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Saudi Arabia says 'absolutely not' to oil phaseout at COP28

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Yeah, you don't ask the drug dealer to stop dealing drugs. Just find a way to make them less relevant.

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"Absolutely not," he said in an interview in Riyadh. "And I assure you not a single person -- I'm talking about governments -- believes in that."

He is telling the truth, embarrassing the UN and developed nations virtue signaling about SDGs, and showing what a farce the setting, hosts and whole shenanigans are.

Let's have a conference on feudal wealth distribution, hosted by Smaug in his lair.

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Yeah, you don't ask the drug dealer to stop dealing drugs. Just find a way to make them less relevant.

A bit different. You cannot make millions of cars disappear just like that.

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Definitely NOT woke.

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It’s a demand driven issue. If countries stop having demand for oil due to changes towards alternative sources of energy, then what the Saudis say about it will be irrelevant.

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Is it any surprise that Saudi Arabia opposes oil fade out? What else have they got? Sand and terrorists. Not much money there

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The equivalent of telling the US to demilitarise. Of course they said no.

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It’s a demand driven issue.

Yes

If countries stop having demand for oil due to changes towards alternative sources of energy,

But they won’t, not to mention most people don’t have that kind of money and these EV don’t have a wide enough range, not to mention we need fossil fuels to make these charging stations, add to that the cost of electricity would skyrocket and the current grid around the world will have to be rebuilt, not sure if the left put all these additional costs into consideration.

then what the Saudis say about it will be irrelevant.

That’s just not going to happen, however, if the US go in its own backyard and drill and tap into its own rich natural resources oil, gas, coal, we could finally tell the Saudis to go and blank themselves, until that day we will be their little dependent b****

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Saudi has a collection of hare brained plans for new cities and super resorts for the ultra wealthy to be built out in the desert.

They will need oil money for this.

A meeting science fiction and architecture to ""fuel " {pun intended } the ego of it's ruler.

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Yeah, you don't ask the drug dealer to stop dealing drugs. Just find a way to make them less relevant.

Exactly. This is the point.

Finding ways (there's not going to be one way, in my opinion) is the challenge. There are quite a few promising, embryonic and not-so-embryonic ideas out there. (Don't ask me to write an essay.) EV cars as we currently know them are probably not a major part of the answer. Different parts of the planet are going to come up with solutions that best match the conditions they have to work with. Parts of Australia (South Australia, for example), are having significant success with solar power these days.

Cities like Copenhagen are already doing brilliantly well with bicycles as the major source of commuter transport. That wouldn't work everywhere (although it would be nice to see a more serious effort made in that direction by those developed cities who could, in theory, move more positively in that direction... batteries that last for 2 years and make bicycles super easy to pedal have to be promoted more vigorously.) That would require MacDonalds junkies to rethink their lifestyles, get their massive a...s into some physical activity, etc. A big ask.

I really believe that there should be some discussion about the distinction between travel within & between cities. Most likely, public transport should eventually become the only option for city to city travel, with loads of cheap privately owned and rental options (not only bicycles) for getting around cities.

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In an interview with AFP last week, United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres called for a total phaseout of fossil fuels, warning "complete disaster" awaits mankind on its current trajectory.

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There aren’t any real alternatives to the power and price of fossil fuels.

Kerry and Kamala travel to Dubai in massive jetliners with beds and showers that most people in the world will never have the opportunity to see let alone use.

At the same time they are being lectured by these elites to change their lifestyles-it’s a big con!

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It is impossible for all use of fossil fuels to end for at least the next 100 yrs.

Massive reductions ARE possible, but only if govts force the migration and make it not just aspirational, but economical, goal to avoid using fossil fuels across all industries.

Only those industries where there isn't any choice will remain. I'm expecting international cargo and travel to be the last required industries. Residential housing and massive generation of electricity will be the first to replace fossil fuels, given the correct dis-incentives.

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