South Korea, China clash over U.S. missile shield

China doesn't want others to build any defences but they are totally fine firing missiles into those others' regions. Hypocrites.

Make a whole carpet of THAAD from South Korea, to Taiwan and Japan.

The Chinese spokesman told a briefing the THAAD deployment in South Korea "undermines China's strategic security interest".

China's support for NK, its development of nuclear capable missiles, its hypersonic missiles, build up of military, all "undermines South Korea strategic security interest".

Negotiate?

What would happen if nations just shrugged their shoulders at such whining and told the Chinese that good relations with them was not one of their nation's priorities ?

China should stop interfering with Korea's internal affairs.

Anything that annoys China has to be good.

Have they reached "holding my breath until I turn blue " stage yet ?

South Korea is an independent sovereign nation. Deal with it, China!

The Chinese spokesman told a briefing the THAAD deployment in South Korea "undermines China's strategic security interest".

Oh...... And what would that be, China? Will South Korea's defences undermine whatever you have planned to attack Pacific nations in the future?

China can pound sand on this one. South Korea has legitimate security threats from North Korea.

What to do about rouge nuclear armed North Korea is a larger issue. Even if China cooperated on an international deal as it did in the 1990s, Russia would veto anything at the UN.

South Korea has every right to take any actions to secure it's defense from North Korea as well as it's benefactor China. China can take a long walk off a short pier.

Of course the Chinese internet users will be on a massive anti-South Korea ramage shortly.

Who does China think they are? More THAADs please!

China does nothing about North Korea’s nuclear weapons development, and then throws a hissy fit because South Korea wants to keep its defensive missiles. That’s a double standard.

What bothers China most about THAAD is the AN/SPY-2 radar system. It is very powerful and long ranged. From its location in South Korea it can detect things deep inside China and far into space. It is also trailer mounted and very mobile.

Build the shield, ignore the reckless lunatics.

China is bullying Korea, and has been bullying Taiwan and Japan already (shot missiles into Japan's EEZ). The solution is for these three nations to form a firm military alliance and host powerful missiles, both defensive and first-strike, to guard against and warn China and its NK protege.

The words bully & China seem to go hand in hand

Technically China,North Korea were still at war with US/South Korea, the truce signed in 1953 was still a cease fire not a peace treaty. So China's concerns and "Reactions" was normal!

This video should make everything perfectly clear:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ehrPwVyN8lc&fbclid=IwAR3hPQ-7xcPTWQIrNwFk6TNdbgpoRaL-smm4ZMbhGFQEu_Ar-R4wy34MtjM&fs=e&s=cl

Being told that they are not allowed to defend themselves is like telling them to get ready to be conquered.

@Garthgoyle

China doesn't want others to build any defences

Not the case. China doesn't object to its neighbors fielding their own missile defense systems.

Korea has already test launched L-SAM four times this year and the fifth one is later this month, yet China never protested or made a fuss about it.

Make a whole carpet of THAAD from South Korea, to Taiwan and Japan.

Korea : Doesn't need and the military doesn't want it. Korea is a missile defense superpower with a triple layer missile defense network. UAE and Saudi Arabia lined up to import L-SAM as soon as it enters service like they did with M-SAM.

Japan : Japan already said no to THAAD due to cost.

Taiwan : Taiwan can't afford THAAD like Japan.

@Sh1mon M4sada

China's support for NK, its development of nuclear capable missiles

China never supported NK's missile development program; all of North Korea's missile program component and engineering assistance came from Russia and Ukraine.

Why would China support NK's ballistic missile program when the same nuclear tipped missile could be pointed at Beijing?

In two years, the US will deploy intermediate range missiles in Iwakuni Japan, and Japan will deploy offensive missiles of similar range shortly after.

Expect China to make a big fuss about US intermediate range missile deployment in Japan and pull all kinds of economic retaliations against Japan, but remain quiet on deployment of Japanese missiles of similar range. Why? Because according to Chinese doctrines, it's OK for China's neighbors to deploy offensive missiles of own origin, but China firmly opposes deploying a 3rd party(US)'s missiles on China's neighbor's soil.

EppeeToday  07:43 am JST

China should stop interfering with Korea's internal affairs.

Oh, I like this one! That would drive them crazy!

Technically China,North Korea were still at war with US/South Korea, the truce signed in 1953 was still a cease fire not a peace treaty. So China's concerns and "Reactions" was normal!

By that standard and considering that since the cease fire the DPRK has developed its own nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them to targets in ROK, the response of the ROK is likewise normal. None of this is going to be solved until the CCP eventually implodes or is thrown out.

You hear that china, go ahead and have your “Insurrection” already, hopefully, yours will work out for the better.

Technically China,North Korea were still at war with US/South Korea, the truce signed in 1953 was still a cease fire not a peace treaty. So China's concerns and "Reactions" was normal!

Since North Korea is still at war with South Korea, then South Korea has every right to defend itself

China, contending that the THAAD's powerful radar could peer into its airspace,

Hardly an issue that only effects China. Does China not peer into it's neighbors airspace with their own powerful radars and satellites? I bet they do.

Will my neighbor not peer into my bedroom if I fail to close the curtains before turning on the light and undressing?

South Korea can do whatever it likes on it's territory. If they can see what is going on in China with radar or satellite, then China should ensure it is not doing anything wrong. If China is going about its lawful business and South Korea is doing the same then what is the problem?

The Chinese spokesman told a briefing the THAAD deployment in South Korea "undermines China's strategic security interest".

And yet it enhances South Korea's strategic security interest. I am sure China has things that undermines South Korea's strategic security interest and I am also sure that China thinks nothing of that. So why Should South Korea give a damn what China thinks?

China also insists that South Korea abide by "one restriction" - limiting the use of existing THAAD batteries.

China can insist on anything it likes and South Korea will continue to do what ever it needs to do regardless. China is a yapping little dog barking at the heels of South Korea. Just shut up, nobody cares what China wants.

the newspaper warned that the THAAD issue was "a major hidden danger that cannot be avoided in China-South Korea ties".

The newspaper is wrong. South Korea can continue to completely ignore Chinese barking at THAAD in South Korea. It is none of their business what so ever.

These are exactly the type of actions (i.e. building US missile-related facilities) which led to Russia invading Ukraine.

These are exactly the type of actions (i.e. building US missile-related facilities) which led to Russia invading Ukraine.

Downvote all you want.

Them be the facts.

Facts trump bias and ignorance.

These are exactly the type of actions (i.e. building US missile-related facilities) which led to Russia invading Ukraine.

For defense. THAAD is a defense system

How about North Korea building missile-related Chinese-backed offensive facilities that they fire over South Korea and even Japan? Those are exactly the type of actions which lead to NATO invading North Korea

Chinese hypocrisy as per normal. If they continue with this line then the appropriate SK response should be reciprocity, they will comply if China does exactly the same, turn off its radars and limit its defences as they undermine Koreas strategic security interests.

Legrand, you are right facts trump bias and ignorance, unfortunately it is your bias and apparent ignorance, russia invaded Ukraine because of poo tins ego driven desire for imperial expansion, as admitted, if not in quite those words in a recent speech he gave. US actions had no relevance or bearing whatsoever. Likewise here, South Korea has every right to defend its self against the threat posed and frequently reiterated by North Korea. The solution is in China’s hands, denuclearise it’s client state and stop firing ballistic missiles in to sovereign nations EEZ’s (Taiwan and Japan).

China wants the world to be defenseless against them. They expect other nations to have bow and arrows while they lob bombs!!!

China, contending that the THAAD's powerful radar could peer into its airspace,

Hardly an issue that only effects China. Does China not peer into it's neighbors airspace with their own powerful radars and satellites? I bet they do.

It is, and the Chinese have raised the matter with the US on multiple occasions. Surveillance inside China is a concern but not the main one. Having that radar in that position in ROK gives US based BMD a big advantage tracking Chinese ICBMs and discerning the warheads from the decoys. It has to be seen as part of a system of these radars, two in Japan and now a third in ROK, plus another huge radar system on Taiwan.

https://thediplomat.com/2017/03/thaad-and-chinas-nuclear-second-strike-capability/

Scroll down this to "China's Objections"

https://isdp.eu/publication/korea-thaad

Also keep in mind that the AN/TPY-2 radar interfaces seamlessly with SM-3 and the newest Block 2 version has the speed and range for a boost phase intercept, the Holy Grail of BMD. With SM-3 equipped US Navy DDGs in the region and those AN/TPY-2 radars triangulating the positions of outbound Chinese ICBMs, there is the real possibility of the US conducting a successful boost phase intercept of a Chinese ICBM strike against the US.

China has not used missiles to attack other countries.

Everyone knows the US' track record...any wonder that China is not happy with the US building missile-related facilities and selling missiles to neighboring countries?

It's not rocket science.

For the same reason that Russia felt compelled to invade Ukraine after the US installed missile-related facilities in Romania and Poland, China may be goaded into a conflict over Taiwan, something not lost on Pelosi and her associates.

Everyone knows the CCP's track record as well. Nobody will buy their propaganda.

Everyone knows the US' track record...any wonder that China is not happy with the US building missile-related facilities and selling missiles to neighboring countries?

The THAAD missiles and AN/TPY-2 radars are mobile and belong to the US Army.

For the same reason that Russia felt compelled to invade Ukraine after the US installed missile-related facilities in Romania and Poland,

The sites in Poland and Romania are defensive, capable of firing only SM-3. There is specific hardware required for Tomahawk that is not installed in either site. They are defensive sites only and the Russians know this.

@Honest Dictator

CCP (unlike the US) doesn't have a history of using missiles to invade another country, so you're dead wrong there.

@Desert Tortoise

We all know that hardware can be switched out in an instant.

We all know that hardware can be switched out in an instant.

A comment that could only come from someone with no hands on with logistics or with actual ordnance. I can tell you that integrating a new weapon to a combat yet takes a couple of years of development and testing to make sure it will work for the pilot.' You don't just take a missile. stick it on a launch rail and expect it to work. The same is true of surface launched ordnance.

An example of things going wrong because testing was inadequate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbaay3r6e6M

Well someone who is an aerospace security expert begs to differ with you:

[In 2008, the Pentagon converted a defensive missile to shoot down a non-functioning military satellite in a mission known as Operation Burnt Frost. “It only took a few days of reprogramming to make that missile capable of hitting the satellite,” says Todd Harrison, an aerospace security expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a bipartisan think tank.]