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Yeah, talk is cheap, Putie. You've never once made a threat you've carried out.

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"You should ask my colleagues in Europe, and above all in Washington, the press secretaries, why their governments are killing Russian children," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters.

Russian children don't belong in Not Russia

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TaiwanisChina..

Yeah, talk is cheap, Putie. You've never once made a threat you've carried out.

Google Putin's Munich conference speech about NATO expansion especially into Ukraine.

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Mr KiplingToday 07:04 am JST

TaiwanisChina..

Yeah, talk is cheap, Putie. You've never once made a threat you've carried out.

Google Putin's Munich conference speech about NATO expansion especially into Ukraine.

Yeah that was insane blubbering about the US coupled with three years late statements about the last NATO admissions towards Russia's border. No actual threat because Putie isn't holding any cards of value.

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Pretty rich from the fascist dictatorship that uses Iranian drones and DORK munitions to attack Ukrainian citizens.

Bite me, Russia. We’re not going to blink.

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You should ask my colleagues in Europe, and above all in Washington, the press secretaries, why their governments are killing Russian children," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters.

Or maybe you could explain why your government is killing Ukrainian children, assaulting Ukrainian women, and beheading Ukrainian troops.

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The Kremlin on Monday squarely blamed the United States for an attack on Crimea with U.S.-supplied ATACMS missiles that killed at least four people and injured 151, and Moscow formally warned the U.S. ambassador that retaliation would follow.

But directly blaming the United States for an attack on Crimea - which Russia unilaterally annexed in 2014 although most of the world considers it part of Ukraine - is a step further.

Trying to blame the US is a desperate move, but Putin has been pretty desperate recently.

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Leave Ukraine and take all your troops with you.

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If this escalation continues, Russian nukes will be placed in Cuba, Kalingrad and possibly even North Korea.

Putin has offered a reasonable settlement, which is the reunification of the 4 Russian speaking provinces back to Russia and a neutral Ukraine based on the Swiss model.

Ukrainian men are no longer volunteering and are hiding from draft police that roam the streets to throw them into vans and force them onto the front lines.

Everybody, including Ukrainians, Europeans and American citizens wants peace but only the War Hawks, weapons manufacturers and Zelensky want to keep the pointless war going.

End it now or else the Russian army and European and American voters will force it on Zelensky on less favorable terms in the coming months.

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Banthu

If this escalation continues, Russian nukes will be placed in Cuba, Kalingrad and possibly even North Korea.

No, they won't

Putin has offered a reasonable settlement, which is the reunification of the 4 Russian speaking provinces back to Russia and a neutral Ukraine based on the Swiss model.

It's not reasonable because those provinces aren't Russian, they are Ukrainian.

Everybody, including Ukrainians, Europeans and American citizens wants peace but only the War Hawks, weapons manufacturers and Zelensky want to keep the pointless war going.

Putin doesn't want peace.

End it now or else the Russian army and European and American voters will force it on Zelensky on less favorable terms in the coming months.

The Russian army is incapable of doing anything and European and American voters support Ukraine, not Russia.

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The trick for Putin is to take ‘revenge’ without pissing off too large a segment of the American population, who already have a pretty unfavorable opinion of Russia. Not impossible to do, but if they were that strategic and smart, they wouldn’t have invaded Ukraine in the first place. Threat discounted, but by all means, Russia, you should try something.

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And Russia will do it..

Just wait for the news..

When Putin say it, Putin will do it..

Keep fighting Russia, to the final victory !!!..

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Tokyo Living - what do you think Russia is going to do to us?

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"Of course, the involvement of the United States in the fighting, as a result of which peaceful Russians are dying, cannot but have consequences,"

while waging war against their neighbor, killing civilian men, women and children, all of Peskov’s complaints are a massive hypocrisy. Peaceful Russians? That’s becoming something of an oxymoron. Go back to Russia.

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BanthuToday 07:31 am JST

If this escalation continues, Russian nukes will be placed in Cuba, Kalingrad and possibly even North Korea.

Some popular words you like to throw out but ultimately impossible or meaningless.

Putin has offered a reasonable settlement, which is the reunification of the 4 Russian speaking provinces back to Russia and a neutral Ukraine based on the Swiss model.

Yeah, in other words surrender and Putie gets to decide what happens to Ukraine.

Everybody, including Ukrainians, Europeans and American citizens wants peace but only the War Hawks, weapons manufacturers and Zelensky want to keep the pointless war going.

Pretty sure the Ukrainians do not want to surrender.

End it now or else the Russian army and European and American voters will force it on Zelensky on less favorable terms in the coming months.

It's a long way to Kyiv.

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NATO is building its largest base in Romania.

"Mihai Kogalniceanu (MK) airbase takes its name from the village nearby, itself named after a 19th Century liberal politician. Now, it is the unlikely setting for what is turning into the biggest Nato base in Europe, bigger even than Ramstein in Germany."

Black Sea patrols.

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Putin has offered a reasonable settlement, which is the reunification of the 4 Russian speaking provinces back to Russia and a neutral Ukraine based on the Swiss model.

There is nothing reasonable about forcing Ukraine to give up the four oblasts, none of which Russia controls. Putin's "deal" would mean giving up more territory than they already control just have a seat at the negotiating table. Don't be absurd.

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Bring it. It's going to happen sooner or later, so about Russia gets thumped.

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As an American, I think Russian should put up or shut up, too threaten an average American, a kicked butt await you

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Dangerous times, indeed. The US tucked tail and fled from Yemen's Houthi rebels.

Russia has considerably more nukes than those rebels.

It might be a good time to teach school children how to hide under their desks again.

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Everybody, including Ukrainians, Europeans and American citizens wants peace but only the War Hawks, weapons manufacturers and Zelensky want to keep the pointless war going.

Dont forget some of the chest beating NAFO crowd on JT. They are all in for prolonging and escalating the conflict. Of course none will volunteer for the Ukraine foreign legion.

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They targeted children enjoying themselves on a beach on a religious holiday. (23rd is Day of the Holy Trinity). The images of children's beach toys and families going through the chaos of a cluster munition attacks is pretty shameful.

This is straight up terror attacks on known civilian targets; no question. US is responsible and an accomplice too.

Wasting their weapons on non military targets and resorting to terror. Elements of the media reported they would do that as they lose of the battelfield.

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UAfan

check my comments from yesterday if not removed yet.

fully expected russian reaction and follow up...up to them.you guess what may follow next.

Nothing.

still no thoughts about serious peace talk dear american friends?

Nope. Putin doesn't want peace.

still starving about blood money out of this proxy conflict?

It's not a proxy conflict.

Lloyd Austin do you read me?

No. He doesn't.

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JJE

They targeted children enjoying themselves on a beach on a religious holiday. (23rd is Day of the Holy Trinity). The images of children's beach toys and families going through the chaos of a cluster munition attacks is pretty shameful.

No, they didn't target children or civilians. The missile deviated from its flight trajectory due to the impact of Russian air defenses, with the warhead exploding in the air over the city.

You have to wonder why there were no air raid sirens. That is on Russia.

This is straight up terror attacks on known civilian targets; no question. US is responsible and an accomplice too.

Nope. Civilians weren't targeted.

Wasting their weapons on non military targets and resorting to terror.

There were no non military targets.

Elements of the media reported they would do that as they lose of the battelfield.

No, they didn't.

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"he has said Russia does not want a conflict with the U.S.-led NATO alliance."

Then what retaliation?

Only solution is to leave Ukraine.

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It's on camera. The cluster munition can be heard deploying.

Let's pretend it just accidentally went to the main crowded beach, at the busiest time of day, on the busiest day of the year...

Just a coincidence and not intentional targeting.

Bakeries, buses, beaches...

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still no thoughts about serious peace talk dear american friends?.........Nope. Putin doesn't want peace.

Putin offered peace talks and a fairly realistic offer to end the conflict. Russia keeping Crimea and Donbass is where this will end up anyway in the long term, only question is how many more lives will be lost before ceasefire comes. Neocon warmonger interests refused , they are not interested in peace. They want a "strategic weakening "of Russia. Willing to fight until the last Ukrainian. As some of their mouthpieces on here often point out - it's a great deal for US /NATO, no American /NATO troop losses, supplying weapons helps US manufacturing and brings profits while it's the Ukrainians who do the dying. Great deal for them indeed.

still starving about blood money out of this proxy conflict?...........It's not a proxy conflict.

Just because some deny the obvious, doesn't make it so. It sure is.

Lloyd Austin do you read me?........No. He doesn't.

On that we agree.

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JJE

It's on camera. The cluster munition can be heard deploying.

Let's pretend it just accidentally went to the main crowded beach,

Yes, that's what happened. It was due to Russian air defences knocking the missile off course.

at the busiest time of day, on the busiest day of the year...

So why were there no air raid sirens? If there were air raid sirens, people wouldn't be on the beaches.

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Pardon, but Ukraine or Crimea for that matter doesn’t belong to you.

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Ramsey's Kitchen

Nope. Putin doesn't want peace.

Putin offered peace talks and a fairly realistic offer to end the conflict. 

They were neither realistic nor sincere.

Russia keeping Crimea and Donbass is where this will end up anyway

Maybe. Maybe not.

in the long term, only question is how many more lives will be lost before ceasefire comes.

That's up to Putin.

Neocon warmonger interests refused , they are not interested in peace.

I wouldn't call Putin a neocon. He's the only warmonger here.

They want a "strategic weakening "of Russia.

If Russia doesn't want to be weakened, they can withdraw.

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Putin offered peace talks and a fairly realistic offer to end the conflict.

How is giving up more land to Russia than they even occupy to just to begin negotiations a reasonable offer? Absurd.

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How is giving up more land to Russia than they even occupy to just to begin negotiations a reasonable offer? Absurd.

How is Zelensky "offer" of complete Russian withdrawal from all areas they have taken, Crimea and Donbas and Putin in Hague in any way reasonable? Doubly absurd.

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It was a reasonable offer because it reflects the current dynamics on the battlefield.

Of course, that deal is off the table and the price goes up.

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How is Zelensky "offer" of complete Russian withdrawal from all areas they have taken, Crimea and Donbas and Putin in Hague in any way reasonable? 

Well, because it's their land. And they have every right to demand the imperialist invaders leave.

Great job answering my question with a question, though.

Doubly absurd.

There's nothing absurd about demanding justice for fascist war criminal like Putin.

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What are you talking about. It's already been reported that a public beach was, unsurprisingly, not the target. The missile was hit by the occupation army's air defense, causing it to explode over this area. It's still obviously a tragedy, but no need to use it to push some nonsense theory of yours.

It's on camera. The cluster munition can be heard deploying.

Let's pretend it just accidentally went to the main crowded beach, at the busiest time of day, on the busiest day of the year...

Just a coincidence and not intentional targeting.

Bakeries, buses, beaches...

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It was a reasonable offer because it reflects the current dynamics on the battlefield.

It was reasonable for the Ukrainian people to give up more land than the Russians actually occupy...because of....current dynamics? hahahaha Hilarious mate. Let's give the Ukrainians a couple hundred billion more and see where those "current dynamics" go.

Of course, that deal is off the table and the price goes up.

lmao sure. There's nothing desperate here at all. Nope.

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Cluster munitions are banned by most civilized nations for a reason.

The fact that Zelensky would order these weapons to be fired over civilian areas, especially what he claims are Ukrainian civilian areas is inexcusable.

This proves that he doesn't care about the lives of Ukrainians.

The fact that he orders unwilling Ukrainian conscripts who do not want to fight to their deaths on the front lines is further proof.

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Well, because it's their land..... And they have every right to demand the imperialist invaders leave.

Sure , they can demand it but it's totally unrealistic and divorced from the situation on the ground. Plain for everyone to see.

Great job answering my question with a question, though.

Well that's NAFO SOP, so it's nothing new.

Doubly absurd.........There's nothing absurd about demanding justice for fascist war criminal like Putin.

Demanding Russia leaves all of Crimea and Donbas is both absurd and unrealistic.

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Sure , they can demand it but it's totally unrealistic and divorced from the situation on the ground. Plain for everyone to see.

Sure, and Putin can make laughably absurd demands, and Ukraine will reject them out of hand. See how that goes?

Well that's NAFO SOP, so it's nothing new.

In other words, you've got no answer.

Demanding Russia leaves all of Crimea and Donbas is both absurd and unrealistic.

Says who? Pro-Russian shills? Oh, I'm sure they think so.

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JJE

It was a reasonable offer

No, it isn't. Zaporizhzhia is a city with a metro population of 810,000. Putin want's Ukraine just to turn over that city to his rapist troops?

Ridiculous.

because it reflects the current dynamics on the battlefield.

Russia are bogged down. They aren't making progress. Their troops near Kharkiv are surrendering or deserting. It's not sustainable. Putin is desperate.

Of course, that deal is off the table and the price goes up.

For Putin.

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Any doubts now the US warmongers want W W III?

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Any doubts now the US warmongers want W W III?

Yeah. I think it's alot of nonsense. The Ukrainians weren't firing missiles into Crimea or Russia until Russia chose to invade. Talk about that.

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Certain quarters miss the point of negotiations, which happen after proposals are laid out.

Putin would have allowed some wiggle room to allow Kherson and Zaporizhzhia to be set along the current frontline-Dnieper; keeping the land bridge which is the real strategic prize. Lugansk and Donetsk are non-negotiable as the heart of Donbass; they will be secured one way or the other. UAF will leave or be evicted.

Kyiv's bargaining position will invariably become weaker.

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..current dynamics? hahahaha Hilarious mate. Let's give the Ukrainians a couple hundred billion more and see where those "current dynamics" go.

And how about manpower to go with it? Ukraine has a desperate shortage of men as more and more refuse to be thrown into the meatgrinder. They want peace not more war. Zelensky's military recruiter hunting team are fighting with and dragging men off Ukrainian city streets to send them to the front. Many men and women are standing up to them. https://x.com/Panchenko_X/status/1797001251500040392

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JJE

Kyiv's bargaining position will invariably become weaker.

Not as weak as giving Putin major cities for free. Actually, Putin's bargaining position is already becoming weaker, he is becoming more desperate.

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Talk about that.

Sure

Russia didn’t have a choice. They had to invade to stop the Ukrainian government from attacking the Russian speaking citizens.

Minsk 1 failed

Minsk 2 failed

Isen’t it obvious?

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The retaliation came against military targets in the rear of Kyiv regime forces. On the morning of June 24, heavy missile strikes were launched against various target packages in the southern Mykolaiv and Odessa regions, related to the ongoing attacks against civilians.

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Certain quarters miss the point of negotiations, which happen after proposals are laid out.

Yes. After Russia gets to keep the 4 oblasts they stole from Ukraine. Why on Earth would any country agree to those terms just start negotiations? If that's what they have to agree to just sit at the negotiating table, then what else would they demand in order for a peace deal?

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Russia didn’t have a choice. They had to invade to stop the Ukrainian government from attacking the Russian speaking citizens.

lmao Really? You're giving me blood and soil speech. By the same token, was Germany justified in taking the Sudentland? Because this is the exact same argument they used, "protection of German speaking there."

Why were Russian speaking citizens being attacked there? Because Russia had been arming separatists there since 2014.

"Russia didn't have a choice" my foot.

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NATO/Biden and the “progressive” war mongers are pushing us closer and closer to World War III.

Putin has shown remarkable restraint but with the West’s unrelenting escalation all bets are off.

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FizzBit

Talk about that.

Sure

Russia didn’t have a choice. They had to invade to stop the Ukrainian government from attacking the Russian speaking citizens.

Nope. There were 27 conflict-related civilian deaths in 2019, 26 deaths in 2020, and 25 deaths in 2021, over half of them from mines and unexploded ordnance.

So, no the Ukrainian government wasn't attacking the Russian speaking citizens.

Minsk 1 failed

Minsk 2 failed

Sure. Russia agreed to the Minsk agreements (which is absurd, because it has nothing to with Russia). But then reneged and wanted to change the agreements.

Isen’t it obvious?

No. It's not.

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JJE

The retaliation came against military targets in the rear of Kyiv regime forces. On the morning of June 24, heavy missile strikes were launched against various target packages in the southern Mykolaiv and Odessa regions,

So life as usual.

related to the ongoing attacks against civilians.

There are no Ukrainian attacks against civilians.

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Toblerone

Putin has shown remarkable restraint but with the West’s unrelenting escalation all bets are off.

An imperialist invasion of a sovereign nation is 'showing restraint'?

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Putin has shown remarkable restraint but with the West’s unrelenting escalation all bets are off.

I'm terrified. :)

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The special military operation, launched 24/2/22, is a full-scale strategic counteroffensive in response to unrelenting NATO expansion and aggression.

Therefore, it is defensive in nature and very much provoked.

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Therefore, it is defensive in nature and very much provoked.

Totally bro, and I've got a bridge and Brooklyn for you. Too funny, man, too funny. :)

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Where was the NATO expansion? Putin achieved that. Finland and Sweden's NATO membership was influenced by Putin.

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If you think about it, the NATO-orchestrated Georgian War way back in 2008 was the first direct clash between a Western proxy and the Russian military on the territory of the former Soviet Union. 

It opened a Pandora’s Box that escalated into another all-out war, this time in Ukraine, one of the most prominent republics of the USSR that got hijacked by NATO back in 2014.

Moscow wasn't going to sit on its hands while and allow this to happen.

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JJE

The special military operation, launched 24/2/22, is a full-scale strategic counteroffensive in response to unrelenting NATO expansion and aggression.

Therefore, it is defensive in nature and very much provoked.

What aggression are you talking about?

It is an imperialist invasion, there is nothing defensive about it.

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JJE

If you think about it, the NATO-orchestrated Georgian War way back in 2008 was the first direct clash between a Western proxy and the Russian military on the territory of the former Soviet Union.

Actually, another imperialist Russian invasion. Not a proxy.

It opened a Pandora’s Box that escalated into another all-out war, this time in Ukraine, one of the most prominent republics of the USSR

I do kind of agree. The West and NATO should have stood up in 2008 and assisted Georgia. That just encouraged Putin to go further. We learned from that eventually, but too late.

that got hijacked by NATO back in 2014.

Nothing got hijacked by NATO in 2014.

Moscow wasn't going to sit on its hands while and allow this to happen.

Nothing was happening except Russian imperialism.

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The list of victims of NATO aggression is long: Yugoslavia, Serbia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Georgia, Russian Federation, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Ukraine, countless others.

They ruin countries. There is no way Moscow will allow them on the Ukrainian frontier.

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*If you think about it, the NATO-orchestrated Georgian War way back in 2008 was the first direct clash between a Western proxy and the Russian military on the territory of the former Soviet Union. *

Every post by this guy:

“If you think about it (insert whatever monstrous thing Russia has done all by itself here) was all NATO’s fault.”

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I think you forgot about the "neo-nazis" and "satanists". Now your fairy tale is completed.

In all seriousness, countries have to go through a lot of effort to join NATO. The ones who go through it want to join for very good reasons. If NATO had wanted to expand quickly/aggressively, it would have less barriers for entry.

The special military operation, launched 24/2/22, is a full-scale strategic counteroffensive in response to unrelenting NATO expansion and aggression.

Therefore, it is defensive in nature and very much provoked.

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There is no way Moscow will allow them on the Ukrainian frontier.

Well, you might as well start working your way through those phases of grief, because Russia already shares a big border with NATO, now even bigger with Finland in NATO as well :)

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Any doubts now the US warmongers want W W III?

Yeah. I think it's alot of nonsense. 

Just because you think so doesn't make it true. Western MIC wants the conflict to continue and escalate. As some of their warmonger fans say on here - Its a great deal for US, jobs and profits for US military complex industry, no US military losses and Ukrainians do the dying. They say its a win win for them.

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Its a great deal for US, jobs and profits for US military complex industry, no US military losses and Ukrainians do the dying.

Do you know how you guys could really stick it to the dastardly US MIC and our profits? By getting out of Ukraine.

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Finland has never had a problem with Russia in the modern era (and had good relations with postwar USSR).

Sweden was basically always a de facto member of NATO and isn't really relevant.

Point is neither of those two were on Russia's strategic European frontier or were killing ethnic Russians/speakers on that frontier. Ukraine was definitely a growing threat to the national security of the Russian Federation but that has been nipped in the bud.

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JJE - except that Russia was a lot safer before you guys invaded Ukraine.

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Point is neither of those two were on Russia's strategic European frontier or were killing ethnic Russians/speakers on that frontier. Ukraine was definitely a growing threat to the national security of the Russian Federation but that has been nipped in the bud.

And now they're both full-fledge members because Russia can't stop invading their neighbors.

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You guys messed up.

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Ukraine has been a sovereign country since 1991 and declared itself neutral. A new constitution was adopted in 1996.

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Yes. After Russia gets to keep the 4 oblasts they stole from Ukraine. Why on Earth would any country agree to those terms just start negotiations? 

Because that will bring peace. Does that answer the question now?

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Because that will bring peace. Does that answer the question now?

No. It really doesn't. There's no proof that'll lead to peace. There's no proof Russia will honor their treaty. Russia is a belligerent bully, and needs to be treated as such.

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Peace until the next excuse to invade is found. The Moscow regime wants a change of government in Kyiv and won't stop until it happens.

Because that will bring peace. Does that answer the question now?

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That's correct. Before they slid away from the neutrality after the 2014 coup and other unwelcome actors became involved there, the Russian Federation had zero interest in Ukraine territory.

And that is what it all boils down to at the end of the day: this conflict, provoked by certain quarters, could have been avoided by Kyiv maintaining neutrality (EU membership has zero to do with it).

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