Putin says Russia is ready to discuss security measures with U.S., NATO

Lord Putin kwnows how to do it..

Putin said he doesn’t want war and would rely on negotiations as he presses his demand for the West to halt Ukraine’s bid to join NATO.

Suppose Texas seceded from the U.S. and allowed a Russian missile contingent to deploy there, would the U.S. stand idly by? Isn't the Ukraine problem the same as this?

his whole media spectacle

Once more the pro-authoritarian/anti-democracy herds attack one of their imaginary demons, in this case the free press, a demon they call 'media'.

How do Russian media outlets, assuming there are some beyond those controlled by Putin and his oligarchs, report on the hundreds of thousands of Russian troops massed at the border of a sovereign state like Ukraine and the who knows how many hundreds of thousands of NATO troops on the other side.

Do the respective troops involved, locked and loaded and freezing their butts off as they are far away from their homes and families, think this is just a media spectacle?

Or is it just a 'media spectacle' to keyboard warriors sitting in the comfort of their own homes pushing an agenda, and fanning flames on social media.

I hope it is nothing more than a media spectacle and no shots are fired by either side. And beyond that nations everywhere reduce their reliance on fossil fuels so that media spectacles built on war, and real wars for fossil fuels stop.

Putin and the globe's other fossil fuel barons have far too much power. The question needs to be answered, was Putin really threatening a world war to maintain his personal wealth and control over gas and its shipments?

Another question needs to be asked, what do Ukrainian people really want? Do they really want to be under the Russian Federation, back in the USSR again? the same question applies to all those people living in former SSRs.

Putin and the globe's other fossil fuel barons have far too much power. The question needs to be answered, was Putin really threatening a world war to maintain his personal wealth and control over gas and its shipments?

…as well as his territory and sphere of influence.

https://www.baltictimes.com/why_is_putin_so_afraid_of_ukraine_s_accession_tonato/

Another question needs to be asked, what do Ukrainian people really want? Do they really want to be under the Russian Federation, back in the USSR again? the same question applies to all those people living in former SSRs.

They have their own problem with freedom and democracy.

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday he welcomed a security dialogue with the West as his military reported pulling back some of its troops near Ukraine — signals that may indicate the Kremlin has opted for a diplomatic path for now despite Western fears of an imminent Russian invasion of its neighbor.

Putin out Americas America in many respects. He took many of the lessons from the collapse of the Soviet Union and US Middle Eastern interventions to heart.

Crony capitalist oligarchy, vanishing social safety nets, crumbling infrastructure and aggressive fossil fueled foreign policy.

Lil' Vlad appears to be backing down and withdrawing troops. He realized the EU gas deal was off if anything kicked off, and would sink Russia's crumbling economy even further.

This whole media spectacle is about something called NordStream 2, a pipeline linking Russia and Germany.

The US is desperate to scuttle the project anyway it can, but has failed.

Germany stated again loud and clear yesterday that there was no gas deal if any war kicked off. Keep up.

So Puty has a temper tantrum and America has to put him to bed to stop the pouting? This is regrettable and unfortunate as well as disgusting and horrible.

Dealing with Pres. Biden isn’t the cakewalk it was under Trump, is it?

what did Biden do? nothing.

just run around the world with a crazed insistence that Russia was going to invade when they never were. So that now he can claim only due to him it didnt happen. No one buying that.

The Russian war mongers are sorely displeased by Russian outmaneuvering…

This is what it was about all along!!! US warmongering just showed how insecure and paranoid Americans are!!! Russia has a right to hold maneuvers anywhere in their feretory they wish and don't need to explain anything to anyone. Unlike the US that is using kill drones outside conflict areas!

America always comes to the defense of our friends. Thank you Biden for your service and standing up to the Russian childish Puty.

This is what it was about all along!!! US warmongering just showed how insecure and paranoid Americans are!!!

Not the Americans, the powerful ruling establishment are.

Russia has a right to hold maneuvers anywhere in their feretory they wish and don't need to explain anything to anyone. Unlike the US that is using kill drones outside conflict areas!

To kill terrorists, hope so. Russia uses poison when dealing with their enemies.

Putin started this whole invasion narrative to distract from his failing economy and unrest at home...it's a typical Putin deflection trick....

The problem is, the West and Biden knew that was his rationale - so they clearly told him if he does invade, there would be punishing economic sanctions that would destroy the Russian economy, and on him and his oligarch friends, that would bring further instability and unrest. So he is backing down...

This is a hard pill for our Putin-supporting US far-rightists to take...they have sided with him over their own country - showing their true colors when it comes to their so-called "patriotism"....

Biden led the Western response, coordinated closely with our European allies, met and beat Putin at his information warfare game, and balanced diplomacy with military deterrence. It's a clear foreign policy win for him.

Expect much crying and pouting by Kremlin favorite Tucker "Comrade" Carlson on his show tonight...

It is perfect common sense to question Russian President Vladimir Putin motives and intentions moving a military force of such magnitude to the boarders of Ukraine, a sovereign independent nation that Putin views as the property of Russia.  

Of course, play-book Putin withdraws an infinitesimal number of tanks etc, to then demand NATO and its allies negotiate on Putin’s terms whilst Ukraine is still staring down the barrel of Putin’s gun.

Russian President Vladimir Putin, the peace-maker. Not by the hair on my chinny chin chin.

Europe is not willing to freeze in the middle of winter just for USA's benefit.

Russian concerns about NATO are valid, and what happens in Ukraine so far is serving as a deadlock to NATOs advances toward Russia.

If NATO gets closer to Russia, it's military and political influence, can threaten the stability of the Russian federation, and the region as a whole. Just imagine what would happen if the US and Ukraine start doing joint military exercises every year near the Russian border.

When dealing with armed people who have fallen down a rabbit hole of their own creation, you offer to talk, and talk, and talk, and hope they climb back out, which is what Putin is doing.

Sometimes they talk themselves back out of the rabbit hole.

Sometimes they talk themselves out of acting on their delusional beliefs for a while.

Sometimes they talk themselves into breaking up into different factions that become more focused on each other than on you.

And if none of that happens, it hasn't really cost you anything, and many times you've actually gained, because everyone else has gotten fed up with the disruption the folks in the rabbit hole have been causing, and no longer see it as a problem just for you, but for everyone, and will be more than willing to get behind your response.

And the Russian response if the talks don't result in changes to the Imperium's position is likely to be recognizing the right to self determination of the population of Eastern Ukraine by recognizing them as separate states from Ukraine at which point the Ukrainian regime's efforts to use military weapons on the population to force them into submission stops being a 'civil war' and becomes an act of war.

war fear made up for stock options and commodities speculators. period!

Putin said he doesn’t want war, end of the story.

Biden didn’t deter anything. It was never going to happen in the first place.

It appears Comrade Carlson has gone full-Putin...

On his Monday show, Carlson claimed Democrats in the US were wrongly framing the Russia-Ukraine military crisis as good-versus-evil story because, he claimed, Ukraine was not a democracy.

Carlson has previously sought to directly compare Russia to Ukraine despite their different political systems — Russia is an authoritarian regime while Ukraine is considered a democracy.

"It's run by a dictator who's friends with everyone in Washington," Carlson said of Ukraine, before attacking GOP Reps. Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney for defending Kyiv. (Kinzinger and Cheney are not the only Republicans who have expressed support for Ukraine, but many conservatives have singled out the duo for taking part in the House committee investigating the Capitol riot.)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tucker-carlson-claims-ukraines-democratically-122630848.html

The far-right adoration and manipulation by Putin continues...and likely will only grow stronger...

How do Russian media outlets, assuming there are some beyond those controlled by Putin and his oligarchs, report on the hundreds of thousands of Russian troops massed at the border of a sovereign state like Ukraine 

LOL

Massed at the border eh? Did the wonderful media tell you that with satellite pics and all?

Most of the troops are hundreds of miles away from the border. So who has imaginary demons?

US/UK intelligence agencies have so much mud on their faces now.

Indeed. Russians rubbed it all over their faces, again. Some intelligence..

Russia has every rights to get back their lost lands, not just Ukraine, the three Baltic states, Georgia and Moldova these former Soviet lands beyond Russia's control were stolen by NATO and that's the subject of security matters!

Russia has been attack and lands stolen by NATO and she is fighting to get back the lands....

Can anyone call Russia is a thug because she fought back to get the things stolen by thieves(NATO)?

Looks to me like Biden faced down the bully.

NATO has been in decline stretching back for a least a generation.

Certainly poses no threat to Russia.

Confidence in NATO sharply declined in France, Germany, US, says study

https://www.euractiv.com/section/defence-and-security/news/confidence-in-nato-sharply-declined-in-france-germany-us-says-study/

NATO role in European defence strategy is symbolic.

Europe is wholly in the grip of Russian energy dependence.

The failure for Germany to commit to 2% of GDP defence spending is the case at hand.

President Putin was now prise the alliance apart.

Nord Stream 2 is a case in question.

Massed at the border eh? Did the wonderful media tell you that with satellite pics and all?

Please post links to what we should be reading to get a true picture of what’s going on.

Thanks in advance.

This entire crisis was manufactured by Biden and the democrats, likely just to spite Trump. They are the ones who refused to even consider negotiations and readying up for full scale warfare.

In addition, the liberal woke mob goes around attacking anyone who does not support full scale war with Russia and trying to cancel them. Funny how their stances change when it is their dear leader who is bringing them to a full scale total war with a nuclear power.

Of course there was never going to be war, as I have been saying many times. Many Colonial/Imperial power people do not understand that Rossia and the Ukraine have always been one country, one people. And they are very patient peoples. And they will united again someday soon

Much of the Ukraine including and maybe especially the Crimean Peninsula and well up the Don River were part of the Ottoman Empire until the very late 1700s. The Ottoman Empire extended to the southern boundary of Poland. There remains a notable presence of Muslim Tartars in southern Ukraine, refugees who fled their ancient homes in Crimea after the Russians invaded in 2014. This is part of the reason the Turks are so interested in defending Ukraine against the Russians. In fact almost the entire Black Sea and Sea of Azov were part of the Ottoman Empire. Only Circassia was not under Ottoman control.

Trump has always supported Putin

What's wrong with that? What is wrong with trying to have a mutual and cordial relationship with our nuclear counterpart?

What's wrong? Everything. Every possible thing. They are an implacable enemy that can never be trusted. Ever, for any reason. Their barbaric government is anti-ethical to everything the US stands for. There is no reason in the world to be even a little bit friendly to them. As far as I'm concerned the US should embargo trade and travel with Russia and make it illegal to use the US Dollar and any aspect of the US banking system to conduct business with Russia. Anyone who likes or trusts the Russians is either up to no good or almost criminally naive.

Time for the yanks to wind their neck in. No-one is having a war with anyone. Now hopefully they can focus on their own economic issues before concerning themselves with everyone elses.

--Why is Ukraine not a democracy?

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/tug-war-ukraines-information-space-media-bans-versus-freedom-speech

That's not anything near to being a Democratic nation.

Nothing in the article you linked to suggests that Ukraine is far from being a democratic (small d) country. The article is about the banning of pro-Russian TV channels that spread disinformation. That may be a controversial move, but it in no way implies that Ukraine is not a democracy.

Let me point out to you that the news media in Ukraine have far more freedom than they do in Russia, where reporters are routinely locked up or killed.

America is right to support Ukraine. And Trump was wrong to endorse Putin's thuggery.

 the liberal woke mob goes around attacking anyone who does not support full scale war with Russia 

Did someone say full-scale war, comrade? And is there something "woke" about protecting an ally from Russian aggression?

Biden already stated no American troops will be fighting Russian one even if Russia invades Ukraine.

So then what is he being praised for actually doing?

@blacklabel

US intel out maneuvered Russia on this one, calling out all their next steps in advance. Biden sent Russia a firm message and now Putin is backing down.

Bravo to Biden, US intel and allies around the world that sent Putin a unified message. Trump was scared of Russia, good thing he was removed before this whole thing went down.

Biden already stated no American troops will be fighting Russian one even if Russia invades Ukraine.

So why are we there then? What's the reason and why won't Biden tell the nation in detail? What's in it for us?

Did someone say full-scale war, comrade? And is there something "woke" about protecting an ally from Russian aggression?

How are they an ally? In what way and what have they done for us to send our depleted military over.

America is right to support Ukraine.

Why?

And Trump was wrong to endorse Putin's thuggery.

He didn't

Nibek32

US intel out maneuvered Russia on this one, calling out all their next steps in advance. Biden sent Russia a firm message and now Putin is backing down.

Bidens handlers manufactured a crisis, and alas it wont be the last time. The military-industrial complex needs eternal wars.

Bravo to Biden, US intel and allies around the world that sent Putin a unified message. Trump was scared of Russia, good thing he was removed before this whole thing went down.

In what universe? Trump caved to the anti-Russian faction, with his military support to the Ukraine regime and opposition to NordStream2. What Trump did not do was edging to WW3 by trying to put missiles in border countries. You might want to look beyond party-political talking points.

As far as I'm concerned the US should embargo trade and travel with Russia and make it illegal to use the US Dollar and any aspect of the US banking system to conduct business with Russia

You will then need to buy Russian rubles to pay them for oil, for example. Because the US will still need to buy that. No need to be so bitter, though.

How are they an ally? In what way and what have they done for us

I'm not going to answer that for you because you could ask the same question about plenty of other U.S. allies.

to send our depleted military over.

I thought the previous guy built it up to epic levels of robustness. Surely Biden didn't deplete that buildup in just one year.

I'm not going to answer that

Because most on the left sadly can't. 

I thought the previous guy built it up to epic levels of robustness.

He tried, but Pelosi blocked it.

Surely Biden didn't deplete that buildup in just one year.

It never really started, thanks Nance!

The time is getting closer Putin should go. Russia must change and has to become truly a part of Europe. Changes of Russia got behind by Putin.

Biden already stated no American troops will be fighting Russian one even if Russia invades Ukraine.

Biden says a lot of things if you let him.

America is a NATO member and the majority of the NATO countries are in Europe.

So why won’t Germany do more, they’re closer to Ukraine. They’re a formidable power.

Did someone say full-scale war, comrade? And is there something "woke" about protecting an ally from Russian aggression?

Ok, I don’t care about the rant, what’s in it for us? How will that help with our growing problems in the US?

Trump spent on the military and that was increased by Biden

It wasn’t.

America is right to support Ukraine.

Why?

Because any disruptions in the European Markets will also hit American business.

Not even close to the way it would hit European markets? So again, how is helping Ukraine beneficial or us?

yes he did including the killing of his opposition.

No, he did not.

@WilliB

I’m an independent voter, sorry to ruin your narrative.

Your language though and distortion of reality makes it clear where you get your news though. Stay off Faux News!