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Black Sabbath
PTownsend
Labels are effective if accurate.
Wc626
Pfff- even if they speak on it, they don't sincerely condemn violent extremism. There is no leadership there (or anywhere from any moderate muslims) in fear that they be targeted by extremists for being unsympathetic. They just don't want to wear the shoe.
Black Sabbath
PeaceOut
Manus is f*ch%^#D. That does not make it fascist.
WilliB
PeaceOut:
Did anybody say "concentration" camp here? You should not put things into people`s mouths.
And since you bring up fascism, you do you realize that Mussolini called himself "the sword of islam", and Hitler had the Mufti of Jerusalem in Berlin, who recruited muslim SS regiments for him? So, who are you addressing, when you should "fascism", in all caps no less?
Peace Out
@BlackSabbath
From the wiki on fascism, my bold:
"Robert Paxton says that fascism is "a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion."
It is the suspension of human rights that I am particularly concerned with when I use the word "fascist", in this case, the freedom of speech. With regard to Manus, various human rights are being suspended, and yes, concentration camps are a means of internal cleansing, a pre-emptive means in this case.
People in the government may not be able to do all they would like to do, but I think its pretty clear what those fascists would like to do by what they are doing right now.
PTownsend
I think terms like fascist, socialist, progressive, liberal, etc. etc. are just labels used by the hard of thinking unable to articulate their beliefs beyond labeling and name-calling.
As soon as I see a poster using one of those terms I stop reading, which is too bad because some of them might have good ideas worth reading.
Joshua Degreiff
Sighclop No no no say that, everybody will bashing you "refugees" are good, peaceful solution to any country.
sighclops
Western Sydney will be home to several thousand Syrian refugees over the coming years. What's that going to do to a place that's already a giant mess?
Black Sabbath
Peace out
Do you know what 'fascist" means?
Peace Out
@Tel Porter Thank you for the quote. I am just wondering if people actually think that one post was worth an arrest. I don't.
@Everyone My problem with Manus is one: the secrecy. The secrecy is fascist. Next is that people are not leaving the camp. Even murderers are given more rights! That is fascist. What is happening in the camp may be even more fascist. And there are children in there for Pete's sake!
I find it hard to believe that people can be so FASCIST that the only two options they are see are 1) let refuguees run amok or 2) lock them up in a concentration camp closed to journalists and the Red Cross alike. I guess if you are two dim to see anything in between that FASCISM must be awful appealing.
Tel Porter
@Peace Out, the actual wording on the messages that got the police onto him was (censored version):
"Bahahaja f--- you mf---- Yallah merryland police station is next hope they all burn in hell"
Nathaw
Without that concentration camp, Australia will transform as United Islamic federation of down under as Afghanistan, Malaysia and Indonesia which were non Islamic nations before.
Back in 1980s, I visited Au. There were many Indo Chinese refugees. Mainly from Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia.
However those refugee have not killed any Aussie in the name of their God. They do not prey their God for seven times a day because they have other things to do. Their women do not cover their faces while they are driving for the concern of safety.
In 2014 and 2015, many Aussies were butchered by those blood thirsty and ungrateful immigrants. Aussie have been bullied by them in the name of political correctness.
In my view, those young immigrants have been radicalized for waging Jihad war against Au for being the disciple of US. However those victims have nothing to do with government policy for middle east. Victims are scape goats who have been sacrificed as infidels for not being assimilate with immigrants.
WilliB
marcelito:
... or try Germany`s, inviting a million into the country every year. At that rate, Australia would be a caliphate within a few years.
WilliB
Well, good luck with that, Mr. Turnbull. Hanging on to your dream, are you.
Peace Out
I hope that is not the type of post the youth was arrested over.
Threatened to sue and told "get off me"?
The most important detail missing, what he actually said online, makes very suspicious that the police are being knew-jerk over-reactive. It makes me think of Australia's walled Manus concentration camp in New Guinea. Fascist behavior.