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Study: Fox viewers more likely to believe COVID falsehoods

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Fox viewers are less likely to believe this story.

25 ( +38 / -13 )

Perhaps because Faux “news” feeds them a steady stream of things that are objectively not true.

Faux also feeds their collective victim hood and latent white nationalism.

The “not a journalist” Tucker Carlson and a host of others on the “commentary” side portray as face things that are not true, give credibility to those who ar not credible and introduce into the body politic conspiracy and paranoia under the guise of “just asking questions”.

It is, in short, a pseudo-news business model that appeals by design to white nationalist morons.

Thanks Rupert.

2 ( +26 / -24 )

The “not a journalist” Tucker Carlson and a host of others on the “commentary” side portray as face things that are not true, give credibility to those who ar not credible and introduce into the body politic conspiracy and paranoia under the guise of “just asking questions”.

For someone that claims not to watch Fox News, you sure seem to act like you know an awful lot about it. In fact, you can probably name the full day's lineup.

-4 ( +20 / -24 )

For someone that claims not to watch Fox News, you sure seem to act like you know an awful lot about it. In fact, you can probably name the full day's lineup.

Right, because nowhere in the media is Tucker talked about. I'm willing to be that if GDTokyo lives in Japan he doesn't watch Fox news, unless he lives/works on a base.

Funny how mentioning Tucker the Trust Fund baby draws them all out of the woodwork.

8 ( +24 / -16 )

It is, in short, a pseudo-news business model that appeals by design to white nationalist morons.

Can you prove this ridiculous statement?

2 ( +25 / -23 )

Fox and CNN are both pretty bad.

11 ( +20 / -9 )

Can you prove this ridiculous statement?

Lmao where is it wrong?

1 ( +18 / -17 )

These figures reflect a general distrust of government.

The thing is, in the age of the Internet we can get information from a variety of sources so we can make comparisons. For instance, why are COVID cases in Japan in low triple figures yet over in the Uk and US they are in the stratosphere?

In any case, an individual who gets their news from one source is just plain daft. It pays to read around.

16 ( +20 / -4 )

Fox and CNN both have their fair share of bs. Fox viewers more likely to believe covid falsehoods... CNN viewers more likely to do exactly what they're told.

-1 ( +13 / -14 )

I don’t watch Faux “news” but I do go to the trouble of knowing what is going on in the media.

I do live in Japan.

And I don’t need evidence to state an opinion and also that which is patently obvious. Perhaps you need proof that the Earth is round while we are at it?

8 ( +20 / -12 )

How many awards for journalism has Faux won in its 25 years of existence? Zero, none, zip.

CNN won 5 last year alone.

So no, they are not equally “bad”.

1 ( +19 / -18 )

So did the AP investigate to see if the government is exaggerating deaths or downplaying bad effects from vaccine?

If not, this is just a baseless opinion piece lacking any real substance.

-3 ( +12 / -15 )

Among the toxic smorgasbord of myriad illiberal media in Amerika Murdoch's Fox is the prime mind-bending "opioid of the masses" mainlined by millions before rushing to jump off the right-wing Republican cliff of Trumpism. "The Trojan Horse of Oz" has poisoned the well of American democracy with impunity under the guise of "freedom of the press" (and the "darksaber" of the dollar).

0 ( +14 / -14 )

If not, this is just a baseless opinion piece lacking any real substance.

lol That's not how this works. That this article didn't investigate issue X in no way indicates the article is an opinion piece.

What the article did show is right in the first paragraph:

People who trust Fox News Channel and other media outlets that appeal to conservatives are more likely to believe falsehoods about COVID-19 and vaccines than those who primarily go elsewhere for news, a study has found.

Why is that?hmmmm

0 ( +12 / -12 )

Study: Fox viewers more likely to believe COVID falsehoods

they needed a study to determine that??

8 ( +20 / -12 )

This isn’t really news. Given the education gulf between liberals and conservatives, it’s no surprise co see Stu we believe whatever Fox “News” tells them.

We actually witness evidence of this here every single day.

Yes, we do that goes both ways. It seems like the left believes in one medical theory and wants everyone else to follow that formula and millions of people are refusing this.

But the left are just angry that FNC offers dissenting as well as opposing voices, medical and scientific viewpoints concerning the virus and the left cannot control the narrative and that drives the left crazy, they can’t stop it, they tried petitions, they tried to deprive them of sponsors and unlike the rest of the leftist Marxist ideological driven forces FNC management will allow and back their pundits and network to allow discussion something that the left will n it tolerate on any of their platforms so it’s just fantastic and it helps for the discourse and real disinformation that’s out there and gives Americans the proper insights and perspectives to allow them to make the best and right choices for them when dealing with this vaccine. This is why the network to continues to grow.

-9 ( +14 / -23 )

The COVID jab KILLS!!

And Ivermectin & HCQ works!!

But, Big Pharma & the governments that want to CONTROL you don't want you to know that!!

Because they want to...

CONTROL YOU!

This being a text only board, I cannot say with certainty whether this is parody of the highest order of magnitude (In which case I salute you, sir/madam!), or a psychological break with objective reality (In which I would urge you to get the help you desperately need.).

I suspect it is the latter.

5 ( +15 / -10 )

Study: Fox viewers more likely to believe COVID falsehoods

Yep! It’s us vs us everyday in the land of corporate news.

-11 ( +4 / -15 )

Study: Fox viewers more likely to believe COVID falsehoods

Yep! It’s us vs us everyday in the land of corporate news.

Ah, yes. The world of ‘alternative media’.

Do tell us what we should be reading and watching.

Links would be lovely.

1 ( +11 / -10 )

First, anyone who goes to cable tv for their news is a fool. Look at their nightly lineups. All talk and opinion programming, very little actual news coverage. Cable 'news' networks are anything but. Plus the Big Three networks' nightly news shows dwarf all of cable tv in viewership.

Second, go and look at the survey at the KFF website. Look at the breakdown between "believe" and "are unsure". Lumping them together is ludicrous. Plus what KFF considers to be 'false statements' are not easily proven or disproven. They don't ask to comment on actual easily proven falsehoods such as "covid isn't real" or "vaccines don't work". Most seem politically charged, which obviously works to skew the results.

What a survey like this DOES allow is for smug and condescending people to take cheap shots at those who happen not to agree with them.

-1 ( +9 / -10 )

What is claimed: People think the government is overstating the number of deaths from COVID- sounds ominous, like people think 750,000 have not died.

but…..

What is reality: people think the government called death WITH Covid as death FROM Covid when it benefited their messaging- factual. Not all 750,000 died FROM Covid. Example, Colin Powell.

See how one “crazy” thing isn’t so crazy after all once the reality of what people are actually saying is clear?

-7 ( +10 / -17 )

People who trust Fox News Channel and other media outlets that appeal to conservatives are more likely to believe falsehoods about COVID-19 and vaccines

Of course they do - Murdoch knows Fox viewers are the most gullible in TV-land and so weak of mind he can bilk them out of all their money with books and premium memberships....just get them hooked on being "victims" and that the rest of the media-sphere can't be trusted.

One clear example? Look at that picture of the building at the top of the article - since mid-Sept Fox has had a vaccine mandate for entrance - get the vaccine or submit to daily tests. They also have a vaccine passport mandate. They also have a mask mandate.

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-health-arts-and-entertainment-fox-corp-26096a8781c7c7f1d6c0ddff98a5fe6d

Yet what do you hear from their talking heads - the vaccine is "poison", it will make you "sterile", that mandates steal your "freedom" - and of course, all these talking heads already have taken the vaccine. It's a con-job of the highest order....I'd call it "Trumpian"...

What a survey like this DOES allow is for smug and condescending people to take cheap shots at those who happen not to agree with them.

'Smug and Condescending" - thanks, you just described Fox's prime time lineup....throw in inane and you hit it on the head...and don't forget "tipsy" for Judge Jeanine...

5 ( +14 / -9 )

Why not link to the study so we can read it ourselves?

It's not like CNN is any better with it's "mostly peaceful riots". Now I can see the fake 'left' corporate media just straight up lying about the Rittenhouse case. The guy who he shot has already admitting he was running at him pointing a gun, look at the prosecution with their head in their hands because that's their own witness admitting it https://youtu.be/2a_arwYa2Zw

1 ( +11 / -10 )

What is reality: people think the government called death WITH Covid as death FROM Covid when it benefited their messaging- factual. Not all 750,000 died FROM Covid. Example, Colin Powell.

No. He died from Covid-19.

See how one “crazy” thing isn’t so crazy after all once the reality of what people are actually saying is clear

lmao Nope. I'm sure you think you're arguments are quite convincing, but they're not. Defending Fox news, yet again, looks a like self-reporting.

2 ( +11 / -9 )

Of course they do - Murdoch knows Fox viewers are the most gullible in TV-land

Now that sounds like childish whining. What’s wrong with political dissent. If you like mayonnaise and I don’t, that doesn’t mean I’m an idiot, it just means I don’t like or agree with what you’re eating and I like something else, that’s my choice

Yet what do you hear from their talking heads - the vaccine is "poison", it will make you "sterile", that mandates steal your "freedom"

Not sure about all that rant, but anyhow, it’s good to know the effects and also side effects the vaccine can pose to different people and what’s wrong talking about that?

'Smug and Condescending" - thanks, you just described Fox's prime time lineup...

The fantastic thing about that is, the left can’t stop it. They continue to try and continue to fail. FNC is not Twitter or FB. They do allow for dissenting viewpoints and that’s a good thing for a free democracy.

-10 ( +6 / -16 )

so 36% of people who believe these "falsehoods" supposedly got it from watching "stupid/evil" Fox News.

ok....so where did the 11 to 16% of people who watch CNN and others get this from?

From watching CNN or others? No, because those channels dont tell them about this.

Proof that what TV channel people watch has nothing to do with it.

Survey even tries to claim Dems watch Fox or Repubs watch CNN.

Nonsense.

-5 ( +6 / -11 )

Busby, I have never heard Fox people saying the vaccine will make you sterile or that it is poison. I HAVE heard them be against mandates. Those are two very different issues.

Example, here is what the oft excoriated Tucker Carlson said about vaccines: "Vaccines may be highly useful for some people, but across a population, they do not solve covid.”

Sean Hannity: "it absolutely makes sense for many Americans to get vaccinated. I believe in science. I believe in the science of vaccination."

Steve Doocy:  "If you have the chance, get the shot, it will save your life.”

-3 ( +6 / -9 )

Of course they do - Murdoch knows Fox viewers are the most gullible in TV-land

Now that sounds like childish whining. What’s wrong with political dissent. If you like mayonnaise and I don’t, that doesn’t mean I’m an idiot, it just means I don’t like or agree with what you’re eating and I like something else, that’s my choice

Wow, cites "mayonnaise" to prove his point Fox viewers aren't weak of mind...welcome to MAGA=world....

Yet what do you hear from their talking heads - the vaccine is "poison", it will make you "sterile", that mandates steal your "freedom"

Not sure about all that rant, but anyhow, it’s good to know the effects and also side effects the vaccine can pose to different people and what’s wrong talking about that?

They're telling you the vaccine is ineffective and is dangerous - yet they all got vaccinated. They tell you mandates steal your freedom - yet they all comply with Fox's mandates. Explain that...

'Smug and Condescending" - thanks, you just described Fox's prime time lineup...

The fantastic thing about that is, the left can’t stop it. They continue to try and continue to fail. FNC is not Twitter or FB. They do allow for dissenting viewpoints and that’s a good thing for a free democracy.

Dissenting opinions? I assume you mean Pirro prefers wine while Don Jr prefers coke. Continue to be fleeced....it's your money....

2 ( +7 / -5 )

the Fox News doctor on there everyday saying get the vaccine. over and over. even for kids.

He is just against the "mandate".

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/08/29/covid-vaccines-why-you-must-adapt-delta-variant-runs-rampant/5615084001/?gnt-cfr=1

-4 ( +6 / -10 )

maybe that is the case.

As evidenced by recent data in some areas/countries that shows half of new COVID cases are in vaccinated people.

so maybe this is true, is anyone reputable considering to look into this?

Nope. its off narrative.

-7 ( +6 / -13 )

That law, enacted in December 2020, makes it “unlawful” for a corporation or individual “to engage in a deceptive act or practice in or affecting commerce associated with the treatment, cure, prevention, mitigation, or diagnosis of COVID–19.”

Fact Check: Did Joe Biden Spread Misinformation on COVID Vaccines?

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-joe-biden-spread-misinformation-covid-vaccines-1612181

"If you're vaccinated, you're not going to be hospitalized, you're not going to be in an ICU unit, and you are not going to die." Biden also said: "You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations."

The Ruling: True. Joe Biden spread misinformation about COVID vaccines at a CNN town hall on Wednesday.

-6 ( +7 / -13 )

Busby, I have never heard Fox people saying the vaccine will make you sterile or that it is poison. I HAVE heard them be against mandates. Those are two very different issues.

Nonsense. The quotes you have taken were from a few months ago, in the midst of the delta surge. For the better part of the year they peddled conspiracy theory.

It's also a bit rich for Fox to be against vaccine mandates considering they have one in the work place.

5 ( +10 / -5 )

Didn't these geniuses get in an argument with Big Bird?

And arguing against a mandate using a proven safe and effective vaccine when we routinely vaccinate against a host of other maladies as a condition of school attendance is evidence of stupidity.

5 ( +11 / -6 )

Well shoot.

3 ( +5 / -2 )

bass4funkToday  10:06 am JST

Now that sounds like childish whining. What’s wrong with political dissent. If you like mayonnaise and I don’t, that doesn’t mean I’m an idiot, it just means I don’t like or agree with what you’re eating and I like something else, that’s my choice

You're confusing facts with opinions, petal.

3 ( +9 / -6 )

That law, enacted in December 2020, makes it “unlawful” for a corporation or individual “to engage in a deceptive act or practice in or affecting commerce associated with the treatment, cure, prevention, mitigation, or diagnosis of COVID–19.”

Fact Check: Did Joe Biden Spread Misinformation on COVID Vaccines?

I read the entire article and didn't see Biden mentioned once....going off-topic again?

Maybe because you can't explain why Fox's talking heads scream at their viewers that the vaccine is ineffective and that mandates take away your freedom.....when they are all vaccinated and readily comply with the company's vaccine passport and mask mandate....

Why are they telling you one thing and doing another?

5 ( +11 / -6 )

What is reality: people think the government called death WITH Covid as death FROM Covid when it benefited their messaging- factual. Not all 750,000 died FROM Covid. Example, Colin Powell.

A valid point. Collin Powell also had multiple myeloma, and I think the consensus is that late stage cancer is pretty nasty.

-1 ( +4 / -5 )

Takeda, a government mandate is a far different kettle of fish from a private company having one. But that kind of subtle logic often escapes people these days.

The skepticism on Fox is more about the origins of the virus, the possible misinformation being spread about the efficacy of the vaccine, and the irrational trust that many place in government edicts about it.

Love for you to fetch a quote where they say that it doesn't work.

-6 ( +5 / -11 )

So CNN viewers because of their maturity and feelings of entitlement are more likely to believe in Big Bird compared to FOX news viewers.

This isn't news.

-5 ( +6 / -11 )

Well the choice is to take advice from trained educated scientists, or from a Murdoch stooge talking head.

3 ( +9 / -6 )

after the “Sesame Street” Muppet character Big Bird tweeted about getting vaccinated.

so its not media manipulation and government propaganda to present as factual to children and parents that "Big Bird" got a vaccine?

The President of the United States even had a fake "conversation" with Big Bird on Twitter, praising his (her? it's) decision.

-5 ( +7 / -12 )

Takeda, a government mandate is a far different kettle of fish from a private company having one. But that kind of subtle logic often escapes people these days.

They're not just against government mandates. Many of the hosts are against mandates, period. Come on now.

4 ( +8 / -4 )

“Dear Christians: The vaccines contain a bioluminescent marker called Luciferase so that you can be tracked.”

Well of course it does. How else do you think Santa Claus gets all the presents to the right house? It's not rocket science.

5 ( +8 / -3 )

Wow, cites "mayonnaise" to prove his point Fox viewers aren't weak of mind...welcome to MAGA=world....

Trump has nothing to do with people wanting to discuss the pros and cons of the vaccine.

They're telling you the vaccine is ineffective and is dangerous -

No, they’re saying you have a choice whether you want to take it or not and the government doesn’t have the right to push you or intimidate you.

Dissenting opinions?

Exactly. I’m the US we have always had that historically.

-5 ( +6 / -11 )

Takeda: again, proof? You blew off my invitation to prove that the Fox people said the vaccines didn't work. So forgive me if I decline to take your second claim seriously. Perhaps some of them are, I don't watch the channel religiously. Yet I suspect you don't either. But none have ever been anti-vaxx, to borrow the oft used and innacurate accusation.

-3 ( +5 / -8 )

You're confusing facts with opinions, petal.

That goes both ways.

-4 ( +6 / -10 )

Here are come COVID "inconvenient truths" you won't see on Fox - and I doubt Greg Abbott will be touting them either...

*A vast majority of Texans who have died of covid-19 since the beginning of the year were unvaccinated, **according to a grim new Texas health department report released Monday.*

*The report from the Texas Department of State Health Services examined data from Jan. 15 to Oct. 1 and *found that unvaccinated people were much more likely to get infected and die of the coronavirus than those who got their shots.

*Of the nearly 29,000 covid-linked fatalities in Texas during that period, more than *85% were unvaccinated individuals. 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/unvaccinated-texans-40-times-more-203151245.html

Note this data is from Repub Gov Abbott's own Dept of State Health Services....

Think Tucker will mention this on his show tonight? Nah, I doubt it....

0 ( +6 / -6 )

Why not?

Because he’s not the President. You guys were saying that to us day in and day out not to mention his name anymore this January, new Sheriff in town, follow your own advice please.

-7 ( +5 / -12 )

For someone that claims not to watch Fox News, you sure seem to act like you know an awful lot about it. In fact, you can probably name the full day's lineup.

Right, because nowhere in the media is Tucker talked about. I'm willing to be that if GDTokyo lives in Japan he doesn't watch Fox news, unless he lives/works on a base.

Funny how mentioning Tucker the Trust Fund baby draws them all out of the woodwork.

I live in Japan, I'm neither American nor do I watch Fox but do read the UK Guardian (I'm not Brit either) and can confirm that Tucker Carlson and his ilk as well as their network are pretty much covered by that newspaper and other foreign ones as well.

(caveat: this does not exclude that foreign local versions of Alt-news peddlers do exist and whose activities are also covered by the news outlets).

Here the results of a quick search to Guardian articles I read about The Tuck.

https://www.google.com/search?q=tucker+carlson+guardian&rlz=1C5CHFA_enJP918JP918&sxsrf=AOaemvJZb34cDexRvgIcZoBXDukX45ZKjA:1636596965352&ei=5XyMYafxFLrm2roPq4m62Ak&start=0&sa=N&ved=2ahUKEwjn94nmno_0AhU6s1YBHauEDps4ChDy0wN6BAgBEDs&biw=1254&bih=697&dpr=2

I won't even mention how back then Fox' sale of the Iraq War to the American people was debunked all over the foreign press (English, French, German and Spanish language press to which I had access).

Nothing that makes me want to trust The Tuck or the network which puts him on the air.

2 ( +7 / -5 )

The most widely-believed falsehood is about the government exaggerating COVID deaths.

OK, that tells us what the mean by "falsehood". Anything that does not agree with official government narrative is a falsehood. Thanks to this study, I now have more respect for FOX viewers...

-2 ( +6 / -8 )

Wow, cites "mayonnaise" to prove his point Fox viewers aren't weak of mind...welcome to MAGA=world....

Trump has nothing to do with people wanting to discuss the pros and cons of the vaccine.

Neither does mayonnaise. However Trump is definitely pro-vaccine - he's said clearly "it's safe and it works", and "all my supporters should take it, frankly"... Yet they don't, why?

They're telling you the vaccine is ineffective and is dangerous -

No, they’re saying you have a choice whether you want to take it or not and the government doesn’t have the right to push you or intimidate you.

Ah, so they're pro-choice?

Dissenting opinions?

Exactly. I’m the US we have always had that historically.

Which are you - wine or coke?

0 ( +5 / -5 )

akeda: again, proof? You blew off my invitation to prove that the Fox people said the vaccines didn't work. So forgive me if I decline to take your second claim seriously. Perhaps some of them are, I don't watch the channel religiously. Yet I suspect you don't either. But none have ever been anti-vaxx, to borrow the oft used and innacurate accusation.

Why is it my job to prove your point? You claim they're only against government mandates. Prove it.

As for your "invitation":

What’s going on here? Why are they doing this? There must be some reason for it. We’ve been wondering about it all week. Yesterday we asked the CDC to explain the reasoning behind it. They couldn’t tell us. Today they did. What an explanation. It turns out that the COVID vaccines — those wonder drugs that were absolutely perfect, more impressive than the moon landing, the drugs you were not allowed to question in any way — don’t actually work in the way they told us they did. The science is more complicated than we thought.  

....

But Fauci is a liar, so that’s not what he said. Instead, as usual, he pretended to know what he doesn’t know and could not know. "The answer," Fauci replied, "is yes, it does." 

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-democrats-cdc-lying-covid-vaccine

Tucker Carlson again using Colin Powell's death to spread conspiracy theories about the vaccine, insinuating the vaccine is not in fact effective.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/fox-news-hosts-trashed-disgraceful-062434665.html

2 ( +6 / -4 )

Fox News lawyers have literally stated in court that Fox News is not actual news and is just entertainment. The lawyers also stated that no reasonable person would believe what Fox News says. This is what Fox News lawyers testify to in a court of law.

Fox News is the only so called news channel that the more you listen to the the less you actually know. Fox News solely exist as a right-wing conservative echo chamber. Fox News says what right-wing conservatives want to hear and right-wing conservatives says what they say is true because Fox News reported it.

There is no comparison between Fox News and CNN.

4 ( +9 / -5 )

*so its not media manipulation and government propaganda to present as factual to children and parents that "Big Bird" got a vaccine?*

For avian flu, no?

0 ( +2 / -2 )

Busby- yeah, Yahoo (like all the other Big Tech sources) is a great way to be informed.

There are lots of Blacks and Latinos in that group, as they are reluctant to get vaxxed. Doubt they all watch Fox News. And about those "29,000 COVID-linked fatalities", how many were FROM COVID? 6% typically, according to the CDC. Hospitals have been busy inflating stats for financial gain.

How are the vax passports and masks working in California? Their infection rate is 2x Florida's, which has a huge vulnerable population and no restrictions, so business and kids are thriving. Won't hear that from Yahoo or 95% of the "news sources" for that matter.

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Fox News is the only so called news channel that the more you listen to the the less you actually know. 

https://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5

1 ( +7 / -6 )

If anything, deaths from covid have been under rather than over-reported. Deaths only count those actually diagnosed with covid who died. A statistical analysis of the population profile of the US reveals that several hundred excess deaths have occurred in the US over the course of the pandemic. It is logical to assume that Covid is a leading factor in many of those excess deaths.

And Colin Powell did not die WITH covid. He died FROM covid. He would have died anyway fairly soon, but Covid is what actually caused his death.

This is the kind of nuance that Faux never tells their viewers because:

A) They don't want to hear it.

B) They are not intelligent enough to understand it.

-1 ( +8 / -9 )

*so its not media manipulation and government propaganda to present as factual to children and parents that "Big Bird" got a vaccine?**

It's called a PSA and Big Bird has been doing them on vaccinations since 1972.

So did Muhamad Ali and Elvis.

0 ( +6 / -6 )

Busby- yeah, Yahoo (like all the other Big Tech sources) is a great way to be informed.

The report is from the TEXAS DEPT OF HEALTH....Yahoo just reported it - because Fox certainly wouldn't. Guess you don't trust Gov Abbott's own website?

https://www.dshs.texas.gov/news/releases/2021/20211108.aspx

There are lots of Blacks and Latinos in that group, as they are reluctant to get vaxxed. Doubt they all watch Fox News. And about those "29,000 COVID-linked fatalities", how many were FROM COVID? 6% typically, according to the CDC. Hospitals have been busy inflating stats for financial gain.

Once more, out comes the race card....the far-right's favorite ploy when they have nothing else...

How are the vax passports and masks working in California? Their infection rate is 2x Florida's, which has a huge vulnerable population and no restrictions, so business and kids are thriving. Won't hear that from Yahoo or 95% of the "news sources" for that matter.

Fox News faux talking point - thanks for showing us that the article's premise about Fox viewers is definitely true....

-1 ( +7 / -8 )

I am not a "you guys" and I have never posted anything like that.

Well, you did in reminding us that Biden won, fine and now that he did, no need to invoke Trump for everything that goes wrong in this admin

President Trump is influential with his supporters

Yes and always will be, but that doesn't mean just because he supports this vaccine that we are all lemmings and follows him, that is the difference between conservatives (free think) and liberals (follow the herd) Trump likes and believes in his vaccine, good for him.

However Trump is definitely pro-vaccine

Good for him, I am as well, but I won't get the shot.

Ah, so they're pro-choice?

Abortion has nothing to do with this topic, nice try.

-5 ( +7 / -12 )

And Colin Powell did not die WITH covid. He died FROM covid. He would have died anyway fairly soon, but Covid is what actually caused his death. 

It is called the “but for” test. But for COVID, would Powell have lived? The answer is no, not for long at any rate. Ergo, he died with COVID not of it.

-6 ( +4 / -10 )

*Of the nearly 29,000 covid-linked fatalities in Texas during that period, more than *85% were unvaccinated individuals. 

yet posters here have claimed the "pandemic of the unvaccinated" is that 99% of the deaths were unvaccinated, then 95% so now its 85%? thats a pretty steep decline and a lot of vaccinated deaths.

also half the new COVID cases are now vaccinated people in some countries/areas.

neither deaths nor cases are trending in the direction of being favorable to "vaccinated people" not being part of the problem.

-3 ( +8 / -11 )

Another false claim. You said in January.

We are not talking about me, you guys said, Biden won, ok, so he won and now he is responsible for everything that has happened so far this year. Blaming all of the meltdowns that are taking place he is responsible for and if he doesn't get that basic and most fundamental point, he should lose badly in 2024

I wonder how many Republicans have been vaccinated and how many democrats have been vaccinated and how many "others" have been vaccinated? I do not think that type of data is even recorded. So you do not know actually.

No, I don't and never claimed to have, the Dems are pushing our way, or no way, even the SC told this admin they can't force people to take the shot and Biden is just ignoring what the SC said, it is outrageous.

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It is called the “but for” test. But for COVID, would Powell have lived? The answer is no, not for long at any rate. Ergo, he died with COVID not of it.

Lol the answer is yes, but for Covid 19, he would have been alive. because he died of Covid 19.

Also using your logic, no one actually dies from Covid. This was pretty silly.

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The truth is always only somewhere between the opposing extremes. And in most cases you can easily assign probabilities or calculate them, to see to which side it tends. Of course, only if you make that effort, instead of only consuming any favorite news channel or other single source for information. That won’t give you any picture at all.

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I am just curious when the talking points changed.

I remember the article the day that Colin Powell passed and the majority of posters were denying he died from COVID.

Because he was vaccinated and its simply not possible to die from COVID as a vaccinated person. the vaccine "works" so it has to be "something else" that causes the death.

That has been the narrative the whole time since Trump left. But when Trump was there, a motorcycle accident was a COVID death, falling off a roof was a COVID death. because they had to get that morbid death counter moving upward for partisan politics.

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Fox News lawyers have literally stated in court that Fox News is not actual news and is just entertainment. 

That should be clear to anyone when looking at Murdoch’s career. Integrity is not a word anyone would use about him. He is very successful at lowering the standards. This often drags competitors down to his level to stay competitive.

If he’d been born in the Internet age, he’d have been one of the first in making a fortune with extreme online porn.

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Joe Biden: Covid vaccination in US will not be mandatory

U.S. CDC chief says there will be no federal mandate on COVID-19 vaccine

Fauci says federal government won't mandate COVID vaccine passports

Fauci: Covid-19 Vaccines Unlikely To Be Mandatory

Pelosi: "So—so here is the thing. We are—we cannot require someone to be vaccinated. That's just not what we can do. It is a matter of privacy to know who is or who isn't."

What happened here, were these statements "falsehoods" too?

From "experimental vaccine" in January, to mandate in September.

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Watching Fox, believing what they say and ignoring what they don't say is not harmless entertainment. Joining the dots, the daily addiction to Murdochspeak has cost many naive folk dearly: losing their lives to Covid.

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Fox News lawyers have literally stated in court that Fox News is not actual news and is just entertainment.

I heard that debunked rumor that Mother Jones was peddling. What’s astounding to me is, instead of the left cleaning up their own mess and going back to doing what they’re actually supposed to do and that’s telling the news they wouldn’t be hurting and laying off people the way they’re doing and speaking of Brian Williams…

The left can demonize and use whatever epithet they want to in describing FNC viewers it won’t dissuade viewers and it won’t get them off the air.

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I wonder how many Republicans have been vaccinated and how many democrats have been vaccinated and how many "others" have been vaccinated? I do not think that type of data is even recorded. So you do not know actually.

So take your own advice and stop making everything political.

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But when Trump was there, a motorcycle accident was a COVID death, falling off a roof was a COVID death. 

Same in the UK - any death within 90 days of a COVID positive PCR test is counted as COVID fatality, even if on the 90th day you had the misfortune to be pumbled by a 44 tone truck.

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However Trump is definitely pro-vaccine

Good for him, I am as well, but I won't get the shot.

Why? Because it may be dangerous? Trump has said it isn't....you don't believe him? Is he lying?

Ah, so they're pro-choice?

Abortion has nothing to do with this topic, nice try.

Your words; "No, they’re saying you have a choice"...... Indeed, that's what pro-choice folks are saying...

Of the nearly 29,000 covid-linked fatalities in Texas during that period, more than ****85% were unvaccinated individuals. 

yet posters here have claimed the "pandemic of the unvaccinated" is that 99% of the deaths were unvaccinated, then 95% so now its 85%? thats a pretty steep decline and a lot of vaccinated deaths.

Abbott is saying 85% of the unvaccinated die of COVID in Texas - so you think he is faking the data?

And no answers to the question: Maybe because you can't explain why Fox's talking heads scream at their viewers that the vaccine is ineffective and that mandates take away your freedom.....when they are all vaccinated and readily comply with the company's vaccine passport and mask mandate. Why are they telling you one thing and doing another?

I have to say the comments by the far-right and Trump supporters here have definitely added more examples supporting the article's premise that Fox viewers are more uninformed and easily manipulated...

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Abbott is saying 85% of the unvaccinated die of COVID in Texas - so you think he is faking the data?

nope, probably correct for now, but you conveniently ignore your previous claims of unvaccinated being 99% of the deaths.

It is clear that the number of vaccinated deaths are on the rise. how can this be?

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If anyone knows otherwise, you have to pay to get the Fox channel in Japan; I do.

So, everyone criticizing negatively FOX pays to watch it, or they don't have access to the channel and are just mimicking what CNN (free in Japan) feeds them.

Which is it?

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Why?

Because I don’t want to, simple.

Your words; "No, they’re saying you have a choice"...... 

Exactly, so I won’t be bullied by anyone to take this vaccine, simple.

And no answers to the question:  Maybe because you can't explain why Fox's talking heads scream at their viewers that the vaccine is ineffective

The pundits didn’t say that. None on the prime time shows, they said they support it and it is up to you and it is your choice and that you should seek medical advice to see if the vaccine is good for you or not, that is what they have been saying

I have to say the comments by the far-right

There is no one on this thread that is far-right.

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Which is it?

I don't smoke cigarettes, but I'm well aware how ruinous they are to one's health.

Likewise with Fox and how they poison public discourse.

Also, there's this thing called the internet, we are all using it right, now, actually and it gives us access ands insight into the lies that fox peddles.

Pity you pay money to be lied at.

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If anyone knows otherwise, you have to pay to get the Fox channel in Japan; I do.

How do you watch the Fox channel in Japan?

CNN (free in Japan)

I had SkyPerfect in Japan and had CNN as part of a 60-odd channel package which I paid for. I got rid of CNN along with some Korean drama channels, a so-called History channel and other nonsense I didn’t watch.

Is CNN free now?

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