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The pragmatic, political view is that there is a new reality . . .

So, the Taliban's new FM wants to be pragmatic?

Surly, then, as a newly-minted pragmatist, he himself must realize the absolute absurdity for that which he begs.

Again, this is perfidious nonsense. The U.N. Credentials Committee should decline without further delay.

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To announce their new policies of inclusiveness, diversity and freedom of speech. Oh, and their commitment to fighting climate change

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Tell them they can if all their representatives are women.

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No. (Insert exploitive her) NO!

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I just have a sinking feeling this administration will give them some form of legitimacy in some fashion.

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Get your country in order (without the "wests" money), and you'll have earned yourself the ability to represent Afghanistan.

Oh, you gotta get the IS groups out of the country first too. Get your infrastructure back up and running.... hmm, seems a lot of the intellectual Afghani's (men and women) didn't want to stick around.

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bass4funk

I just have a sinking feeling this administration will give them some form of legitimacy in some fashion.

Trump already did that last year.

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The committee is made up of Russia, China, the United States, Sweden, South Africa, Sierra Leone, Chile, Bhutan and the Bahamas.

Thanks to the presence of Russia and China, I sense trouble and, in the case of the veto, obstruction. Because these two countries absolutely must always be in opposition to anything..

Not to mention that Russia declared immediately after the US left Afghanistan that it was willing to deal with the Taliban as the current government.

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The Taliban have won the right to speak their mind to the world.

After enduring decades of invasion from a technologically and economically superior force, the Taliban has shown that old fashioned values can persevere.

The Taliban's victory and humiliation of the USA is an inspiration for all the world's people impoverished by imperial colonialism; they have as much right to tell their tale as anyone.

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Trump already did that last year.

No, because the Taliban wasn’t in the leadership position running the country.

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I just have a sinking feeling this administration will give them some form of legitimacy in some fashion.

"It is a pleasure to talk to you. You are a tough people and have a great country, and I understand that you are fighting for your homeland."

Donald J. Trump, Speaking on the Phone with the Taliban in 2020

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The Taliban have won the right to speak their mind to the world.

How so?

After enduring decades of invasion from a technologically and economically superior force, the Taliban has shown that old fashioned values can persevere.

7th century misogynistic values.

The Taliban's victory and humiliation of the USA is an inspiration for all the world's people impoverished by imperial colonialism; they have as much right to tell their tale as anyone.

Even though if they’re all historic lies? They just killed in cold blood over 20 Afghan fighters. And for what? Helping allied forces? Again, this administration would be foolish to give these thugs any political legitimacy.

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I just have a sinking feeling this administration will give them some form of legitimacy in some fashion.

You should I have continued more on with your comment, Your exactly right. This (soft ice cream) administration can not pick a side. And way worse than the Obama admin. At least Obama had some spine and teeth to show when needed.

administration will give them some form of legitimacy-Just the sheer fact were acknowledging them in media, you ought to know it's too launch the Idea of giving known terrorists a seat at the U.N.?

Seems the work is ready for the Biden administration to sell out America at all costs to break bread with thy enemy.

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Let both governments speak or let neither government speak. When they do, nations who would like to address their comments will be able to do so.

I have a feeling neither government will be speaking this year a the US will veto the Taliban government and China will veto the Civilian government.

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--Trump already did that last year.

No, because the Taliban wasn’t in the leadership position running the country.

So he praised and legitimized a terrorist group that everyone knew would take over the country after the U.S. left. Or did Trump just think the Taliban were a JV team?

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Mr. Danielsan, So, you would agree and encourage full international recognition of Taiwan? Of the World Uyghur Congress? Who gets a seat representing Myanmar? What about Yeman? In Sudan? Who doesn't? Where, if anywhere, is the line, in your logic?

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The Taliban's new foreign minister has asked to address world leaders at this week's United Nations General Assembly meeting in New York, a U.N. spokesman said Tuesday.

He wants to do two things;

Praise Trump, who caved on all his demands and signed the surrender document that also released 5K Taliban, ISIS, and Al Qaeda prisoners that assisted in the takeover in Sep....

Film a travel spot promoting Texas as the new Afghanistan vacation area, the perfect place for Afghanees to holiday and enjoy minority rule, power outages, open carry of their AK47, and an environment that suppresses women's rights...

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Maybe, just maybe . . . could a diplomatic dialog start on several festering issues at the same time? Linkage! What might be the acceptable standard for Taliban recognition internationally, can at the same time involve full international recognition for an independent Taiwan! Mabe Kashmir? What would it take for a recognition of Uyghur autonomy? How about Palestine?

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In this case, possession really is nine-tenths of the law. I don't foresee the UN rejecting the Taliban, as a simple matter of acknowledging reality. What possible use would there be in recognizing the previous administration's representative, when said representative would have zero power? It's possible they might decide that there is no legitimate representative, either Taliban or Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, but that seems unlikely.

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So he praised and legitimized a terrorist group that everyone knew would take over the country after the U.S. left.

Biden could have changed that to him and his party’s benefit and he didn’t, now he’ll be remembered historically and unkindly as the man that put the Taliban back into power on the 20th anniversary of 9/11

Or did Trump just think the Taliban were a JV team?

Not sure, but he wasn’t President a few weeks ago when Afghanistan was botched.

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Praise Trump, who caved on all his demands and signed the surrender document that also released 5K Taliban, ISIS, and Al Qaeda prisoners that assisted in the takeover in Sep....

What was Obama’s excuse to release the Gitmo-5 some of the most violent Taliban fighters in exchange for an American deserter? Don’t think the trade-off was worth it. He was warned, but he didn’t care, not surprised.

Film a travel spot promoting Texas as the new Afghanistan vacation area, the perfect place for Afghanees to holiday and enjoy minority rule, power outages, open carry of their AK47, and an environment that suppresses women's rights

Don't know what that ridiculous rant was about but each to his own. Lol

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Praise Trump, who caved on all his demands and signed the surrender document that also released 5K Taliban, ISIS, and Al Qaeda prisoners that assisted in the takeover in Sep....

What was Obama’s excuse to release the Gitmo-5 some of the most violent Taliban fighters in exchange for an American deserter? Don’t think the trade-off was worth it. He was warned, but he didn’t care, not surprised.

That's it? A weak "But What About"? Why did Trump release all those 5K terrorists who then assisted in the takeover?

Film a travel spot promoting Texas as the new Afghanistan vacation area, the perfect place for Afghanees to holiday and enjoy minority rule, power outages, open carry of their AK47, and an environment that suppresses women's rights

Don't know what that ridiculous rant was about but each to his own. Lol

To each his own? My body, my choice? Not in Texas - just ask a woman...

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Let them talk and join the discussion.

At least we could gain a better understanding of what the Taliban hope to achieve regardless of the results.

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he’ll be remembered historically and unkindly as the man that put the Taliban back into power

Nah.

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Nah

To the far left, probably more so, to the moderates, maybe even a sigh of relief once the 3 years are over with.

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That's it? A weak "But What About"? Why did Trump release all those 5K terrorists who then assisted in the takeover?

Trump is not the President. What Trump “did” in the past has nothing to do with the decisions that the current President made. I get it why you guys do this, but sadly, and going by this guys words “the buck stops with me as President” and for the first time in his political life, he’s absolutely right. Biden made this, he owns it.

To each his own? My body, my choice? Not in Texas - just ask a woman.

Wrong thread there guy.

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the buck stops here!

Yet it doesnt, and no one on the left calls it out when it is falsely and incessantly repeated as if true.

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Dont make that mistake. Ideologically they are still in bed with ISIS and Al Qaeda. Legitimizing a radical organisation will encourage others to do the same

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Good idea, taking into custody those terrorist gangs when showing up and bring them to The Hague. I don’t understand why they are fully equipped, pampered and supported by the whole world while others , for example from the former Serbia-Kosovo conflict , rot in international prison for many years.

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Trump already surrendered to the Taliban last year. If they were not in power or expected to be in power why did he negotiate with them?

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Trump already surrendered to the Taliban last year. If they were not in power or expected to be in power why did he negotiate with them?

Joe Biden: Let me be clear, the buck stops with me.”

No arguments here. He’s the current President, so go for it.

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bass4funk

Joe Biden: Let me be clear, the buck stops with me.”

You seem to have forgotten that the buck always stops with the president because he is also the Commander-in-Chief, just like all previous presidents. Bush, Obama, and Trump get to own their parts of the 20-year war.

The decision to leave Afghanistan was taken by Trump. It would have been very difficult for Biden to reverse the pullout or even prolong it. Not enough boots were left on the ground.

Americans wanted to end the war. That has happened.

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I just have a sinking feeling this administration will give them some form of legitimacy in some fashion.

The former guy negotiated with the taliban, ignored the legitimately elected government, released 5000 prisoners in promise of a Nobel nomination.

I am sure when one sinks that low for a Nobel, all sinking feelings become irrelevant !!!

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*That's it? A weak "But What About"? Why did Trump release all those 5K terrorists who then assisted in the takeover?*

Trump is not the President. What Trump “did” in the past has nothing to do with the decisions that the current President made. I get it why you guys do this, but sadly, and going by this guys words “the buck stops with me as President” and for the first time in his political life, he’s absolutely right. Biden made this, he owns it.

Uh-huh....once again, why did he release the 5K terrorist prisoners who then assisted the takeover?

To each his own? My body, my choice? Not in Texas - just ask a woman.

Wrong thread there guy.

Says the guy who posted on this thread about Guantanamo....

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These 5000 prisoners must be superhuman.

Simply because they exist there was no other possible outcome there the current office holder could have produced except that the taliban take over the whole country in 10 days.

nothing at all he could have done to still prevail despite these 5000 people? He surely thought so when he announced the Taliban wouldn’t be taking over.

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All the Taliban leadership was in the presidential palace hanging out all at one time.

nothing that could have been done in that moment?

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the buck stops here!

Yet it doesnt, and no one on the left calls it out when it is falsely and incessantly repeated as if true.

Amazing, the Trump supporters since Jan 18th 2021...."The buck stops with the President!".....

Yet for the previous 4 years it was the exact opposite;

"President Donald Trump on Friday deflected blame for his administration’s lagging ability to test Americans for the coronavirus outbreak, insisting instead — without offering evidence — that fault lies with his predecessor, Barack Obama. “I don't take responsibility at all,” Trump said defiantly, pointing to an unspecified “set of circumstances” and “rules, regulations and specifications from a different time.”*

And we know what they think of Trump's responsibility for the Jan 6th insurrection...which he incited and "happened on his watch".....

One flip after another flop...

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