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Just what the majority of posters here wanted. Less US in the region. Vacuum opens the door for one of those honerable nations such as Russia and even possibly China. Imagine oil prices with Russia in control.

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Russia is supporting Assad, who is the thin line between civilization and ISIS barbarity, and our Western leaders support the islamist head-cutters! Are we collectively insane?

Putin is the only politician in this mess who actually has a clear head and does the right thing.

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There are two possible ways Russia's venture into Syria can go. Russia could be a force to stabilize the region. What is wrong with that? Or Russia can get into the same tar baby there as it did in Afghanistan, weakening itself. What is wrong with those two scenarios from the US perspective?

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According to news, Athens said it was asked by Washington to deny airspace for Russian flights. Recently, Bulgaria has denied its airspace for Russians under similar request of Americans. So, we can see once again the ugly mug of US foreign policy. They support their best allies, ISIS and Al Qaeda. They support international barbaric terrorism !

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Crazyjoe:

" Or Russia can get into the same tar baby there as it did in Afghanistan, weakening itself "

Russia is not occupying Syria, Afghanistan-style. Russia is support the existing regime, which has run the country before and has solid support from the Alavite, Yazidi, and Christian minorities. So it is not comparable by Afghanistan.

By the way, the Sowjet Union actually had Afghanistan pretty much under control and the Mujahedin on the run. It was Ronald Reagan who turned into a tar baby by supplying the Mujahedin jihadis with Stinger missiles. And we have been living the fall-out from that disastrous decision ever since.

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I see that a lot of people are waking up to the big lies an manipulations. A cheater will push his or her limits until it becomes obvious. The powers in control already assume that we will believe anything or will care less, so they continue doing as they wish.

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Bad news for ISIS.

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Assad is going nowhere.

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Assad is going nowhere.

I wonder if assad was not anymore in the leading scene or realize that he was wrong and want to retreat ,,, who 's controlling syria if the syrian arab army is not taking his orders , I am not guessing ? but just asking in that case ,, whom is ordering them to continue that game

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I doubt it will do anybody any good at this point, the country is a mess.

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Russia is not a country of idiot politicians like the USA. They know when and where to apply force.

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How many strikes against ISIS have the US and their Saudi "allies" actually made recently? I don't think they are doing anything. If they are really trying to defeat ISIS they should welcome some extra help from Russia.

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In this mess, I still have no idea if any group involved is worth supporting.

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Scrote:

" How many strikes against ISIS have the US and their Saudi "allies" actually made recently? "

Strikes?? They are SUPPORTING ISIS, for crying out loud. Both the Saudis and their US lackeys are concentrating their efforts on removing Assad and handing all over Syria over to ISIS.

It is truly amazing to watch this utter stupidity (in case of the US.... the House of Saud is of course consistent in spreading their Wahabi ideology).

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sigh, i wonder what out president wants anymore... when you look at the refugee issue facing the EU and now the announcement that the US will take on Syrian Refugees - yet the middle eastern allies take "zero" refugee's support Isis.

it makes you wonder why the US or any western country is in the region

it is not Oil- the the US does not need oil- it did not need oil contracts for the last 10 years,

it is not to train troops- we do not need need to train the fighting force of the US trooper

i guess it is to get more refugees/terrorists onto our home soil - like the boston bomber....

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yet the middle eastern allies take "zero" refugee's support Isis.

Probably Saudi Arabia, Kuwiat and maybe Bahrein take few or zero, but Lebanon and Jordon have taken 10's of thousand and already have 10's of thousands Palestinians still waiting to return to their stolen lands.

it makes you wonder why the US or any western country is in the region

No, it doesn't make me wonder. I know exactly why. One word....Hegemony. Especially the gas and oil pipelines that they want to run through Syria, while also taking away any Russian advantage for doing so, hence...the support for ISIS to destroy the country. Russia wanted, and started, to build a pipeline for the EU market while avoiding as much as possible, passing through any EU countries, and Ukraine, since they love stealing Russian gas. Pressure was applied to Bulgaria, the first EU country for the "South Stream" to pass through, were politely told to not cooperate with Russia on the gas pipeline project, even though many citizens wanted it. Ironically, these same US and EU politicians will harp about global warming in their next speech.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/a-network-of-power-gas-pipelines-of-the-european-continent/5470824

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Fizzbit:

" No, it doesn't make me wonder. I know exactly why. One word....Hegemony. Especially the gas and oil pipelines that they want to run through Syria, while also taking away any Russian advantage for doing so, hence...the support for ISIS to destroy the country. "

The problem with grand conspiracy theories is that a) they assume a long-term plan across multiple governments and generations of politicians, b) that our politicians actually understand what they are doing, and c) they pick and choose scenarios in order to explain the irrational behaviour of our governments.

While, in reality, everything can be simply explained by ignorance and political correctness. There is no grand political master plan or economic advantages in our destruction of stable, secular regimes such as Gaddafi in Libya, Mubarak in Egypt, and Assad in Syria.

This only makes sense when you understand the mind-set of our policy makers: The see a rabble-rousing mob protesting against a dictator and immediately they think that those must all be freedom-loving humanitarians who will make a society just like ours, if we just give them "freedom". Well, that does not happen... which our politicians would know if they took the time to read up on the region and its history.

Putin on the other hand, does. Already 2 years ago he pointed out in his open letter about Syria where the Western sanctions against Assad would lead. In short, Putin plays chess, Obama plays tic-tac-to.

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willi,

By the way, the Sowjet Union actually had Afghanistan pretty much under control and the Mujahedin on the run.

Yeah and only a couple of million dead Afghan civilians. Nice example.

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willib:

While, in reality, everything can be simply explained by ignorance and political correctness.

Yes, it's my opinion. All I can say is that I've been closely following the ME since 1992. To think that there isn't a larger game been played here, with all the books, research, whistleblowers, the seven corporations controlling the media, the validated conspiracy theories...etc, is, to put it as kindly as possible, ignorance.

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@Madverts"Nice example"

Indeed, nice example. Have you any idea what exactly Soviets created in that country? Please, read 'What the Soviets got right in Afghanistan?' article on Radio Free Europe page :

www.rferl.mobi/a/1958521.html

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Fizzbit:

" To think that there isn't a larger game been played here, with all the books, research, whistleblowers, the seven corporations controlling the media, the validated conspiracy theories...etc, is, to put it as kindly as possible, ignorance. "

To think that all these different corporations, governments, interest groups, etc etc. have a consistent, multi-generational grand conspiracy plan and stick to it is a desparate wish to find a consponspiracy, to put it as mildly as possible.

Try Occams Razor instead.

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with [US] defense officials worried about the possibility of accidents if coalition and Russian planes operate in the same airspace.

BS.

The US is worried that Russian planes will actually hit and damage ISIS and Al Qaida, both of whom are actually US proxy armies that NATO set up to try and take out Assad.

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Russia is supporting Assad, who is the thin line between civilization and ISIS barbarity, and our Western leaders support the islamist head-cutters! Are we collectively insane?

How on Earth do you work that out? You really think the west are supporting IS? Got evidence of that? Or are you going to say Turkey... who we all know want to rid the world of Assad and the Kurds above all other considerations.

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@Burning Bush "Russian planes will actually hit and damage ISIS and Al Qaida, both of whom are actually US proxy armies"

You hit the nail on the head.

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Thunderbird:

" How on Earth do you work that out? You really think the west are supporting IS? Got evidence of that? "

Not only am I thinking that, it is blazingly obvious. The US has been placing sanctions on Assad for years, while sending endless supplies to the so-called "vetted rebels". Now if you think those "vetted rebels" are anything else but Al Nusra aka ISIS in drag, I have a bridge to sell you.

And yes, Erdogan and the Saudis are also considered our "allies" and their aim too is to remove the Assad government and replace it with a Sunni regime. Sunni is what counts for them, they don´t care about human rights, Yazidi and Christian minorities, and all that.

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Willib

desperate wish...?

22 years of research and reading?

Well fine. You have your opinion and I have mine. Are we finished now or are we going to start using examples to support our opinions? I usually find that once a person has made up their mind, it's useless trying to get them to think another way. And this goes both ways.

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Obama is a disgrace in the contemporary American history, his 'Syria war' and Arab Spring had brought a good oppurtunity for Putin to kick his bottom again and again. Maybe he just dont cares at all, he made himself being the 'Employee of the year' for the Saudis Kingdom

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Obama is a disgrace in the contemporary American history

Yup.

Russia sends tanks, artillery to Syria

Ha-ha . . . the russians know the obama administration is too weak to do anything about it too. A while ago, the russians tested the water by spooked off the USS Donald Cook- pulling obama administration's punk card- now Putin knows what they can get away with.

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@Wc626"Obama administration is too weak to do anything"

Obama did a lot already. ISIS is an American creature. Many years ago Americans supported Osama bin-laden fighting Soviets in Afghanistan. Recently Americans created ISIS, trying to replace Assad by loyal puppet.

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Obama did a lot already.

If you want to say that Obama allowed ISIS to grow and expand its caliphate over the last 3 years without taking action and without striking and neutralizing them, then yes, he did a lot.

Ha-ha . . . the russians know the obama administration is too weak to do anything about it too.

Obama warned Putin to not go into Syria and aid Assad. That was the funniest joke of the year! As if Putin would shudder and shake when Obama says something. He knows Obama is a joke. He probably records their conversations, so that he can listen to them later and share them with his cabinet for good laughs and I wouldn't blame him.

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Bassfunk:

Obama has been quite effective in weaking Israel, destroying secular regimes all over the Middle East, helping islamic radicals, and promoting the globalist agenda (e.g. Thomas Barnett). If that legacy is based on ignorance or on intention, I don´t know. Conspiracy theorists can ponder that.

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You guys should remember Mr Obama had been a winner of Noble prize of PEACE 2009. He is obligated not to wage a war directly at a nation. BUT he is legitimated to support wars through clandlestine ops. like the Syrian civil war. Hiring those "Moderated Islamic Rebels" to do dirty wars is not "Morally Wrong", at least not in his book! There were good jihadists,kind jihadists and" the jihadists who will save the world"in his perspective indeed.

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There is no grand political master plan or economic advantages in our destruction of stable, secular regimes such as Gaddafi in Libya, Mubarak in Egypt, and Assad in Syria.

You might want to do a little reading before making such ignorant claims, unless it's your purpose here to dispel the truth. I certainly am not going to let you get away with that.

It's not a "conspiracy theory". The information is out there for anyone who's interested in finding out the truth. The MSM is not going to talk about this, hence the use of the word "conspiracy" to deter others from thinking.

We found actual video clips of (General Wesley) Clarke explaining the long-standing plans for regime change

So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, “Are we still going to war with Iraq?” And he said, “Oh, it’s worse than that.” He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, “I just got this down from upstairs” — meaning the Secretary of Defense’s office — “today.” And he said, “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.”

Neoconservatives Planned Regime Change Throughout the Middle East and North Africa 20 Years Ago

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/11/neoconservatives-planned-regime-change-throughout-the-middle-east-and-northern-africa-20-years-ago.html

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Just enough to cover the airstrip if the Russians have to pull out their local population and Assad's immediate family. They'll spike what they can't take back.

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I wouldn't be surprised if Obama was actually providing the Russians with American cargo aircraft to help take in their tanks and other military hardware. It's probably in one of those hidden side agreements in the Iran deal.

Assad is going nowhere.

Hmmm... didn't Obama say he had to go? Ah yes, he did. But then again, these days that's about as close to a guarantee that a brutal dictator will spend a lifetime in power as you can get.

Obama has been quite effective in weaking Israel, destroying secular regimes all over the Middle East, helping islamic radicals, and promoting the globalist agenda.

Don't forget the dramatic rise in the killing of all of those Christians in the Middle East since Obama's purposeful withdrawal of influence in the region. Obama seems okay with that. But whenever a Muslim kid takes a suitcase with a ticking clock on it to school Obama get's outraged when the poor lad is sent home for the day. Contrast that with the expulsion of other children for shaping their pop tarts to look like a gun. It's gotten so ridiculous you couldn't make this stuff up even under the influence of hallucinogenic drugs.

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nandakandamanda Just enough to cover the airstrip if the Russians have to pull out their local population and Assad's immediate family.

It is not the goal for which Russian support Assad all this time.

The goal to broke backbone of ISIL

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Watch online interviews of Assad online and then watch those of Isis You'll soon be able to work out the good from the bad. I've yet to watch President Assad decapitate anyone with a dagger! Watch the online videos of Isis with their US M-16s,Humvees, etc - just how are US made weapons in the hands of these thugs? Obviously, that is where the US wants them, right?

Thousands of Sryians have been displaced and turned into refugees by US complicity.

Isis is a creation of the US......

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