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Russian disinformation spreading in new ways despite bans

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Russian disinformation spreading in new ways

I am sure there is "Russian disinformation", but the article writer should really be more concerned by Ukrainian and Western disinformation, which is freely promoted by Western media and big tech. It is scary day when we have a Ministry of Truth controlling what the populace can see and not see. 1984 was supposed to be a fiction book, not an instruction manual...

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This is the Russian disinformation: The Russian army is winning at the eastern front of Ukraine.

Something and someone doesn't like to hear although it was a fact!

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The Disinformation Situation Center, a Europe-based coalition of disinformation researchers, found that some RT video content was showing up on social media under a new brand name and logo. In the case of some video footage, the RT brand was simply removed from the video and reposted on a new YouTube channel not covered by the EU's ban.

LOL

These so called "experts" may be not so smart at all.If they were smart as average reader of JapanToday they will knew that RT using different platforms than Youtube or Facebook for a very long time and yes-despite these "strong measures" from EU people are still reading their news and programs despite this open censorhip.

If we are talking about misinformation lets look into own work first dear JapanToday...there is a lot of it in your articles you are publishing here without any verifications of facts...just copy and paste system.List is virtually endless.

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This article itself is 'disinformation'. We are told that EVERYTHING Ukraine says is true and EVERYTHING Russia says is false but there have been a number of Ukrainian lies busted in the Western press itself and a number of disputed Russian claims have proven to be true. I read a number of 'news' sites and, as it turns out, the examples given here of Russian lies:

"Claims on these sites include allegations that Ukraine's army has staged some deadly Russian attacks to curry global support, that Ukrainian President volodymyr zelenskyy is faking public appearances, or that Ukrainian refugees are committing crimes in Germany and Poland."

turn out to be true according to sites with no connection to Russia including CNN.

The intent here is not to shut down Russian lies, but to shut down any and all Russian voices and to make the 'Western' voice the only voice anyone will hear. Hiram W Johnson, a strongly anti-WWI U.S. Senator from California said in 1917, "The first casualty, when war comes, is truth." This article is a demonstration of that observation and what better way to kill truth than to silence it completely? All this article attempts to justify is CENSORSHIP and anyone who reports 'news' favorable to Russia MUST be lying. So, shall we trust the Censors? Or try to hear both sides and judge for ourselves which is credible and which comes from people known widely to be corrupt? And, historically, given the individuals and regimes which the U.S. has supported in the past and supports now and the general 'credibility' of the U.S. government, who shall we believe?

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This article itself is 'disinformation'. We are told that EVERYTHING Ukraine says is true and EVERYTHING Russia says is false

Even if you're right, the Kremlin deserves all the misinformation they get. Did you forget they trolled the world with their troll farms for years before this? Did you forget that they trolled the Olympics with their state-sponsored doping?

I laugh if Russia is not liking the disinformation. I laugh heartily. Boo hoo Russia, boo hoo.

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After Russia invaded Ukraine last February, the European Union moved to block RT and Sputnik, two of the Kremlin's top channels for spreading propaganda and misinformation about the war.

If same standards were to be applied , a good number of our "free" Western channels should be blocked for the misinformation they spread too.

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one message to all of "fact checkers" aka conquistadors/censors.

you cant silence the truth,by bans,erasing comments here,by official bans from facebook,youtube etc etc.

people will always look for right informations at various sources.even you dislike to see that that they are sourcing info out of your control.

people will never stop thinking and will always will be busy to compare various sources of informations instead of consuming of these from you.

respected media should provide well balanced and verified informations and its up to readers to either accept or reject these news,your role is not to form "public opinion" even with help of open censorship/bans/with help of social media/youtube etc but to provide well balanced informations.if you will not do so your credit will go from bad to worse.

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Funny how the Putin fanboys on here rush to leave comments that prove the article’s point.

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Rainyday for the win.

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Well, the Russians already have Fox News and the rest of the far-right media sphere as part of their cheering section and propaganda partners...

"Comrade" Carlson shills for the Kremlin every night...and is proud of it...

Most of it is better comedy than Colbert, Kimmel, and Meyers....

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There is disinformation, there is spin, and there is truth you don't want known.

The problem is that when you call those last things disinformation, it undermines your spin AND your identifying of actual disinformation.

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it did find instances of false claims with a pro-Ukrainian bent.

Many reports from Kiev have passed the boundaries of propaganda, they should be posted in the comedy section.

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The perfect example of "disinformation";

Feb 20th: "Russian President Vladimir Putin said diplomatic efforts need to intensify to find a resolution to the Ukraine crisis, a signal Moscow may be ready to discuss ways to walk back the threat of war in Europe."

Feb 21st: Russian Ambassador to the United States Anatoly Antonov denied Sunday that the Kremlin is preparing for an invasion of neighboring Ukraine, despite a build-up of roughly 150,000 Russian forces and U.S. intelligence that Russian commanders have received orders to proceed. "There is no invasion, and there [are] no such plans," Antonov said in an interview with "Face the Nation."

Feb 24th: Russia invades Ukraine....

Truth doesn't exist in Putin's Russia - just go in a Moscow street and say "Ukraine is a military invasion and thousands of innocent Ukrainian civilians have been killed"....

See how fast you get thrown off a four story building...

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you cant silence the truth,by bans,erasing comments here,by official bans from facebook,youtube etc etc.

people will always look for right informations at various sources.even you dislike to see that that they are sourcing info out of your control.

Great. Go there then. Nobody here gives a hoot.

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Often what starts as 'Russian disinformation' becomes 'Western media scoop' six months later though. For example, the massive amounts of corruption from throwing billions at the Ukranians to buy weapons and their unethical tactics using civilians as cover... Amnesty had to publish an apology for presenting evidence on such matters BUT I notice it is not retracting it: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/08/statement-on-publication-of-press-release-on-ukrainian-fighting-tactics/.

Mark my words, eventually Zelensky will become demonised as a 'corrupt oligarch who ruined Ukraine' in the Western press when he is no longer necessary...

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Disinformation

You mean the truth?

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Mark my words, eventually Zelensky will become demonised as a 'corrupt oligarch who ruined Ukraine' in the Western press when he is no longer necessary...

It’s a trademark of a particular group of people to ignore what’s happening now and instead talk about what happened years ago or what they imagine will happen in the future. Must be a name for it…

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Nobody trusts Russia so long as they're letting obvious disinformation institutions like the St. Petersburg-based Internet Research Agency (verified by testimonies of ex-workers) spread without disapproval, or at worst with complicity

When ya let something with no integrity impugn your own reputation, then ya lose your own integrity in the process

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Russian disinformation spreading in new ways despite bans

You’ve read the headline, now read some of the comments here and see it for yourselves…

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There is nothing new here, as all intelligent people are well aware that the Russian state produces its own "news" that is designed to show the Russian leadership in the best possible light and to portray Russia as always doing what is just and right and that Russia is the good guy. The voices that would dissent have been closed down, run out of Russia or fined and imprisoned for telling facts that Russian leadership do not agree with. Many sources have been set up and funded by the state, by state paid individuals and companies, to pedal the state view on all things.

Free press no longer operates in Russia, facts that show crimes and errors committed by the state, its leaders and soldiers is illegal in Russia. A fantasy state exists inside Russia where total information control is exercised by the government.

There are many Russian nationalists who live abroad who post here on JT and all other forums to press home the lies provided by Russia and its sources and continually attempt to push their lies as the actual version of truth. Failing that they resort to diversion in using past conflict or occurances, most of which are also slanted in Russia's favor or just brought up to try to discredit the west or the US to justify Russian actions and atrocities.

War brings misinformation to gain advantage but nations with free press agents reporting in the field, that have no involvement in the conflict in Ukraine, release information in their nation and to international press and these are all portrayed as main stream media or lies unless they report something that Ukraine has done, a crime from Ukraine soldiers, or anything that shows Ukraine may have hidden or not volunteered the truth to get an advantage, then they scream it out for all to hear.

It does not matter when one thing is remembered. Russia invaded Ukraine for territorial expansion and to control Ukraine.

Ukraine fights for it's very survival and its continued freedom. Russia invades to destroy Ukraine and it's freedom. Russia has no right to do as it has been doing since 2014. Ukraine has every right to continue to exist. There is no question for me, that Russia lies to further their goals and their goals are hideous, illegal and obviously there is no justification for its actions. Ukraine is not the least corrupt nation in the world, but it is much less corrupt than Russia, and it is in the right fighting invaders. They will continue to have my support until the last Russian invader leaves Ukraine territory.

Russian lies will find no purchase with me, they will simply be ignored.

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By the end of the year, more Russians would be killed in this war, than Americans had been killed in a decade of Vietnam War (think about that rate of losses). They're paying a very heavy price

And yet, they'll never reach their main goal that they started with in the first place - folding Ukraine back as part of the Russian empire. Their best chance, had already past, was at the very start of the war, when Ukraine was unprepared and nearing Kyiv, before Kyiv kicked their ass back to the Russian and Belarus borders

But now, Ukraine and the West are much more prepared and awash with weapons and diversifying energy sources. At most, all they could hope for is get the eastern corner of Ukraine closest to Russia where they can easily protect their supply lines. At best, Putin would die while Ukraine remains a separate state (he's never recognized Ukraine as separate from Russia - it's always been his goal to reunite Ukraine with Russia as his legacy, just as Xi with Taiwan)

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Russian lies will find no purchase with me, they will simply be ignored.

You should to the sound advice of……….yourself.

So Russia lies. We, me, you, know the US lied to the world to start not one but TWO wars in Iraq. Both of these governments and their MSM lackeys can’t be trusted.

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The enemy of Russia—aka, the West—saying that Russia is spreading propaganda is itself propaganda. I don’t believe Russia anymore than I believe the western media—aka, the Democratic Party information wing.

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Mark my words, eventually Zelensky will become demonised as a 'corrupt oligarch who ruined Ukraine' in the Western press when he is no longer necessary...

So the west should just let innocent Ukrainian civilians be murdered in the streets of their own country because of this? I hope you don't think that makes sense bruh.

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gintonic

After Russia invaded Ukraine last February, the European Union moved to block RT and Sputnik, two of the Kremlin's top channels for spreading propaganda and misinformation about the war.

If same standards were to be applied , a good number of our "free" Western channels should be blocked for the misinformation they spread too.

Totally agree. And in fact they have.

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Dear russia promoters, we all sane and moral people see right through your lame texts, so please spare some efforts. No one is reading your lame texts. Sayonara

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What makes a 'politician' a 'politician' ANYWHERE is a talent for LYING. In the case of Ukraine, we KNOW that it is a U.S. sponsored 'proxy' war against Russia because, other than poorly thought out direct invasion of 'weaker' countries, 'proxy war' has become the central technique of U.S. foreign policy for generations now against any country whose leadership is not obedient to U.S. dictates. Precedence counts when judging 'TRUTH' and however much one may doubt 'news' out of Russia, the U.S. has proven itself a bald-faced, in-your-face LIAR too many times to be believed in anything it says. For example, in it's wars upon 'weaker' peoples, the U.S. side is always "WINNING" until, SUDDENLY, it's not and the U.S. is beating cheeks out of the mess it has created and leaving the poor native fools it has seduced to face the justified anger of their countrymen. The difficulty for the U.S. is historical in being so infected with English culture and, in particular, that which has caused England to be known in the world for 700+ years as "Perfidious Albion".

In the case of Ukraine, there is no denying that the extreme rightwing, under zelenskyy's clique, has been murdering their own people in the east since 2014. Russia stepped in. Would any American rue the French for 'stepping in' and WINNING the American Revolution for us when the incompetent Washington was CLEARLY losing? Or Russia sailing a fleet into New York Harbor in 1863 and declaring that any country interfering in the American Civil War would immediately be at war with Russia? Humanity's best guide to the future is the Past, History. We judge individuals that way and we can judge Ruling Classes that way, and the American Ruling Class considers 'honesty' to be the greatest weakness of all.

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