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Taliban, Afghan government reportedly in talks to end war

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I wish them all the best! :clap:

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Despite all the military power that is brought to bear upon the Taliban by the US, they are still ineffective.

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Reconciling is all good and dandy, so long as it means they don't regain any power to govern in any part of Afghanistan.

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It's a tactical ploy of deception by the taliban. Just wait and see...

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Reconciling is all good and dandy, so long as it means they don't regain any power to govern in any part of Afghanistan.

That's rich. US and NATO forces are the only thing stopping them. Or do you actually imagine UN forces and pacifists at their keyboards singing Kumbaya are gonna stop them?

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TimR - "Or do you actually imagine UN forces and pacifists at their keyboards singing Kumbaya are gonna stop them?"

TimR illustrates once again how out of touch he is with reality...

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jason6: Despite all the military power that is brought to bear upon the Taliban by the US, they are still ineffective.

So the Taliban leaders are making overtures to reconcile with the Afghan government and end the war because things are going well for them?

I think it's a great opportunity but in all reality there needs to be concrete mechanisms in place to make sure the Taliban don't return to their old form. We've seen it time and time again in Pakistan...peace deals, the army leaves, the Taliban start up again without any troop presence. And even then there will still be holdouts who won't agree to any peace deal who will have to be dealt with.

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The Taliban have caused untold misery in Afghanistan and more recently in Pakistan. They should surrender, the top leaders put on trial and either executed or imprisoned, the grunts, depending on what crimes it can be proved they have committed, executed, imprisoned or re-trained to contribute to society.

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It's a bitter pill for Washington to swallow, but it will turn out that since killing every last Taliban & AQ member is equivalent to being an exercise in futility, they'll be forced to enter into negotiations with them at some point in order to claim the victory they desparately need.

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If the military was allowed to fight properly, the Taliban wouldn't even be around to make such a deal...

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If the military was allowed to fight properly, the Taliban wouldn't even be around to make such a deal...

Ah yes, the time-honoured US strategy of carpet bombing.

You do realise that the US military ostensibly acts within certain rules of engagement so as to reduce the terrible civilian losses they inflicted as they rampaged through Iraq?

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Aunty, While you're at, how about throwing your advice over to the other side.

Are you the type of person who shakes hands with the school yard bully before you throw down (or in your case "put up your dukes") Rules are to be followed, but when they work against you, what the hell is the point of them.

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Americans killing for sport in Afghanistan will probably do more harm than good for USA. Also, it would be wise of Americans to start to fess up for the real reasons for the invasion. It had nothing to do with 9/11, Bin Laden or Al Qaeda. No one believes this.

The main reasons are. Opium, oil and gas. CIA wants to cash in & embrace organized crime. The US wants a share transit of oil from one of the last places on the planet with a huge reserve of oil & gas.

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The main reasons are. Opium, oil and gas. CIA wants to cash in & embrace organized crime. The US wants a share transit of oil from one of the last places on the planet with a huge reserve of oil & gas.

Ah, crazy conspiracy theories. Actually, that 1-3 trillion dollars worth of rare minerals that was just discovered is Afghanistans' best hope to put itself back together again. If they can avoid funneling all the profits off to corrupt gov't officials, that is...

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A solution like this really is about the best we can hope to get out of this situation. Perhaps the withdrawal of US troops in Iraq that is happening now has shown that the US government will honour it's pledges and has therefore garnered some trust with the less radical members of the Taliban. Then again, they might just be playing along to get the foreign troops out of the country so they can take it back over again once they're gone. Who knows. Honesty and integrity are two words that don't spring to mind when you think of the Taliban.

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Of course it's about energy. But not entirely, and not in the way you think it is.

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There are some nice nutball conspiracies floating around here.

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I really don't care if the Taliban rule Afghanistan or not. I only care that they don't harbor my enemies so those enemies can plot against me. If this country plays it's cards right it could benefit like Japan did post 1945 but I with this religion in the way I don't foresee any rational thought entering into the equation. I hope I'm wrong on that but only the future will tell... or some left wing nuts that usually come here to tell us the way it really is.

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If this country plays it's cards right it could benefit like Japan did post 1945

Ah yes, the benefit of American occupation then transformation into a client state. Don't kid yourself that the American's offered anything other than protectorate status to the Japanese post-'45.

They interfered in the domestic politics, pressured them into accepting policy dictats from Washington and have used one of thier islands as a forward base of operations for years. Thank goodness the Japanese have managed to hold onto thier identity through all this.

Sadly, however, they lost most of their dignity.

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It's a bitter pill for Washington to swallow, but it will turn out that since killing every last Taliban & AQ member is equivalent to being an exercise in futility, they'll be forced to enter into negotiations with them at some point in order to claim the victory they desparately need.

No its not bitter at all considering they did this in Iraq recently which has turned out to work fairly well in Americas failure, this is no different then the negotiations the US did when it came to Unit 731 or nazi rocket scientists.

Also to be fair both sides will be forced into negotiations, for all the Taliban rhetoric saying they won't do any negotiations until foreign forces will leave its just not going to happen, they will be forced to negotiate with Nato just like Nato will be forced to negotiate with the Taliban and there is no shame in that nor is it a sign of weakness or strength on either side.

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