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Laguna
Teachers are gonna love this, too. Not only is it a teaching moment, I can't imagine any teacher who wants to arm his/herself. Teachers are skilled at spotting BS, which is all the Repubs have regarding gun violence.
lostrune2
Students being proactive
TumbleDry
The trolls will have field day...
School shouldn’t look like prisons with armed guards/teachers.
PTownsend
Hats off to all young people willing to take a stand. It's their future, after all.
I have to think the 'come and take it' and 'open carry' crowd will be stirred up by the NRA and counter protests. Fair enough. The US still has vestiges of a democracy remaining.
I just hope no one in the gun crowd, even though there might be good 'good people' among them, even though they purchased their weapon legally, even though they had shown no previous signs of being mentally unstable, uses his weapon on the students.
katsu78
The thing that worries most is that I keep hearing these students talk about how the older generations failed them by refusing to do anything about guns. It's hard to make a counter-argument against that. So history books are going to remember our generation as the people who made a bunch of nifty gadgets, but were also okay with their kids being murdered.
maybeperhapsyes
To effect change you first have to want to change. Sadly, too many don't want to change the gun laws as they are. And those people are backed by some very powerful people whose interests are only in themselves.
So, sadly, it will only be a matter of time before the next attack.
theFu
These are 99.9999999% minors, so they don't have the same rights as adults. I didn't turn 18 until after HS graduation and in that state, 21 is the age of adult, not 18.
98% of the kids don't care and just want to skip. We walked out of class over lax drunk driving laws and pushed for mandatory seat belts. Nobody left school, because all exits were guarded by teachers. Leaving campus wasn't allowed without a parent or pre-arranged parent approval. How many Saturday detentions will be handed out?
There are legal requirements for school administration to have a certain number of teaching sessions to maintain their accreditation.
Strangerland
The problem is, Americans are just too selfish. I think they can understand that guns are no good for society, they just don't care, because they would rather sacrifice society for their right to own a gun.
Here in Japan, we see the opposite, where the people think a little too much about society and not enough of themselves. America is just the opposite extreme, it's all about me, me, me, and what can I get, with no caring as to how that affects society overall.
Truly a selfish group of people overall. Unfortunately the less selfish Americans have to deal with the environment created by the selfish ones.
Strangerland
You think kids don't care about getting executed at school?
Kuya 808
It's great to see so many young people speaking up but instead of focusing on the standard rhetoric maybe it would be better to focus more on the "violence" part of it. Every school shooting has be done by somebody and every one of those "somebodies" had a reason for doing it. There was something going on in that person's life that brought them to that point.
Analysis of past shooters has identified a number of social and behavioral indicators that could help guide teachers, school administrators, as well as, law enforcement and social services in better identification and intervention. There are numerous resources available for parents and community groups for the same purpose. Basically, the "adults" have some pretty valuable tools at their disposal but all too often they are not used effectively by those who are in the position to make a difference. The kids should be saying "Hey look at us! Keep us safe" Part of this protest should be admonishing the people, who hold their safety in their hands, to pay attention and fulfill their responsibilities.
In the majority of recent school shootings, young people have been the targets and young people have been the assailants. This is like one part of a community going to war with the rest, for reasons that arise from the particular dynamics specific to that community. The question of why some young people feel driven to kill other young people is probably best answered by young people themselves. Maybe this demonstration can help inspire some introspection and maybe that can help some young people see what part they can play (beyond protesting) in finding a better place in the future.
Strangerland
That's a lot of words to try to get around the idea of getting rid of guns means less people will be shot.
Wolfpack
The indoctrination of America’s youth by the NEA continues. Next thing you know they’ll have the kids protesting for the repeal the entire Bill of Rights.
bass4funk
It’s not like the kids are learning anything of importance in the public schools anyway, so....
Strangerland
The right can’t stop the kids message so they are doing what they always do - try to discredit the messenger.
Blacklabel
The messengers discredited themselves once they started parroting all the Democratic partisan talking points in areas outside of gun control/school safety.
Strangerland
No they didn’t. You people just hate that kids would come to the same opinions as the left, all on their own.
Toasted Heretic
These are the bravest Americans, of all. They have not succumbed to lethargy or cynicism.
Total admiration for them on this serious issue.
bass4funk
I do too, but what will it solve?
Toasted Heretic
Who knows? Maybe a lot more than you and I posting on a Japanese forum?
Why leave it all to the politicians, most of whom don't give a darn or are in the pocket of the NRA death cult.
theFu
Right. Everyone should voluntarily destroy their firearms for the utopia you think will come?
See ... in the USA, we are a nation of laws, that's the theory. The highest law of the land is the US Constitution, which says that people have the right to bare arms. To modify that, Congress (i.e. politicians) Must be involved.
It isn't ALL in the hands of the politicians, but without 2/3rds of Congress interested, it won't happen.
from https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/constitution
CrazyJoe
They should also walk out, the entire classroom, if any teacher shows up with a gun on their hip. Civil disobedience is the only way to stop this "more guns will solve the problem" madness.
Parents, stand behind your teens if they decide to walk out, even if their school's policy forbids it.
The NRA should enjoy these last glory days because they'll be history when these students vote. They've lived with school shootings their entire lives. No more.
Toasted Heretic
That would be a start. But worship of the gun must be discouraged.
I don't mind if people have bare arms, what with the weather getting nice.
But of course, your politicians are the ones who by law, can put an end to this disease. But out of fear, they chose not to. That's why it's your children who are pushing for change.
They really are the future.
Laguna
It's almost as if Wolf doesn't know that educational curriculum are up to local communities and states. "No Child Left Behind" (W's initiative) is simply a suggestion; the NEA has no involvement in content. Also, many would rather have indoctrination by the likes of the NRA than education by self-sacrificing teachers.
Strangerland
I've called him out on numerous threads recently for not bothering to fact check himself.
I guess he doesn't mind looking silly for making factually incorrect comments, as long as he can try to score points for team red. A true self-sacrifice if there ever was one.
bass4funk
NRA cult? No, they’re not a cult, they’re the last thing standing between a group of people that would love Nothing more than to take away the 2nd amendment from law-abiding citizens.
Strangerland
The gun cult.
If they repeal the amendment, then those law-abiding citizens who don't fall in line with the law will become lawless citizens.
You people HATE lawless citizens. So I can understand why you wouldn't want your beloved death sticks to become illegal, you'd be faced with being that which you hate, or giving up that which you worship.
Toasted Heretic
A group of people who wish to see people being shot to bits on a regular basis. The NRA demand their sacrifices because of the sacred power of guns and ammunition.
Wake up, America.
bass4funk
Which I am a proud member of this group.
Yeah, well thankfully, we never have to worry about that happening.
Yes
In an alternate make believe universe that may be a far off possibility, but we don’t ever have to worry about that happening.
bass4funk
You mean like Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, Oakland, all the Democrat run cities?
I hope you know they started off as civil rights organizations to help blacks fight the KKK another organization started by Democrats. Yes, America is awake and the last thing we need are Democrats that will stop at nothing to erode our rights.
Strangerland
Sadly you're probably right. Too many Americans are just too selfish, and aren't willing to give up guns in order to prevent kids from being murdered at school. They all just hope it will be someone elses kid who gets murdered, and not their own.
Goodlucktoyou
oh oh. They can soon vote.
bass4funk
Rifles: 252
Knives: 1,544
Blunt objects: 437
Bare Hands/Feet: 624
2015 FBI crime stats. Looks like guns are really not the problem at all. This fear mongering the left continues to perpetuate about guns won’t advance their agenda in any possible way.
Strangerland
That's some weird logic there. 'People are killed in other ways too, so guns are not a problem'.
You didn't think that one through, did you.
Yeah! It's not like kids are being murdered in school, and people are being murdered in the streets with guns or anything.
bass4funk
No, the left is the problem.
I did, deeply and well, thought out, the left IS THE problem.
So kids are being murdered in school every single day throughout the USA by the hundreds and thousands? Ok, so then we should get rid of knives then since they make up the majority of physical assault and murder weapons. But then again, we can’t do that, because knives fall under the 2nd amendment, so what shall we do? Oh, dear us....
bass4funk
So, I have to coheres my meat and game to come to me? Is that even possible?
katsu78
You're right. They're not a cult, they're a terrorist organization. They actively support the radicalization of Americans, particularly of white supremacists.
theFu
A gun cult?
A religion cult?
A govt-owes-me-protection-from-everything cult?
The people I know who have firearms are fiercely independent. They are following the laws, BTW.
The last cult seems to have taken over the honorable Democratic party. They have a plan to get 51% of the votes and change the laws so that the other 49% pay for everything they want and never need work again.
Whatever happened to the independent, hardworking, Americans trying to raise their family, earn a living, and have a little better life for their kids with minimal govt interference?
SuperLib
Good on the students. It's a message that turns the screws to gun supporters.
bass4funk
Yes, 30 min. really helps
toshiko
Two weeks ago,, Trump and NRA jointly announced that Animation videos the cause of gun violence. So they have plans to stop. sales of Animation videos that cause people's using gun crimes.
peterl
And of course, this coincides with the recent story of a teacher in a California high school who accidentally shot a gun in the classroom injuring one. The teacher was even a reserve police officer and yet, he didn't know how to handle the gun properly and could have killed someone because of his actions. Students have a right to be concerned that Trump wants to arm teachers.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/california-teacher-injures-three-pupils-131503194.html
Joe
God Bless the 2nd Amendment.
We Americans have the right to own guns because our Founding Fathers wanted us to able to defend ourselves from a potential dictator. That's how America was founded - regular people such as farmers and ranchers took up arms against the British to win our independence from Great Britain in the American Revolution.
When the British came to confiscate our guns to try to put down our rebellion, we shot them.
Russell Leisenheimer
between 2006 and 2016 over 2/3rds of all u.s. homicides involved a gun
source
https://www.statista.com/statistics/249783/percentage-of-homicides-by-firearm-in-the-united-states/
Russell Leisenheimer
what an odd thing to say.... here's data from pew september 2016
58% of white Catholic registered voters now identify as Republican or lean Republican, compared with 37% who identify as Democrats or lean Democratic.
69% of Hispanic Catholics identify as Democrats or lean toward the Democratic Party. 23% of Hispanic Catholics affiliate with the GOP.
gelendestrasse
Plays well in the press but accomplishes nothing.
theFu
That just isn't true. There is hunting in Japan, with guns. https://japantoday.com/category/features/lifestyle/hunting-the-newest-growing-hobby-of-japanese-women They actually want more hunters to help control animal populations.
theFu
zichi
We cannot just go hunting wherever you like in America either.
Hunting licenses are also required and there are seasons for the different animals, with limits. In my state, a hunting safety course must be successfully completed too.
It isn't the "wild west" in America for hunting.