matter any more whether the Russian aircraft crossed Turkey's airspace on that day or not. Turkey had very recently repeatedly appealed to the relevant authorities against Russian proximity and occasional intrusion, and had repeatedly warned Russia they were playing a high-handed game. Russia totally ignored their requests, merely saying on one occasion that the wind had blown their plane slightly over the border.

Two aircraft flew straight at Turkey on that fateful day and set alarm bells ringing. They turned hard left and flew south before turning right again, and after the first plane flew past, and after repeated warnings for them to turn left, the Turks must have felt outraged and shot the second one down. (The previous week they had already shot down a Russian drone as a warning.) We do not know if the first plane crossed the border or not.

So the scenario is not quite as one-sided as Putin would have the world believe. Let us hope that both sides learned something, though I rather doubt it.

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It will be interesting to see NATO response if the data recovered under observation by foreign experts turn out to support the Russian position.

They will still blame Russia. Just as Assad is still considered to have “gassed his people”…

NATO will accept anything, including a tweet or blurry video, to support their agenda, while completely ignoring serious investigations.

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When do we get to see Putin live in action pumping in a few rounds?

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Asakaze - I agree on all points.

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Russia launches new airstrikes in Syria; 1st from submarine

Putin gets it up

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The missile from the sub was unduly expensive and unnecessary.

Obviously Russia is testing it's weapons in live action and giving the rest of the world a veiled warning.

Especially poignant since Russia has Black Hole subs that can launch a devastating nuclear counter attack on any potential aggressor.

And Russia will stand by their ally Syria just like America will stand by its ally Turkey.

So killing Syrian soldiers, especially those fighting ISIS, isn't the wisest of moves.

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@kcjapan "Putin will not work with the West because"

Because the West shows too much hypocritical attitude in relations both to ISIS and Syria.

"his occupation of the Ukraine"

Please. Nobody cares of that poor US colony in European backyard anymore. Ukrainian politicians can offer nothing except pure disgrace and lack of plain self-respect.

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" “We had treated Turkey not only as a friendly country, but as an ally in the fight against terrorism, and we couldn’t expect such a mean, treacherous stab in the back,” Putin said. "

Well, that was your mistake. I am sure you won´t make that again. Erdogan is mightily upset that you are doing something against ISIS, so keep that in mind from now on.

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WilliBDEC. 09, 2015 - 10:48PM JST " “We had treated Turkey not only as a friendly country, but as an ally in the fight against terrorism, and we couldn’t expect such a mean, treacherous stab in the back,” Putin said. "

Well, that was your mistake. I am sure you won´t make that again. Erdogan is mightily upset that you are doing something against ISIS, so keep that in mind from now on.

Yes, an unfortunate lesson in western hypocrisy for Russia.

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@WilliB"that was your mistake".

A year ago he tried to offer a project of transeuropean oil pipeline and building of nuclear power plant in Turkey. Recently Turkish jet has shot down a Russian SU24. So Putin is definitely humiliated by Erdogan.

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Betrayed by Erdogan and the US/NATO in Russias fight against terrorism. It won't be forgotten.

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Some complicated facts don't bear easy examination . . .

Earlier this year, following a series of allegations about continuing chemical weapons use in the Syrian civil war, the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) dispatched a fact-finding mission to Syria. The resulting report found, well, facts. And those facts make me want to reach for a glass of holiday cheer, on the rocks. You may not have heard about the report itself, in part because it was the characterization of the U.S. Representative to the OPCW that made headlines: “The sad reality,” Rafael Foley said, “is that chemical weapons use is becoming routine in the Syrian civil war.”

What the report found was that there is truth to two specific allegations of chemical weapons use. The two incidents are very different from one another, but together they illustrate how the use of chemical weapons in the Syrian conflict has evolved since the Bashar al-Assad regime gassed the Damascus neighborhood of Ghouta in August 2013. These recent incidents don’t mean the successful removal of 1,300 tons of chemical agents used to make Sarin and mustard gas from Syria was pointless. But they do underscore, in the most gruesome way possible, how limited such diplomatic achievements can be when an underlying conflict continues to rage on.

source: http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/11/30/syria-is-a-chemical-weapons-free-for-all-happy-holidays/

So before some blame all that is fact as fabrication, these pages can't contain both all the falsehoods and all the facts the Middle East labors under. What is clear is the chemical threats still exist, the Russians are far from innocent protectors and the previous Administration in the States created a global disaster with their reckless superiority they seemingly cannot recall. It is also clear that simply assigning blame won't one more child in Syria's killing fields.

From 2013:

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said during a Wednesday congressional hearing that Russia provided Syrian President Bashar Assad's regime with some of the chemical weapons used against civilians.

Speaking during a House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing, Hagel was asked by Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) where the weapons came from.

“There’s no secret that the Assad regime has had chemical weapons, significant stockpiles of chemical weapons,” Hagel said.

Wilson asked if they come from a specific country.

"The Russians supply them, others are supplying them with those chemical weapons, they make some themselves," Hagel said.

Again, the easy blame and political extremism of propaganda isn't a historical analysis and their may be few left for the forensics.

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@kcjapan"the Russians are far from innocent protectors".

So, who are those "innocent protectors" of Syrian people? Westerners maybe?

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kcjapan:

" What is clear is the chemical threats still exist, the Russians are far from innocent protectors and the previous Administration in the States created a global disaster with their reckless superiority they seemingly cannot recall. "

To remind you, it is CURRENT Aministration in the States that created the related disasters in Libya and Syria, and continues to assist ISIS and the criminal Erdogan regime in its misguided effort to destabilize Syria.

Maybe you should take off your political blinkers for a moment.

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