Russia says U.S. using Taiwan to provoke crisis in Asia

Moscow is absolutely correct here. The single most provable fact is Taiwan province has zero UN-recognition.

Another undeniable fact is Taiwan province is Beijing's real estate, like Hong Kong and Macau.

That is cute coming from Russia who is now using N. Korean soldiers in their fight with Ukraine. My heart goes out to those N. Korean men who have no battlefield experience, those individuals who were sent to fight your fight have no way knowing what they were sent to do because they have no access to outside news in their own country. They are war fodder for your fight Russia....hmm sounds like someone calling the kettle black.

The United States is using Taiwan to provoke a serious crisis in Asia, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Andrei Rudenko told TASS news agency in remark

Russia which has provoked a war in Europe and is still killing civilians has no qualification to talk. They need to shut their pie hole and withdraw from Ukraine to end this crisis of their own doing.

But it makes sense that Russia should become China's mouthpiece since they are now owned by China. Им приходится подлизываться.

China (PRC) is the country provoking a crisis in Asia.

The One China Principle is recognition of the PRC as the sole legitimate government of "China". Only in China is that interpreted to include Taiwan being a part of China. Only 51 out of 170 countries that recognize the One China Principle recognize Taiwan as being a part of the PRC. China has no legitimate basis for their claim, hence the need to use the threat of military force to bring Taiwan under their control.

Thats what the US does

Russia is not wrong on this.

Tawain wants no part of China.

Ukraine wants no part of Russia.

Its like an old lover who will not let go. One has moved on and his happy independently.

While the other hangs on to what used to be.

Where do you stand? Do we force them both back in the fold? Do nothing?

Or do we let them have freedom? Freedom costs. Democracy is worth fighting for.

Russia and China can go pound rocks!

Fine, Russia, USA feel free to have your opinions. Bottomline it is an internal Chinese matter and will be resolved with the inherint wisdom of the Chinese people on both sides of the Taiwan Strait.

Well, gee, we should totally listen to a country led by an indicted war criminal.

inherint wisdom of the Chinese people on both sides of the Taiwan Strait.

Confucius based his system of ethics on five virtues or Wu Chang (五常): xi(信) trustworthiness, zhi(智) knowledge or wisdom, li(理) observance of propriety, yi(义)sense of righteousness, and ren(仁) benevolence.

How far the Chinese have fallen from once a graceful state of union.

I would suggest they imply the above with Taiwan. Move on and let peace rein in.

Lets see those ethics now.

JJEToday 02:27 pm JST

Moscow is absolutely correct here. The single most provable fact is Taiwan province has zero UN-recognition.

11 countries is not zero and is greater than the number that recognize russia's disgraces.

Well, gee, we should totally listen to a country led by an indicted war criminal.

Best comment ever on Putin! To hell with him and his insidious mouth pieces. 

Bring Putin before the ICC. And let him reap what he sowed.

Mr KiplingToday 03:52 pm JST

Russia is not wrong on this.

Just completely misstating the situation as the US has backed Taiwan for 75 years.

deanzaZZRToday 03:55 pm JST

Fine, Russia, USA feel free to have your opinions. Bottomline it is an internal Chinese matter and will be resolved with the inherint wisdom of the Chinese people on both sides of the Taiwan Strait.

There are very few of those on the Taiwanese side of the strait.

If we follow the UN Charter and its statement on the "self-determination of peoples", then I think the people of Taiwan should be able to determine their status. But then so should the people of Crimea and Eastern Ukraine.

Leaders of all the big nations seem quite inconsistent with their views on this matter.

But then so should the people of Crimea and Eastern Ukraine.

The majority of citizens having been displaced to Western Ukraine or abroad, it is impossible to get any accurate or meaningful count on Crimea and Eastern Ukraine. Certainly while under Russian occupation, no true open and honest count is possible even from those who remain. Not to mention Russians who have moved there since the occupations began, skew any result.

Taiwans case remains completely different, as they are not under occupation.

albaleoToday 04:52 pm JST

If we follow the UN Charter and its statement on the "self-determination of peoples", then I think the people of Taiwan should be able to determine their status. But then so should the people of Crimea and Eastern Ukraine.

Leaders of all the big nations seem quite inconsistent with their views on this matter.

Self determination was intended to address colonial states and was never imposed from the outside (inb4 Kosovo). Ukraine should not be split up before russia and China are split up. In any event, attacking Kyiv is not advancing anyone's self determination.

@Peter14,

I agree that it's probably too late to determine the wishes of the people of Eastern Ukraine. (I think Crimea is a different matter.)

Note that I think Putin is mad (probably typical of leaders who have been in power for 20 years). But I think western nations bear some responsibility for the mess that ensued following the 2014 coup (and perhaps for the coup itself).

I have no answers for Ukraine. But I strongly support the idea that the people of Taiwan should be able to determine their status.

albaleoToday 05:35 pm JST

But I think western nations bear some responsibility for the mess that ensued following the 2014 coup (and perhaps for the coup itself).

The "mess" from the 2014 coup was because some ah decided to launch an invasion at the same time. And a naughty phone call from the US did not bring people out from across the country.

BurgerlandToday 05:14 pm JST

and is greater than the number that recognize russia's disgraces.

Lie.

Do tell us what the recognition of Abkhazia, South Ossetia, and Transnistria is and consider revising your statement.

The deputy FM raises a valid point.

Rather than being productive and working to facilitate the peaceful reunification of Taiwan under Beijing's sovereignty, certain quarters are creating a confrontational situation that aims to provoke.

Other countries have experienced similar provocations and have had to deal out corrective measures.

Then there is the elephant in the room which is the brazen double standards.

This is what we have been saying for long time, nothing new. 

Japan like any other country in the continent is clearly being led by the United States, which is not concerned that China will attack other countries, but is worried that its world hegemony is being challenged.

These are the last orders approved by the Pentagon in the last 6 weeks only in Asia. Over $13 billions in lethal weapons. If you don’t call it "Warmongering by Washington"

I don’t know what it is:

Japan 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-state-department-approves-sale-tactical-missiles-japan-360-million-2024-10-18/

Japan 

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/us-state-department-oks-possible-sale-aerial-targets-japan-2024-10-25/

Taiwan 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/oct/26/us-approves-2-billion-arms-sales-taiwan-including-/

South Korea

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/us-state-dept-oks-potential-49-bln-sale-aircraft-s-korea-pentagon-says-2024-11-04/

South Korea latest

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-state-dept-oks-potential-sale-f-15-aircraft-upgrade-to-south-korea-pentagon-2024-11-19/

Stating the obvious. Non the less, needed to be said.

The only country practising hegemony in Asia is China, little by little, slowly but surely. Russia is doing so more blatantly in Europe.

The only country practising hegemony in Asia is China.

No there are two countries, China and of course the USA. The later far more than the first.

The only difference is that China belongs to Asia, whereas the United Stated of America is just selling weapons of mass destruction as explained above. 

Defining China a “threat” is historically incorrect, unless you follow the narrative of the usual suspects that define the alleged skirmished with Filipinos fishermen a danger to a sovereign nation. 

A reminder that of the five permanent members of the UN Security Council (who represent the great powers), only one has not fought a war in 40 years; China.

In contrast to China, in the last three decades, America has fought a war or been involved in military actions every year.

China has neither the intent nor the capability to attack Japan, and the US is a dangerous ally because of the above history of aggressions.

Taiwan will never attack China first. China has nothing to be afraid over from Taiwan, provided they don't try to change the status quo.

China has shown through actions bad behaviors towards Taiwan, Japan, and lots of other SE Asia countries. Actions speak clearly, so Taiwan is also "acting" in their best interest. It won't be enough to prevent China from taking Taiwan, but the cost will be very, very, high to China.

I fail to understand what Russia has to do with this and why anyone would listen to a country that invaded another country and has illegally tried to annex it. Hardly the leaders anyone in the world should want.

tigerjane

That is cute coming from Russia who is now using N. Korean soldiers in their fight with Ukraine.

Firstly, it is not proven that they do, and secondly if they do that is completely within the legal framework, as NK and Russia have signed defense agreement.

Very different from the murky US position of a) underwriting Beijings one-China policy and b) making noise about "defending" Taiwan, a territory which they do not aknowledge as a country. Try to explain that before talking about "cute".

albaleo

Note that I think Putin is mad (probably typical of leaders who have been in power for 20 years). But I think western nations bear some responsibility for the mess that ensued following the 2014 coup (and perhaps for the coup itself).

There wasn't a coup in 2014, and there was no US involvement.

JJENov. 24 06:51 pm JST

The deputy FM raises a valid point.

Rather than being productive and working to facilitate the peaceful reunification of Taiwan under Beijing's sovereignty, certain quarters are creating a confrontational situation that aims to provoke.

Other countries have experienced similar provocations and have had to deal out corrective measures.

There will be no peaceful reunification. The free people in Taiwan don't want any part of the corrupt CCP.

Then there is the elephant in the room which is the brazen double standards.

No double standards involved when the history is understood correctly.

FosNov. 24 07:10 pm JST

These are the last orders approved by the Pentagon in the last 6 weeks only in Asia. Over $13 billions in lethal weapons. If you don’t call it "Warmongering by Washington"

I don’t know what it is:

It is defending free countries from savage bullies.

The only difference is that China belongs to Asia, whereas the United Stated of America is just selling weapons of mass destruction as explained above. 

No weapons of mass destruction involved.

Defining China a “threat” is historically incorrect, unless you follow the narrative of the usual suspects that define the alleged skirmished with Filipinos fishermen a danger to a sovereign nation. 

Taking away the Philippines access to their rightful resources is definitely a danger to a sovereign nation. And China is definitely a threat propping up such criminal nations as NK, russia, and Iran.

A reminder that of the five permanent members of the UN Security Council (who represent the great powers), only one has not fought a war in 40 years; China.

A carefully selected date and ignores the fact that China prefers to bankroll savagery. Countries being infringed upon by Tibet would also take issue with the characterization of China as peaceful.

facts are facts.

Russia is right.

no further comments are needed.