South Korea's presidential race puts misogyny in spotlight

South Korea, HK, Taiwan, the Philippines and Indonesia have all had women leaders. 

South Korea has had one female leader who got that position because of her father's reputation, and now she's in prison.

Yes, men have all the power and the money, but they only way a man can come into this world is through a women. A women gives them life, have these men thought about the outrageous pain these women go through as if their organs are being pulled out of them? Do they ever think that in any given moment during the time they were being brought into this world that perhaps their mom could have lost her life at anytime while trying to give them life

Most men are much to weak to handle the multiple rigors of pregnancy, child birth and breast feeding. The men, and they are many indeed, who deny women equality are perhaps rightly insecure in their own manhood. They are not men but selfish babies unwilling to share their toys.

Japanese rightwinger's excuse is that Japan did have woman Tennos.

But woe be upon you if you say you think they ought to have one nowadays.

@Pukey2

What's Japan's (and USA's) excuse?

Japanese rightwinger's excuse is that Japan did have woman Tennos.

Yes, men have all the power and the money, but they only way a man can come into this world is through a women. A women gives them life, have these men thought about the outrageous pain these women go through as if their organs are being pulled out of them? Do they ever think that in any given moment during the time they were being brought into this world that perhaps their mom could have lost her life at anytime while trying to give them life. Totally insane, one guy said if a women wants to have a child it's her choice!!! With that she could have also aborted him and that way he wouldn't have the mindset he has. SO SOME men are blaming the women that brought them into this world for their failures. How could they feel threatened by the very same person that brought them into existence. We should embrace women, respect women and NOT tell them what their roles should be, like wise women should do the same.

@Ossan Korea ranks 102 in the Global Gender Gap report, Japan…120.

Oh dear, back to the drawing board, OssanAmerika.

What Japan lacks in Confucianism, it makes up in other ways. South Korea, HK, Taiwan, the Philippines and Indonesia have all had women leaders. What's Japan's (and USA's) excuse?

@louisferdinandcToday

@Ossan Korea ranks 102 in the Global Gender Gap report, Japan…120.

Korea doesn't rank 102 in the Global Gender Gap report; that figure is based on a data prepared by the gender ministry, a ministry staffed entirely by radical feminists whose sole purpose of existence is to illustrate the supposed plights of women.

So when asked by press if women's rights in Korea was really worse than the likes of Cameroon, Liberia, and Ethiopia, the gender ministry said yes, and the public simply laughed at them and why the conservative presidential candidate has made the closure of Gender Ministry as his top public campaign pledge, and this is why he's beating the liberal candidate among Under 30 voters 2:1 on this single issue.

So when are Korean women marching to get drafted into the military like in Israel? I'm all for gender equality here but I want to see intellectually honest criticisms of the system.

From what I can see, the Korean society has cut-throat competition for men. They are the people who get treated like losers when they can't land a job in one of the chaebols and have no chance of forming a family. That competition forces them to work a lot harder to get ahead in life. The politicians that rise to the top are just a reflection of the society that they come from and women have as big a share as the men in how that society has formed.

Im only vaguely familiar with Korean politics and the current campaign.

But here we have 3 journalists from uber leftist AP claiming sexism is a crucial issue with voters using only anecdotal quotes from a few individuals.

And a 4 year-old photo of a Me Too rally.

Can any Koreans here on JT confirm whether or not misogyny is a crucial issue in the election, or are they far more concerned with things like the economy, an endgame plan for Covid measures, and security, for example?

No campaign issue, however, has caused more debate than Yoon’s vow to abolish the Ministry of Gender Equality and Family, which the candidate says promotes policies unfair to men.

“Because of feminism, men today only have most of the power, instead of all of it. This is discrimination because, as we all know, Webster’s Dictionary defines “discrimination” as “Anything that either doesn’t benefit me directly or in any way benefits someone who isn’t me”. For example, women being able to vote discriminated against men, because we used to be the only ones who could vote. Taking away our right to be the only ones who can vote is discriminatory.”

louisferdinandcToday  08:13 pm JST

@Ossan Korea ranks 102 in the Global Gender Gap report, Japan…120.

Japan doesn't have anywhere near the degree of misogyny because Confucianism still remains strong in South Korea. Ask any South Korean woman.

She said she once twisted the wrist of a male colleague when he tried to touch her backside.

I once saw a man break the nose of a woman who grabbed his butt.

At a supermarket where I worked, I was stacking some canned food and saw the whole thing.

He was with his wife. Wife wandered to another part of the supermarket and the man was minding his own business looking at some cheese products. This stupid woman, probably in her 20s, for whatever reason, decided to flirt with him and when he politely refused her advances, she grabbed his butt.

To her credit, she didn't scream all that loudly when he broke her nose...just a yelp or two. But I pity the cleaning staff who had to clean all that blood from the floor. And you could see her nose bent...like a boxer's broken nose.

Stupid woman.

Men don't like unwanted advances either.

@Ossan Korea ranks 102 in the Global Gender Gap report, Japan…120

touché!

@Ossan Korea ranks 102 in the Global Gender Gap report, Japan…120.

2022 South Korean attitudes towards gender equality are pretty much what Japan's were 50 years ago.

Discrimination is wrong per se; reverse discrimination is still discrimination, ergo wrong.

If both main candidates are taking a similar line I am amazed the smaller parties don’t see an opportunity to garner all those female votes!

didnt say anyone was a victim.

You would pay the person who has the most skill and experience that produces the highest quality work in the highest amount. gender is no part of this whatsoever.

if a person of any gender leaves at 6pm every day or has a 5 year gap in their work history, they would need to overcome that in raw ability of skill to be the person who gets paid more or be assigned the higher title.

there is no "man salary" and "woman salary" by now. But there are some career fields that are populated more by men or by women. Only due to one gender preferring that type of work or career over another.

In other countries, minority ethnic groups and immigrants are targeted by would-be politicians, to gather the votes of the formerly adventageous groups tossed to the margins by neoliberal capitalism. In a more monocultural country such as Korea, women become the target.

Not just women, but also the LGBT. When Moon was running for president, he explicitly said on TV that he opposed homosexuality in response to another candidate who said that gay soldiers were weakening the country’s military. Not to mention Korea's "anti-pride parades".

In Japan, since there are so few foreign others within and women have never been given consideration, people in other nations are blamed.

South Korea has a similar number of foreigners, but that didn't stop the Park administration from raiding hagwons and deporting English teachers en masse, or over 700,000 people from signing a petition to deport Yemeni refugees in Jeju.

He is not wrong. But he’s wrong.

Yeah, men have all the power and the money, but they're the real victims, right?

justifies higher pay for men, insisting they put in longer hours or perform more difficult tasks

He is not wrong. But he’s wrong.

In other countries, minority ethnic groups and immigrants are targeted by would-be politicians, to gather the votes of the formerly adventageous groups tossed to the margins by neoliberal capitalism. In a more monocultural country such as Korea, women become the target. In Japan, since there are so few foreign others within and women have never been given consideration, people in other nations are blamed.

It seems like a much healthier approach would be for people to unite to renew the commons and take back all that has been privatized for the gain of the few.

The men & women also holding “Me, Too” placards, particularly along the perimeter of the marching & chanting crowds, seem to be wearing ‘matching vests’ and masks. Having never been, are all protests in South Korea so organized and controlled?

Headline-photo caption: “Demonstrators supporting the #MeToo movement stage a rally to mark the International Women's Day in Seoul, South Korea, March 8, 2018. For years, the story of South Korean women has been defined by perseverance as they made gradual but steady progress in the workplace and fought against a deeply entrenched culture of misogyny and harassment. (AP Photo/Ahn Young-joon, File)

If this is a topic, then perhaps it’s an actual topic. Woman have the vote too. So instead of coming up with real policies to solve problems facing young people, they are fanning gender conflicts, telling men in their 20s that their difficulties stem from women receiving too many benefits.” Stupid women” , yep having a low birth rate will be helped by further marginalising woman. That’s a zero end plan.

Hong Eun-pyo, a 39-year-old who runs an anti-feminist YouTube channel, justifies higher pay for men, insisting they put in longer hours or perform more difficult tasks. “If they want to reach as high as their male peers and be paid the same wages, they should keep working and not get pregnant,” he said..

His mum must be so proud.

May the best man win.