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Shanghai revives after two-month COVID lockdown, wary of a new one

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NZ and Aussie had nearly two years. Shanghai is lucky.

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Chinese authorities have threatened action against critics of its COVID policy, which they say aims to avoid the millions of deaths caused by the virus around the world. The United States alone has recorded about a million.

Sounds like China values lives of its citizens,

RodneyToday  07:19 am JST

NZ and Aussie had nearly two years. Shanghai is lucky.

Good point. And China's economy had positive growth throughout the crisis unlike NZ and Australia to boot.

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Sounds like China values lives of its citizens,

Not really not, if that were the case they would have put forward measures that do not require them to hide the total number of covid deaths by not reporting anybody that died while having another disease, neither to disrupt medical services causing secondary deaths because of ti and specially would not need to trample on the human rights and economic activity of the populations under the outbreak.

Other countries have similar or even lower death rates than China (once the reporting is adapted to the chinese way) without having to take these exaggerated measures that have been criticized by scientific/medical authorities.

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Shanghai's government published a "thank you" letter to residents, with medical staff, police, the army, journalists and "grass-roots" cadres among many getting special mention for their contributions.

Did the NZ or Australian governments publish thank you letters to their residents? Sad how some countries put capitalism before lives.

Not really not, if that were the case they would have put forward measures that do not require them to hide the total number of covid deaths by not reporting anybody that died while having another disease,

People buy into many conspiracy theories.

The fact is, as stated in the article, the US has suffered over 1 million deaths. China's successful zero covid strategy aims to save that number of deaths and more; unless you have statistical data showing otherwise; which of course you do not.

Other countries have similar or even lower death rates than China (once the reporting is adapted to the chinese way) without having to take these exaggerated measures that have been criticized by scientific/medical authorities.

Where, Burundi?!

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People buy into many conspiracy theories.

The experts and global health care authorities have criticized the Chinese approach, there is no theory about it. Other countries have gotten better results without killing people by not letting them get access to hospitals. There is nothing theoretical about this evidence nor it requires anything but what the CCP has already demonstrated as their priority which is control of the population, for example like the suppression of all forms of communications from Shanghai where people protests the measures.

Where, Burundi?!

Actually several dozens, once the reports are made in the same way (eliminating deaths where other diseases are present) China is not even on the top twenty of low death rates.

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Shanghai used to be 'safe' from the CCP. Unless you spoke out against the government, your life wasn't all that different from people in west, lifestyle included. The worst parts of their regime happened to dissidents and other people that 'deserved' it. And then the lockdowns happened. Now they've had a taste of true oppression, and the CCP unwittingly undermined part of their regime's support base.

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The city's handling of the lockdown provoked rare protests, with people at times banging pots and pans outside their windows to show discontent. 

These protesters thankfully, are alive because of the zero covid policy, in contrast to other countries that suffered thousands and thousands of deaths.

The experts and global health care authorities have criticized the Chinese approach, 

Chinese experts and Chinese health care authorities determine the best approach for China. And they decided zero covid is the best approach to limit Covid infections, and global experts also agree zero covid is the best policy to limit infections. Very simple.

Actually several dozens, once the reports are made in the same way (eliminating deaths where other diseases are present) China is not even on the top twenty of low death rates.

This is false, as sources show.

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"Shouldn't those who wield great power and can arbitrarily inflict harm on others be held accountable?" one user commented.

In China the lockdowns were mandated by people who wouldn't be locked down themselves. There was no choice, unless the state goons showed up and took you from your in-house quarantine force-ably.

In the US, the lockdowns were NOT mandatory. People were free to act like adults, manage their risks or be stupid. Plus, if the state tried to come to many homes and force people out, there's the 2nd amendment. From time to time, residents of the US are forced from their homes by the govt. Floods, chemical spills, Cat5 hurricanes. Even in a Cat5 hurricane, some people choose to stay behind and take their chances, but they've been warned and given the facts. Still, it is their choice to leave or stay and possibly die. In the US, people actually own the land they live on. Ownership brings some specific rights that the govt honors, so a certain point.

The people who have died in the US from Covid were infected NOT by the state coming and taking them to quarantine locations, but by either their own actions or the actions of their loved-ones providing support. There's a vast difference - call it a cultural difference. In the US, the rights of the individual are protected - for good or bad.

Does China have a bill of rights that overrules the state? I see what Article 4 says, but if that is the truth, then why are the Uighur population detained? I really like this part of Article 4:

The people of all nationalities have the freedom to use and develop their own spoken and written languages, and to preserve or reform their own ways and customs.

Tibetians and Uighurs would disagree that is being upheld. Some people in Macau and Kong Kong would take issue with it too.

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Sounds like China values lives of its citizens,

Our Mama at age 86 broke her arm last week in Shanghai. She stumbled and fell. The local hospital would not admit her unless an adult relative agreed to stay with her and take care of her in the hospital. So my brother in law had to take time off work and agree to stay with Mama and take care of her. If he was not available the hospital would not treat her for her broken arm. Even when there was no pandemic this was a problem for us. Family members would have to bring her food, change her bedding and do the things hospital staff would do anywhere else. Without a car that meant walking and riding buses with food, laundry and the like. Back and fourth from home to the hospital every day. We would buy her medications in the US and send them to China because she often could not obtain the meds she needs in China. That is how the Chinese "care" for their own. Real life, not your internet fantasy world.

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Chinese experts and Chinese health care authorities determine the best approach for China. 

It was a political decision made by the Central Committee, not a scientific decision. And because the CCP can never admit a mistake it will be enforced rigidly even if the science says another path is preferred.

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Old ladies in China are Stealing Shanghai's Lockdown Supplies https://youtu.be/nRHyFmZfpiQ

Then deny it. They are caught removing govt labels placed on the crates with aid food. There are other videos when a different group of old ladies goes into a CCP community location where they are stockpiling free aid rather than giving it to their neighbors. CCP govt graft for everyone to see.

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