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U.S. states scale back vaccine orders as interest in shots wanes

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By HEATHER HOLLINGSWORTH and TODD RICHMOND

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So if the US population want to risk death, give the vaccines to India and other countries who do want them. Leave the ignorant to fester in the mire of their own creation.

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The USGovt just needs to announce that the "free vaccinations" will end in 30 days, unless demand increases. The expectation that Pfizer/Moderna will charge $120/dose and J&J $50 after that time will get people into line.

School systems and Universities need to be clear that vaccination will be mandatory to attend any school functions beginning July 1 for any child over 12 (the approved age for Pfiser vaccination).

Procrastinators will put it off until something meaningful forces them.

of course, medical exceptions would be exempt.

Every week, the US should be donating the left over doses to COVAC until the cost limit already published is reached.

I'm not in favor of forcing pharma to give away their IP and hands-on production knowledge to anyone. I understand there are some very subtle techniques required for mRNA vaccine production. That shouldn't be given away. Giving away trade secrets is not acceptable - we did that the last 20 yrs in China. Hopefully, someone has learned that is a bad idea.

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Black people have the highest rates of vaccine refusal because they have a long memory.

It's recorded history that Blacks were given shots and told "these are to protect you" but in fact the vaccine administrators were lying. The vaccine recipients were used as guinea pigs.

This is very true, the Tuskegee experiment is one of the main reasons as well as Margaret Sanger who practiced and experimented eugenics on young black women. So from those two historical horrific events the black community is definitely more reluctant and apprehensive about this vaccine.

https://www.history.com/news/the-infamous-40-year-tuskegee-study

Even the Nation of Islam was very adamant about the vaccine. Other States like Florida are showing that despite the higher infection rates, less people are dying and less hospitalizations and with younger people that many probably had and survived in and wouldn’t need it and some are less susceptible to the virus, herd immunity starting to happen which is a great thing.

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Only one-third of the population has been fully vaccinated.

The largest group of anti-vaxxers are Republican white males.

Facts

Republican men: 49%.

Trump supporters: 47%.

Republicans: 41%.

White men without a college degree: 40%.

White evangelicals: 38%.

People under 45: 37%.

Latinos: 37%.

Rural Americans: 36%.

Generation Z and Millennials: 36%.

Independent men: 36%.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2021/03/11/here-are-the-groups-who-dont-want-a-vaccine-and-trump-voters-are-near-top/?sh=5394bd394947

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-vaccine-why-some-black-americans-skeptical/

Studies suggest the Black community is "less inclined" to take the vaccine than any other racial group, according to a Pew Research Center study published this month. Of the 12,648 adults surveyed, only 42% of Black Americans would consider taking the vaccine, compared to 63% of Hispanics, 61% of White adults, and 83% of English-speaking Asian Americans who would. 

The Black community's distrust of the vaccine and the nation's medical establishment is rooted in a long record of mistreatment. The late 1900s were defined by medical breakthroughs in the nation's scientific community, but many of these experiments and discoveries were made at "the expense of Black people's human dignity," said Dr. Reed Tuckson, co-founder of the Black Coalition Against COVID-19. "There is a history of insults that have occurred in health care for people of color."

Can’t say I blame them, that number is no doubt higher, they only surveyed 12,648 people, just the tip of the iceberg.

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Bass: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-vaccine-why-some-black-americans-skeptical/

When doing a Google search, click on Search Tools below the search box and to the right. There you can tell Google to show results from recent dates, like from the last month only. Use that to get the most recent information.

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When doing a Google search, click on Search Tools below the search box and to the right. There you can tell Google to show results from recent dates,

Nice try, the dates have nothing to do with the black community in large part being more reluctant to taking this vaccine. Don’t convince me, convince them. You are welcome.

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Don’t convince me, convince them. 

Actually the black population is fairly easy to convince through community outreach. And will also provably vaccinate a lot once you make the vaccine easily available to them :

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/04/26/989962041/why-black-and-latino-people-still-lag-on-covid-vaccines-and-how-to-fix-it

As soon as the city started sending him doses, he says, demand was never an issue. In fact, Bream's clinic — which is located in a predominantly Black neighborhood — had more vaccines than it had staff to administer them.

"I said, send me vaccine and I will show you that there is not the level of vaccine hesitancy you think there is," recalls the medical director of Sayre Health Center.

So yeah, contrary to trump supporters and real conspirationnist anti-vaxxers, black people will happily listen to reason and science.

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Actually the black population is fairly easy to convince through community outreach. And will also provably vaccinate a lot once you make the vaccine easily available to them :

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/04/health/vaccine-trust-black-adults-nfid-survey/index.html

https://blockclubchicago.org/2021/05/03/black-chicagoans-arent-getting-vaccinated-at-the-same-rate-as-others-and-its-more-than-just-distrust/

Again, I’m not surprised that the black community is extremely apprehensive about the vaccine. I can’t blame, I would be skeptical myself.

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Millions and millions of Blacks have refused the vaccine.

As bass4funk actually pointed out with his helpful article, it's not a matter of refusal, it's a matter of accessibility.

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The only thing he achieved in his first 100 days is the failure of the vaccinations and stunting the growth of the economy he inherited.

lol Do you actually believe that?

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Bass: Nice try,

Recent information is important. The acceptance rate in the black community has jumped since 6 months ago.

Also, we are talking percentages of a larger group vs a smaller group.

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Yeah, recent articles have challenged the Tuskegee Experiment explanation, but I'm sure it still plays into things.

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As bass4funk actually pointed out with his helpful article, it's not a matter of refusal, it's a matter of accessibility.

No, more like refusal and trust. Again, I was specific.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-color-wellness/202102/why-many-black-americans-don-t-trust-the-covid-19-vaccine

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/19/948316306/fighting-covid-19-vaccine-mistrust-in-the-black-community

Recent information is important.

As you continuously remind us about January, so December is recent

The acceptance rate in the black community has jumped since 6 months ago.

but still overall they distrust the vaccine 64% that’s a high number

Also, we are talking percentages of a larger group vs a smaller group.

Well, as you say follow the science and as such the medical experts find that blacks are less willing to take the vaccine, they would know.

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You can force a horse to water, but you make it eat it.

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Science is not something his supporters understand...

So you’re essentially saying that blacks are distrustful of the vaccine understand science? Well, that has nothing to do with Trump or Biden or the GOP or the Democrat party and more to do with the history of the US and how science and scientists handled blacks over the last hundred years. There’s your ground zero. I get it you hate Trump, I hate Biden, but neither men are responsible for the distrust within the black community

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The anti-vaxxers on this post trying to justify their refusal to help out with beating the pandemic.

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Why anyone would have an experimental serum (to date, not one of these "vaccines" have been approved for general use by the FDA nor the CDC) is beyond stupid. Be a lab rat for Big Pharma? Thanks, but no thanks.

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I get it you hate Trump, I hate Biden

Why do you hate him? Not very non-partisan.

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Not wanting to get a specific vaccine for a specific reason doesn’t make someone an “anti-vaxxer”.

that’s just misuse of a politically loaded term. Same as the presentation of percentages not total numbers to try to show who is most at fault.

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The anti-vaxxers on this post trying to justify their refusal to help out with beating the pandemic.

Moving to Florida and Texas seems to be the helping remedy, including the kids

Why do you hate him?

Rhetorical question?

Not wanting to get a specific vaccine for a specific reason doesn’t make someone an “anti-vaxxer”.

Exactly.

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Why anyone would have an experimental serum (to date, not one of these "vaccines" have been approved for general use by the FDA nor the CDC) is beyond stupid. Be a lab rat for Big Pharma? Thanks, but no thanks.

Be a lab ray for Trump’s Operation Warp Speed. It’s hilarious how you people forget who is responsible for rushing the vaccines.

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If you’d like to know the actual reasons black and latino people are being vaccinated at a lower rate, read this article:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-biggest-barriers-to-covid-vaccination-for-black-and-latinx-people1/

It’s more than the simplistic reasons our conservative friends are trying to sell us.

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If you’d like to know the actual reasons black and latino people are being vaccinated at a lower rate, read this article:

Sure that is one reason, but the other underlying reason is distrust. When it comes to medical research and the black community, there is record has always been sketchy and cautious, and that’s ok. They have every right to be skeptical and ask questions, but the left continues to say, shut up, don’t ask any question and take the vaccine and they’re not going to shut up about it, nor should they. Questioning something you put in your body should always be welcomed and encouraged, if you truly want to be transparent.

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Usual nonsense. The URL gave a hint by using the term “Latinx”.

Your article starts with discussing the experience of an illegal alien. which is not the experience a citizen of the same race would have had.

Then the usual Blacks and Hispanics don’t have cars and can’t get on the internet. No need to ready any longer.

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but the left continues to say, shut up, don’t ask any question

Prove it.

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bass4funk

The anti-vaxxers on this post trying to justify their refusal to help out with beating the pandemic.

Moving to Florida and Texas seems to be the helping remedy, including the kids

So you will be moving your Japanese wife/kids back home then?

Nearly all of the anti-vaxxers on this post live in Japan, and not America.

COVID-19 Vaccines in Florida

https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/vaccines/

Texas 20 million vaccinated. 8.36 million fully vaccinated. Pop 29 million.

https://www.dshs.texas.gov/coronavirus/immunize/vaccine.aspx

Or you could wait for the Japanese vaccinations.

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Usual nonsense. The URL gave a hint by using the term “Latinx”. 

Your article starts with discussing the experience of an illegal alien. which is not the experience a citizen of the same race would have had. 

Then the usual Blacks and Hispanics don’t have cars and can’t get on the internet. No need to ready any longer.

Your posts are invaluable to the discussions here. Always relevant and fact-filled. Nothing hyperpartisan at all.

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You posted a hyper partisan article that I summarized. None of that was my opinion, but simply what your article was promoting.

ar least I focus on the topic not just only replying whines to other posters and begging moderators to censor others.

Your posts are invaluable to the discussions here. Always relevant and fact-filled. Nothing hyperpartisan at all.

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There were multiple reasons given in the article. You should try reading it before posting about it.

I sure did, now please read mine and then comment.

Nearly all of the anti-vaxxers on this post live in Japan, and not America.

Japan doesn’t have a lot of black people and the entire Florida and Texas populations don’t live in Japan.

Texas 20 million vaccinated. 8.36 million fully vaccinated. Pop 29 million.

But still the hospitalization rates and deaths are going down, that’s great news.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/texas-covid-cases-record-low-restrictions-lifted

Or you could wait for the Japanese vaccinations.

….or just decline it as well.

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If Biden didn’t blow the public’s confidence in the J&J vaccine by over-reacting - first banning then re-instating it - then perhaps more Americans would trust the government and get the vaccine. He completely politicized the vaccinations during the election with VP candidate Harris flat out proclaiming that she doesn’t trust a vaccine developed under the opposition. Black Americans are particularly untrusting of Progressives given their track record with eugenics.

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Even more so because the Biden administration forced our military, veterans and civilian Department of Defense to take J&J vaccine before discovering blood clots and other adverse impacts.

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Even more so because the Biden administration forced our military, veterans and civilian Department of Defense to take J&J vaccine before discovering blood clots and other adverse impacts.

I don’t know. I’m going to leave that to the military,” Biden told NBC News’ Craig Melvin in an interview that aired Friday, in response to a question on whether he would mandate the vaccine for U.S. service members once it is fully approved by the Food and Drug Administration

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/04/30/biden-covid-vaccines-troops-485099

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That statement has nothing to do with the fact that “Nearly all of the anti-vaxxers on this post live in Japan, and not America.”

According to whom? Is that scientific based and who did the study and research on that? Give me a break. Lol

You two have a penchant for getting these threads disabled.

We, so only conservatives? What?

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But still the hospitalization rates and deaths are going down, that’s great news.

Yes, because of the vaccinations. Without them, it wouldn't be happening.

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Black people have the highest rates of vaccine refusal because they have a long memory.

It's recorded history that Blacks were given shots and told "these are to protect you" but in fact the vaccine administrators were lying. The vaccine recipients were used as guinea pigs.

Interesting how some will ignore all the contradictions and use black people's familiarity with capitalist oppression in the cases of vaccinations and forced abortions, but deny black people when they speak of present day economic oppression and police brutality.

It is like black people are denied any agency and are a tool to be used to put forward an agenda.

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Blacklabel: Even more so because the Biden administration forced our military, veterans and civilian Department of Defense to take J&J vaccine before discovering blood clots

There have been 15 cases of blood clots out of 8 million shots administered in the US. Confirmed deaths = 1, possible total deaths = 3. Odds so low that if it scares you, then the odds of getting COVID or passing it to someone else should terrify you.

Wolfpack: He completely politicized the vaccinations during the election with VP candidate Harris flat out proclaiming that she doesn’t trust a vaccine developed under the opposition.

Here are Harris' actual words:

"If the public health professionals, if Dr. Fauci, if the doctors tell us that we should take it, I’ll be the first in line to take it. Absolutely. But if Donald Trump tells us that we should take it. I’m not taking it.”

Perhaps you misunderstood her words, but she's saying if Trump says it's OK while the medical professionals don't, she's not taking it. This is because Trump has a habit of making things up or saying the opposite of the scientists for his own benefit.

Hope that helps.

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