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© 2023 AFPRussia strikes Odesa, damaging museum, injuring 8
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UChosePoorly
You don't say? Would this apply only to Ukraine, or other fighting forces as well?
Haaa Nemui
Most of…
current
So, ummm, yeah… it is still a place being used to store artworks.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Waiting for: "but it was a military HQ", even though it is far from any real front line.
wallace
Is Putin threatened by art?
Haaa Nemui
If you read it carefully, it doesn’t say 8 people were injured in the museum. It says 8 people were injured in the attacks on the Odessa region.
UChosePoorly
Apparently, Russia views Ukrainian statehood as something of an ‘anti-Russia’ whose very existence threatens the foundations of Russian statehood. Almost like Ukrainians are just wayward children or self-hating Russians who would deny their heritage.
Kuku
The same story. Russians don't shoot at museums. It is not a military target. The museum was damaged by a (or two) ukrainian missle. The last night telegram (ukr sources bien sur) demonstrated some videos of explosions.
Russians could do it if they were sure that the museum was used as a store for amunition
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Kuku
Today, a more exciting event occurred in the Kiev region. Zaluzhny's assistant, Major Chistyakov, died while unpacking gifts given to him for his birthday by his colleague. As a gift there were grenades. First, the grenades fell into the hands of his 13-year-old son. And it is a miracle that the father died, but not the son. What it was: a terrorist attack or negligence or conspiracy is not yet known. There are many versions.
Russia does not eliminate high-ranking Ukrainian figures so as not to turn them into heroes. This is left until the end of the war. After the war they will be tried as war criminals
TaiwanIsNotChina
That's a laugh. Putin's courts are too busy prosecuting their own citizens for thought crimes. In any event, Russia won't have any access to Ukraine's leadership as Russia can't afford total victory.
UChosePoorly
yeah. dude, right after the mighty Russian army takes Kyiv, lol
JJE
Missile strike on the armed militants of the 128th Brigade in Zarichne (Coordinates: 47.687592, 35.573560). Officers among them - but the commander who is speculated to have organized the event was late, Dmitry Lysyuk, is not among them (some suspect him of being in on it - He has a conviction of smuggling contraband from the LPR in 2019; thus the uproar). The number of militants killed has fluctuated downwards, but looks like 50 or over. It happened on "artillery day" ironically, and these were some of the more experienced in this area.
Video of the strike is now available to watch and the aftermath. The compound of this unit was hit and was a grouping of vehicles with two Iskander-M's. Important to consider the huge damage that contrasts with below.
Also viewed footage of the latest round of strikes on Odesa - a car mounted camera caught the "museum strike". It's obvious it's an errant UAF air-defense missile hurtling back to earth both by the explosion pattern (it was nighttime) and the minor damage. Even the photos show a bit of shattered glass and a window astray; nothing a broom and a handyman couldn't fix in 30 mins; and little to no damage to the physical structure itself whose works have been removed (so anything in the photos are duplicates or reprint posters probably placed there for dramatic effect).
JJE
As poster Kuku pointed out the big story being reported by Ukraine media, is the death of Major Chistyakov, assistant to the CiC of the UAF Zaluzhny, confirmed by the general himself. Photos posted of a number of grenades loose amongst what appear to be "gifts" and Kyiv media is reporting "an explosive device detonated in a birthday present".
The circumstances are unclear; speculation this is part of the growing schism between the military and/or regime. It definitely looks to be an internal job; the question is whether it comes from the military unhappy with the huge casualties (thus a fragging) or a message from the political side.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Better to be a "militant" than a terrorist like Russia's forces.
JJE
Update - the story is being covered by the WP now.
There are reports of "western made grenades". The photos published show what appear to be German DM51 grenades. There is also a syringe.
Another report indicates a whiskey bottle and novelty shot glasses shaped like grenades (a boxed bottle seems to appear).
It may be a negligent accident, it may not - who knows...