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Swing-state Republicans pin virus fallout on Democrats

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“Some politicians who started off this crisis with more goodwill and higher ratings might be able to (avoid blame), but I don't see where the president can do that,” 

Exactly. Trump can say 'I don't take responsibility for that' all he wants. His media can push the same message. His followers can parrot the messages.

But between now and November it should become clearer to more voters the male who's claimed to 'have all the authority' is the one who has to take responsibility.

He, his media and followers gave him credit for steroid-ing up the solid economy inherited (story of Trump's life) from President Obama. Were they honest (I know, I know) they'd discredit him for the economy's tanking. Again, he 'has all the authority'.

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Call Nanci Pelosi and her team for a second impeachment... Nanci can do it. She is a good girl.. Let Obama also come on board. Shift can shine again. Jerry will have the last word. Do it now.. otherwise it will be late guys ...

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Just another day in the Disunited States of America. It might not be business as usual, but it's certainly politics as usual.

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@non party  Do it now.. otherwise it will be late guys ...

Maybe you can help Americans by telling us what leaders in your country are doing to deal with the virus.

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The fist wave has not even peaked yet. Not even close. Not even flattened.

But the GOP and its supporters want people to go back to work.

They are literally asking people to die.

This is insanity.

This is not opinion. It is fact.

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Uh ... How are you going to defeat a virus with a rifle?

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Exactly. Trump can say 'I don't take responsibility for that' all he wants. His media can push the same message. His followers can parrot the messages.

And what’s the Democrats message? Biden will give you free stuff? For how long and we want to impose more taxes during this pandemic or give out higher entitlements while the country remains on lockdown and then we run out of money and then what?

But between now and November it should become clearer to more voters the male who's claimed to 'have all the authority' is the one who has to take responsibility. 

This is true or they can go with a man who’s dementia is worsening day by day, can’t even imagine the barrage of blows he’ll get by Trump in the debates.

He, his media and followers gave him credit for steroid-ing up the solid economy inherited (story of Trump's life) from President Obama.

Wrong. Absolute debunked ludicrous.

https://townhall.com/columnists/carljackson/2018/09/10/5-reasons-obama-cant-take-credit-for-trumps-good-economy-n2517586

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@bas4f Wrong. Absolute debunked ludicrous.

Here's a different perspective.

Isn't it great to have a free, for-profit press and live in nations where people are allowed access to a full range of opinions that fit their worldview, from all forms of media . Can you believe people actually attack a free press? SMH

Can you imagine living in a place like China, Saudi Arabia, Iran where the state controls information, or even a state like Russia where the state 'partially' controls information.

Trump Didn’t Make This Economy. The low unemployment rate, decent wage growth, and solid corporate earnings are all artifacts of a long expansion, not signs that a very stable genius in the White House has unleashed American enterprise.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/02/trump-didnt-make-this-economy/606115/

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Isn't it great to have a free, for-profit press and live in nations where people are allowed access to a full range of opinions that fit their worldview, from all forms of media . Can you believe people actually attack a free press? SMH

I remember so well that 8 years ago FNC and every other conservative news outlet was attacked daily or that certain conservative news WH correspondents were excluded often from the WH briefings, but yeah, I get your point.

Trump Didn’t Make This Economy. The low unemployment rate, decent wage growth, and solid corporate earnings are all artifacts of a long expansion, not signs that a very stable genius in the White House has unleashed American enterprise.

https://nypost.com/2018/09/12/this-economy-definitely-is-not-obamas-recovery/

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Why do you need to bring a rifle to a peaceful protest?

The protests are nothing but theater created for right-wing blogs. Pay them no attention. Just calmly remove all Republicans from elected offices and positions of influence, and then we patriots can take our country back.

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If Democrats had been in charge of the U.S. legislatures, and WH, when this virus arrived from Wuhan, China, the Democrats open-borders policy would have allowed hundreds of thousands of infected illegal aliens to overwhelm the U.S. healthcare systems.

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Time and the virus will make up the voters' minds, not the politicians.

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They're playing politics with people's lives

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@bass4fbut yeah, I get your point.

Good. Though of course individuals should have the right to freely express opinions of all sorts, including opinions saying limit media's roles, the repeated messages from those constantly attacking a free, for-profit press not only get old, but are too often aimed at undermining democratic principles.

But I think that's what some of them want. Some of those posters must think restricting information like China, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia and other authoritarian states do is preferable to the freedoms most 'western' states permit. They seem to actually prefer authoritarian governments. Can you believe that?

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PTownsendToday  07:26 am JST

@non party Do it now.. otherwise it will be late guys ...

Maybe you can help Americans by telling us what leaders in your country are doing to deal with the virus.

I do not know about your country? There are many US citizen with weird thoughts about own nationality. For those people Trump have a good advice.. " Go back to the xxxx hole who came from".)

Since my passport says USA there is no further recognition from you to have a new citizenship. Thank you.

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https://townhall.com/columnists/carljackson/2018/09/10/5-reasons-obama-cant-take-credit-for-trumps-good-economy-n2517586

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/townhall/

Overall, we rate Townhall Right Biased based on story selection that always favors the right and denigrates the left. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to the use of columnists that have poor fact check records.

https://nypost.com/2018/09/12/this-economy-definitely-is-not-obamas-recovery/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-post/

Overall we rate the New York Post on the far end of Right-Center Biased due to story selection that typically favors the Right and Mixed (borderline questionable) for factual reporting based on several failed fact checks.

If the sources you post are not trustworthy, don't expect anyone to believe them.

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the Democrats open-borders policy would have allowed hundreds of thousands of infected illegal aliens to overwhelm the U.S. healthcare systems.

Are there many illegal aliens arriving from China and Europe?

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Good. Though of course individuals should have the right to freely express opinions of all sorts, including opinions saying limit media's roles, the repeated messages from those constantly attacking a free, for-profit press not only get old, but are too often aimed at undermining democratic principles. 

That goes for both sides.

But I think that's what some of them want. Some of those posters must think restricting information like China, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia and other authoritarian states do is preferable to the freedoms most 'western' states permit. They seem to actually prefer authoritarian governments. Can you believe that

Beware of the attempted rise of socialism.

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It's nauseating to see Republican Trump cultists carrying signs that say "Sacrifice the weak". The GOP despises the poor and the weak, even though they are more necessary to society functioning than their precious billionaires.

As proof: if the billionaires are the most important drivers of the economy, why not only send billionaires back to work? All 540 of them, to run the entire country. Really use their Randian superhuman powers.

It wouldn't work because the working class are the real drivers of the economy.

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Jsapc - Are there many illegal aliens arriving from China and Europe?

Not many. You may have heard that some U.S. elected legislators had chosen to close the borders. Imagine how many people in the U.S. would have gotten sick, or died, if the U.S. had been subjected to the Democrat Party's open-borders policy.

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Not many. 

So how would "hundreds of thousands of infected illegal aliens" have swarmed the country exactly? The infection originally came from China, Trump closed some travel from China (when the infection was already in the US) and even then a lot of new infected people came in... Through Europe.

So what illegal immigrants are you talking about?

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@bass4fBeware of the attempted rise of socialism.

The US has been a blend of capitalism and socialism for decades.

Beware the rise of national socialism, which has always lurked near the surface of the US and is being pushed higher by Trump and his fellow 'elite'.

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Jsapc - So how would "hundreds of thousands of infected illegal aliens" have swarmed the country exactly? The infection originally came from China, Trump closed some travel from China (when the infection was already in the US) and even then a lot of new infected people came in... Through Europe.

So what illegal immigrants are you talking about?

Because the border crossings WERE restricted, and air travel from China WAS restricted, hundreds of thousands of infected illegal aliens would not have been allowed into the U.S.. Illegal aliens would have been well aware that they would be facing increased security if they had attempted to enter the U.S..

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Because the border crossings WERE restricted, and air travel from China WAS restricted, hundreds of thousands of infected illegal aliens would not have been allowed into the U.S

But you said yourself that there aren't many illegal aliens coming from China and Europe. How did a restriction on travel from China stop hundreds of thousands of infected illegal immigrants then?

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Ok WaPo, NY Times and CNN all not trustworthy based on your website.

If the sources you post are not trustworthy, don't expect anyone to believe them.

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Since my passport says USA there is no further recognition from you to have a new citizenship. Thank you.

Of course US passport holders are free to express any opinion. Even opinions favoring national socialism. Many of my friends are Americans whose families fled from nations destroyed by national socialism. They don't want to see that happen in the US. I don't either. But like you said, it's your right.

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Ok WaPo, NY Times and CNN all not trustworthy based on your website.

The "factual reporting" part is the most important as far as trust goes, much more than the political leaning. So WaPo and the NYT are amongst the most trustworthy sources out there (except for op-ed pieces, which are people's opinion)(and the NYT regularly publishes opinions from both sides, which really angers the far-left, I might add)

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Fake news or alt facts from these protestors.

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Jsapc - But you said yourself that there aren't many illegal aliens coming from China and Europe. How did a restriction on travel from China stop hundreds of thousands of infected illegal immigrants then?

By definition, a restriction of travel would have prevented travel.

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Restricting travel from China sent them to Italy and other Europe locations instead.

Where they just devastated that poor unsuspecting country. That could have been the USA if it wasnt stopped early.

Dont you remember this?

*Feb 4, 2020 - Mayor of Florence Dario Nardella has suggested residents hug Chinese people to encourage them in the fight against the novel coronavirus.*

Thats how New York is claiming the virus came from Europe. From people from China who went to Europe first instead of the USA.

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Dont you remember this?

No I don't remember. Why don't you post a link to the rightwing birdcage liner article you're referencing?

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takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com - No I don't remember. Why don't you post a link to the rightwing birdcage liner article you're referencing?

I remember it. Maybe it wasn't covered by the CNN-types.

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Restricting travel from China sent them to Italy and other Europe locations instead

You mean to say that chinese people who fully intended to come to America and were stopped by the ban... Then decided to go to Europe instead? Do you really think that sounds like a reasonable?

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By definition, a restriction of travel would have prevented travel.

Travel from China, yeah. Where no illegal aliens come from. So how would a China travel ban stop hundred of thousands of infected illegal immigrants?

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Yes, they couldnt come to USA so they went to Europe. Correct.

You mean to say that chinese people who fully intended to come to America and were stopped by the ban... Then decided to go to Europe instead? Do you really think that sounds like a reasonable?

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Then unfortunately they (or people they infected) came to New York. This is why (a) NY claims their virus is from Europe and (b) California was not hit as hard as would have been expected being a primary destination of Chinese tourists (and much closer to China than NYC).

Europe to NYC closer than Europe to LA.

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Yes, they couldnt come to USA so they went to Europe.

Care to give us some figures to prove this bizarre and slightly racist claim?

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now back to the USA and swing states. Michigan is a swing state and is probably the worst hit state other than New York, specifically Detroit city.

The DNC held a campaign rally on March 9th with Biden, Cory Booker and Kamala Harris and 2000 people in a gymnasium. Does this have nothing to do with the high number of transmissions and deaths in Michigan now? So yeah I see why Republicans are "pinning the virus fallout on democrats" as the article says.

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so back to what you deflecting from and the actual topic.

How much negative impact do you think the DNC sponsored rally in Detroit on Mar 9th had on the current number of coronavirus infections and death in Michigan, a Democrat run swing state?

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