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S Korea deploys mobile data, police to tackle nightlife cluster

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For those who persist in praising South Korea's handling of COVID19, they are failing to consider (1) that South Korea implented a smartphone tracking system that those in Japan, including the whining gaijin crowd would not easily accept, and (2) massive testing did not lower cases or deaths, and hte freal value in being able to trace contacts soon became lost once full community infection started. And (3) South Korea's infection case and death rate relative to it's small population is higher than that of Japan with it's larger population. South Korea's government has wisely shut down these establishments and made it clear that this is far from over for South Korea. Their systematic approach as aggressive as it is has failed to "contain" COVID19, which is not an indicator of any poor response but just how resilient and difficult this coronaviris is. 중국 감사합니다

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Many nightclub customers are believed to be reluctant to come forward because of the stigma surrounding homosexuality in the socially conservative country.

Here may be a challenge against the Korea's containment strategy at expense of individual rights to privacy.

Mayor Park -- who on Monday announced a 2 million won ($1,630) fine for those who avoid testing.

Despite the emergency situation, I don't take such a draconian approach for granted. Without balanced concerns, Without an exit plan, it would only lead to an Orwellian society.

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As you all indicate, every country, every society has different social culture and practices which is difficult for other societies and cultures to understand and appreciate. So it is with governments. The difference in the structure of the government and the laws within makes it impossible to evaluate other governments based strictly upon our own knowledge and understanding of government and governance and our own social experiences and values..

SK as with many other countries, many people may do obey any requests or even mandates without some form of punishment. Sad that one must use such tactics to help themselves and the society.

Japan too has similar problems but so far there was no need for fines or other forms of punishment.

Sadder still, in the US, manyDStates governors and even City Mayors use their police and National Guard to monitor and enforce (in some cases forcibly) what is not a law but an executive request/order.

Therefore each government does what they "interpret" is their appropriate response to "negative" or "unwanted" action or activity. The point is, it must be effective and worthwhile for the offender as well as the offended.

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For those who persist in praising South Korea's handling of COVID19

I got mails from friends in the UK, US and France praising South Korea’s handling of this. I’ve read more than a few journalists using South Korea’s approach to this is as the benchmark for good practice.

South Korea has been gaining admiration from countries around the world. So much respect.

Isn’t it great?

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"For those who persist in praising South Korea's handling of COVID19, they are failing to consider (1) that South Korea implented a smartphone tracking system that those in Japan, including the whining gaijin"

Given they praise Korea so much, Japan should tag the whole lot of them.

Plus Korea's "brilliance" is showing, in the massive rate of re-infestation and false negatives.

It's all in the news.

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South Korea...top drawer, excellent, quality.

Much respect.

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This is an instructive phenomenon of a country's having its Covid Virus epidemic under excellent control, only to have it fall apart because the country was not selective regarding keeping closed those institutions which are typically jammed and serving alcohol. This example demonstrates how contagious and vicious this Covid virus is.

This is very useful for the public, public health officials and government officials. It has nothing specific to do with gay clubs, it has to do with all social clubs and bars which are crowded and serve alcohol to young adults who crave person to person socializing and hooking up. All it takes is one infected socially active person to mix with a crowd and cause havoc.

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Given they praise Korea so much, Japan should tag the whole lot of them.

South Korea - excellent. My estimation of that country grows by the day.

It looks like many people around the world are feeling the same way.

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As South Korea is still technically at war against the North, the government can impose stringent measures on its people for the sake of national security under the crisis, no needing to be concerned of backlash such as litigation on abuse of power. Their response of full containment has been made possible under this particular context. You can't easily and universally copy-cat the Korean model to any other countries where both virus situations and legal and social frameworks differ.

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You can't easily and universally copy-cat the Korean model to any other countries where both virus situations and legal and social frameworks differ.

No, but they still did a great job. The world is seeing it. Such respect.

-5?

This is fun.

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Yes so many say they admire South Korea's approach to containing covid19.

But are there actually any country who wants to follow what they did?

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Japan is far behind, unfortunately, and needs to catch up, in terms of data science and 5G technology. Northeast Asia should have a common standard to facilitate the flow of information and people. South Korea and China already established fast corridor for the movement of business people, Japan should joint in without delay.

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Jimizo:

I got mails from friends in the UK, US and France praising South Korea’s handling of this. I’ve read more than a few journalists using South Korea’s approach to this is as the benchmark for good practice.

...and what do your friends in the UK, US and France know about South Korea, other than what the "mainstream media" with its rapidly decreasing credibility is telling them?

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Akie:

South Korea and China already established fast corridor for the movement of business people, Japan should joint in without delay.

By "China" you mean Taiwan, right? If you mean the mainland China CCP dictatorship, the last thing Japan should do is trust this murderous regime.

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One of the reason's Korea's response was so effective was that they implemented it pretty much right away. No dilly-dallying. Countries with weak leaders that waffled didn't implement their testing strategy fast enough and they're paying the price now, even if they started testing at Korean levels later on. The problem is that the delay in countries with weak leadership let the problem spread significantly before measures were taken.

Weak leadership has resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands.

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I wouldn’t say they on your level of enlightenment but they do check for globalists under the bed before turning the light out.

Which 'globalists' are these people looking under the bed for? The jews, or the boogeyman?

So far, those are the only two things I can see that the term 'globalists' refers to. No one who uses the term as a pejorative has ever provided any other meaning for the word.

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Ah, the beautiful Korea.

"Hopes of creating a natural “herd immunity” against the deadly virus might have been lost after almost 300 cases in South Korea emerged of people who had seemingly contracted COVID-19 a second time.

But the country’s Central Clinical Committee for Emerging Disease Control announced that the cases of allegedly reinfected people were due to a testing fault"

Faulty kits?

In beautiful Korea?

Nah, certainly not.

If only this was in Japan though; gaijin would be losing their dentures in exasperation.

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"For those who persist in praising South Korea's handling of COVID19, they are failing to consider (1) that South Korea implented a smartphone tracking system that those in Japan, including the whining gaijin"

Given they praise Korea so much, Japan should tag the whole lot of them.

Plus Korea's "brilliance" is showing, in the massive rate of re-infestation and false negatives.

It's all in the news.

You seem to be whining more about Korea than the gaijins about Japan.

Further, the suspected cases of reactivation were all false positives because the tests picked up dead virus fragments in recovered patients. So much for your fake news.

https://www.medicine.com/health/not-covid-19-reactivation-just-false-positive-tests-confirm-south-korean-experts

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"https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/testing-faults-blamed-for-south-korea-coronavirus-reinfection-results/"

Almost forgot the link; dear me.

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Gotta love the way you exegete and create fake news.

Where in that link does it say, ‘massive rates of reinfestation and false negatives’?

It was faulty in the sense that the kits picked up dead virus fragments that had remained in the patients body, not just the active ones.

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When South Korea deregulated, the government made it clear.

'No one seems to be on the road that has not passed. Whether our path succeeds or fails, it will have a big impact on the answer to a country that will soon take the same path as us. We shouldn't think it's over. '

Korea is now facing a new wave of infection.

But we were also thinking about it and preparing for it.

Korea is now acting on a new approach.

It is said that Korea is doing well, but there are many differences between speaking and acting.

We seem to be losing all our strength in this nightmare that has started again.

Perhaps the world won't be able to beat the virus until a vaccine is available.

I hope other countries will think more to help their country than to look at this situation and comment.

That is the more favorable way for your country.

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