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Russia unleashes missiles, drones at Ukraine after Kyiv secures tanks; 11 dead

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"What we saw today, new strikes on civilian Ukrainian infrastructure is not waging war, it's waging war crimes”

Civilian targets, it’s terrorism.

A regular will be along soon to attempt to justify this or talk about 2014, but it’s impossible to justify this in any way.

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The Kremlin said it saw the promised delivery of Western tanks as evidence of growing "direct involvement" of the United States and Europe in the 11-month-old war, something both deny.

One way to ensure further direct involvement is murdering civilians. Dumbasses.

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This is a forever war, in Europe that would push European in a depression

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A Predictable response from Putin.

he’s a one trick pony

The Kremlin said it saw the promised delivery of Western tanks as evidence of growing "direct involvement" of the United States and Europe

no, direct involvement would be American & European soldiers operating these weapons. If that ever did happen, this war would be over in a week.

Putin is just envious that the weapons Ukraine are receiving are so much better that those Russia are receiving from Iran & North Korea

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Oh my god, Kursk tank battle references? then “it’s not fare” we only want to demilitarize Ukrainian, de-nazi the Ukrainian but on YouTube Russian troops are seen waving nazi flags? Starting to think Russia is a decade or two several behind the rest of the world. We will burn the latest western tanks? Good luck with that. The game is up Mr Putin, like Hitler time is up. Putin is a sick old man desperate to leave a legacy, sorry you pale next Stalin Mr Putin you are destined to be No2.

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The Kremlin said it saw the promised delivery of Western tanks as evidence of growing "direct involvement" of the United States and Europe

That's why in retaliation Putin is taking the war to his enemies, and directly attacking the territory and military or the US and Europe. Brave Putin.

Hey up, no he isn't, he's still carrying out bully-boy terrorist attacks on civilians in Ukraine.

If the fight is against NATO, why is he still attacking Ukraine?

Because if there were really 'direct involvement' by the big boys, Putin would be in no position to whine and posture, the Kremlin would look a bit like that house in the top photo and he would be looking for a clean pair of pants.

Be careful what you wish for, Vlad.

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A child having a temper tantrum.

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Blowing up civilians (the cruelty IS the point) because that's how abusive partners on a country level roll.

Angry that its being rejected for Western democracy.

Unable to win on the battlefield.

Too cowardly to fight the West they really hate.

So blow up the civilian population. THAT will show them!

The Moscow midget seems to think that Ukraine will buckle to his abuse like the Russians have, that if he couples enough vodka and consumer goods (or maybe just the vodka) with the right amount of violence and oppression, then the population of Ukraine will give up and abandon democracy as his own has.

Mini-me miscalculated. Like all dictators (including and especially the Nazis he claims to hate but secretly mimics), Poo-tin consistently mistakes the desire of democracies to avoid conflict for a lack of will to life as they choose and its going to ensure Russia's defeat in this war.

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Exhibit A of why you don’t announce something that you don’t have yet.

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Exhibit A of why you don’t announce something that you don’t have yet.

Exhibit A of why despite your protestations the support to Ukraine will continue. Bombing civilians is not the way to end a war or win sympathy.

Thanks for the tanks.

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Thanks for the tanks.

classic !

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Thanks for the tanks.

Those 14 tanks will stop these kind of attacks?

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Those 14 tanks will stop these kind of attacks?

They’ll stop some kind of attacks.

I’m not an expert on warfare but I’m sure 14 tanks is better than no tanks.

What do you think?

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so todays attack failed?

the difference is, Ukraine uses its limited missiles etc to destroy Russian military targets, thus reducing Russia’s military capabilities.

russia however, uses its missiles to destroy civilian targets, having no affect on Ukraine’s ability to perform military operations.

if Putin’s goal is to demoralise the Ukrainian population, it’s in fact having the opposite affect.

in that regard, yes, todays attack failed.

Those 14 tanks will stop these kind of attacks?

err, 60 tanks actually

Germany 14, UK 14, USA 32

they will be enough to make the newly recruited Russian soldiers & Wagner ex-convicts poop their pants as they’re in full retreat

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We really need to goad Putin into attacking a NATO country. So we can eliminate all Russian forces in Ukraine as quickly as possible and put an end this senseless murder of civilians. Time to stop letting Putin play the "nuclear threat".

It wil take an all out involvement of NATO in Ukraine or the end of the Putin Regime to bring this war to a stop.

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but I’m sure 14 tanks is better than no tanks

Not if you get attacked every day for 6 months to 1 year until they actually arrive.

that’s a liability you didn’t need to have.

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I mean if you take the very highest number anyone is reporting for Russia tank losses- they would still have well over 1000 left.

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60 tanks.

More daily brutal Putin's war without concern or humanity for civilians.

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What a filthy little criminal Putin is.

Defenders/apologists for this and those sidestepping it are going to need to increase the whataboutery by some levels here.

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Blacklabel - they still have thousands in storage, probably more than any one country in the world. A lot of those in storage probably aren't in the best shape or have been robbed for parts, but we would be foolish to underestimate Russian numbers in this error. Better to err on the side of overestimation.

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they would still have well over 1000 left.

they’ve donated well over that number to Ukraine already - thanks for the tanks Russia

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but I’m sure 14 tanks is better than no tanks

Not if you get attacked every day for 6 months to 1 year until they actually arrive.

That’s an awful lot of speculation. I thought you were against that kind of thing.

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With yet another wanton act of violence against a civilian population Putin's Russia reveals itself to be very much the tip of the spear of State terrorism in our world today, but we mustn't forget the criminal record of Western authoritarian "democracies" waging wars of neo-colonialism, overthrowing foreign governments that refuse to kowtow and, spying with malicious intent even on their own people. Although a separate but related issue, now would be a good time for the people in the West to push hard on their own governments and "take back control" by abolishing such nefarious anti-democratic tools of despotic rule, such as the 1917 Espionage Act in the US and the Official Secrets Act in the UK. The recent Belmarsh Tribunal convened to highlight the atrocious treatment of Julian Assange and other whistleblowers for democracy remind us all that we in the West need to clean up our own backyards if we want to claim the high moral ground over Putin's brand of Russian despotism.

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Ukrainians and Russians killing each other this is a dream scenario for some.

This will be prolonged for as long as possible.

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Yet at least 1000 remain.

so the 60 tanks mean nothing, just provoked Russia even more.

first time those Abrams break down they will never move again. No parts, no techs, complicated repair.

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"The Kremlin said it saw the promised delivery of Western tanks as evidence of growing direct involvement of the United States and Europe . . . "

In other words, this is just another Nazi like excuse from the Kremlin to continue its war crimes by brutalizing the people of a peaceful country and neighbor who never posed any kind of threat.

It's like old Soviet era dogma from many decades ago. Some things never change.

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Russian tanks are antiques ask saving. Russian conscripts committed suicide rather than return to the war.

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Blacklabel

Yet at least 1000 remain.

so the 60 tanks mean nothing, just provoked Russia even more.

Russia was fighting a war against civilians in Ukraine long before tanks were promised to Ukraine, so this is just a pretext, with the reasoning that Russia wants to deter more tanks being given to Ukraine.

60 tanks is what is promised now. There will be more. And it will make a difference. Russia doesn't have the same capability as these tanks and Bradleys.

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Those 14 tanks will stop these kind of attacks?

It isn't going to be 14 or even 60.

Eventually it's going to be several hundred and those several hundred will make a difference at the strategic level as they are far more lethal and survivable than the mobile cremetoriums that the Russians are drving to their graves now.

As for the missle strikes against the civilian population, no they will not.

But the increased air defenses being sent and the likely donation of F-16s will. As would the ability to start hoding Russian targets in Russia proper sure would.

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The Russians must have used up all their missiles by now, so they are using N Korean or Chinese missiles. They can do that to Ukraine but when Ukraine gets foreign weapons, Russia wound't allow it. Bandit-logic nations just like NK and C.

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Wallace,how are they gonna transport these tank ,since Ukraine is land lot,and Russian have planes and they have be transported by truck 800 miles to the east,they are sitting duck

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And the Great Ultra MAGA King and Putin BFF has graced us with his ultra-wisdom on Ukraine...

*Former President Donald Trump, whose first impeachment was linked to his dealings with Ukraine, on Thursday appeared to criticize the US and Germany over their recent decisions to provide battle tanks to Kyiv at a time when Russia is expected to launch another major offensive. Trump suggested offering tanks to Ukraine would lead to the use of nuclear weapons. Meanwhile, Trump said it would be "easy" to end the war, without providing any suggestions on how this would be accomplished.*

"FIRST COME THE TANKS, THEN COME THE NUKES. Get this crazy war ended, NOW. So easy to do," Trump, who is running for president again in 2024, said in a post on his social media platform Truth Social.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-suggests-providing-tanks-ukraine-234832953.html

This from a guy that suggested he was going to nuke North Korea, and then try to blame it on someone else....likely his usual fall-guy, Hugo Chavez...or Elvis...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-discussed-using-nuclear-weapon-north-korea-2017-blaming-someone-rcna65120

With each tweet and post Trump is showing us how far gone his mind is...and that he belongs in a white rubber room, and not the White House...

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Yrral

Wallace,how are they gonna transport these tank ,since Ukraine is land lot,and Russian have planes and they have be transported by truck 800 miles to the east,they are sitting duck

Thanks for your concern, but I think they have it under control.

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This Ukraine Russia conflict I think is the best play so far.

Iraq was a massacre but still some invaders died because their soldiers were involved directly.

This time they are just giving weapons and letting the Ukrainians and Russians kill each other.

Anybody has a running total of arms purchases and orders so far?

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Anybody has a running total of arms purchases and orders so far?

Ian - on the Russian side or the Ukrainian side?

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one question

where these rockets comes from?

some experts from above may tell me.i know -according to news published here daily-that Russia is without any rocket,bullets.so rockets were not russian.

waiting some reply.as article of story may be needed updated and corrected.

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Ian - for the US contribution (I assume that is what you are interested in) scroll down about halfway, and in the left hand column. The drawdowns are listed sequentially.

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Not contribution. The arms sold to other countries. Despite the widespread financial crisis arms sales are brisk I believe.

Poland purchases for example were prominent in the news. I think I've seen brisk himars orders, also tanks,

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Ah thanks.

Amazing how these things work isn't it.

People are freezing and getting hungry and going on strikes but govts have no choice but to buy arms instead

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Ian - I agree, it sucks that Russia invaded Ukraine, but this is where we are today. I do believe Russian spending on weapons is up a bunch too.

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Number of tanks pledged is over 100 now and proposed readiness should be in time for the Russian spring offensive. Awesome to see the Europeans coming together on this, even if it required committing the Abrams to do it.

Good Luck to the Ukrainians, defending their territory from the Invaders!

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However the senior Ukrainian official, who spoke with ABC News on condition of anonymity, said the German-made Leopard tanks were also urgently needed by Ukraine because its stocks of ammunition for its soviet-era tanks are "running out."

Ukraine is unable to produce new ammunition for these Soviet era tanks, the official said, "so this forced us to find an alternative way."

so these nearly 100 tanks, some of which wont show up for months or even this year, will be the only tanks Ukraine will have?

https://abcnews.go.com/International/ukraine-expects-100-leopard-2-tanks-12-countries/story?id=96620510

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Of course - every time something "special" happens, those RuSSians answer with more war crimes, more attrocities, more genocide attempts!

Concerning providing Ulraine with needed arms (to gain freedom again), there will be ways if there is a will. Shipping thru Poland is one option, air transport another one. (@Yrral)

Besides everything else - NATO isn't directly involved in this war. Countries providing Ukraine with the necessary military hardware do their best and all they can to prevent PUTAin from proceeding in case he should gain the upper hand (which won't happen - just because of those deliveries and Ukrainian's strength).

The limited 3 day operation to erase Nazis, satans, and alike is a complete failure!

Ukraine prevails!

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Blacklabel - they are talking about Soviet-era tanks and ammo.

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Russia unleashes missiles, drones at Ukraine after Kyiv secures tanks; 11 dead

This is as much as they can do in response to the tanks Ukraine will now be getting.

When the west begins donating fighter Jets, the response will be the same. There is nothing else they can do, but what they have already done many times in the past 12 months of war.

Putin can declare "all out war" against Ukraine and mobilize the entire nation, switch all manufacturing to war supplies as was last done during WWII, in an attempt to complete the invasion of Ukraine and incorporate it all as part of Russia. But that becomes a very dangerous and risky proposition internally for Putin and his ongoing leadership. There are those hawks that would approve, but there are also many who oppose this war already who could take action against Putin to overthrow him.

Putin and his rule over Russia is safer with the war being fought as it is. Declaring all out war would not be popular with the average Russian who is able to see past propaganda and access alternative news sources from independent providers via the internet. Older Russians that rely totally on Russian news will support Putin through ignorance. Younger generations, those expected to fight and die are going to dig deeper for the truth and oppose this war where Russia is not being directly attacked as Ukraine is. They can see there is no danger to Russia but that which Putin manufactures.

More missiles and drones, and a spring offensive where they will be placing all their marbles on the table, hoping to blitzkrieg Ukraine and get a speedy conclusion to the horror they began. Ukraine needs to again hold the line until their counter offensive is ready, and see if they have enough to route the invaders.

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Ian - I agree, it sucks that Russia invaded Ukraine, but this is where we are today. I do believe Russian spending on weapons is up a bunch too.

Well naturally.

If countries that aren't in wars and don't have the money is spending so much on it..

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It is very sad to lose civilians in a war.

This is the consequence of the mistakes of politicians and military actions.

I would like no more civilians to die, but this is the beginning of the escalation of the war..

Do not provoke Russia anymore, seek negotiation, for the good of the Ukrainian people..

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Peter14,when will all this pie in the sky come true, Ukraine got be 6 month,the Republicans will cut off Aid

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I would like no more civilians to die, but this is the beginning of the escalation of the war..

If you don't want any more civilians to die, why do you support the side that is killing them?

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Blacklabel - they are talking about Soviet-era tanks and ammo.

Ok I don’t know what percentage of their total tank force those would be. But that means all those become useless.

I really think they are over relying on tanks that have simply been “pledged”.

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one hour from my comment and no reply.

possibly Russians have rockets than?did we read lies here for 11 months?

how abt other weapons-Russians may have as well?also will to fight?

what a "surprise"?

as I wrote yesterday all of you who are excited from NATO tanks to be sent to UA-you may be dissapointed as one by one will be damaged and burned without any extra efforts.what will you send than?

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TL - if you think Ukrainians are suffering now, and they are, what do you think will happen if Ukraine surrenders to Russia?

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Ian - I suppose it is a matter of priorities. Even poorer countries are giving what they able to as they realize Russia will probably not stop with Ukraine if they are successful.

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U,is the Bahamas on the next invasion list,they do not have an army

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They will probably not stop with whatever it is you're thinking even if they are successful

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Ian - exactly, which is why we deal with this now or we deal with this later. The sooner the better, imo.

Blacklabel - Ukraine has several hundred tanks and several thousand other armored fighting vehicles. A good chunk of those are Soviet era, it looks like, but more and more are newer. I agree, Ukraine shouldn't put all of it's eggs in one basket, but I don't think they are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_Armed_Forces_of_Ukraine

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People can speculate on the motivations of all sides but what is plain is that weapons manufacturers are profiting immensely from the deaths of Ukrainians and Russians

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Ukrainians and Russians killing each other and profiting immensely from it

this is a dream scenario for some.

This will be prolonged for as long as possible.

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Tom Balmforth and Ivan Lyubysh-Kirdey

I am very dissapointed,no UA winning news today,no celebration,no party,no selfies next to dead moskals.

No winning news from Bakhmut,from front...nothing.No step closer to final glorious UA victory over Russia?

Waiting mode for NATO tanks?

Time close this thread mod.

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People can speculate on the motivations of all sides but what is plain is that weapons manufacturers are profiting immensely from the deaths of Ukrainians and Russians

Obviously. The solution is the same as all the other problems, be it people dying, fuel prices, refugess, etc.

Russia not invading other countries solves all of these issues quickly. Russia not doing this means they will persist.

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Ian - well Russia started it, so I guess their arms industry needed a boost?

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Russia probably did it to give their enemies' arms industries a boost

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Ian - how gracious of them! I would rather be a whole lot poorer and have Russia just go home and leave Ukraine, but that's up to Russia.

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People can speculate on the motivations of all sides but what is plain is that weapons manufacturers are profiting immensely from the deaths of Ukrainians and Russians

Obviously. The solution is the same as all the other problems, be it people dying, fuel prices, refugess, etc.

Russia not invading other countries solves all of these issues quickly. Russia not doing this means they will persist.

Nope.

If it's not Russia it will be other nations and regions that will be stirred up into war for arms profits

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Nope. If it's not Russia it will be other nations and regions that will be stirred up into war for arms profits

Odd reasoning, bizarre.

Are you saying that if Russia were to cease invading then the baton would quickly pass to another country to invade somewhere else? But since Russia is invading somewhere then they are waiting for their turn at funding weapons manufacturers?

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Read it again

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Ian - how gracious of them! I would rather be a whole lot poorer and have Russia just go home and leave Ukraine, but that's up to Russia.

Youre probably not an arms dealer

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Read it again

OK, and?

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and I hoped you'd get it

Get what?

"If it's not Russia it will be other nations and regions that will be stirred up into war for arms profits"

I'm not sure even you get what it is you are miserably trying to say.

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Waiting mode for NATO tanks?

we’re still waiting for Russia's victory parade in Kiev.

been waiting for nearly ten months now.

@ian

america & it’s allies aren’t supporting Ukraine for monetary purposes. And for you too think so is very cynical. Maybe they’re doing it cause it’s the right thing to do - standing up to the bully.

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i have just checked news from other sources at it seems that heroi had a pretty bad day,also fresh weaponry from Poland destroeyd...I know its hard to admit that even "magic weapons" cant change fact that UA have no chance to win over Russia,in 1945 Hitler also had "magic weapons" too and believed these are "game changers" all of us know how all ended.same time I understand that befehl is befehl and you simply have to keep own "line"

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I said the problem was the arms dealers stirring up troubles so they could sell arms and profit

That's even sillier than the silly thing that I thought you were trying to cough out. It's the arms dealers that create the wars, not people like Putin. You have proof of this of course?

Now that I 'got it' I needn't bother with you again.

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YrralToday 11:57 am JST

Peter14,when will all this pie in the sky come true, Ukraine got be 6 month,the Republicans will cut off Aid

No Larry, they wont. There are more Republicans that want to ensure Russia does not succeed than those who want it to. The US is smart enough to know wars are better fought on other peoples territory and this disarming of Russian weapons stockpiles is happening without US forces having to die to do it. Russia started this invasion and the US on both sides oppose it and Russian ambitions to expand its borders. There will be no "turning off" of support for Ukraine, no matter how many people like yourself say otherwise.

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Bandit-logic nations just like NK and C.

The article is completely empty, about nothing, just to knock out a tear. But here you are ! What makes you think you have the right to reason like this??? Don't you think your phrase is idiotic? This is at least. And by large, it is manipulated by American, conditionally, misanthropic propaganda coming from every iron. Why do you consider yourself normal, but a Chinese and a North Korean a bandit? you're a puppet!

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Ukraine got be 6 month,the Republicans will cut off Aid

I'll take that bet, Larry. 6 months from today, loser quits JT, never to return. And Larry, we will know if you come back with another user name ;)

Bet?

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@Eastman

in 1945 Hitler also had "magic weapons" too and believed these are "game changers" all of us know how all ended.

Are you conveniently leaving out the lend-lease arrangement with the USA? around 17mil tonnes worth of supplies shipped to the Soviet Union to help them keep going.

Not to mention the millions of lives lost to keep up the defense.

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Russia is sending a strong message to Ukraine that they must stop embarrassing Russia by killing their soldiers and stealing their tanks.

Seems logical. Ukraine will just lay down now, right?

 

...right?

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Not to mention the millions of lives lost to keep up the defense.

I sometimes hear this as a point of pride, but I'm like how bad was your recently-purged army and how unprepared were you as a country that you lost like 8-9 million soldiers in like 4 years?

Not to minimize the immense suffering of both Soviet civilians and military and the world is grateful for the Soviet participation as an Ally that played the largest single role in defeating the European Axis powers, but "we lost the most soldiers ever" is not the flex they seem to think it is.

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Eastman - how come you don't want to talk about Serbian President Vucic's comments that Crimea and Donbas are Ukrainian? Why are you avoiding it? Better to just get it out there. You will feel better.

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AlternativeOpinionToday 01:51 pm JST

@Eastman

in 1945 Hitler also had "magic weapons" too and believed these are "game changers" all of us know how all ended.

Are you conveniently leaving out the lend-lease arrangement with the USA? around 17mil tonnes worth of supplies shipped to the Soviet Union to help them keep going.

Not to mention the millions of lives lost to keep up the defense.

Let me add-yes and they did it for free....sure.

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