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Russia has lost about 200,000 troops already. Staggering losses. At that fatality rate, which will increase this Spring when facing even bigger weapons , there won’t be much of an equipped Russian army left for Ukraine, let alone NATO to fight. So long as China doesn’t jump in, of course.

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Russia has lost about 200,000 troops already.

If fascist Russia wish to continue their war of land and resource stealing, they can expect another 200 000 casualties. At some point, the Russian people are going to realize this war is not worth the cost.

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Furthermore, the Russian leadership may be indifferent to military losses, but the general population will not fight. This is 2023, not the last century. Russians want to holiday in Thailand, they don’t want to fight the west. Russia is now calling our bluff, is what I think. They are cornered and they have lost. Sure, they can send in another half million to the grave, the prisoners, mercenaries, the unfortunate, but after that, they will need to negotiate. The people will not fight. A general mobilization won’t work. They will revolt or surrender on the front line, rather than let Putin send them to their pointless deaths.

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More shelling, more terrorizing, more killing of innocent civilians.

Russian's under the command of their great dictator PUTAin are so good at that!

But Bakhmut still holds, causing Russians to face casualties, MIA and wounded ones counting in the hundreds and thousands. All this to pacify the wannabe Czar in the cremlin and to gain some acres of land.

But .....

Ukraine prevails!

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Why are there still civilians in Bakmut?

Why are Russians targeting civilians?

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@bronc0 Why are there still civilians in Bakmut?

Maybe because they are from there, and that's where their homes are. The real question is why are Russians there and why are the invading foreigners killing civilians?

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Stay strong, defenders of Ukraine!

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If they had been forced to evacuate, you would have been the first to complain about it.

Why are there still civilians in Bakmut?

> Zelensky knew that it was about to turn into a massive war zone.

Very irresponsible to have not evacuated them, or was keeping them there intentional for propaganda purposes.

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Why are there still civilians in Bakmut?

Why are Russians targeting civilians?

Unthinkable thing: the civilians are waiting for Russians. Russians don't targeting civilians, they evacuate them to the liberated territory. There are some videos on telegram.

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Time for a ceasefire and end this beastly killing and destruction.

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Russians don't targeting civilians

Funny man! Lots of mass graves say otherwise.

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In today’s episode of “Oh now you’ve done it! The Russians are mad now! THIS time islets SERIOUS!…

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Time for a ceasefire and end this beastly killing and destruction.

Unfortunately it's impossible at the moment. Zelensky does not want to admit defeat. The Americans are forcing him to take the Crimea. Russia is slowly moving forward and will not stop.

-15 ( +9 / -24 )

Time for a ceasefire and end this beastly killing and destruction.

Putin could end it anytime with just a word.

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Unthinkable thing: the civilians are waiting for Russians. Russians don't targeting civilians, they evacuate them to the liberated territory. There are some videos on telegram.

Why did they target the civilians that were waiting for their "liberation"? And yes, they do target civilians.

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Kuku,

so it wasn't sarcasm?

"Zelensky does not want to admit defeat."

"Russia is slowly moving forward and will not stop."

No defeat yet - and it will never happen! Ukraine stands strong!

Russians moving forward in the wrong direction!

And they will be stopped!

Ukraine prevails!

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Zelensky does not want to admit defeat.

That's because the Ukrainians are not defeated and they will not be. Russian invaders need to go home already don't become fertilizer for Ukrainian sunflowers. Ukraine has all the fertilizer she needs already.

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Sad but seems Ukraine strategy is failing. Bakhmut appears to have been a disaster for them.

I think that Russian losses are being grossly exaggerated by our media. They have been using artillery and similar to achieve their objectives. Sure they are losing troops, but poor Ukraine losing more and have less manpower reserves to draw on.

we were told Bakhmut was going to be a bloody nose for Russia. That does not appear to be the case.

Shades of Afghanistan just before the collapse there?

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No, you are just pushing the surrender it's impossible narrative.

i live in the real world of reality, nit knew of seeing it in black and white. Nothing is as simple to understand as it’s made out by the media and the politicians.

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Hard to watch these photo's and NOT to think about the man behind it all.

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I would recommend that someone stops both idiots immediately. They force the whole globe into war, inflation, disrupted delivery chains, delayed and postponed answers to more important problem catalogs and of course only send their own people into coffins. Having more sympathy for the attacked than the attackers that’s surely common sense, but taking a side or supporting one of those crazy leaders? Beware. I have an own stomach to fill, and not working or suffering for their insignificant and private territorial disputes thousands of miles away.

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EU officially admonished the Ukrainian President numerous times for anti-democratic behavior towards ethnic Russian Ukrainian citizens prior to Russia's invasion. Most in orld understand this fact, especially those in China, India, etc. and helps explain in part why Russia has significant global support.

Here's one such article you can find on the subject but many such articles/reporting on this subject over years all prior to the Feb 2022 invasion':

Volodymyr Zelenskyy has unplugged three television networks he accuses of spreading Kremlin-funded ‘propaganda’, a development the EU has reprimanded.

Millions in Ukraine’s east and south are Russian speakers – without necessarily being pro-Kremlin – and their votes propelled Zelenskyy to the country's presidency against all political odds

By Mansur Mirovalev

Published On 5 Feb 2021

Al Jazeera

Please people take a look and educate yourselves, takes 'two to tango' etc. If you believe otherwise, you're hopelessly naive. Solutions to achieve peace requires factual reality and not mindless media mind control and brainwashing/propaganda.

Russians clearly have 'beef', never bothered Finland or Norway in recent memory, something's clearly going on...., no Putin mouthpiece or puppet, that's FOR SURE, rather 'path to peace' must be anchored in factual reality, hopefully sooner rather than later!

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are UA forces winning today too?

as everyday?

just wanted be sure if tactical retreat is meaning for victory,thank you for updates dear experts.

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Time for a ceasefire and end this beastly killing and destruction.

Drop your kit, go home, leave Ukraine including Donbas and Crimea, and the killing will stop immediately.

Of course, some of "your lot" are going to have to answer for war crimes, but we can get to that later. We are not going to forget.

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Wakarimasen

Sad but seems Ukraine strategy is failing. Bakhmut appears to have been a disaster for them.

It's been a disaster for Russia. It's a single city and they have been fighting for it for 8 months and still haven't taken it. It has been a meat grinder for the Russians. Ukraine are making them pay a high price for the city.

I think that Russian losses are being grossly exaggerated by our media.

Which media is that? I'm pretty sure the media doesn't exaggerate anything, they generally report on what entities like US intelligence or British intelligence thinks. Obviously Ukrainian or Russian sources are to be taken with a grain of salt.

They have been using artillery and similar to achieve their objectives.

These days the Russians are using 25% less artillery than a year ago because they are running out of shells.

Sure they are losing troops, but poor Ukraine losing more and have less manpower reserves to draw on.

Source please for Ukraine losing more men than Russia.

we were told Bakhmut was going to be a bloody nose for Russia.

Who said that? Sources please.

Shades of Afghanistan just before the collapse there?

Maybe so. Russia's invasion could well collapse.

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Collateral damage or civilians?

Sheer utter madness to push Ukraine into attacking Crimea but I guess it is easy to send other people's kids to dies if you live in Washington or view a war like a football game and wear a cheerleader's uniform.

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We tried appeasement already in the late 1930s. It didn't work then and it won't work now.

Yes, you undertook two security agreements Minsk 1 and Minsk 2 and openly watched Ukraine defy both. You also have confirmed that Ukraine had no intentions of adhering to Minsk 1 or Minsk 2.

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There are some videos on telegram.

This is somehow a less believable source than saying “just trust me, bro”.

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@ReynardFox I have a serious question for you? Do you think any of the information provided in the story above, given the sources is believable? Honest answer please.

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Why would the Russians target civilians when they are occupying Russian speaking territory? Until after WWII, that whole eastern Ukraine was part of Russia and Ukraine was targeting civilians. There were 14,000 Russian civilians killed by Zelansky and thus leading to Russia invading. No one is even talking about the non-compliance of the Minsk Agreement by Ukraine.

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Sven AsaiToday  08:54 am JST

I would recommend that someone stops both idiots immediately. 

To do that they need to Stop the US which is the main background protagonist in this war! Peace talks have been stopped because of the US pressure on Ukraine not Russia

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Ukraine betrayed Russia, they are looking for their membership in European Union by joining NATO, help America attack Russia is a ticket to get rich. Zelensky knew this and he knew Ukraine will be used as a bulwark which will possesses an imminent deadly threat to Russia. It is all about money. Traitors!

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Yeah once the losing starts, out come the narrative supporting, selective pictures from the media to try to extend the conflict and take some type of moral position.

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This is somehow a less believable source than saying “just trust me, bro”.

It's your right and choice. But what to do? such videos never appear in your media. U don't want to know more than your tutorials and info garbage offer. Chez vous any alternative sources are blocked. It's your notorious freedom of speech. Read JT and u will always in the right stream:))))) As for me besides JT I read telegram.

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proxy

Sheer utter madness to push Ukraine into attacking Crimea 

True. Luckily nobody is doing this.

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At least you are honest. This is likely what's going on in Putin's head, not the other nonsense they are pushing about protecting Russian speaking people (while destroying their homes and forcefully mobilizing them to fight their own countrymen).

Ukraine betrayed Russia, they are looking for their membership in European Union by joining NATO, help America attack Russia is a ticket to get rich. Zelensky knew this and he knew Ukraine will be used as a bulwark which will possesses an imminent deadly threat to Russia. It is all about money. Traitors!

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Dave g

There were 14,000 Russian civilians killed by Zelansky and thus leading to Russia invading.

That's an incorrect number, but assuming it is correct, when did these killings start?

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Until after WWII, that whole eastern Ukraine was part of Russia 

The operative words in this sentence being "Until after" and "was".

These areas in the year 2023 are Ukraine and will be re-united with the country that owns them.

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These areas in the year 2023 are Ukraine and will be re-united with the country that owns them.

How will this happen?

negotiation?

5 more years of military conflict and death all paid for by the USA?

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If this makes it to the news, how difficult is it for a similar incident committed by the Ukrainians to make it to the headlines?

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hese areas in the year 2023 are Ukraine and will be re-united with the country that owns them.

How will this happen?

negotiation?

5 more years of military conflict and death all paid for by the USA?

The Russians can quit or they can lose. But they ARE leaving.

And the US is not paying for all of this anymore than you actually care about taxpayer dollars begin wasted. That is just a deflection to carry water for a murderous dictator.

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The Russians can quit or they can lose. But they ARE leaving.

Thank you for the detailed analysis of how this is going to happen /s

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Who says it's either/or? Surely both and much more!

At least you are honest. This is likely what's going on in Putin's head, not the other nonsense they are pushing about protecting Russian speaking people (while destroying their homes and forcefully mobilizing them to fight their own countrymen).

Ukraine betrayed Russia, they are looking for their membership in European Union by joining NATO, help America attack Russia is a ticket to get rich. Zelensky knew this and he knew Ukraine will be used as a bulwark which will possesses an imminent deadly threat to Russia. It is all about money. Traitors!

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According to CNN it will take at least 2 years for Ukraine to regain the land they lost in the beginning of the invasion (assuming that they didnt lose more land, like they are now).

Then they would need to "invade" Crimea and other areas that Obama gave to Russia in 2014 that have larger pro Russian populations.

While at the same time, the next President of the USA in less than 2 years (whoever that is) wont be a sympathetic mentally addled guy whose family who had business ties to Ukraine. They will end up with someone more neutral at best and might even get an angry orange man Part 2 instead.

Its not looking promising in any of these areas, so negotiation time is around the corner.

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Below's why Russia will not easily QUIT/GIVE-UP, so a negotiated 'settlement' the only viable peaceful path:

Putin's" Special Operation mindset/logic, includes:

1) NIBY - "not in our backyard" rather Ukraine's

2) Not at war with Ukrainians, rather their 'masters'

3) All this old military equipment's got to go anyway

4) Great 'prisoner' reform strategy

5) Saving Ukraine's ethnic Russians from genocide

6) We've got a resource based 'fortress' economy

7) Inflation's THEIR problem, we export food & resources

8) Sanction's a joke, as everything's still 'for sale'

9) Our Central banks not printing ANY money like them

10) Our Debt levels are tiny compared to theirs

11) We have no crazy financial leverage, inflated markets

12) Great for commodities markets pricing, strong $

13) Unifying our people, their sense of duty, country

14) Lots of new Russian passports/citizens every day

15) Ukraine's economy on life support

16) Ukraine's infrastructure being destroyed

17) Ukraine's citizens are leaving Ukraine every day

18) Many Ukrainians moving to Russia

19) Europe's got HIGH inflation, no energy security

20) Europe will need more energy sooner or later

21) US big economic beneficiary AT Europe's expense

22) Voters in US and Europe will tire of endless war

23) Ukraine's military not sufficiently experienced

24) Ukraine's got a BIG military recruitment problem

25) Ukraine military cannot conduct offensive operations

26) Can always use EMP weapons and win ANYTIME

27) Most of world HATES NATO and US endless wars

28) Political realignments in west will benefit us overall

29) We're deepening our strategic partnerships

30) Can pursue asymmetrical attacks anywhere anytime

Putin's bottom line, TIME's OUR FRIEND!!

'Know thy enemy', principle of war/see above for starters. What's Ukraine winning? Settlement's the only path folks, everyone knows it, let's not let perfection be the enemy of progress!

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Blacklabel

According to CNN it will take at least 2 years for Ukraine to regain the land they lost in the beginning of the invasion (assuming that they didnt lose more land, like they are now).

That's a bit lazy. I'm pretty sure CNN doesn't have an opinion on how long it will take. I'm pretty sure it was a guest on CNN with an opinion.

Then they would need to "invade" Crimea and other areas that Obama gave to Russia in 2014 that have larger pro Russian populations.

Obama didn't give Crimea to Russia.

While at the same time, the next President of the USA in less than 2 years (whoever that is) wont be a sympathetic mentally addled guy whose family who had business ties to Ukraine. They will end up with someone more neutral at best and might even get an angry orange man Part 2 instead.

Leadership likely won't change, which is good because Biden is killing it.

Its not looking promising in any of these areas, so negotiation time is around the corner.

Unlikely because Putin wants regime change. And after Bucha, who can trust the Russians.

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While at the same time, the next President of the USA in less than 2 years (whoever that is) wont be a sympathetic mentally addled guy whose family who had business ties to Ukraine. They will end up with someone more neutral at best and might even get an angry orange man Part 2 instead.

Whole lotta speculatin’ going on. The last sentence is pure fantasy.

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They used to pit a chicken against a chicken and let them have a go at each other. They will fight until one is pecked to death. This has been outlawed.

Dogs have been used as well. Luckily, the fight is stopped but not before the weaker one is almost completely mauled. This is also outlawed.

So now we have Russia and Ukraine, but they are not allowed to stop and must keep going. No negotiations. We can’t do this with animals, but it’s okay with humans.

So let’s just wait until one side or the other fight til death while we cheer on their “incredible and amazing” fight to stay alive.

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One can be in a cross walk, have all the 'rights' and still end up being PREDICTABELY dead right....

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Blah, blah, blah ! warmongers will be warmongers....both sides are as bad as each other.

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japancat

Blah, blah, blah ! warmongers will be warmongers....both sides are as bad as each other.

Really? So Russia executes a bloody imperialistic invasion of Ukraine, but Ukraine is just as bad as Russia.

That's victim blaming.

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So now we have Russia and Ukraine, but they are not allowed to stop and must keep going. No negotiations. We can’t do this with animals, but it’s okay with humans.

So let’s just wait until one side or the other fight til death while we cheer on their “incredible and amazing” fight to stay alive.

Sadly but true, Ukraine's junior member of NATO, outsourcing at its finest for globalists angry at Putin,,,

After all Putin's entire Presidency's been based upon the KGB strongman protecting the Motherland from all the outside foreign cockroaches intent to exploit in the wake of the wreckage of the Soviet Union's collapse, this is just a new chapter in the same story!

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quercetum

They used to pit a chicken against a chicken and let them have a go at each other. They will fight until one is pecked to death. This has been outlawed.

Dogs have been used as well. Luckily, the fight is stopped but not before the weaker one is almost completely mauled. This is also outlawed.

So now we have Russia and Ukraine, but they are not allowed to stop and must keep going. No negotiations. We can’t do this with animals, but it’s okay with humans.

So let’s just wait until one side or the other fight til death while we cheer on their “incredible and amazing” fight to stay alive.

That analogy is struggling to stay alive.

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so many comments but I am still unsure if UA forces are winning or not.

somebody.anybody?

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Putin's" Special Operation mindset/logic, includes:

1) NIBY - "not in our backyard" rather Ukraine's

2) Not at war with Ukrainians, rather their 'masters'

Blah blah blah of unmitigated crap.

Putin's bottom line, TIME's OUR FRIEND!!

Actually not so much.

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Eastman

so many comments but I am still unsure if UA forces are winning or not.

somebody.anybody?

Yes.

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Clay

After all Putin's entire Presidency's been based upon the KGB strongman protecting the Motherland from all the outside foreign cockroaches intent to exploit in the wake of the wreckage of the Soviet Union's collapse, this is just a new chapter in the same story!

That's the image that Putin portrays to his people. The truth is that he is the biggest kleptocrat history has ever know. He has plundered his country and every Russian is worse of for it.

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That analogy is struggling to stay alive.

The question is alive for what? Ukraine's at this rate going to be failed state with no population remaining, just utter wreckage and the Bear ain't going anywhere

Maybe that's the real idea or grand plan; all these other countries in Europe and Russia have terrible demographics, though not yet as bad as Japan but they're working on it with every bomb/bullet/missile!

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Clay

That analogy is struggling to stay alive.

The question is alive for what? Ukraine's at this rate going to be failed state with no population remaining, just utter wreckage and the Bear ain't going anywhere

I don't see how you come to this conclusion. I see Ukraine coming out of this stronger than ever. It will become a major power in the region.

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That's the image that Putin portrays to his people. The truth is that he is the biggest kleptocrat history has ever know. He has plundered his country and every Russian is worse of for it.

Only problems with above statement, first, his popularity rating is VERY high, 83% at last check. Second, his been around a LONG time, very unusual for politico's to STAY popular for DECADES. Third, we all know every politico's got their hand in some cookie jar, that's par for the course!

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Really? So Russia executes a bloody imperialistic invasion of Ukraine, but Ukraine is just as bad as Russia.

Yes.

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I don't see how you come to this conclusion. I see Ukraine coming out of this stronger than ever. It will become a major power in the region.

See my 30 point "Putin" mindset above, any outcome possible but it's a question of probabilities, nobody's betting Ukraine - unfortunate reality, reason I'm typing is because this could evolve into pure insanity/WWIII

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Clay

That's the image that Putin portrays to his people. The truth is that he is the biggest kleptocrat history has ever know. He has plundered his country and every Russian is worse of for it.

Only problems with above statement, first, his popularity rating is VERY high, 83% at last check.

Agreed. He's done a great job of implementing my first sentence. He's the master of propaganda.

Second, his been around a LONG time, very unusual for politico's to STAY popular for DECADES.

Stalin stayed around a long time as well. Dictators usually do. If they lose power, then they don't. Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi, etc.

Third, we all know every politico's got their hand in some cookie jar, that's par for the course!

Some politicians grift. Many don't. But, by some accounts, Putin is probably the richest person in the world. Putin has stolen from his countrymen tremendously.

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Clay

I don't see how you come to this conclusion. I see Ukraine coming out of this stronger than ever. It will become a major power in the region.

See my 30 point "Putin" mindset above, any outcome possible but it's a question of probabilities, nobody's betting Ukraine

Actually, many are betting Ukraine. I think it is the most likely outcome..

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See my 30 point "Putin" mindset above, any outcome possible but it's a question of probabilities, nobody's betting Ukraine - unfortunate reality, reason I'm typing is because this could evolve into pure insanity/WWIII

It already is WW 111 .....Every country has chosen their sides.

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Bakhmut is @63 miles from the Russian border (at its closest point)

63 miles. In a year. Expending 153,000 lives (so far).

/Russian version of winning

//Slavia Ukraini

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What everybody should know is NO person in the world has more enemies than Putin because he's been so successful, as defined by his voters, for so long.

These countless oligarchs spread across the world that survived and were forced to flee Russia will stop at nothing to exact their long-sought after revenge.

Ukraine - JUST A PAWN

Biden/NATO/etc. bigger chess pieces

WORLD, like us in Japan, simply 'collateral damage'

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I see Ukraine coming out of this stronger than ever. It will become a major power in the region.

how so? they are already a glorified beggar nation who owes 100s of billions of dollars to other countries already. They will be lucky to get back half the land they lost in the last year in negotiations.

and this is before the 1 trillion+ dollar reconstruction effort that will take a decade.

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Actually, many are betting Ukraine. I think it is the most likely outcome..

If you're betting on Ukraine, implies that people and capital will likely flow there on a strong long-term secular basis, EXACTLY what's NOT going to happen at this rate....

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Clay

What everybody should know is NO person in the world has more enemies than Putin because he's been so successful, as defined by his voters, for so long.

I don't think he has many enemies at all, because he usually kills them, puts them in prison, or they flee the country. Fleeing the country doesn't mean you won't be killed. There are many that went to UK etc. that were killed by Putin.

As far as being successful, he is personally very successful. And rich. Russia, not so much.

These countless oligarchs spread across the world that survived and were forced to flee Russia will stop at nothing to exact their long-sought after revenge.

They were fleeing Putin. Some still were killed by him.

Sure some want political change in Russia. I would say that was natural.

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Blacklabel

I see Ukraine coming out of this stronger than ever. It will become a major power in the region.

how so? they are already a glorified beggar nation who owes 100s of billions of dollars to other countries already. They will be lucky to get back half the land they lost in the last year in negotiations.

and this is before the 1 trillion+ dollar reconstruction effort that will take a decade.

Yup. Look at Japan and Germany after WW2.

Ukraine will replace Russia as the power in the region.

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Clay

Actually, many are betting Ukraine. I think it is the most likely outcome..

If you're betting on Ukraine, implies that people and capital will likely flow there on a strong long-term secular basis, EXACTLY what's NOT going to happen at this rate....

Don't be so sure. Mark, my words. It will. Ukraine will replace Russia as the power in the region.

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Sure some want political change in Russia. I would say that was natural.

AGREED!!!! Exiled Oligarchs want 'political change'.

Nice way of saying, "lets utilize Ukraine/NATO/West to get Putin!"

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Clay

Sure some want political change in Russia. I would say that was natural.

AGREED!!!! Exiled Oligarchs want 'political change'.

Nice way of saying, "lets utilize Ukraine/NATO/West to get Putin!"

So you are saying that exiled oligarchs engineered Putin to plan a bloody imperialistic invasion of Ukraine to get revenge on him?

Incredible.

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Oh, Black, where did you get all that information?

A look in the crystal ball, MAGA conspiracy theories?

According to CNN it will take at least 2 years for Ukraine to regain the land......

Right, CNN the experts in any and all fields, especially military!

Then they would need to "invade" Crimea and other areas that Obama gave to Russia....

Yup, Obama gave .... SMILE! And it won't be an invasion, more like a real liberation!

They will end up with someone more neutral at best and might even get an angry orange man Part 2 instead.

Wishing for another one doing his best to divide (not only) his country? Good luck with that!

Its not looking promising in any of these areas, so negotiation time is around the corner.

Agreed. Just tell PUTAin to get the f.... out of Ukraine, pay reparations, present himself and others like him at an international tribunal in DeHague, and so on. See how easy all this could be! And I can tell you, quite a number of Russians would be more than happy if all this happened, trust me (if you want to)!

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Russia has lost about 200,000 troops already.

Assuming this is a true number, Putin's biggest crime is genocide of Russian people.

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Yup. Look at Japan and Germany after WW2.

yes, they both are still controlled to this day by having US military hosted in their countries.

Thats your strong and powerful future Ukraine?

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Oh, Black, where did you get all that information?

CNN, did you not see that?

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Don't be so sure. Mark, my words. It will. Ukraine will replace Russia as the power in the region.

Way too much long-term 'going concern' risk for people or capital to ever favor Ukraine, especially in today's digital era. Fantasy hope's not a strategy.

Putin can utilize EMP weapons anytime to destroy all electrical and thus economic activity in Ukraine. He's done so before very effectively with trouble spots...the only person to use such weapons.

Putin LIKES this state of war - see 30pt Putin plan above

There's no path to this great Ukrainian 'military win' and destruction of Russian, it's a pure fantasy, now my next strategic plan is going to the daycare, you folks take care and lets all pray for a peaceful durable solution!

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