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© Copyright 2021 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.Texas GOP advances voting restrictions as hundreds push back
By ACACIA CORONADO and PAUL J. WEBER AUSTIN, Texas©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
66 Comments
GdTokyo
Texas already has the most stringent voter requirements in the nation. Requirements that by design are meant to suppress black and brown votes. Tell me, how is voter security “enhanced” by forbidding AM voting on Sunday?
It’s not because the Sunday “Souls to the polls” campaign in African American communities strikes fear in the GOP white mens’ hearts, is it?
There was zero election fraud, none, nada, zilch, zip. This is a solution in search of a problem. Unless the problem is that when people vote, Republicans lose.
Jsapc
None of these very "necessary" restrictions would have happened if Trump had won reelection. Sore losers just dishonestly and openly rigging the system in their own favor. Shameful, disgusting, pathetic. The only words that can describe the modern GP.
The Avenger
GOP: Big Lie, Insurrection, Voter Suppression
DEM: Shots, Checks, Jobs
Bob Fosse
This’ll mobilise communities to vote. It’ll backfire and after losing bigly again there’ll be no more excuses.
Who am I kidding, of course there’ll be more excuses.
Commodore Perry
“It is a suppression of our constitutional rights,” Tate said.
Take it to court.
Republicans made clear they intended to advance a new election bill — which would prohibit 24-hour polling places, ban drop boxes and stop drive-thru voting
Sounds like legitimate procedures. These measure would apply to all voters, so there is no discrimination.
Texas is among several states with GOP-controlled statehouses where Republicans have rushed to enact strict voting laws in response to former President Donald Trump’s false claims that the 2020 election was stolen from him.
Who decided the claims are false? The authors of this article?
Express sister
The courts, the States, and the electoral officials. Trump is a liar.
Commodore Perry
Really? I would like to see a direct quote from a court reading, "the 2020 election was not stolen from Trump."
Got one?
Attilathehungry
How are any of these measures racist? Does it say, "only white folks can vote on Sunday mornings, but black folks cannot'? The true racists are the ones who say that minority voters are unable to follow simple and easy steps to vote.
These seem like reasonable steps that many/most other advanced countries in the world follow.
Bob Fosse
Everybody, except a few loons still clinging onto the shreds of a sad little dream long dead.
GdTokyo
“It is a suppression of our constitutional rights,” Tate said.
don’t worry, Comatose, the brief is loaded up and ready to go. Unlike the Political world, the judiciary still requires evidence, logic and precedent; something your side lacks as evidenced by your 60 (and counting) losses at various levels of state and federal courts.
Commodore Perry
P. SmithToday 08:44 am JST
I'm not claiming--that language from a blue state court is not what I was asking for.
kurumazakaToday 08:44 am JST
Whose side?
Hiroshi13
"Voters rights" are only important in the context that Texas democrats look at voter restrictions and immigration restrictions in the same light since overturning these policies aligns with what the larger Democrat machine has stated repeatedly of their goal is to make Texas a blue state at any cost. Why is anyone here surprised that the majority of Texans are not ok with this?
Blacklabel
Only As exceptions due to COVID. That were not passed into law in the legislature as required.
none of these special rules were intended to become permanent. If so, pass a law and go to court to defend it.
Blacklabel
The Supreme Court has already found the GOP voting approach to be Constitutional in the Arizona case.
don’t like it, take it up with them.
Strangerland
Should it be taken up with them hundreds and hundreds of times like your false election fraud claims?
Blacklabel
Fraud:
https://www.npr.org/2021/07/09/1014686526/a-houston-man-is-arrested-for-alleged-illegal-voting-as-texas-gop-seeks-tighter-
Biden voter. in Texas. Liberals claim the “process” should not have allowed him to register or vote as an excuse for his illegal vote.
this law will prevent such fraud.
Strangerland
Heh, one fraudulent vote in 150 million, and you guys want to change the voting rules.
Typical.
Jsapc
https://www.inquirer.com/news/bruce-bartman-election-fraud-delaware-county-20201221.html
Delaware County man charged with registering dead relatives to vote in presidential election
Bruce Bartman, 70, told investigators he acted in an attempt to further President Trump’s campaign. He was charged with perjury and unlawful voting.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/12/21/pennsylvania-man-charged-with-voter-fraud-for-casting-ballot-for-trump-under-dead-mothers-name/?sh=5ebe10a759bf
Pennsylvania Man Charged With Voter Fraud For Casting Ballot For Trump Under Dead Mother’s Name
Something must be done to stop this rampant republican voter fraud.
Commodore Perry
P. SmithToday 09:30 am JST
Dems fighting Dems again!
StrangerlandToday 09:26 am JST
Heh, one fraudulent vote in 150 million, and you guys want to change the voting rules.
Typical.
Blacklabel
it simply was NOT the most secure election in history as an ineligible voter was allowed to not only register but vote. then in response liberals say its the fault of the system and the law.
Ok, so lets fix the system and the law to prevent this from happening again?
"NO! thats racist!"
So did this person ever vote before 2020 while ineligible?
If yes, supports fixing an obvious broken system.
if no, then every election but the special COVID rules one of 2020 was more secure.
One? here is another
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/10/us/texas-woman-ineligible-voting-appeal/index.html
Blacklabel
Yep, just more proof that is was NOT the most secure election in history.
Both sides had illegal voters. So obviously laws, voter roles, voter ID need to be strengthened to prevent such things.
lincolnman
Hmmmm....then why is the Repub sponsor of this bill admitting that he isn't aware of any fraud?
*Republican lawmakers were forced to admit they have not seen any evidence of widespread election fraud during a Saturday showdown in the Texas State House over restrictive “election integrity” measures being taken up in a special session called by Gov. Greg Abbott. In the Senate hearing on Saturday, GOP Sen. Bryan Hughes, committee chair and author of S.B. 1, admitted to Sen. Royce West, a Democrat, that Republicans had not done, nor were they aware of, any studies analyzing the disparate impacts of voting restrictions on people of color. **Hughes was unable to provide examples of any fraud associated with drive-through voting. He was also at a loss when asked about voter fraud linked to ballot dropboxes,*
https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-pols-forced-admit-big-210203116.html
Wanna explain that to us?
Blacklabel
but you agree with it and often gleefully quote this falsehood from "Trump" officials.
lincolnman
In Texas...
You can carry an AR15 or a .45 without any permit or training...
Yet to vote, you have to show a passport, birth certificate, driver's license, AND a copy of the Art of the Deal...
In the future, the Repubs want to restrict voting to just those wearing a tin-foil-lined red MAGA cap or a fur hat and horns...
Jsapc
Yes it was. That statement doesn't mean that there was absolutely no fraud whatsoever. Frauds or attempts at frauds always exist in all elections. But in numbers that are so infinitesimal that they have no incidence on the overall result of the election, and certainly do not require to make it harder for people to vote (not "to fraud", but only to vote). Using the very few cases of fraud to imply that there is some sort of systemic problem is about as inane as using the about 1% of vaccinated people infected by Covid to claim that vaccines don't work at all.
Blacklabel
arent you the "zero. zilch. nada" election fraud guy? or is that the other guy?
Ok so now we are getting somewhere. How much fraud is "ok" in our elections?
Commodore Perry
Republicans made clear they intended to advance a new election bill — which would prohibit 24-hour polling places, ban drop boxes and stop drive-thru voting
These measures would apply to Dems and Republicans. Nothing in the laws say anything about race, do they? These measures seem very reasonable.
P. SmithToday 09:54 am JST
What are you Hillary/Obama/Biden/AOC liberals afraid of?
Blacklabel
150 million votes. if even 0.1% fraud thats 150,000 votes, you know this right?
More than 490,000 Texans were on probation or parole in 2017.
so how about the other 489,999 people in Texas who are the same as the person caught illegally voting. Wonder if they voted too? why dont we create a process where they CANT vote to prevent this?
lincolnman
It doesn't matter how much the Repubs in Texas try to rig the election through voter suppression...
The CPAC straw poll just showed Trump winning by a large margin - that couldn't be better news for the Dems...
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/11/politics/cpac-trump-speech-straw-poll/index.html
Repubs will re-nominate a twice-impeached retiree in Florida whose company is under criminal investigation and CFO indicted for fraud - and who will soon be indicted himself. And as the House select committee will show, actively incited the MAGA-mob that stormed the Capitol in a failed insurrection.
Go for it Repubs - just like in 2020, show us again how much you enjoy losing...
Blacklabel
Never? I just gave you an illegal Biden voter in this thread.
There are nearly 500,000 people in the same situation as him. Why would I think no one else voted same as him?
Blacklabel
AFTER he voted and 7 months AFTER the election.
why dont we prevent him from voting in the first place?
Liberals are claiming its not his fault, the "process" allowed him to vote so he cant be held accountable for voting. so lets fix that process. or do we need to "catch" thousands more after the fact? what if we "catch" enough to change a state results? like lets say an audit in AZ or PA. then what?
Cant have it both ways.
Jsapc
Nope, I'm the "please provide proof of massive fraud in the last election" guy. Still waiting, by the way.
Commodore Perry
"strict voting laws"
This article calls the proposed laws strict; hmm, so, the current laws are not strict.
Time to tighten 'em up.
These laws affect everyone equally. No one has given evidence otherwise.
P. SmithToday 10:08 am JST
Voting fraud in an election--between Democrats!!!!
https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/09/massachusetts-thousands-of-mail-in-ballots-found-days-after-the-election/
Blacklabel
can let other people talk from now on.
Liberals are so confident in all this because you know if any fraud IS found- this will happen.
well, it wasnt significant, then wasnt widespread. then didnt change election results, then "who cares"?
When any widespread fraud comes out, the liberal media wont report it, social media will block and ban it, no judge will agree to hear it.
Do you really think any judge will put their family or home at risk for Donald Trump? nope.
So 2022 election is the way to correct all this.
Commodore Perry
P. SmithToday 10:20 am JST
Texas Republican sure have--which is why the article says Republicans made clear they intended to advance a new election bill.
They want to prevent things like the below:
Two Democrats Indicted on Voter Fraud Charges After Using Mail-in Ballots to Steal Election
https://newspunch.com/two-democrats-indicted-on-voter-fraud-charges-after-using-mail-in-ballots-to-steal-election/
Bob Fosse
Ok. And you’ll accept the result?
lincolnman
Repubs want to enact voter suppression laws because they HOPE fraud may have occurred...
Yet they failed and lost in court 62 times trying to prove that...
Numerous Trump lawyers, to include Giuliani, were forced to admit in court that "this is not a fraud case"....
https://time.com/5914377/donald-trump-no-evidence-fraud/
Repub red state Secretaries of State have consistently stated there is no fraud...
Trump toady Bill Barr said "no evidence of wide-spread fraud"...
The Texas Repub Congressman who is the sponsor of this Texas bill has admitted he has no examples of fraud...
So, it seems voter fraud has about as much basis in fact as Jewish-funded space lasers cause forest fires...
Which reminds me, why aren't the Repubs investigating this? These lasers have caused hundred of deaths and millions in property losses - how come we aren't seeing any Repub-sponsored laws outlawing space lasers?
Jsapc
Blacklabel, still waiting on proof of widespread and massive voter fraud. Please provide.
Blacklabel
who says fraud needs to be widespread or massive?
thats just the sound of the goalposts moving again. as I already predicted above.
Commodore Perry
Republicans made clear they intended to advance a new election bill
Anyone have evidence that this law discriminates or is racist?
Blacklabel
27 more cases. how many do you need?
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-wisconsin-election-2020-government-and-politics-daa3ac227c936d7fc038996af6e27cbe
Attilathehungry
For those who find the Texas proposal too restrictive, what do YOU think should be the rules around issues like voter id, polling station hours/locations, etc.?
For me, I would cancel all forms of non in-person voting with very few exceptions. For example, medical necessity, being out of the district, etc. And require ID to both register and to vote. Keeps it fair for everyone. Same rules for all.
Oh, and also make election day a national holiday. Those who have to work anyway can do early voting. Again, in person.
Blacklabel
35 more cases just in Georgia. Thousands of fraudulent votes/registrations involved.
Non citizens voting, voting under another name, felons voting. improper handling of memory card with 2,760 votes on it by an election official.
Bob Fosse
About 4 million.
Blacklabel
so we have officially proceeded to stage 4, who cares already, that was quick.
No need for 4 million as 40,000 votes in the 4 swing states was the only difference in the results.
so enjoy your "who cares" afternoon!
that sure changed from zero.zilch.nada and "just 1" morning really fast didnt it?
Bob Fosse
It’s a big barrel with not so many fish left. You should be swimming faster.
Attilathehungry
Also, people quickly forget that the 2016 federal election losing candidate was STILL calling the winning candidate "an illegitimate president" fully 3 YEARS after the election was over. So let's please stop with the "GOP are sore losers" angle.