North Korea fires 2 suspected ballistic missiles in 6th launch this year

This is like guns in the US, i.e. hard to find fresh words to comment with.

Only the 6th? Pfft.

Sounds like they are behind schedule.

Looks like North Korea needs some aid so they're ramping up their saber rattling so they can later request aid as a criteria for stopping missile tests.

If North Korea isn't following international protocols of warning of missile tests -- never mind ignoring the UN -- seems like a fine opportunity to assess Japan's anti-missile systems.

Ukraine/Russia hogging the limelight.

Russia ratchets up tensions in Eastern Europe, Xi dos the same with Taiwan, and "Little Rocket Man" adds his two cents - all with the hope of getting their BFF Trump or a similar tyrant-friendly Repub back in the WH in 2024....

Asia is starting to look like a mess. Can we push Taiwan, Japan, S. Korea away from these guys and move closer to Hawaii?

Curiouser and curiouser. Here’s China’s chance to prove itself on the world stage, but it doesn’t do anything even on its own border.

@stoermscrow

Here’s China’s chance to prove itself on the world stage, but it doesn’t do anything even on its own border.

China doesn't get involved in weapons development of other countries.

For example, the most powerful conventional ballistic missile in history is ROK's(9 ton warhead), yet you don't see China protesting or trying to stop ROK from deploying it.

Likewise China remains silent to Japan's effort to develop hypersonic missiles(Japan doesn't have ballistic missiles).

It's a shame that the average person in N. Korea must suffer because Kim demands a military he does not need.

They could join the world community and bring prosperity to their country.

@The Avenger

Kim demands a military he does not need.

He does. Remember that the ROK is in top 5 in the world in terms of war fighting capability and claims all of North Korea as its own territory. North Korean military estimates they would last 1 month max if the South decided to force a unification by invasion.

The NK nuclear missiles are this deterrent against this ROK invasion.

They could join the world community and bring prosperity to their country.

And Kim could lose his little kingdom and his life if he opened up. That's why he won't/can't.

China doesn't get involved in weapons development of other countries.

For example, the most powerful conventional ballistic missile in history is ROK's(9 ton warhead), yet you don't see China protesting or trying to stop ROK from deploying it.

Likewise China remains silent to Japan's effort to develop hypersonic missiles(Japan doesn't

Well, that was easy to prove wrong....

Land-based medium range weapons threaten security of region, experts warn. The Chinese military will not sit idly and allow the United States to deploy land-based medium range missiles in Asia-Pacific countries, 

https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/2019-11/01/content_37519970.htm

@Busby

Well, that was easy to prove wrong....

You didn't.

China opposes two things.

China opposes 3rd countries(ie USA) deploying weapons around its neighbors. China doesn't oppose its neighbors developing weapons by themselves. This is why China opposes US deployment of intermediate missile in Japan, but doesn't oppose Japanese development of similar capability missiles.

China opposes anybody selling weapons to Taiwan, which China considers its own territory.

China doesn't get involved in weapons development of other countries.

Well, that was easy to prove wrong....

You didn't.

Hmmmm.....

The Chinese embassy's charge d'affaires, Wang Xining, said Australia would become the "naughty guy" if it procures the submarines, which are capable of stealthy, long-duration missions. Nuclear-powered submarines are designed to launch long-range attacks, Wang argued in an interview with The Guardian. "So who are you going to attack? You are no longer a peace lover, a peace defender, you become a sabre wielder in certain form," said Wang, who is China's top representative in Australia...

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20211119-australia-mocks-silly-china-criticism-of-nuclear-subs

In case you didn't know the ROK has the world's most powerful conventional ballistic missile in history, only North Korea protested about it.

https://s.japanese.joins.com/JArticle/283716?sectcode=220&servcode=200

米国も断念したのに韓国が開発…北の地下核施設破壊する「秘密兵器」

ところでミサイルの名称に高威力という単語を付けた理由について、匿名の消息筋は「戦術核に次ぐ威力を持ったため」と打ち明けた。複数の消息筋の話を総合すると、先月１５日の試験発射で高威力弾道ミサイルの弾頭重量は８～９トンに達した。

米国やロシアの大陸間弾道ミサイル（ＩＣＢＭ）の弾頭重量は概ね１トン前後だ。昨年７月に文大統領がＡＤＤを訪問した際にこのミサイルをめぐり「世界最高水準の弾頭重量を備えた弾道ミサイル」と話したのはうそではなかった。

6 launches in less than 4 weeks this year.

What is Pyongyang up to, burning lots of money away when its people are looking for enough food to eat?

Could such quality and quantity of missiles scare or thwart the west by any chance? Hardly..

The Chinese embassy's charge d'affaires, Wang Xining, said Australia would become the "naughty guy" if it procures the submarines, which are capable of stealthy, long-duration missions. Nuclear-powered submarines are designed to launch long-range attacks, Wang argued in an interview with The Guardian. "So who are you going to attack? You are no longer a peace lover, a peace defender, you become a sabre wielder in certain form," said Wang, who is China's top representative in Australia...

Not really about the North Korean Missile launch, which show that they seem flush with cash if they can afford to waste so many in tests.

The comment by the Chinese about Australia getting submarines similar to those China already has itself, and saying "who are you going to attack, your no longer a peace lover" Shows that China with Nuclear powered Subs and with long range land based ballistic missiles, (Australia has none of those and no plans to develop any) is obviously not a peace loving nation and must have plans on attacking one or more nations. Pot calls Kettle black!

China needs to either disarm to prove its peaceful intentions or remain quiet on Australia exercising a sovereign right to determine what ships it needs in its navy. China meanwhile is silent on NK missile development and its plans to develop its own nuclear powered subs.

"As part of its efforts to enhance its capability to launch ballistic missiles from submarines without detection, the DPRK is pursuing the development of nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarines,"

https://www.nbr.org/publication/a-race-for-nuclear-powered-submarines-on-the-korean-peninsula/

China, always the hypocrite. Do as we say, not as we do. We are allowed and you are not.

Armchair Generals.

n case you didn't know the ROK has the world's most powerful conventional ballistic missile in history, only North Korea protested about it.

So?

You said: "China doesn't get involved in weapons development of other countries."

I gave two examples where China criticized US Intermediate range missile deployment and Australia's acquiring nuclear-powered submarines...

So you were wrong - just admit it...

@Busby

Hmmmm.....

That's China's wolf warrior diplomat speaking his personal opinion.

China hasn't officially opposed Australia having nuclear submarines; what China opposes is transfer of HEU fuel enriched higher than 20%, because all US and UK submarines use 80~90% enriched uranium and China considers such transfer a violation of NPT, while the US's claiming it didn't for propulsion purpose, but that's debatable.

China has been quiet about the ROK's nuclear submarine program because that program involves use of 20% LEU fuel and international transfer of 20% LEU fuel doesn't violate NPT.

Apparently, North Korea is trying to perfect the know-how of building short- / long-range cruise missiles. If North Korea had perfected that know-how it would mean the expensive U.S.-made AEGIS missile defense systems had become meaningless and useless. Russia and China are said to already possess such missiles.

Military technology seems to be progressing rapidly, especially with the advent of IA technology, making deployment of large contingents of troops in overseas bases superfluous. Thus, building an air base for a U.S. Marine Corps air squadron is nothing but nonsense.

@Busby

I gave two examples where China criticized US Intermediate range missile deployment

US intermediate range missile is the case of a 3rd country deploying its offensive weapons on China's neighbors. China does not oppose Japan developing and deploying missiles of similar capability. Yes, Japan has long range and hypersonic missile development programs. When was the last time you heard Chinese opposition to Japanese long-range hypersonic missile programs? You didn't. Why? Because it is Japan's sovereign right and China's policy is not to interfere.

and Australia's acquiring nuclear-powered submarines...

1) Show me where China's foreign ministry opposed the deal.

2) The Australian nuclear submarine program as it currently stands has NPT violation concerns.

just admit it...

It is you who needs to admit you were mistaken.

https://www.defensenews.com/industry/techwatch/2020/03/13/japan-unveils-its-hypersonic-weapons-plans/

Japan unveils its hypersonic weapons plans

In a Japanese-language document published on the Acquisition, Technology and Logistics Agency website, the government said two classes of standoff hypersonic systems will be deployed — the Hypersonic Cruise Missile (HCM) and the Hyper Velocity Gliding Projectile (HVGP).

Hmmmm.....

That's China's wolf warrior diplomat speaking his personal opinion.

Who are you kidding? China's diplomats don't speak their personal opinion in public - Xi wouldn't stand for it...

He was China's Ambassador to Australia - the senior Chinese diplomat in-country...speaking to a major publication on the record...

Your statement that "China doesn't get involved in weapons development of other countries" was proven flat out incorrect....

Again, just admit your mistakes...rather than digging your hole deeper...

@Busby

China's diplomats don't speak their personal opinion in public

They do. The foreign ministry is telling its diplomats to watch what they say because they are out of control.

https://thediplomat.com/2022/01/is-china-putting-wolf-warriors-on-a-leash/

Is China Putting ‘Wolf Warriors’ on a Leash?

Recent signs indicate that Beijing wants to moderate – but not abandon – the assertive tone of its diplomats.

On December 20, 2021, former Chinese ambassador to the U.S. Cui Tiankai delivered a biting keynote address to a symposium co-hosted by the China Institute of International Studies in Beijing. In front of assembled dignitaries including Wang Yi, China’s foreign minister and state councilor, Cui criticized the current state of China’s diplomacy, warning against “carelessness, laziness, and incompetence.” He admonished his fellow diplomats to “always have the country at large in mind, and not always think about being an internet celebrity.”

The comments were a thinly-veiled dig at the increasingly sharp-edged messaging emerging from China over the past several years, as its diplomats have embraced a uniquely aggressive approach now widely known as “wolf warrior” diplomacy.

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"China doesn't get involved in weapons development of other countries" was proven flat out incorrect....

I repeat, you show me where Chinese foreign ministry issued a statement opposing Australia's nuclear submarine program.

I repeat, you show me where Chinese foreign ministry issued a statement opposing Australia's nuclear submarine program.

I did - three times. Chinese diplomats don't speak "on their own"....especially to major Western media outlets...if you think so you are truly uninformed...

ballistic missiles into the sea

into the sea, again. I think they're secretly fighing the Kaiju

crippling U.S.-led sanctions

seem not to be crippling after all, vis-á-vis missile tech anyway....

Eating, love, care, and empathy for its people. This dictatorship doesn't understand what's important nor how wonderful life can be.

Basically throwing money into the sea. Not like we should care or even try to stop them. If they want to ruin themselves, be my guest.

Little Rocket Man at it again.

Lets all hope there is an underground resistance movement that rises up and assassinates Kim and as many generals as they can get - if the US is unwilling/unable to do the favor.

Most advanced countries in hypersonic missile technology.

第一 Russia

第二 China

第三 North Korea.

Eating, love, care, and empathy for its people. This dictatorship doesn't understand what's important nor how wonderful life can be.

The regime knows that without powerful offensive weapons, the life of the entire population is hanging by a thread due to the USA threat.

North Korea fires 2 suspected ballistic missiles in 6th launch this year

NK is just being NK. Where is the news?

North Korea is a look-at-me country.We should ignore them.

Like the past NK Dictators said: "who is going to stop me?"