Taliban promise 'good news' soon on girls' education


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Today from Human Rights Watch:

In recent weeks the Taliban cracked down hard on women’s rights activists. They broke down women’s doors in the middle of the night, raided safe houses, and coerced confessions from women’s rights protesters. Women activists who fearlessly chanted “bread, work, freedom” on the streets of Afghanistan’s cities have been abducted and beaten. Some reappeared, looking shaken and terrified, praising the Taliban in a propaganda video; the fate of others remains unknown.


The Taliban appear to be finding ways to benefit from the humanitarian crisis. It shields them from blame before some of the population—they can point the finger at the foreigners. And it compels the international community to urgently and intensively engage with them, as donors seek to get aid to starving Afghans, in ways that the Taliban see as conferring legitimacy. The international community has significant power to hold the Taliban accountable — the Taliban craves legitimacy and needs funding. This power must be used to hold the Taliban to account for their human rights violations, not to punish the Afghan people.

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Even if what you're saying is true, which is not by the way because Taliban is Sunni and mutah is practiced by Shia only, that has nothing to do with having a legalised sex industry ( corporates hiring women to provide sexual services for men) with all the damages it implies on women and girls (under aged included) mentally, physically,and socially.

What is practiced in Afghanistan is exclusively marriage, legally, socially and religiously approved.

We should look in the mirror first, before trying to give lessons on how women should be treated.

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Sorry, but the Taliban allow and practice seigha / fegha / mutah, a form of temporary marriage, a "tradition" that is known as having no foundation or acceptance in Islamic law. Easily obtained and just as easily ended, by the same cleric. Some (current estimates unavailable from NGOs) one hour or one day "marriages" are coerced and forced upon women as blackmail. Or open consentual prostitution. And - as reported by several large media outlets - have involved girls as young as nine. So, sexual molestation and assault and child rape for the day, is something different than sex trafficking?

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Don't get me wrong. I think the Taliban is bad. But how to move things in the right direction? I hope you're not proposing another invasion. Violence against women won't just go away overnight. There are hints that some in the Taliban are not so extreme. I think a gentle push may be better than any strong action.

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albaleoToday  06:06 pm JST”

I tend to see the Taliban as a very broad organization with a range of views.

Is it generally considered okay to throw acid on girls who do not dress as requested, or is that a crime? Can woman go outside without being accompanied by men even if they are covered from head to toe? Can all women work and be educated? It’s pretty difficult to be neutral with some of this stuff. I can’t imagine how women who previously had the rights of human beings feel about their new status.

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I tend to see the Taliban as a very broad organization with a range of views. From extreme conservatism to something slightly more modern. I imagine there is quite a bit of internal disagreement. And while I'd like to see better opportunities for women, I'm worried that exerting too much external pressure will make things worse. I think slow moves in the right direction will be better than trying to force radical change. Smiles and frowns rather than sanctions and howling.

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@ theFu

I totally agree, women anywhere should be educated and have unobstructed access to education... but you're missing out that Afghanistan just came out of a devastating war, judging it as if nothing happen can't be fair and just.

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Waah, this article is about Afghanistan and education of females there, not anywhere else. A few years ago, women attended college, medical school, traveled as they wanted, held important positions in the govt and in businesses.

In Feb 2022, women were allowed back into college - segregated, subject choices limited and burqas made compulsory. ... but if younger women aren't allowed to gain the knowledge and skills to enter college, those classes will soon end. Also, since women aren't allowed to work, it is hard for a family to pay for education.

Data show women have lost jobs at a higher rate than men in recent months - some were thrown out of work due to Taliban restrictions in the immediate aftermath of their conquest - and some rights won over 20 years of Western-backed governments have been reversed.

When your country puts up barriers for 50% of the population from access to as much education as they like and opportunities to use that education, it is nearly impossible for that country to compete in the world. It is a poverty cycle. A working woman raises the incomes for not just themselves, but for the entire village where they live. Woman who aren't allowed/able to work are a drain on village resources.

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What about invading countries, and turn it into historical ruins, is that terrorism or just mr supremacist madness to get you comply with his rule of conduct?

Seriously, who is going to pay the Afghans, Iraqis, Syrians .. for the damages?

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Terrorist. As in an advocate or practitioner of terrorism as a means of coercion and violence against non-combatants. Terrorism. As in the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion and violence against non-combatants. Violence and coercion, as practiced against women by the Taliban, as well documented by UN organizations and countless NGOs and internationalists (who also suffer in their hands). So, how about unrepentent terrorist, instead? That works.

As for war against women and children, it is an opinion widely held and well documented as fact by multiple sources.

As for conditions placed on religious displays and clothing by any country, against anyone, it is yours and for your friends to present any such evidence to international organizations for investigation and action. Such as already has been performed against the Taliban. Resulting in sanctions.

Once a Taliban, always a Taliban.

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Taliban promise 'good news' soon on girls' education:

Good news soon? Did they not say that before and then change their mind?

Don't take their words superficially.

It could mean only daughters of Taliban officials can go to school, not others..

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"..this most vile batch of terrorists.."

That's pretty much out of hate than reason, as I haven't came across any news accusing Taliban of committing a terrorist attack elsewhere in the world. Inside Afghanistan they were fighting for what the Ukrainians are fighting for today.

As for what you call " its war against women and girls.'

Let me remind you that Muslim school girls in France and in other countries are being banned from attending classes if seen with headscarfs.. I haven't heard anyone calling for any kind of sanctions against those countries, have you?

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This guy gave an interview a week past to another news organization, telling the interviewer the same message: good news, very soon, you will see.

Timing is everything. Today, Taliban authorities announced that they have dissolved the country's Human Rights Commission, deeming it unnecessary.

UNSC is scheduled to consider next month whether to adjust the current regime of sanctions against the leaders. One of the sanctions included a ban on the leadership’s international travel, but the UNSC suspended that ban three years ago for the sake of a peace and reconciliation” process, that has showed no progress. But it won't anymore, since - along with the human rights commission being disbanded - the Taliban also eliminated the associated High Council for National Reconciliation.

This is nothing more than a creeping normalization of international relations and recognition with a bloody and brutal authoritarian and extremist regime that shows absolutely no signs of ending its war against women and girls.

Any slacking of sanctions against this most vile batch of terrorists, without a firm commitment with international verification of reform, will be an outrage and a permanent stain on the United Nations.

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