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Study says Britain must vaccinate 2 million a week to prevent a third COVID-19 wave

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Well at least the UK is actually taking action: A tiered lockdown system and the first country to start vaccinating. The bumbling Japanese government is risking people's lives by not testing and delaying the vaccination program until March next year. What's more, it is believed the general public may not have access to the vaccine until 2022.

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Well at least the UK is actually taking action

Exactly! The UK is testing 6,500 people per million vs Japan's 370 per million.

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Government struggling to vaccinate 2 million per month.

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The logistics of 2 million vaccinations a week is difficult, and the appalling lack of competence at the top isn’t helping, but speeding up the number of vaccinations seems to be the way out of this. The AstraZeneca-Oxford jab is easer to store and move which is a plus.

My mum had her first jab last week. A bit of a weight off my mind.

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Japan has less than 3000 fatalities since March.

Now look at the UK. Look at Europe. Look at the US.

Look at japan again and ask what can we learn from them. What are they doing right? Think out of the box.

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Look at japan again and ask what can we learn from them. What are they doing right? Think out of the box.

That can change in a New York minute, I wouldn't get too overly confident...

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The problem starts right in the heads. You cannot always blame the virus, because it is nothing else than dead material, not living, not moving itself, nothing... It’s all of us to blame, no one else. First, you have to formulate a goal. Already very happy with: Lower numbers? Enough testing? Having vaccines? Having working vaccines? Enough vaccinations? Having at least a herd immunity? That’s all the same senseless ** and will lead to nothing , at best only temporary non-substantial improvements. The goal must be the extinguished virus together with all its mutations or variants. No one even considered intending to work into this direction. That’s the one and only deadly error.

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Thursday that 600,000 people in the United Kingdom have received the first dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine since inoculations began

Bravo! That isn't bad is it ?

So 1000 refrigerators plus 3000 trained staff working in 3 shifts of 8 hours plus 1000 inoculation stations across the country at lets say 10 minutes per jab would give you 6000 per hour. 24x7x6000=1008000 per week.

2 mil per week isn't impossible .

UK will be out if this mess in Feb.

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who It is say this experimental vaccine doesn’t have serious long term side effects?

Folks might want to consider that the effects of the virus is pretty low if you are healthy.

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My mother had the first jab on Dec 21. It was the same day as Joe Biden.

Given how much the UK has struggled with PPE, mask wearing, contact tracing, etc., I would say this is going surprisingly well even if its not two million a week. They're doing the most vulnerable first.

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Given that people will need their second jab, a population of 66.6 million, and there are only 52 weeks in a year, at which point do they see this drive taking the required effect?

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who It is say this experimental vaccine doesn’t have serious long term side effects?

Folks might want to consider that the effects of the virus is pretty low if you are healthy.

So based on that unknown you prefer to be infected with covid19?

Death is only one of its known side effects.

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Quote: Folks might want to consider that the effects of the virus is pretty low if you are healthy.

Most folks had those thoughts for a minute in the beginning back in February, until it became clear very quickly after seeing random uber healthy people being taken down, that this was a fallacy. A tendency, perhaps, at best.

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That's weird, the vaccines haven't been tested to see if they reduce transmission so how do they know? Reference: https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4037

The UK is also recording all deaths within 28 days of a positive PCR test as coronavirus deaths but they're not checking if it's actually relevant: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/916035/RA_TechnicalSummary-_PHE_Data_Series_COVID_19_Deaths_20200812.pdf

So this looks like another model based on poor quality data - nonsense in, nonsense out. All the data shows that the coronavirus is seasonal so it'll naturally recede in spring: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32691843/

Follow science, the whole science and nothing but the science people

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So this looks like another model based on poor quality data - nonsense in, nonsense out. 

I don't agree. Using deaths within 28 days of a positive PCR test as a measure may not be entirely accurate but it is consistent. From a statistical point of view it is helpful in showing trends - are deaths from Covid increasing, decreasing, or staying the same.

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well as long as the predictions of all these experts continue to be right on the money, vaccinate away!

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The logistical problem limiting the programme at the moment is the need to keep the vaccine at such a low temperature, this constrains transport and limits the number of places where it can be stored prior to use. As it is in batches of I believe over 900 this requires people arriving at a central point for vaccination or they will be wasted. In seeking to vaccinate the elderly and most vulnerable first this is a problem as they often can not leave the home and getting the vaccine to them is difficult.

If/when the Oxford vaccine is approved and rolled out a lot of the current constraints will disappear as the UK runs an annual flu vaccination programme so there is a lot of infrastructure in place which can be easily added to as refrigeration to the level required is easily available. Two million a month should be quite achievable, always supposing the research this article references doesn’t fall at the peer review stage.

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UK will be out if this mess in Feb.

Not likely, but with the AstraZeneca vaccine now approved the NHS can call on the staff at local GP surgeries to radically increase the vaccination rate. Realistically the UK could have the elderly, key workers, the vulnerable and the over 50s done by May.

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