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By JIM VERTUNO AUSTIN, Texas©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
68 Comments
FizzBit
Perfect example of the decline of values in the media. Still no match for CNNFOXMSNBC though who can convince a nation into supporting wars that kill tens of thousands.
dagon
I remember the Alex Jones who was arrested bullhorning President Bush and the Iraq War and exposing the Wall Street banking establishment.
It seems he became deranged about the time of the Obama Administration.
Unfortunately many still use him as a source of information, quite a few on this very site.
Nemo
There are not enough bytes on the internet to fully explain what an odious being Alex is.
Let’s BRIEFLY review:
Claimed that Sandyhook didn’t happen, kids didn’t die, parents were acting - all so that the government could take people’s guns.
With a wink and a nod encouraged the on-line harassment of the bereaved. Many of them had to move multiple times, change jobs, sleep with guns of there own as the harassment went past the merely tasteless and became physically threatening.
Used his denial to sell a rouge’s portfolio of products from body armor to “supplements” the revenues of which exceeds $50 million per year.
Refused to engage in legal actions against him on a variety of wholly ridiculous excuses eventually resulting in multiple default judgments.
Took several of his (by his own phone records but more on that in a moment) rather profitable businesses into bankruptcy in an effort to render them immune from asset seizure as a result of judgments.
LIED under oath on multiple occasions including when he said he personally searched his own phone and couldn’t find any emails relating to Sandyhook because “I don’t use email.”
His rocket scientist attorneys accidentally sent the entire digital contents of his phone to the plaintiff’s legal team who found SEVERAL emails from Alex on just that topic including some linking it to sales success.
I really, REALLY hope the jury comes back with a liability judgement that not only bankrupts his companies, not only renders Alex destitute, but puts a claim on every penny he ever makes until the end of his miserable existence on this Earth.
He lied, he encouraged people to torment the families of dead children. He profited on those deaths. He attempted to defraud the legal process and lied in an attempt to escape its judgments.
Just a disgusting miserable excuse for a human.
Nemo
Seriously, get help. You desperately need it.
There is no moral equivalence between the Jones and the fever dreams of your imagination.
The Avenger
I can only hope that the parents/families from the Sandy Hook mass shooting are compensated and rewarded for the malicious lies for profit perpetrated against them over the past decade. The greatest reward would be the end of the hateful website that instigated the lies and defamatory injuries against the innocent. Conspiracy theorists who try to profit by targeting innocent people with hateful lies, who try to profit by hurting and threatening innocent people, must be brought to justice and stopped. They have no credibility and they must be exposed as the shills and cons they are, and also anyone who knowingly profited from these arguably quasi-criminal actions! Lastly, whoever bought the lies and wear the T-shirt, U need to get help - talk to family and friends or get therapy...what were you thinking! What other lies have you accepted from this source? Two time tested proverbs come to mind: "a fool & his money are soon parted" & "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me." There is no shame in accepting the truth!
Nemo
The VENN diagram between Alex listeners and adherents of the Insurrectionist in Chief is a perfect circle. To be one is to be another.
Is that why Don, who couldn’t stop slobbering over Amex has suddenly gone silent about him?
UChosePoorly
Alex's face when it was revealed that all of the texts he sent in the last 2-3 years were accidentally sent by his lawyer to the lawyer for the parents! Priceless! What an awful person and a stain on my nation this guy has been.
Nemo
Sadly hook, line and sinker. In contradiction to all evidence to the contrary there are some of our lot who routinely site Alex and infowars as a credible source for their “assertions.”
As a graduate of a school that emphasized critical thinking, it’s disappointing beyond description.
Strangerland
He's pretending he's bankrupt, but this case should actually bankrupt him. Take every last red cent he has, and every cent to come in for the next decade.
No money, no apology, and no admittance of wrongdoing can ever fix this. Jones is already morally bankrupt. Society should remember him as an entirely useless member of humanity who has provided not even one single positive contribution to the species. A literal waste of skin.
Strangerland
Only someone severely lacking the ability to think critically could ever find any equivalence.
There's a reason why you don't tell us what media sources you think are reputable - it would make you look foolish for believing in Alex Jones.
bass4funk
Any verifiable proof of this? I doubt it.
Millions do, that’s why he was able to get so popular through the years
No, that would be because of failed liberal policies that have been screwing and disenfranchising the people is what caused people to abandon both parties and embrace populism.
Strangerland
Funny seeing all our right-wingers pretend they haven't quoted and loved Jones for years and years.
As if we'd forget, righties. You guys just look like idiots for having followed him in the first place. We remember.
bass4funk
Who?
dagon
I think thou doth protest too much.
Jones was enabled by Trump from a fringe internet personality and became drunk on the closeness to the seats of power.
Jones became unnecessary as Trump and the MAGA establishment have co-opted most of his talking points.
Trump mainstreamed and enabled Jones. Another thing is complicit in regarding the downward path of the American public.
Bob Fosse
Take him off the air and the world will get just a little bit smarter.
Nemo
I think even a cursory examination of the comment base of all usernames beginning with the letters “B”’or “F” will reveal quite a few citations.
silly silly B….
As if that makes it any better or acceptable or somehow acceptable or understandable.
I would say “this is beneath you” but that would be a misstatement.
And then the predictable whatabout deflection pivot to “the left.”
It’s as pathetic as it is false.
bass4funk
No, Jones was doing what Jones does way before Trump’s political presence.
Ok, reality check now. Jones has nothing to do with the former President in any sense of the matter. Jones was doing his thing way, way before Trump or Bush came on to the scene.
FizzBit
If you are going to continue to insult me then expect the same childish stalking behavior in return.
lincolnman
A disgusting, vile, con-man....one who not only preys on his weak-minded supporters, but libels and slanders the victims of mass murder....
That he was an early and fervent supporter of Trump says it all - two sides of the same coin...
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Imagine writing this before then acknowledging,
You answered your own question.
Strangerland
Seeing the complete and utter incompetence of the Jones lawyers, you have to wonder if Jones and Trump got lawyer recommendations from each other.
And it begs the question, why can't these losers get decent council?
bass4funk
Apples and oranges argument?
What would be considered as “decent” council? They should go by the law based on the charges that were filed or by liberal standards?
Nemo
Stranger this is an excellent question: I can hypothesize 3 possible explanations:
1) “You get what you pay for” level incompetence. I personally subscribe to this theory in menswear and legal counsel. Pay a cheap price, get cheap stuff.
2) One is entitled to a legal defense in a criminal case. It’s the reason there is a public defender’s office - so that the indigent can get the most basic of legal assistance. Civil matters have no such guarantees. Maybe no reputable law firm can stand to defend him. It’s why the fffg couldn’t get a white shoe firm to represent him.
3) (unlikely but one can dream) Intentional legal malpractice. Just hear me out. Perhaps, PERHAPS Alex’s own attorneys just cannot tolerate his behavior and “accidentally- on purpose” let the records slip.
Just a thought.
Strangerland
They did both choose counsel with no more intelligence than a fruit.
Council that doesn't turn over the entire contents of your phone to the opponents. Council that doesn't tell you of a plan to overthrow your government with a coup.
nishikat
Not all Trump people are Jones people, but all Jones people are Trump people. Jones also reported about Hillary's child porn crimes. This is part of the pattern of Jones people being anit-Clinton Pro Trump people.
FizzBit
No, I refuse to hit the pedophile bars in Southeast Asia with you.
Nemo
So, you’re going to p-off then, right?
Strangerland
Would he have looked more intelligent if he believed in batsh!t crazy conspiracy theories like Tower Seven?
Strangerland
What about the ones in the basements of pizza places?
bass4funk
I see, so when the Dems do it, it’s acceptable.
And the 1500 hours of video that belongs to the public that we are not allowed to view because the left just say so?? Interesting…
FizzBit
Make up your mind child?
Strangerland
Yeah, because that's ever happened, right?
Eh? Trump appointed, hard-right judge mate.
Methinks you were trying to do a Jones impression here. Do you also believe Sandyhook was a lie to enable more gun laws?
Bob Fosse
My son gets like this when he has too much juice. Time for a nap perhaps.
FizzBit
whoa, the circle jerk sand box is filling up fast.
Strangerland
Should we all meet at Tower Seven and continue the circle there?
bass4funk
Most definitely.
What’s hard right, in what way?
Just asking and trying to understand the lefts emotional (again) outburst at this guy.
Of course not. But here is a bigger issue, if you want to go after Jones for saying outlandish and controversial things then please go after a plethora of Dems and libs that do the same.
Nemo
“Assumed it was FB”
damn autocorrect.
bass4funk
Ok, so now back from the diatribe, why would the Dems not be transparent if they feel so confident and just show the public the videos? Being public records (it’s in the word) we the people have every right to view them and if these people want to take them seriously then they should be open, honest and forthcoming. Saying “trust me” just doesn’t cut it.
Strangerland
Oh, your team tried. Turns out that it's a false equivalence, and that Dems are only about 10% as delusional as Republicans, and therefore there isn't anyone on the left to go after like Jones.
There I go dropping reality into your rhetoric again. My bad.
Bob Fosse
When the circus comes to town it’s only natural that the clown gets the biggest laugh. Don’t fizzle out just yet, keep doing your bit til the laughter fades.
FizzBit
Now I see your problem. Sorry bout that mate.
Strangerland
Says the guy whose team deleted all their Jan 6th correspondence knowing it would expose them for being treasonous...
Strangerland
Remember when Bass tried to quote anonymous sources as an attempt to discredit Hutchinson's testimony under oath, then remember the two guys who supposedly didn't agree with her, lawyered up and it turned out they deleted their texts to hide their Jan 6 treason?
Remember how Bass also thought Trump was competent?
Keep these things in mine when evaluating whether you think he knows what he is talking about.
Laguna
American "bro" culture. One reason why I won't go back.
Bob Fosse
The parallels with alex jones are remarkable
”I got censored for telling the truth!”
No, you get censored for calling other posters pedophiles and cokeheads.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Wrong again. They refused to testify. Funny how often that happens. Rightists talk a lot of crap until they're called to testify.
https://www.salon.com/2022/07/25/secret-agents-tried-to-torpedo-hutchinson-testimony-lawyer-up-refuse-to-testify-panel/
FizzBit
Calm down child.
Strangerland
Would you consider him an adult if he believed in the batsh!t crazy Tower Seven conspiracy theory?
2020hindsights
bass4funk
You miss the point. They aren't going after Jones for saying outlanding things, they are going after him for saying those things while not believing that they are true and profiting from them. That setting off his followers to harass the victims parents, who are already going through a harrowing time. It's profiting from inflicting immense hurt and pain on innocent people.
Let me know which Dems do that.
Nemo
Thanks for the opening otherwise this would be off-topic!
You mean like the Abortion ban going down in flames in my home state of Red RED Kansas?
Or do you mean like Nate Silver now giving the Democrats a 55% probability of holding and possibly adding seats in the Senate?
Surely you can’t mean Dons endorsement of “Eric” (Clapton? Cartman? We damn well know it wasn’t his youngest son!)
When out of retorts, silly B reverts to @well when we are back in power.” Or “well we are going to win” neither of which is even marginally related to the facts or the issue at hand.
Jimizo
Real trash who appeals to the most vain, predictable, thin-skinned and limited group out there - conspiracy theorists.
Democracy is the best we have but one of the best arguments against it is this group are allowed to vote ( and then of course start gibbering about stolen elections ).
TokyoLiving
Sooo funny to read the Trumpyfans defending such a sick conspiratorial fascist clown..
vic.M
As real as the photos of the children who are now older.
Desert Tortoise
If you keep feeding the troll the discussion will be closed by the mods and adults will not be able to discuss any more.
Nemo
BTW, I am watching In court video of Alex getting ripped a new one by opposing counsel being held to account by the Judge.
I think we may have reached the limits of lying, at least within the legal system.
bass4funk
Not good and?
Rightfully so.
Why on Earth would you watch his show if you can't stand the guy?
No, Jones was refitted by Trump and the majority of people that followed Trump had nothing to do with Jones, the guy has his own brand of followers. For the life of me, I just don't understand why the MSM has to lie like a rug on so much of this.
nishikat
And shows that all Alex people are Trump people and generally Trump people support Alex Jones and always bring up Hillary being a pedophile as reported on Info Wars
bass4funk
I agree!
Nemo
And not for nothing (and tangentially taking Dessert’s advice),
When one seeks to explain, deflect from or whatabout Alex’s behavior, one really needs to re-examine the fundamental tenants of humanity.
It really is like saying “Well, sure Pol Pot was bad but whatabout…?”
Um no. “Pol Pot was bad” Period. Stop talking.
FizzBit
I concur.
Now how to convince the trolls to grow up?
dagon
Even if you disagree with them politically, drawing any equivalence between these people and Jones is definitely Alex Jones true believer territory.
Nemo
So you ARE going to seek the help you so obviously and desperately need then, eh?
nishikat
Sandy Hook parents are not the ones in legal trouble. They are not the trolls. Wolfgang Halbig, Alex Jones, and Trump are. Hillary never did anything bad or trolled anyone, so they just call her a pedophile since Trump/Jones/Halbig people have nothing constructive to contribute. They just say "pedophile/Liberal/Hillary/socialist" What does that even mean? Again, look at who has legal trouble. It is NOT the Sandy Hook parents/victimes. It's the Alex/Trump/Halbig people. And they all listen to Tucker
Nemo
The look on Alex’s face when the the Attorney says “Your attorneys sent me the digital record of your phone 12 days ago and it’s not privileged”
I mean, I’m glad I’m alive to have seen it.
And the follow-up: You know what perjury is, right?”
It must have made struggling through torts in law school worth it.
Nemo
I really hesitate to predict a judgement but……
I bet the jury didn’t like being insulted (Yeah, they played that video too), or lied to (and if there is any karma, Alex Jones will face criminal perjury charges because he is obviously guilty) and I bet they want him to PAY for lying about dead kids and their families.
They might very well exceed the plaintiffs request.
smithinjapan
bass4funk: Sooooooo many comments, including a demand for proof that people defend the guy when you have done nothing but (and the number of desperate posts alone clearly indicate that), and not one of them condemns the man for what he's done.
In any case, the sooner he has the blood vessel in his brain burst the better, in my opinion. He is a disgusting individual and the world will be far better off without him. He should not be able to escape paying any and all fines by simply declaring bankruptcy then renaming his company and making millions again (and I laugh at people who drink his animal bone drinks or use his taint wipes). It's absolutely no surprise he couldn't hold onto his wife and child, and they were right to run from the man.