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Trump lawyers argue Democrats just want to overturn election

They're playing on the emotions of their base where the documented scam artist and pathological liar is suddenly the victim. As always. The biggest victim President in the history of the US.

Pelosi rejected moving forward on impeachment and took heat for it. Add to that the fact that we're less than 10 months away to the election. Talk about dumb, I mean really dumb as a rock type of thinking. A much, much better example of removing a "duly elected President" would be birtherism against Obama.

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Add to that the fact that we're less than 10 months away to the election. 

Is that all? While Trump is obviously unfit to hold office, I almost want him to continue just to see the freak show continue.

While it is clearly enormously embarrassing for Americans, there is a lot of entertainment value for the rest of us.

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If the senators take this bs and dont look at the case itself, and dont make their judgement based upon the facts in front of them, I hope they ALL get voted out of office!

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What Trump lawyers presented is the best and the most accurate description of what is behind all these saga. Some lawyers said many of the senators are previously prosecutors so they know what is what. I am sure if this voting is a non partisan then 95% senators would vote to dismiss this fake case. That will be a the greatest moment of American history. Not just Trump but no President would face it again such a torture, just because the house has an opposition majority. If possible Adam Schiff should be prosecuted for his lies.

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They're playing on the emotions of their base where the documented scam artist and pathological liar is suddenly the victim.

Well, the Democrats did the same thing, playing to their base, lying and as usual making sure to embellish partial parts and cherry-picking of the facts.

As always. The biggest victim President in the history of the US.

Hey, the Democrats were stupid enough to impeach him on flimsy charges. But you guys think he should just lay down and take it and just not respond or fight them....yeah, liberals would think that.

Pelosi rejected moving forward on impeachment and took heat for it.

Add to that the fact that we're less than 10 months away to the election. Talk about dumb, I mean really dumb as a rock type of thinking. A much, much better example of removing a "duly elected President" would be birtherism against Obama.

They’re actually helping Trump and it’s even more apparent now. Keep it up Dems.

https://www.kcrg.com/content/news/Poll-President-Trumps-popularity-grows-among-Iowa-Republicans-565088722.html

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Today was the first time the American people were able to get the other side of this case. Schiff was called out time and again for what is so blatantly obvious- his pathological quest to get Trump through the use of lies, half truths, slander, and hate filled rage.

Schiff is no longer able to hide behind the one sided and corrupt process that he ran in the House. He is been exposed for all of the lies he has been telling about Trump for the past three years that have time after time been proven false. His latest lie was that Trump told Senators that they would have their heads on spikes if they didn’t support him. For all of the Dems scandalous accusations of wrongdoing they are demonstrably false or have a alternative completely lawful explanation.

By the time the Schiff Show is over Dems are going to want his head on a pike.

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The traitorous, treacherous senators tone-deaf to the truth and ignoring the indisputable facts of Trump's impeachable abuse of office and his egregious obstruction of Congress are writing for themselves a chapter of shame in the history of the republic. Hans Christian Andersen couldn't have made this up! Oh, he did!

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Today was the first time the American people were able to get the other side of this case.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! The 'other side of the case' has been blared loud and long every single day and every single night via Faux News, Twitter, and the Russian trolls on this site.

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Democrats just want to overturn election

True.

They're playing on the emotions of their base where the documented scam artist and pathological liar is suddenly the victim.

The pathological liar here is Schiff.

The biggest victim President in the history of the US.

True! There's never been another president more unfairly treated by the press and the Democrats.

Adam Schiff should be prosecuted for his lies.

He can't be prosecuted, he hasn't made his lies under oath.

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I watched the opening arguments from Trump's team, and I too am wondering why didn't the dems mention certain stuff from the phone transcript? They presented a redacted version and not the entire transcript. And why do the dems say Ukraine's president felt pressured to do Trump a favor when the president of Ukraine said there never was a quid pro quo and that he never felt pressured. No where in the transcript was there signs of bribery or a quid pro quo. Obviously the dems are trying to overturn an election and interfere with another.

They're playing on the emotions of their base

People keep saying "his base" like it's a small faction or something. Trump won the electoral votes and only lost the popular by 3 million out of 100's of millions of people. 65 mill to 62 mill. Almost split. "His base" is pretty huge.

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So Donny had a long conversation with Parnas, someone he says he doesn’t know, about removing the Ambassador, and somehow that’s alright.

A liar is a liar is a liar.

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So Donny had a long conversation with Parnas, someone he says he doesn’t know, about removing the Ambassador, and somehow that’s alright.

A liar is a liar is a liar.

It’s ok, he doesn’t have to tell the press anything and remember one thing, Trump wasn’t sworn under oath or had a deposition, so Democrats have a zero case on this. He is allowed to have the people he wants and trusts in his cabinet, he’s the President.

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Question - Where's Schiff's evidence of Trump-Russia collusion that he has insisted he has?

Is he never going to present it? Now would be a good time, lol

" I don't know if that's true" but I'll enter it into evidence on the Senate floor.

Schiff is both a joke and a psychopath.

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Trump won the electoral votes ( 304 - 227 ) and only lost the popular by 3 million

That was due to nutty California.

Speaking of California, California Congressman Adam Schiff starts his sentence with “I don’t know if this is true...” It would be considerably more accurate and truthful if this psychopath started with the words “I don’t care if this is true...”.

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The House of Representatives has laid out a very clear case of wrongdoing by Trump, even without additional witnesses. Yet, Trump’s defense lawyers say the evidence is flimsy and that the prosecutors have not met the burden of proof. That’s exactly why the Senators should vote to allow more witnesses to testify and for the White House to turn over requested documents - to fill in whatever gaps are missing. Trump and the Republicans don’t want that because it would likely corroborate all the evidence of wrongdoing already presented. Republicans want it both ways - the evidence is flimsy but we don’t want to allow more witnesses or turn over documents.

Meanwhile, the biggest tragedy will be if the Senate allows Trump to continue obstructing justice by ignoring subpoenas and all requests for documents by the House with impunity. If this happens, we can no longer call America a democracy, because no branch of government could ever investigate the President’s wrongdoing. That would effectively make the President a dictator and would be the day America ceases to be a democracy as we know it.

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It’s ok, 

No it’s not.

doesn’t have to tell the press anything and remember one thing, Trump wasn’t sworn under oath or had a deposition

He has to tell the truth, whether under oath or not, is that too much to expect of a President or a democracy??

And he doesn’t go under oath, too chicken to do that.

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Bottom line is that Trump won 30 of 50 states. The Dems have never accepted Hillary’s loss. She was so sure of victory she didn’t bother asking for votes in the mid-west and Pennsylvania. So here we are 3 years into their impeachment crusade. They said it themselves- they have to impeach Trump to prevent him from being re-elected. Two more conservative Supreme Court justices and the Dems ability to subvert the US Constitution comes to a screeching halt. I can understand their craven desperation.

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if this psychopath started with the words “I don’t care if this is true...”.

Actually Donny generally says ‘ I don’t know’ when caught lying, again and again.

So that’s the psychopath’s standard response.

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The headline is true, but that doesn't mean the charges are false.

No district attorney would have brought this case forward because the jury will not convict. It is politically motivated.

I've never met any politician who wasn't a liar. Trump is just terrible at it and refuses to admit it.

It also doesn't mean that voters in the middle care at all about the trial.

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The House of Representatives has laid out a very clear case of wrongdoing by Trump

Riiiiiiiiiight. That's what the Democrats and most of the media is telling you. Read the transcript.

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...why didn't the dems mention certain stuff from the phone transcript? 

My memory may be faulty, or I've not caught up with the latest developments, but I thought that only a summary of Trump's "perfect phone call had been made public while the full unredacted verbatim transcript still sat securely in the secret server along with all the other dirt, illegalities and FUBATs Trump has been hiding from public scrutiny. Am I right, or am I right?

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Riiiiiiiiiight. That's what the Democrats and most of the media is telling you. Read the transcript.

And what about all the other evidence produced? What’s your thoughts on that?

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No it’s not.

Oh, yeah? Sorry, liberals lost on this, he’s going to be acquitted and there’s not a darn thing liberals can do about.

He has to tell the truth, whether under oath or not, is that too much to expect of a President or a democracy??

Gosh, I wish you would hold that same position about Schiff.

And he doesn’t go under oath, too chicken to do that.

Chicken? The Dems don’t want to put up Biden in exchange for Bolton, the Dems could have called Bolton to testify...yeah, it would have taken awhile and the Dems wanted to shove this through like a sausage in casing, but they didn’t, they are the prosecution and if they can’t make the case they can’t ask the Jury (Senate) to do their job for them. But I’m just happy they’re making it easier for this President on all levels.

Thank you, Schiff.

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The defense was very effective and destroyed many of the falsehoods and misleading statements of the last few days.

good start let’s see what’s next. Of course Romney will poke his head up a little more each day from now. He and Collins will likely abandon ship at the most self serving time but we will get 1-2 Dems coming our way too.

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My memory may be faulty, or I've not caught up with the latest developments, but I thought that only a summary of Trump's "perfect phone call had been made public while the full unredacted verbatim transcript still sat securely in the secret server along with all the other dirt, illegalities and FUBATs Trump has been hiding from public scrutiny. Am I right, or am I right?

Well the version the dems used in their opening arguments show no crime being committed by Trump. While the dems were holed up in the bunker, they had enough time to get the evidence they needed. If not, they should have waited before filing the articles of impeachment. Bit as everybody knows, this all about getting Trump out office by any and all means necessary. The dems have no shame when they should.

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Sorry, liberals lost on this, 

Sorry, as usual you are wrong, with Donny being proved a liar again, looks like the ones who stand for the truth are winning.

Gosh, I wish you would hold that same position about Schiff.

Hate to break it to you, Shiff is not the President, Donny is . And the one caught lying again and again is Donny.

Chicken

Totally chicken, and we are talking about Donny going under oath, why is it that he develops bonespurs every time he needs to do something that requires courage.

Thank you, Schiff.

come November, lots of Republicans will be saying that.

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Where's Schiff's evidence of Trump-Russia collusion that he has insisted he has?

I wonder what evidence would be good enough to convince Trump's hard core supporters. Certainly far more than world ordinarily be required in a criminal case.

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documented scam artist and pathological liar is suddenly the victim. As always. The biggest victim President in the history of the US.

Pelosi rejected moving forward on impeachment and took heat for it.

Thats funny, because the way I have witnessed this show from day 1 of the inauguration, the Dems have been butt hurt about losing and hell bent on getting their freak show and policies back in play.

Train done left, deal with it. Nobody wants or believes in that crap anymore.

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Schiff claiming the whole thing was just attacking him and the Dems.

No it was strongly disputing what he said, showing cases where he lied and proving using his own evidence how his statements were incorrect.

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The House of Representatives has laid out a very clear case of wrongdoing by Trump, even without additional witnesses.

I think everyone can agree the phone call was a bit inappropriate, but it doesn’t rise to the level of impeachment. That doesn’t fall under high crimes and misdemeanors. Because if you go by that then if the Republicans would’ve impeached Obama for talking to the Iranians and making a shabby treaty backdoor deal with them the Democrats wouldn’t stand for that and you know it

Yet, Trump’s defense lawyers say the evidence is flimsy and that the prosecutors have not met the burden of proof.

They really didn’t, this is the fifth time we have been going through this over the last three years with the Democrats trying to get the president on whatever they can fine and nothing evil with the help of the FBI and 19 angry Democrat donor lawyers.

That’s exactly why the Senators should vote to allow more witnesses to testify and for the White House to turn over requested documents -

it’s not their job to do the job of the House Democrats, the Senate acts as a jury and they hear the evidence brought on by the prosecution which are the Democrats and if they can’t make their case, that’s on them.

to fill in whatever gaps are missing. Trump and the Republicans don’t want that because it would likely corroborate all the evidence of wrongdoing already presented. Republicans want it both ways - the evidence is flimsy but we don’t want to allow more witnesses or turn over documents.

at the same time the Democrats don’t want Hunter or Joe Biden to testify either, Schumer said it is a non-negotiable deal, they don’t want to bring forward the whistleblower, the very person that is accusing trump and will not even allow trump to address his accuser, so the Democrats can’t say anything on that, they equally don’t want to handover a witness(es)

Meanwhile, the biggest tragedy will be if the Senate allows Trump to continue obstructing justice by ignoring subpoenas and all requests for documents by the House with impunity.

Oh, speaking of overturning evidence..

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/442754-five-fights-over-executive-privilege

so this is definitely not unique to Trump or his administration.

If this happens, we can no longer call America a democracy, because no branch of government could ever investigate the President’s wrongdoing. That would effectively make the President a dictator and would be the day America ceases to be a democracy as we know it

at the same time, because the Democrats wanted to impeach this president 19 minutes after he was sworn in, they use this impeachment so loosely, it pretty much at this point has no meaning now, so if there is ever a democrat president, a Republican Congress can impeach the president on the flimsiest of evidence and now that can happen with total impunity thanks to the Democrats. Even former retired Republican congressman William hurt who is no fan of the president could see that this is a flimsy case and couldn’t vote for impeaching the President.

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Sorry, as usual you are wrong,

No, I’m right, Trump won’t be convicted or removed, ask Schumer, he even said so yesterday, I’m really happy even a guy like that can speak the truth every once in awhile.

Hate to break it to you, Shiff is not the President,

OMG!!! Thank the lord for that and guess what, he never will be! Lol

Totally chicken, and we are talking about Donny going under oath, why is it that he develops bonespurs every time he needs to do something that requires courage.

Ouch! I’m sure your words hurt the President. ROFL!

come November, lots of Republicans will be saying that.

Lol, yeah, ok...lol

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/nov/19/impeachment-fatigue-a-real-risk-for-democrats/

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/471723-independents-souring-on-impeachment-underscores-risk-for-democrats

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Today was a win for team Trump. Latest polls say most Americans are against Trump being removed. I'll pop some beers open and get Schiff faced.

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this all about getting Trump out office

Don't worry Trump people. Trump won't leave! Ever!! Even if he loses in the election by a landslide he will refuse to leave and his 2ANRAEvangelical supporters will protect him with their weaponry. Trump will continue to be president no matter what (even if he loses in the election)

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Today was the first time the American people were able to get the other side of this case.

The Trump/Putin side...

Schiff was called out time and again for what is so blatantly obvious- his pathological quest to get Trump through the use of lies, half truths, slander, and hate filled rage.

Or in other words, facts...

By the time the Schiff Show is over Dems are going to want his head on a pike.

Thanks for confirming what Trump said was true...

I think everyone can agree the phone call was a bit inappropriate,

Your Sainted Leader, Dimwit Donnie can't...

Well the version the dems used in their opening arguments show no crime being committed by Trump.

Which Dershowitz, Starr, and Graham all said in 1999 you didn't need for impeachment...

Stand by for an all-out whine and rant show from Donnie's mob lawyers. All whine all the time...

And more meltdowns from "the loop" as they sit and wait to see if they'll be called under oath - and forced to admit the truth or lie under oath and join the rest of the Trump criminal cabal already sitting in their bunks at Club Fed...

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Or in other words, facts...

Factually boring to say the least.

Your Sainted Leader, Dimwit Donnie can't...

And still won’t be convicted or removed.

Well the version the dems used in their opening arguments show no crime being committed by Trump. 

Which Dershowitz, Starr, and Graham all said in 1999 you didn't need for impeachment...

Stand by for an all-out whine and rant show from Donnie's mob lawyers. All whine all the time...

Ahhh, you’re just angry this side show will be over in a few weeks

And more meltdowns from "the loop" as they sit and wait to see if they'll be called under oath - and forced to admit the truth or lie under oath and join the rest of the Trump criminal cabal already sitting in their bunks at Club Fed...

The meltdowns are coming for the Democrats they continue to wait about witnesses in Bolton in Mulvaney and that will never happen. Get more tissue.

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Don't worry Trump people. Trump won't leave! Ever!! Even if he loses in the election by a landslide he will refuse to leave and his 2ANRAEvangelical supporters will protect him with their weaponry. Trump will continue to be president no matter what (even if he loses in the election)

Any proof of that or is it just conjecture

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Dems claimed only Ukraine aid was withheld. Defense gave numerous other examples of aid being withheld. Plus relevant testimony from several Dem witness that aid as a whole was under review. So that statement is false.

Dems: stop attacking Schiff!

we didn’t attack Schiff we showed what his team said was untrue. Which is what an effective defense does.

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LT Gen Kellogg was on the call and is also the boss of Vindman who didn’t like the policy. Well the president makes foreign policy so too bad.

General is also the boss of Williams lady who told no one of the call until after impeachment was announced. Then she “remembered” that the call actually bothered her in the past.

lt Gen Kellogg, military hero, had no problem with the content of the call. Who wasn’t called to Schiffs basement? One guess.....

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Any proof of that or is it just conjecture

In March 2018, Trump praised Chinese President Xi Jinping for having done away with term limits in his country.

"He's now president for life. President for life. No, he's great," Trump said at the time. "And look, he was able to do that. I think it's great. Maybe we'll have to give that a shot some day."

(Trump/news source)

Yes, proof. Also, Trump talks about constant millions (with an "M") of voter fraud. Yes, Trump is staying put no matter what and his NRA2AEvangalical people will protect him with violence.

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In March 2018, Trump praised Chinese President Xi Jinping for having done away with term limits in his country.

"He's now president for life. President for life. No, he's great," Trump said at the time. "And look, he was able to do that. I think it's great. Maybe we'll have to give that a shot some day."

So it's just conjecture.

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No you’re not,.

Yes, I am, so if you don’t believe it, keep your eyes on the acquittal, he won’t be removed and denying it won’t change the inevitable. Continue to watch and how we will rejoice.

A low bar, a total lack of standards might be the nutters philosophy in life, but only problem is Donny standards are so low he crawls under that very low bar.

I see...lol

Again hate to break it you , he’s not running.

Thank God and he never will.

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I think everyone can agree the phone call was a bit inappropriate, but it doesn’t rise to the level of impeachment. That doesn’t fall under high crimes and misdemeanors. Because if you go by that then if the Republicans would’ve impeached Obama for talking to the Iranians and making a shabby treaty backdoor deal with them

I guess you don't know the difference between exerting pressure in pursuit of American interests and exerting pressure in pursuit of personal political favors.

The latter is clearly an abuse of office. The former is not.

And still won’t be convicted or removed.

Always your final argument. In other words, you don't care if your man is a crook.

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this is the fifth time we have been going through this over the last three years 

What are the previous four times?

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That’s just what the Dems call “parody”. Of course Trump knows he had to leave in Jan 2025.

so schiff still claiming he doesn’t know who the whistleblower is. But strangely won’t release the testimony of the IG Atkinson, even to the senate. Why?

But liberal news says there is some Lev Parnas tape? Released the next day direct to the media. IG testimony not leaked, must be damning to the Dems and Schiff.

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His latest lie was that Trump told Senators that they would have their heads on spikes if they didn’t support him. 

And we all know that Republican senators have waaaaay more integrity than to follow Trump in lockstep. It's a fact!

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So it's just conjecture.

No, Trump promised to stay in power no matter what. He will not leave the WH until he dies.

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Always your final argument. In other words, you don't care if your man is a crook.

how? You’re always innocent until proven guilty and he hasn’t been charged and the Democrats haven’t proven their case, so I don’t know what you’re talking about.

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Fine, and in 2025 if he doesn’t leave, Dems will have finally found an actual crime! But for now let’s focus on the impeachment trial presentation as it is our turn now.

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Just like the Republicans, project, deflect & lie. Obviously the lawyers have ripped a page right out of Gen. Bonespurs's playbook.

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Let's see their evidence - where's the empirical proof to back up this theory they pulled out of their posterior? Oh, in Ukraine, is it?

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Trump lawyers argue Democrats just want to overturn election

Well the point of impeachment and removal is in large part intended to overturn the results of an election.

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overturn the results of an election

Then who will be president? But again, Trump will refuse to leave in any case whether it's impeachment of defeat. And his NRA2AEvangelicalAntiAbortion soldiers will defend him and will die for him.

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No, Trump promised to stay in power no matter what. He will not leave the WH until he dies.

It’s this kind of crazy thinking that leads to the coup attempt that is going on in America right now.

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It’s this kind of crazy thinking that leads to the coup attempt that is going on in America right now.

Yes, and Trump started this thinking, not Hillary. Hillary said that it's up to the people to decide president and she conceded right away. Don't blame Hillary. Again, Trump wants to stay in power forever. And his defenders will fight for him to the death. Better stay safe in Japan because the USA is going to become like one big Mississippi.

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Yes, and Trump started this thinking, not Hillary. Hillary said that it's up to the people to decide president and she conceded right away.

Actually Hillary waited to the next day to concede; she has been making statements every other month implying that she is the rightful president. She started the whole collusion #resistance with her funding of the fake Steele dossier. The Dems cannot accept they lost the election- that is dangerous in a democracy.

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Actually Hillary waited to the next day to concede

So? Trump will never? And when he won he still thinks he was cheated. Trump said around 10 million people voted fraudulently.

She started the whole collusion

Trump people think Hillary made child porn

fake Steele dossier.

So what if Trump likes golden showers. It's his business. As long as there are no children involved.

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bass: Well, the Democrats did the same thing

And so did the Republicans.

Hey, the Democrats were stupid enough

The Republicans were stupid enough as well.

Keep it up Dems.

Keep it up Repubs.

Thanks for responding to my post. I feel like we really accomplished something here.

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An absolutely great start in picking apart the democrats sham of an impeachment. President Trump's legal team only needed two hours to totally destroy the Schumer-Schiff Show. Americans witnessed the liberal resistance get politically droned today.

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