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Russian COVID spike persists, setting new death record

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Facing widespread resistance to vaccination

Curious to learn whether there actually is widespread resistance to vaccination in Russia. Or will our Russia-philes and others in the global far right claim there isn't, it's just 'western' media trying to negatively portray Russia once again. And then say, 'the 'west' is worse' like the Soviets taught them to say. Who knows what actually goes on and what is true behind the heavily oiled steel curtains, where Putin and his oligarchs have such great control of information, and also have such great control over media.

https://rsf.org/en/russia Stifling atmosphere for independent journalists

With draconian laws, website-blocking, Internet cuts and leading news outlets reined in or throttled out of existence, the pressure on independent media has grown steadily since the big anti-government protests in 2011 and 2012.

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Where are all the posters who were pushing Sputnik a few short weeks ago?

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Wasn't there the same story just a few days back? JT must be out of other world news..

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With only about one-third of Russians vaccinated, it’s pretty clear that there’s either widespread resistance to vaccination in Russia, or widespread apathy, or both. That makes it impossible to determine the real-life efficacy of Sputnik, at least based on the info in this article. I remember past media reports that it had been found to be effective, although at a lower level than those vaccines available in Western countries.

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The national coronavirus task force said Saturday that 1,075 people had died from the virus in the past day and that 37,678 new infections were tallied — the largest single-day numbers of the pandemic.

My sympathies with the Russian people, they are suffering because their despotic regime thought it was more important to harm vaccination efforts in other countries than vaccinating their own people.

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While extolling Sputnik V and three other domestic vaccines, state-controlled media often criticized Western-made shots, a message that many saw as feeding doubts about vaccines in general.

My vaccines good, your vaccines bad is a self defeating strategy.

If only the Russian authorities had spent more efforts on sharing data about their vaccine.

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Maybe they should have focused less effort on propaganda that has now turned around and is biting their own ass.

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"And there is no way to walk between the raindrops.”

And "a hard rain's gonna fall" on Russia. Putin will need more than an umbrella to weather the storm that Covid will kick up this coming winter of Russia's discontent. When unvaxxed folk finally realize vodka won't protect them, Putin may face the "grapes of wrath" of the Russian people who won't be appeased till some scapegoat is fingered.

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The fact that Russia is now implementing a China style internet censorship, with servers monitoring and slowing down web traffic is not surprising.

The process, underway since 2019, represents the start of perhaps the world’s most ambitious digital censorship effort outside China. Under President Vladimir V. Putin, who once called the internet a “C.I.A. project” and views the web as a threat to his power, the Russian government is attempting to bring the country’s once open and freewheeling internet to heel.

NYT

Another paranoid man retreating inwards…..

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The Russians are also not wearing masks as much as they should. I think there's a lack of mask-wearing on the public transport, for example. Plus, as you can see in the photo, they share the same problem with Americans - obesity.

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@Alex

Wasn't there the same story just a few days back? JT must be out of other world news..

Exactly. It seems they want us to believe that the situation in Russia is the worst. But let's see the statistics. Russia: yesterday 37 thousand new infections, 1075 deaths (229 thousand deaths total). USA: yesterday 99 thousand new infections, 2159 deaths (735 thousand deaths total). But if you believe some posters, the crisis only in Russia,

@P. Smith

Where are all the posters who were pushing Sputnik a few short weeks ago?

Where are all the posters who were pushing Pfizer / Moderna a few short weeks ago?

@The Avenger

Maybe they should have focused less effort on propaganda that has now turned around and is biting their own ass.

Good advice to the U.S. authorities! And one from me: put your own house in order first, only then lecture others.

@ulysses

If only the Russian authorities had spent more efforts on sharing data about their vaccine

All the data is shared with concerned parties, that's why Sputnik is used in dozens of countries.

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Wasn't there the same story just a few days back? JT must be out of other world news..

The truth hurts for some.

Russia is an unmitigated Covid trainwreck. And with the vast majority unvaccinated - and those who have been using that dud local vaccine - one must fear the very cold winter just weeks away.

Shameful from the little dictator Putin.

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All the data is shared with concerned parties, that's why Sputnik is used in dozens of countries.

No it was not and that is the issue!!!

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Russia falling apart due to a weak vaccine and lies from their leaders?! I’m astonished. I never would have imagined this happening. Never.

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Russia: yesterday 37 thousand new infections, 1075 deaths (229 thousand deaths total). USA: yesterday 99 thousand new infections, 2159 deaths (735 thousand deaths total). But if you believe some posters, the crisis only in Russia,

If your point is that the American right wing is pushing vaccine disinformation aided by Russia, I totally agree.

The problem with Russia is they are facing a blowback from the propaganda they did over the last years and now innocent Russians are suffering as a result.

I wish people would care for their fellow countrymen rather than defending despotic dictators!!!!

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Where are all the posters who were pushing Pfizer / Moderna a few short weeks ago?

Pfizer , Moderna data is there for all to see including side effects and deaths.

Russia claims not a single side effect from Sputnik, no one would believe that unless your understanding stopped growing after elementary school!!!

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If your point is that the American right wing is pushing vaccine disinformation aided by Russia, I totally agree

No, my point is that American medical system is worse then Russian, statistics says so. And again, "The Great Righwing / Russian disinformation conspiracy"?? Oh please... While the Russians have their load of problems with Covid, at least they have the decency not to blame for these problems CIA hackers, western propaganda or leftwing conspirators.

Pfizer , Moderna data is there for all to see including side effects and deaths

Wow, what a surprise!! A couple of days ago on another thread one JT poster furiously denied any side effects and deaths from Pfizer and Moderna ("no, zero, zilch"). So you admit there were deaths? Good, move in the right direction.

Russia claims not a single side effect from Sputnik

If there were any serious side effects from the Sputnik all the Western propaganda apparatus will be hooting and hollering about it 24/7.

You can put even five exclamation marks in all your sentences, but the Sputnik is reliable and it works. Period.

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“Russians don’t care. Russians just ignore it and go on with their lives.” Except when they don’t.

Where’d that poster go. Hopefully not home for consultation as that would likely result in infection.

Russia has been an unmitigated disaster actively suppressed by Putin no matter what Red Wind would have one believe.

An untested vaccine, a scared despot and an untrusting population. Gee, what could go wrong?

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South Africa and Namibia have suspended the approvals given to Sputnik V vaccine due to reports that Ad5 vector used in the vaccine can lead to a higher susceptibility to HIV. SA and Namibia already have a high HIV prevalence rate and they don't want to take chances.

https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(20)32156-5/fulltext

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No, my point is that American medical system is worse then Russian, statistics says so.

ROFL it’s not. The Russian medical systems are opaque, no one knows what goes on there.

Wow, what a surprise!! A couple of days ago on another thread one JT poster furiously denied any side effects and deaths from Pfizer and Moderna ("no, zero, zilch"). So you admit there were deaths? Good, move in the right direction.

Again no evidence to back up the claim. But what about the Russian claims, that you support , that the Sputnik has no side effects. As I said unless your education stopped at elementary school you wouldn’t believe that.

If there were any serious side effects from the Sputnik all the Western propaganda apparatus will be hooting and hollering about it 24/7.

ROFL, so we should believe Sputnik has no side effects. Does it have any effects???

You can put even five exclamation marks in all your sentences, but the Sputnik is reliable and it works. Period.

An assertion without evidence is just propaganda!!!!!!

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There are obvious side effects and deaths from vaccines and also among the vaccinated.

ROFL, iF there are side effects due to the vaccine they obviously are vaccinated!!!!

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”and also”

means deaths aabd side effects caused directly by the vaccine as one thing. and also side effects and deaths after vaccination caused by other things, such as catching COVID after being vaccinated.

And also…ROFL indeed, learn to read.

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This is a self inflicted damage from the Russian government, that at the same time criticized exaggeratedly the expected uncommon side effects from the vaccines in general (using data available thanks to the exemplary transparency result from simultaneous testing in many countries) and then completely hiding the same information and just asking the world to trust them about the safety and efficacy of their vaccine.

People getting the message "vaccines are bad, and ours specially bad because we can't even put forward the same data that other makes had" is an obvious result. In some ways this is what happens when antivaxxers get support from the government to spread disinformation.

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means deaths aabd side effects caused directly by the vaccine as one thing.  and also side effects and deaths after vaccination caused by other things, such as catching COVID after being vaccinated.

ROFL, does that mean anything?

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Good to see an article clearly stating a direct vs indirect COVID-19-linked death. God knows how many 'COVID-19 deaths' are really only contributing factors. I imagine most.

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In Russia the most of the deaths (near 90%) are among elderly patients also above two thirds percent people 60 years and older are not vaccinated.

That's the facts.

And hidden joy I see from some individuals.

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All of the covid deaths are from the unvaccinated. 350,000 deaths.

The government says 225,000 deaths.

Government figures only take into account fatalities where the virus was established as the primary cause of death after an autopsy.

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A medical staff member in a protective suit treats a COVID-19 patient at an ICU in Infectious Hospital No. 2 in Nizhny Novgorod, Russia,

The description from the top picture says a lot about the state of Russian ICU units. A simple empty room with single cot and broken cabinet with no medical equipment other than a portable drip. Third world stuff in Russia. Horrifying.

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Third world stuff in Russia. Horrifying.

They just must be overloaded and out of space due to the influx of patients, happened many times all over the world. Remember the NY nurses wearing garbage bags because hospitals were out of supplies?

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Wasn't there the same story just a few days back? JT must be out of other world news..

You seem to be confused by the meaning of the word “news”. The headline gives a clue as to why this is newsworthy, the article expands further.

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You can put even five exclamation marks in all your sentences, but the Sputnik is reliable and it works. Period.

Tell the Russians. They seem to have different ideas.

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God knows how many 'COVID-19 deaths' are really only contributing factors. I imagine most.

How scientific.

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Bob, you seem to misunderstand that the keyword is "newsworthy"

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@GdTokyo

Russia has been an unmitigated disaster actively suppressed by Putin no matter what Red Wind would have one believe

"A Red under every bed"? When out of logical arguments play the "Opressor Putin" card? If you compare statistics of Russia and USA you'd see what country is a real unmitigated disaster.

@ulysses

that the Sputnik has no side effects. As I said unless your education stopped at elementary school you wouldn’t believe that

Unless your education stopped at elementary school you would know that if you claim something you should present some proof. You claim Sputnik has side effects. Facts?

An assertion without evidence is just propaganda!!!!!!

Yes, you should remember it when write something.

Does it have any effects???

Sputnik is approved and is successfully used by dozens of countries. Google is your friend.

@Bob Fosse

Tell the Russians. They seem to have different ideas

Tell Americans about Pfizer and Moderna. They seem to have even more different ideas about this stuff.

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Bob, you seem to misunderstand that the keyword is "newsworthy"

Huge increase in deaths, huge increase in infections, Putin orders to stay home, only a third of the country vaccinated….

While it may be embarrassing to you and something you wish the news would gloss over, it is most certainly newsworthy.

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Tell the Russians. They seem to have different ideas

Tell Americans about Pfizer and Moderna. They seem to have even more different ideas about this stuff.

Deflecting won’t help. More than 30% of Americans are vaccinated. Stay on topic, this is about the awful situation in Russia right now.

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this is about the awful situation in Russia right now

Yeah, USA has the nighest in the world mortality for weeks, its new infections are three times that of Russia, but the big news how awful the situation there.

Deflecting won’t help.

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 is most certainly newsworthy.

ha ha ha

more like click worthy.

The government fear propaganda campaign isn’t working so well so time to ramp up the old and tired anti Russia campaign for a distraction.

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Pathetic.

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Japan did a much better job compared to Russia If you look at the numbers. 10x times better! Russia should be a smaller country, hard to manage all that land so far away. Japanese Islands will be better with Japan rather then Russia. People would be already vaccinated. Higher standard of life, longer life expectancy by 20 years, #1 most powerful passport, more options in life compared to Putins Russia.

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99% of the death cases are of those unvaccinated, the vaccine itself does its job for those who took it, and it's funny to see some people discredit Sputnik V without reading all the details.

Some of these comments showing 0 compassion just because it's Russia, just vile.

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No fan of the WHO here, but why isn't Sputnik on their list of approved vaccines?

https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/agency/who/

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