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Bill Clinton was able to use a shut down to force the Republicans into giving into his demands. There aren't any intelligent Democrats left. Bill was the last great Democrat. Nancy and Chuck are a cute couple, but they have never faced adversity or opposition. They are weak willed and lacking in brains. Government workers have already been paid for December and no department will run out of money.

The only important thing about the "shut down" is that if Trump blinks or doesn't do what he says then he will lose his support. He keeps making threats, but never does anything. He hasn't done very much in 2 years. He has fought with the media, but he hasn't fought at all against the Democrats or Republicans who oppose him. He has fired 2 or 3 people and removed security clearance from 1. That hardly justifies all of the hatred for him, but he will be hated if he backs down now. Chuck and Nancy don't understand that because they haven't ever faced adversity. Trump has 2 choices fight very hard or cave and forget about 2020.

Chuck and Nancy have almost as much person al wealth as trump, but they got theirs from BIG government. They are weak and neither could take 1 day of the attacks that Trump shrugs off.

If Trump fights he will win and if he doesn't it is OVER for him.

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Stop saying it is a key Trump campaign promise to "build the Wall"!! The correct campaign promise was that Mexico would pay for it. Therefore....to fulfill this campaign promise, no budgetary money is needed.

(When Trump says the trade deal formerly known as Prince will pay for it, he lies....sort of like the entire GOP establishment regarding the deficit and the rich/corp tax cut bill.)

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Shutting down the government over a campaign promise that has already failed (the Mexican's were supposed to pay for it) is ridiculous. It's putting pride over the needs of the American people.

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"We will do whatever is necessary to build the border wall to stop this ongoing crisis of immigration," said White House senior adviser Stephen Miller.

Translation: We'll do whatever necessary to distract voters from the real reasons the American dream is crumbling beneath their feet; grifters like my boss who are right this minute using the federal government to enrich themselves and their cronies, waging continued class war against over 90% of the population. But look poor squirrel on the southern border, rapist, MS-13. To paraphrase FDR, the only thing you have to fear are the many things we tell you to fear. We want a whipped up irrational population b/c they are easily led.

And the messenger, bosom friend to white nationalists everywhere:

[Miller's] mother's ancestors had immigrated to the United States in the early 1900s from Belarus, escaping the anti-Jewish pogroms in the Russian Empire. When his great-grandmother arrived in the US in 1906, she spoke only Yiddish, the historical language of the Ashkenazi Jews of Eastern Europe.

You truly couldn't make this stuff up.

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Trump should have forced this issue last December. America is in the midst of a drug epidemic that is causing thousands of deaths every year. America’s life expectancy is declining due largely to this epidemic. A large chunk of the problem is smuggled over the border with Mexico. Build the damn wall and put an end to the Progressives open borders.

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Bill Clinton was able to use a shut down to force the Republicans into giving into his demands.

You mean the Gingrich shutdown?

https://www.history.com/news/bill-clinton-government-shutdown-lewinsky-affair

There aren't any intelligent Democrats left.

Covefefe....

Bill was the last great Democrat.

H was a draft dodge and a pervert, just like the current president....

Nancy and Chuck are a cute couple, but they have never faced adversity or opposition.

????

They are weak willed and lacking in brains.

Trump the intellectual:  "Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest—and you all know it! Please don't feel so stupid or insecure. It's not your fault." 

Government workers have already been paid for December and no department will run out of money.

Say who?

The only important thing about the "shut down" is that if Trump blinks or doesn't do what he says then he will lose his support. He keeps making threats, but never does anything. He hasn't done very much in 2 years.

Truth!!!!

He has fought with the media, but he hasn't fought at all against the Democrats or Republicans who oppose him. He has fired 2 or 3 people and removed security clearance from 1. That hardly justifies all of the hatred for him, but he will be hated if he backs down now.

Truest me, he's hated no matter what he does...

Chuck and Nancy don't understand that because they haven't ever faced adversity.

?????

Trump has 2 choices fight very hard or cave and forget about 2020.

Third choice - be impeached for conspiracy, obstruction, and collusion....Individual -1.....

Chuck and Nancy have almost as much person al wealth as trump, but they got theirs from BIG government.

And Trump got his from Daddy, and by swindling and cheating poor folks....

They are weak and neither could take 1 day of the attacks that Trump shrugs off.

LMFAO - Trump is a wimp - a whining two-year old.....Chuck and Nancy have been playing hard ball politics for over 40 years....

If Trump fights he will win and if he doesn't it is OVER for him.

Mueller has already ensured it is over for him....

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Investing 5billion into the immigrant countries would stop migration. As for drugs, Americans are consumers, they want drugs, so wall or not, they will come in. Unless of course, let’s make America great involes domestic production of cocoa and opium...

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Build the damn wall and put an end to the Progressives open borders.

Progreasives don't want open borders. Why does it make conservatibes feel good to constantly push falsehoods in a hyperbolic manner?

As for a wall stopping the flow of drugs, that works 100% for prisons, so of course it will work for the border. Never mind tunneling.

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Stephen Miller, the Goebbels of the White House.

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@Wolfpack

We'll said.

America is in the midst of a drug epidemic that is causing thousands of deaths every year. America’s life expectancy is declining due largely to this epidemic. A large chunk of the problem is smuggled over the border with Mexico. Build the damn wall and put an end to the Progressives open borders.

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Concerned Citizen: Do you think there are no drugs in prisons?

Do you think anyone would be smuggling drugs to a place that lacks demand?

Do you think the demand for drugs in the US is not the responsibility of Americans?

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A large chunk of the problem is smuggled over the border with Mexico. Build the damn wall and put an end to the Progressives open borders.

A majority of the drugs smuggled into the US through vehicles with secret compartments which pass through customs.

So where do you plan to build a 'Wall' ?

Tunnels are another channel for smuggling in drugs. Tunnels as you might understand are dug below the ground.

Do you plan to build underground walls? And how deep do you think they should be.

Speedboats are also used to smuggle drugs through the sea.

So do you plan to build a wall blocking the whole American coast?

Finally drugs are also flown in either through passenger flights or by Ultralight aircrafts.

So where do you plan to build a wall, at the airports so that planes can't land!!!!

I can understand that Trumpets are not the brightest of the bulbs but come on.....

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Shut it down. It will be 100% that vulture Schumer and that dingbat Pelosi and the rest of the Democrats' fault for not cooperating with border security..

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Shut it down. It will be 100% that vulture Schumer and that dingbat Pelosi and the rest of the Democrats' fault for not cooperating with border security..

Absolutely - shut it down say the Trumpers - the other 80% of Americans will accurately label this the "Trump Shutdown".... or replace the "u" in shutdown with an "i"....

"Trump said he would be "proud" to take responsibility for a government shutdown. He doubled down on the matter of a potential shut down at a bill signing later in the day, saying, "I don't mind owning that issue."

https://nordic.businessinsider.com/pelosi-trump-shutdown-schumer-meeting-border-wall-2018-12

Got it Donnie - you own it....

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Shut it down. It will be 100% that vulture Schumer and that dingbat Pelosi and the rest of the Democrats' fault for not cooperating with border security..

Only in conservative lalaland.

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Mueller has already ensured it is over for him....

Since when are you the judge and jury?

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Chuck Schumer is an embarrassment to the Democratic Party. He should be working in an ice cream parlor.

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Chuck and Nancy don't understand that because they haven't ever faced adversity. Trump has 2 choices fight very hard or cave and forget about 2020.

Oh, I agree.

Chuck and Nancy have almost as much person al wealth as trump, but they got theirs from BIG government.

Robbing Paul to give to Peter, it’s the socialists way.

They are weak and neither could take 1 day of the attacks that Trump shrugs off.

I love the fact that they can’t even look Trump in the eye which indicates insecurity unsure and nervousness. Very telling. But my kids do the same, so I wouldn’t expect any less from Pelosi and Chucky.

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The wall was always and only ever a joke. Why are people still pretending to take it seriously? Of course such a wasteful and useless thing will never be built, regardless of who was supposed to be paying for it.

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It is really easy to see the problem that the Democrats have by reading these posts. Any fan of Bill Clinton is looked down upon because Bill isn't Brown skinned and he isn't advocating violence.

Nancy and Chuck can't control their own party. They are the wrong color and the wrong gender. Nancy was shouted down by a bunch of DACA supporters who hate her because she is white. Nancy and Chuck don't know what to do when they are heckled. They have never faced opposition. Bill Clinton was the last strong leader of the Democratic party. Bernie is the new leader even though he is the wrong color and gender.

Nancy and Chuck don't want a shut down. But they can't have a wall built. They are in the same position as Trump. All 3 of them have to win on this issue. Bill would have seen the way things were going and done something a long time ago. Chuck and Nancy aren't leaders. They are so use to having their way with everything that they froze during their meeting with Trump.

Nancy is doomed if Trump decides to use his power to veto and Chuck will look impotent. They waited too long to do something. Bill would have started building the wall , but done so while having a loophole. Chuck and Nancy are too dumb to realize that.

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I love the fact that they can’t even look Trump in the eye which indicates insecurity unsure and nervousness.

It's not always easy to gaze into the eyes of the abyss.

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Stephen Miller, the Goebbels of the White House

I keep forgetting how much it bothers liberals to have proper border security.

The wall was always and only ever a joke. Why are people still pretending to take it seriously?

Apparently you don’t live along the border.

Of course such a wasteful and useless thing will never be built, regardless of who was supposed to be paying for it.

Tell that to the Israelis, you get laughed at.

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I love it, President Trump ambushed Chuck and Nancy last week at the WH. Old Chuck looked like he would have been more comfortable having the 19th century treatment for VD; he kept saying we could have security without a wall is about as stupid as saying you can lose weight by eating all your meals at McDonalds. Poor Nancy, she was not too thrilled to have reporters throwing unscripted questions at her either; she was wincing so much the botox was starting to ooze out of her crows feet. That my JT posters is real transparency...

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"Chuck Schumer is an embarrassment to the Democratic Party. He should be working in an ice cream parlor."

He's not qualified to work in an ice cream parlor or as a dog catcher.

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"Chuck Schumer is an embarrassment to the Democratic Party. He should be working in an ice cream parlor."

He's not qualified to work in an ice cream parlor or as a dog catcher.

Which makes him twice as qualified as any Trump administration official...

Trump job application: Will you lie to the FBI? Do you speak Russian? Yes to both - you're hired....

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Which makes him twice as qualified as any Trump administration official...

But Schumer needs to up his game, he got creamed last week.

Schumer: “ elections have consequences Mr. President.”

Trump: “ that’s right and that’s why the country is doing so well.”

I still get a chuckle out of that. Lol

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Let Mexico pay for it, not the US taxpayers

That was the deal, wasn't it, when they voted

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How many days until the Trump shutdown?

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Let's find some compassion and change the laws to prevent most of the economic immigrants from risking their lives to get to the USA.

For most of them, the USA isn't any paradise. We owe it to them to remove all the carrots.

A wall should be used to direct illegal crossings to places where border enforcement can most easily capture them for deportation and adding that individual to a 10+ yr block from entering the USA legally.

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Let Mexico pay for it, not the US taxpayers

That was the deal, wasn't it, when they voted

Exactly. Trump made a promise he couldn't keep, so now he's angry that the democrats won't let him save face by funding his boondoggle. So he keeps doubling down.

The problem is that you can only double down so far, then your bluff gets called. The Democrats have a particularly strong hand here, and as far as getting the border wall funded, Trump is holding nothing.

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How many days until the Trump shutdown?

The Trump-down!

Friday I think.

He really should do the right thing and come up with a reasonable budget. It's easy for him to shut down right before xmas - he's rich. What about all those other people living one paycheck away from financial collapse, at christmas time, one of the most expensive times of year.

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As for a wall stopping the flow of drugs, that works 100% for prisons, so of course it will work for the border. Never mind tunneling.

Doing NOTHING hasn't worked. We already know that from the total lack of effort in the last 20+ yrs. So, when the next congress is sworn in, I look forward to them showing how smart they are on taking tiny steps to solve the border problems.

I'll be shocked if they do anything, however.

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Doing NOTHING hasn't worked.

Well, it's not doing nothing. There is the DEA who has been trying to stop the flow of drugs for three decades. They've been a total failure though.

Building a wall won't change that though. The War on Drugs is a failure, building a wall as part of the war on drugs will be as ineffective as building a wall as part of the war on immigrants. It's a boondoggle.

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But Schumer needs to up his game, he got creamed last week.

Trump was his usual ranting, raving lunatic self - a two-year old with a beaver tied to his head. Pelosi took him down like a school teacher to a kindergartner...

Schumer: “ elections have consequences Mr. President.”

Trump: “ that’s right and that’s why the country is doing so well.”

I still get a chuckle out of that. Lol

85% of the rest of America got a big belly laugh out of that nonsense....

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Trump was his usual ranting, raving lunatic self - a two-year old with a beaver tied to his head. Pelosi took him down like a school teacher to a kindergartner...

By stuttering and not looking him in the eye and talking under her breath, yeah, some takedown. Lol

You can say anything what about Trump, like him or not, but one thing I definitely respect of any man or woman is with you like a purse or not you believe in your convictions you look them in the eye anything of that is nothing but a coward. Both showed that. That’s how I was brought up at least.

85% of the rest of America got a big belly laugh out of that nonsense....

I bet and I Trump said,

Schumer: “ elections have consequences Mr. President.”

Trump: “ that’s right and that’s why the country is doing so well.”

Too funny.

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