Russia says new sanctions over Ukraine unacceptable; threatens retaliation

It's would be interest to see how Japan will respond to American new wave of sanction against Russia's involvements in Ukraine.

Provoke, antagonize, threaten - keywords in Russian and Chinese diplomacy.

Now it is SUMMER so nobody cares about Russian heating oil etc...but wait until WINTER and I bet these Russians will STOP the heating oil supplies to Japan, etc..to Western Europe etc...trust my words!!

This is idiotic. Russian is not doing anything,. This is not even when the Ukraine bombed across the Russian border and killed a Russian citizen. Putin has, if anything tried to establish peace between Eastern Ukraine and Kiev. Careful, hard liners may dump Putin and unleash the dogs of war. Then the Ukrainian regime will be in trouble, as will the lying US.

Russian is not doing anything.

Apparently they appear to have shot down a Ukrainian SU25 and downed an AN26. Photos on the net of a rocket launcher being used from Russia. Also I think supplying three T62 tanks and some other AFVs to rebels is a bit naughty. Aaaand there are photos of chaps in balaclavas wearing uniforms the same as the chaps who went into Crimea, who turned out to be Spetznaz.

Proof. Can the above poster document anything he or she states.

The fighter plane incident did happen. The Ukrainian fighter was flying near the Russian border and was shot down by a Russian missile. This, however, was an isolated incident, like the Ukrainian shell of a Russian border town that killed a Russian citizen.

All indication are that Putin is avoiding Russian involvement in that civil war. Note that the US and EU are slapping Russia with sanctions for allegedly not doing enough to end the civil war. This is BS,

All indication are that Putin is avoiding Russian involvement in that civil war. Note that the US and EU are slapping Russia with sanctions for allegedly not doing enough to end the civil war. This is BS

Your protestations in the face of countless credible reports of Russian involvement, both direct and concealed, are what's B.S. Russia had taken precise and calculated steps to destablized Ukraine. Ukraine knows it. The West knows it. And Russia knows perfectly well everyone esle watching this travesty unfold knows it. Russia started this. Anyone claiming anything to contrary is either flat out lying, or lacks certain cognitive functions.

From the news reports there's no doubt in my mind that Putin is stirring the pot while trying to appear to be pure as the new snow. So the sanctions are reasonable. The whole situation is the fault of the Russians and, until they get their bloody hands out of Ukraine they deserve sanctions.

Russia had taken precize and calculated steps to destabilized Ukraine. Ukraine knows it. The West knows it....Russia started this.

Rubbish. Russia had nothing to do with revolt in ukrainian capital last winter. it was sponsored and fueled by the USA and the EU. All illegal actions towards to ethnic Russians in Eastern regions of Ukraine were also supported by the USA and the EU.

Newrg reports are just coming in : Suspected pro-Russians in the Ukraine have allegedly shot down a Malaysian Airlines 777. If proven true, then it confirms what the responsible world fears - that the pro-Russians are terrorists, targeting civilians. May they be crushed like ants in response.

Suspected pro-Russians in the Ukraine have allegedly shot down a Malaysian Airlines 777.

FYI, "suspected pro-Russians in the Ukraine" are armed by AKs and RPGs. They have no heavy anti-aircraft devices which are able to shoot down a civil jet on 10 000 meters. But "Ukranian Armed Forces" have such devices.

This is really bad. If it was not pro Russian in Ukraine, was it Russia?

Or, was that ordinary operation that commercial flight use such a dangerous course?

This is really bad.

FOX reported they just found the Black boxes of the downed plane, but the Russians are NOT allowing it to be taken to Kiev, but Moscow instead. Also most of the bodies were intact on impact suggesting that the plane probably did a controlled landing and most were still strapped to their seats. This is just the absolute worse. I believe that Putin has his hands all over this, of course he denies ANY involvement or Russia for that matter. The Ukraine also denies any responsibility, so it's anyone's guess.

23 Americans, at least 4 French, and many Netherlanders and Malaysians were on board

known as of now.

Very sad news about Malaysia airline! It's time to de-escalate.

FYI, "suspected pro-Russians in the Ukraine" are armed by AKs and RPGs. They have no heavy anti-aircraft devices which are able to shoot down a civil jet on 10 000 meters. But "Ukranian Armed Forces" have such devices.

Fact: The Separatists shot down a Ukrainian transport a month ago.

Fact: The U.S. has documented evidence that Russia is providing the Separatists with tanks and missile launchers. Russia's missile launchers CAN shoot down an airliner at 35,000 feet.

Fact: The Malaysian Airlines aircraft had already traversed most of Ukrainian airspace and was approaching Russian airspace when it was brought down. If the Ukraine was going to shoot the plane down, they would have done so as the plane was approaching THEIR border, not Russia's.

But we must temper all that with another...

Fact: Nobody has evidence yet that this plane crashed because it was shot down. It could have been an explosive device onboard set to detonate when near the conflict area, or the cause could be something totally unrelated to the conflict. We won't know until all the evidence is in. If it WAS a missile, I'm sure that the intel satellites monitoring the conflict will have some indication of the launch site.

Not that familar with twitter but the google translation is:

Donetsk Republic @ dnrpress

Self-propelled anti-aircraft missile systems "Buk" in the territory of anti-missile defense regiment A1402 take control of the DNI. pic.twitter.com/bTI9BZCB1N

Polite Source ♻ @ ER_Insider Jun 29

Now is the "Jun 29" mean that it was twitter on June 29th? So this wouldn't have anything to do with ML17. But it does say "BUK" which can take down an aircraft at 45K feet.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buk_missile_system

What's "funny" in a sardonic way is how all sides are denying this when all three know one of them is responsible. So just who is the biggest liar?

Fact. The Separatists shot down a Ukranian transport a month ago.

The Ukranian military transport was downed during landing on a very low attitude. Also "the Separatists" shot down many Ukranian military helicopters on low attitude. They have no powerful anti-aircraft batteries capable to shoot down a civil jet on 10 000 meters.

Fact. The U.S.has documented evidence that Russia is providing the Separatists with tanks and missile launchers.

Come on. The U.S. also had "documented evidences" about existence of WMD in Iraq.

Fact. 13 years ago Ukranian armed forces shot down a civil jet by S200 anti-aircraft missile on a high attitude over Black Sea. 78 people onboard, mostly citizens of Israel, were killed. Ukranians said they had made a mistake during drill exersizes.