Russian forces thwart attempted cross-border assault from Ukraine, official says

Probably maskirovka. Ukraine deserves to be successful in all of its attempts to deal with the heinous assault being conducted against it.

Taiwan

It’s all over for Zelensky and his mates know it. He sacks anyone who dare tell him the truth. Sadly he Is now totally deluded and making things worse for his country

If Ukraine can invite NATO Forces, Russia is also free to do the same. I am not taking sides.

Yes, I would like to see Russia invite NATO forces.

Perhaps they could not receive enough weapons from the CIA mercenaries, or more likely Russian troops were too strong. Try again

The Russians can therefore invite any military they want to conduct policing and counter terrorism operations on that soil.

In that case, South Korea can now start supplying weapons- infinitely better than rubbish NK ones - to help Ukraine. These were the words of the SK President, and hopefully it happens.

More missiles, tanks, ammunition and artillery from freedom-loving nations everywhere to continue to bog Fascist Russia down and liquidate yet more Russian suckers are what is needed.

It’s all over for Zelensky 

You said exactly the same thing almost THREE YEARS ago. Change the record.

So now the North Koreans are involved!? very interesting to see how this unfolds!!

I thought we were commenting the fact that Ukrainian backed by American secret agents were getting theirs ass kicked in the Bryansk region. Now they are winning? Interesting interpretation

BanthuToday 07:07 am JST

North Korean units were detected Wednesday in Kursk,

Kursk is sovereign Russian territory, and recognized as such by the UN and every single country on earth.

Even Ukraine and all 32 NATO countries recognize Kursk as Russia.

The Russians can therefore invite any military they want to conduct policing and counter terrorism operations on that soil.

So I suppose foreigners fighting in Donbas, recognized as Ukraine by every single country minus one is also there legally?

Perhaps we should start to recognize the fact that Russians are the largest ethnic group in the Donbas region and there was a terrible conflict in those territories since April 2014, way before February 2022

Fos

Perhaps we should start to recognize the fact that Russians are the largest ethnic group in the Donbas region and there was a terrible conflict in those territories since April 2014, way before February 2022

Russians went into the Donbas to sow discord and start the civil war in 2014. The civil war was a terrible conflict, but it was mostly over in a couple of years. There was little fighting in the Donbas before the Russians invaded in 2022.

FosToday 09:50 am JST

Perhaps we should start to recognize the fact that Russians are the largest ethnic group in the Donbas region and there was a terrible conflict in those territories since April 2014, way before February 2022

Yes, russia first invaded in 2014.

Ah ok…. here we are with another Instagram history class recap. 

Osce, the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, not Russia or China, is saying something different. The war began in April 2014 and about 14,000 people were killed, mostly civilians. 

https://www.osce.org/magazine/259866

Impossible. Russia has totally expended all of its missiles and human resources in this conflict. There must be a mistake in the reporting.

Fos

Ah ok…. here we are with another Instagram history class recap. 

Osce, the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, not Russia or China, is saying something different. The war began in April 2014 and about 14,000 people were killed, mostly civilians. 

https://www.osce.org/magazine/259866

14,400 killed in the Donbas war before 2022, of that 24% (3,404) were civilians. So, not mostly civilians.

Almost all of those were in the first 2 years of the war.

Chabbawanga

There must be a mistake in the reporting.

It is an American news agency. The same US led media which was forecasting the collapse of Russian economy in 3 months since the conflict started, and the utility of sanctions (stop the sale of cheap natural gas from Moscow to Europe, get the US LNG on track from the other side of the Atlantic, in Texas, and three times the price). It is puzzling things did not go according to Washington plans.

Fos

There must be a mistake in the reporting.

It is an American news agency. The same US led media which was forecasting the collapse of Russian economy in 3 months since the conflict started,

Do you have a link?

Underworld

Correct, over 14.000 killed in those 10 years, before the conflict started in February 2022. You can find many appeals of European leaders, asking for a stop to the atrocities in the Donbas regions, and request of peace treaties, but certainly the NATO chief did not listen

Fos

Correct, over 14.000 killed in those 10 years, before the conflict started in February 2022. You can find many appeals of European leaders, asking for a stop to the atrocities in the Donbas regions, and request of peace treaties, but certainly the NATO chief did not listen

Well, because Russia was fighting a proxy war in the region.

If Russia weren't involved, there would be no war. Russia weren't interested in peace.

Underworld

Do you have a link?

Type the name of those past geniuses, such as Boris Johnson, Mario Draghi, Ursula Von Der Leyen, predicting Russia collapse sanctions Ukraine. You will find thousands of articles online.

And then type Goldman Sachs, Blackrock, Zelensky to have a bigger picture:

https://www.ft.com/content/3d6041fb-5747-4564-9874-691742aa52a2

https://nypost.com/2023/02/25/wall-street-has-its-eye-on-investing-in-ukraine/

I would not use the world "proxy", it is ill-defined.

History links between Russia and Ukraine are far deeper, meaningful, and wider than the economic interests of Washington could ever be.

During those ten years of war, when nobody seemed to care, there were continuous calls from Moscow to find a solution, and nothing was done. That is what the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe always stated.

Fos

Do you have a link?

Type the name of those past geniuses, such as Boris Johnson, Mario Draghi, Ursula Von Der Leyen, predicting Russia collapse sanctions Ukraine. You will find thousands of articles online.

And then type Goldman Sachs, Blackrock, Zelensky to have a bigger picture:

https://www.ft.com/content/3d6041fb-5747-4564-9874-691742aa52a2

https://nypost.com/2023/02/25/wall-street-has-its-eye-on-investing-in-ukraine/

So, that would be "no", then.

Fos

I would not use the world "proxy", it is ill-defined.

It's quite well defined:

proxy war, a military conflict in which one or more third parties directly or indirectly support one or more state or nonstate combatants in an effort to influence the conflict's outcome and thereby to advance their own strategic interests or to undermine those of their opponents.

History links between Russia and Ukraine are far deeper, meaningful, and wider than the economic interests of Washington could ever be.

Whatever, Russia started the civil war in the Donbas and kept it going.

During those ten years of war, when nobody seemed to care, there were continuous calls from Moscow to find a solution,

They were the problem. If Russia pulled it's forces the civil war would be over.

and nothing was done.

Least by Russia.

I have sent a bunch of links, so that would be "Yes", I've provided more than a link :)

Proxy war is what the majority of observers on international level say actually apply to the other side. But you twist it on your favor, to preserve what we have been saying are the main reasons of this conflict.

And here is another reason of the conflict in a nutshell, as duly admitted by the BBC. But be quick to watch it, before Washington will ask London to remove it, not to confuse people too much :)

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c9vn8z2wwy9o