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PTownsend
"The Kremlin said". The Kremlin's useful idiots, most long shown to have zero credibilty , just like the Kremlin's media, will be along soon with some lame defense, most likely a distraction regarding past mistakes made by the 'West'.
2020hindsights
And all the whiteware you can find.
Seriously though, with these troops on 3 to 6 month contracts, when they expire, in current morale conditions you would expect the fighter to go home. So you lose that experience, and send in rookies to replace them. It's as if Putin is trying to collect water with a sieve.
tooheysnew
They’re also releasing murderers & rapists from prison to join the army. They’ll fit right in.
End of the day, they’ll end up just being more meat for the grinder - so no loss.
Dead men don’t get paid.
tooheysnew
False !
young Russian men want nothing to do with this war, or any war. They’re doing anything they can to avoid being drafted
Monty
*They’re also releasing murderers & rapists from prison to join the army. *They’ll fit right in.
I 100% agree!
Because that is what the Russian army is, a bunch of murderes and rapists!
But I guess that many of these released prisoners will take their chance and flee from the Russian army and will probably join the Ukraine or flee to another country to be free and not going back to a Russian prison.
Haaa Nemui
Exactly this. Those already in Ukraine are still waiting for what they’ve been promised. Anyone signing up on the basis of $3000 a month is going to end up sorely disappointed.
PTownsend
"Next war", Warmongering again. I wonder whether Putin's keyboard warriors will be first to sign up for their idol's next war, it sounds like Putin is having a bit of trouble coralling his ultra-nationalist followers to enlist, maybe they need to weigh the salaries they're getting now as keyboard warriors against what they could make as actual field military personnel, then decide whether they will be provided with proper kits to fit winters in Eastern Europe and the Arctic.
tooheysnew
@bronco
already planning the next war are we ?
you might want to try a more even foe, like Lichtenstein
Numan
Some.....but there are some fighting for personal glory, financial incentives, and plunder.
There are also a lot of young soldiers who think fighting is like LARPGs. They think they can serve their six months, get the bonus, and get hired by Wagner to travel the world killing POC (mostly civilians) in third world countries.
I want to remind everyone that Wagner's fearsome reputation came from mostly killing unarmed old men, women, and children.
Real military forces has been wiping the floor with these Wagner wannabes.
tooheysnew
this don’t mean they are volunteering
even basic army training is 12 weeks. Add on months for specialist areas.
oh, this is priceless.
Sir, if you’re crazy enough to risk your life for our delusional leader, you are in !
we have to ensure you’re fit enough to retreat at a reasonable pace, & be able to take your equipment with you
tooheysnew
correct !
and let’s not forget that their leader is a bonafide Nazi fan - he has ss tattoos
2020hindsights
Bronco
So you lose that experience,
Sure. But it's not going to be helpful in Ukraine, which is my whole point.
Bob Fosse
Quite a broad spectrum. Must be desperate.
Numan
@Ptownsend
Bronco is a paid troll! Haven't you noticed that he write like another well-known poster on JT known for lying.
Don't feed the trolls!
Just ignore their posts!
Numan
@BigYen
Russia is also worried about their own reputations for military competence if they send their full army in and gets defeated. He will looked really weak amongst his peers.
Putin is partly paranoid. He thinks that the West is ready to invade. He also has to worry about China taking Siberia. He needs to hold them back as a deterrent.
It could also be a false flag operation, and Putin is saving his troops to attack another target while the world is distracted. Only time will tell.
It is know telling what Putin knows with all the intel trump gave Putin for trump's own personal gain.
wallace
Dead men don't walk.
englisc aspyrgend
russian fascist losses have been very heavy, some units have been effectively wiped out, the remnants broken up, inserted in to other units and shoved back in to conflict. No surprise morale is a tad low.
These “volunteer” units are only being given ten days training before being deployed to Ukraine. So not trained troops but cannon fodder, I feel sorry for their parents who will be grieving for them soon, with inadequate outdated equipment and wholly inadequate training, they have little chance of surviving unless they run away or surrender to the Ukrainian army. There is little chance they will see the promised money, those already in Ukraine are complaining of not receiving the promised pay, even when they get back to russia. The local regional budgets are having to fund these “volunteer” units and there is evidence they are falling short of the needed finance.
russia is reverting to the Stalinist doctrine of overwhelming the opposition with sheer numbers, quality not important. But they can’t scrape up the numbers.
Nemo
A) dead men don’t fight in the next war.
B) Shouldn’t Russia be worrying about losing this war before it launches a new war it’s going to lose?
Bob Fosse
"Military service on a contract - the choice of a real man."
I remember many months ago when the pro-putin posters were mocking Ukraine for recruiting the young, old and foreign to fight. Turns out those fighting for Ukraine were taking ‘the choice of a real man’.
Odd Russia is now taking the same route. I wonder what happened.
painkiller
Bob FosseToday 09:42 am JST
Can you show any supporting quotes from that time? Doesn't sound like anything I've seen here.
rainyday
Reports this morning are that the Ukrainians have reached the outskirts of Lysychansk, the city in Luhansk the Russians spent weeks to capture over the summer.
Not a great time to be a Russian soldier.
Yes you do. I know because I served 4 years in the army as a radio operator.
I can still remember basic stuff, like how to fire a rifle, etc. But all the trades training I received is basically useless. The vehicles I was trained to operate? Not in use anymore. Ditto with the radios, crypto gear, etc.
And don’t get me started on how my bad knees would screw me over today.
Sven Asai
Yes, they are searching for contract soldiers, that’s correct, but it’s nowhere written that they are sought for the war or ‘special operation’ in Ukraine. That part stems only from your sick propaganda brains.
rainyday
What else would they be recruiting soldiers for right now for Christ’s sake???
Bob Fosse
"Patriotically-minded citizens are choosing to sign contracts for three or six months to take part in the special military operation," major Sergei Ardashev said”
Major Sergei Ardashev’s sick propaganda brain?
Nemo
offering the equivalent of 3 months’ wage on a monthly basis to sit around in Russia? Not likely.
These poor sods are cannon fodder. They’re betting “it won’t be me and I’ll get rich.”
Russia is betting most of them will get killed and it won’t have to pay. Which is good because they probably cannot.
Haaa Nemui
Errr... very first sentence of the article.
WA4TKG
Good luck Schmock
venze
Russia turns to recruiting trucks, big wages to woo volunteer soldiers:
If true, is Putin seemingly at his wits ends?
He could go "scorched earth, quickly, harshly & uncompromisingly" to react to ongoing depressive situation.
It means nuclear war can't be ruled out..(?)
itsonlyrocknroll
Russia army has 1,150,628 servicemen.
Why would it be necessary to recruit untrained civilians, in effect as contract cannon fodder?
It is time for Russian government to admit defeat and withdraw
Coulda been
Does enlistment also come with a short term insurance policy that benefits their parents?
The selling points for enlistment must be interesting- weaving and ducking practice, how to extinguish tank fires, running (backwards) drills, submerged escape drills (navy), listening to propaganda ad nauseum and artillery practice at civilian targets.
Rodney
Different approach to Ukraine where men 18-60 are pressganged and sent to the frontline with only three weeks training, unless they pay $3000 to their local commander to stay in their village as a home guard. Retreating from the battlefield is dealt with by the Neo-Nazi battalions in the rear guard or 15 year prison sentences by the government. According to the WSJ among others, Ukraine doesn’t have enough money to pay their soldiers.
Rodney
putin is smart. He is only using low level infantry and out of date weapons. He knows the war will extend into Europe and beyond, including japan with it us bases.
Mr Kipling
Tooheysnew....
Since 2007 the yearly intake of 140,000 or so draftees are prohibited from serving abroad. There will be some serving in Ukraine, this is the Russian military after all, if a commander needs some trucks driven and only has draftees to drive, the draftees are not going to pull out a copy of military regulations and start an argument! But there not a significant number.
If Putin moves from the "special Military operation" to a war footing he could send draftees and more significantly its reservists.... about 2 million.